Topic: Boxing: Nonito Donaire vs Jason Moloney - page 5. (Read 1229 times)

He's known for that.

He won't back out when the fight is already about to happen. And knowing that he's quite near to his farewell for his career, he'd do everything to win whoever will be assigned to fight him.

Without a doubt.

And that's where the influence of these promoters came into the picture, obviously, Bob Arum doesn't want to work with Donaire's manager and so even if they agree before hand in the November 2022 held every year by WBC in their convention, it's not an assurance that the fight is going to happen.

So now Donaire doesn't have a dance partner as Moloney decided not to fight and probably will go with other fights in other organization. Donaire can do the same as well, but it seems he has his sight at the WBC belt.

Yes, that's true. Before he ends up his professional career, there has to be a good landing for it so that he'll just take it lightly and won't be feeling for his retirement.
It's in the book that it seems that he really wants to have that beautiful ending like winning first before he gets out of professional boxing. Who knows after this, if he'll also do the same thing like exhibition matches just like what the other retirees did.

All of us would really be keeping on having these speculative approach on which as long they arent opening their mouths then there's no way that we could know on what would be their decisions.
Whether it is really that showing that Moloneys team arent really that interested on Donaire or something in behind with these decisions. In overall i could say that Donaire does still have it
and i dont have doubts that he cant fire up for any upcoming fights.He's not that old or might had past his prime but the power and speed is still there.

Even if they didn't want Donaire if a boxing organization where he is ranked, ordered it, he will have to take that chance, a good fighter who wants to be a champion will fight just anybody to prove that he is worthy of being a champion, and Donaire is not someone to back out of the fight, much more now that he needs a graceful exist and becoming a champion is what he really needs right now, Donaire deserves to have a crack because he still has it.

Or probably they are talking to other promoters on how to settle this one since Moloney or his camp doesn't want Donaire.

And so before Donaire opens his mouth, at least the fight should be 99% in the bag already, no more last second backing up just like what happen here. As for Inoue moving up, it's good for the Donaire, opening up a lot of opportunities for boxers to get a belt.

So let's wait for Donaire or on Moloney side, for sure all bodies are looking to have a fight as all the belts are open now. They immediately need a champion.

Fighting for a title again is a good opportunity for Donaire although I am not sure if he can really get his wish of getting a title shot in the super fly for his chance of becoming a 5-division world champion. That would be very historic for him as he can join Leonard, Hearns, and Mayweather. De La Hoya got 6 and Pacman got 8. Maybe if he wins this belt, he can offer any of the champions at super fly especially Estrada for a double-division title fight. This means they will fight at the super fly limit but at the same time, Donaire is also defending his WBC bantamweight belt.

Donaire might have a lot of opportunities since he is a clear future Hall of Famer. I just hope Rachel will prioritize Donaire's health and focus on that superfly dream this year and if they don't get it, her ward should retire for good. I don't want Donaire to follow the steps of ex-champ Jab Judah who was tempted to fight at 42 years old and was later hospitalized for brain bleeding.

Yes, and as mentioned, all are still possible until new deals and announcements are made. The WBC hasn't made another official mandatory yet. Moloney's camp didn't mention either as to which belt they are really trying to pursue. It's still complicated as Moloney, Astrolabio, Rodriguez, WBC, IBF, and WBO are all interconnected with their decisions.

Lucky as it should be but Inoue already finish his task at the 118 therefore it's not making sense to stay and do some title defense instead.

It will be a waste of time to just stay in the division where he is clearly the pure dominant. He should take advantage of his prime and deciding to move up weight is the best decision he did. If he plans to also capture all the titles at the 122, he can consider doing that. With his promoter Bob Arum, they can negotiate a big fight right away if they really intend to do it eagerly, especially for a world title fight.

As of this time, there's no clear opponent that Donaire might fight next. No words from Moloney too. Maybe told by his Boss to keep his mouth shut lol.

Usually though in this era, boxers tend to go up in weight immediately, even after just capturing 1 belt. In this case, Inoue has plans to get all the 4 belts. But the problem usually though is that it's hard to defend those 4 belts because each has it's own rule as to will be the mandatory fighter.

Just look at Josh Taylor at 140 lbs, after winning 4 belts, the body force him to fight their mandatory fighter. Now he has to vacant all the 3 belts and then just defend only 1 against Jack Catterall twice (rematch was postponed though as he is injured again). So it's better for Inoue to just move up in weight and now just to stay at 122 lbs for a long time.

They are lucky that Inoue decided to move up, otherwise, this division will be owned by Inoue as long as he stays active. Well, this is Donaire's chance to prove that he still has the capability of becoming a champion, I mean he is old if we based on his age, but who are we to judge him when he still think he can still go toe to toe against younger boxers.

That's the thought that most fans are having right now. With the last fight that he's got with Inoue, it's hard to extract that result for the retirement that might had planned.
But, as long as there's still some vacant title and he will no longer be fighting Inoue since it's proven that he's having a hard time against him, then he'll take chances no matter and whoever will be the next opponent he'll be required to fight.

Yes, there's only two options but there's still no guarantees about it even if the chances are higher that Donaire will hang his gloves if he will prevail in this fight and will be a world champion once again. Why? That would be a good exit for him rather than retiring after having a defeat and certainly, Inoue won't be a factor for that because he can still do a good job in the ring especially now that the biggest threat already climbed up.

There will be always be offer for Donaire, he is rank in all of the governing bodies in the bantamweight, so no doubt that he will be the most sought after boxers to carry their belt since Inoue left already.

As for the money, again, he has his wife as manager, so obviously Rachel knows a thing or two on how to handle their money. So I doubt that they are looking for it just to earn in boxing. Nonito will hang his gloves if he feels like and most likely if Rachel advises him to stop boxing. Just like what Jinky has been telling Manny all along to retire.

Like the idea that after his title match, many speculates that he'll retire after. The guess that we mostly have is about his retirement should come very soon but before doing that, he has to satisfy himself and get that title before it finally happens. I agree with you that there's no more big barricade for the title as Inoue has already left it vacated and that's why the opportunity for Donaire is there and he has to come and take it. And anyway, since this match won't be up soon anymore and has already been said to be cancelled since Moloney declined the offer, much better to lock the topic.

Seriously, where did you guys get these ideas? Do you guys really think Donaire is not retiring yet because money matters?

He feels he can still match with those remaining Bantamweight boxers now that Inoue moved up. Donaire already face the fiercest monster in the Bantamweight and that experience makes him think that he can still dominate other Bantamweight.

As long as he's pursuing only a title match, I will gladly support him. But if it's just about another match with no bearing, better to retire. Fortunately, he was still at the top of the rankings that's why even at 40 years old, he's still getting a chance for a title match.

When there are still fights which had been arranged up to be potentially be against up with then it does signifies that you are still that able to fight up and theres still that interest and recognition.Overall target of

each athlete is to bag up as long as they can as long as they arent retired or been stopped because they would be having no other main sources if ever it would be cut off unless if they had made out
some passive investment out of those boxing paycheck then its good.I dont think that Donaire would be going into that exhibition craze or trend and its true that he isnt
really that as popular than with MP so its understandable on what it would really be looks like.

I can't recall, but Donaire says that he has a lot of investments, money that he earn in his boxing career, and probably same with Manny too. So it's not that they will have to lose huge money when they retire, they can still live a good life after boxing.

It's that this boxers can't accept the fact that they are no longer fighting, some of them have been doing it when they are still a young boy, it's their career so it's hard to just quit and not do it anymore. That's why we see boxers coming out of retirement or now, doing some exhibitions fights.

As ranked Rank 2 in the Bantamweight even after losing to Inoue, it just makes sense that Donaire will get some big opportunity once Inoue moved up weight. I agree with you that as long as there's a big opportunity, do not hang the gloves yet.

Unfortunately, what a crap happened that this fight against Moloney won't be materialized. Moloney is really my preferred opponent for Donaire to see if the Filipino Flash can still match with top bantamweight boxers aside from Naoya Inoue.


Let's give at least a few days to give way for posts related to Donaire-Moloney not being spammed or mentioned on other threads. The recent news referring to Moloney backing out with the mandatory fight was still hot and fresh though and still makes sense to discuss.

He can still fight and as a fighter it will be an honor if there's still offers that will allow you to earn a decent amount of profits, I don't see him in the position that he will retire, still capable of throwing solid punches and manage to win.

Though speed wise, he's no longer the same flash as he has been a decade ago, but with his good
skills in observing his opponents, he can still throw that hook and still follow up with a solid right to
put his opponent down.

Yeah, he is taking the opportunity to earn because retirement would be another story. Well, he might follow Pacman getting into exhibition fights, but we know he is not as popular as Pacman, so it's say to say that he'll not earn like how much Pacman is making.