[ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Rematch - JOSHUA vs USYK II (updated thread) - page 29.

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Quote from: Welsh on May 26, 2021, 09:35:33 AM

Quote from: icopress on May 26, 2021, 08:25:58 AM

Seriously ... 3 votes for Usik? I'm just wondering what was the motivation behind the people when they voted for Joshua ...

Nationality will always play a part, and be part of the bias. However, not a lot of people will want Joshua to lose simply because they want to see Fury VS Joshua. So, I suspect this is what is skewing the results. I for example, really want Joshua win simply because I want to see all the belts on the line for the Fury fight. However, I actually kind of think that Usyk will beat him. Usyk definitely isn't a pushover, but we all have to admit that we watch the sport because of the hype, and Joshua vs Usyk doesn't have a lot. Meanwhile, Fury, and Joshua we especially British fighters have been wanting for a long while.

When just checking out the highlights of best KO's in his career of Usyk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLMqJmYxc_4 then i can tell that this guy would really give a good damn fight.

I agree on what been stated above that nationality and hype is one of the factors that affecting this poll where people are really hurrying up on concluding this fight in favor or AJ
just for them to let see on whats next which is basically focusing on AJ and Fury fight which is actually on point.

What are the chance or percent for some upset on this one?

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 22, 2021, 04:02:39 PM

The WBO has given Joshua and Usyk until 31st May 2021 to agree terms for the fight. The only way a Fury vs Joshua fight can happen now is if Joshua defeats Usyk and if Fury defeats Wilder. How many of us saw this scenario coming? Shocked

At the end the worst scenario came to happen, Wilder is surely going to lose the fight against Fury as he is not going to have enough time to improve his technique and fighting style and even if the poll right now puts Joshua as the favorite I voted for Usyk to win this fight and if that came to happen then Joshua will most likely try to fight Usyk again and then any chances of a reunification fight will be lost, personally I hope this happens as I am tired of promoters trying to earn more money out of fights and denying the fans the fights we want to see.

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I have voted for USYK here but I really like Joshua as a fighter but seeing Oleksandr Usyk form I think that Anthony Joshua will be having a problem hurting Usyk, many are in favor of Anthony Joshua and saying that Usyk seems small for Joshua to fight but I think that Oleksandr Usyk has an advantage with his defense, I can see that Joshua will be having a hard time hitting his hard punches, maybe he may get in a slight punch on Usyk but the defense of Usyk is superb that is why I think that Oleksandr Usyk can win this by decision,

I know it is a gamble to be betting for Oleksandr Usyk but I will take my chances on Usyk but maybe Anthony Joshua could be the favorite and the Odds is on his edge so betting for Oleksandr Usyk will surely rack a lot.

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Quote from: Welsh on May 26, 2021, 09:35:33 AM

Usyk definitely isn't a pushover, but we all have to admit that we watch the sport because of the hype, and Joshua vs Usyk doesn't have a lot. Meanwhile, Fury, and Joshua we especially British fighters have been wanting for a long while.

Well, in a sense, I agree with you ... Looking back at the history of boxing over the past 10 years, it is safe to say that boxers are now fighting for money and not for the title, (more hype, as a result, more money). And honestly, I do not see any obstacles that the managers of the boxers you mentioned agree on a charity exhibition fight (if these boxers really want to find out who is who).

IMHO: But if you want to see a fight for the title, then Usyk is just that boxer who will show spectacular hardcore boxing.

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Quote from: icopress on May 26, 2021, 08:25:58 AM

Seriously ... 3 votes for Usik? I'm just wondering what was the motivation behind the people when they voted for Joshua ...

Nationality will always play a part, and be part of the bias. However, not a lot of people will want Joshua to lose simply because they want to see Fury VS Joshua. So, I suspect this is what is skewing the results. I for example, really want Joshua win simply because I want to see all the belts on the line for the Fury fight. However, I actually kind of think that Usyk will beat him. Usyk definitely isn't a pushover, but we all have to admit that we watch the sport because of the hype, and Joshua vs Usyk doesn't have a lot. Meanwhile, Fury, and Joshua we especially British fighters have been wanting for a long while.

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Joshua is the overwhelming favorite the number of voters has a huge gap, but Usyk is not a so so fighter he is a fighter who can deliver an upset I have seen how strong and powerful he is, this is going to be a very exciting match, I am favoring and wishing and hoping Joshua wins here so he can fight the winner of the Fury - Wilder match and whoever wins here will be the greatest boxer of this era.

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Actually I am more waiting for the fight between Joshua vs Tyson Fury than anthony Joshua to have to face the oleksnder usyk in this heavyweight boxing fight, because Anthony Joshua battle as the owner of the WBA, WBO and IBF championship belt will certainly be very exciting when dealing with Tyson Fury who has the WBC and The titles the current ring, but with the obligation Tyson Fury to fight Deontay Wilder, this fight must be disbanded, I think the fight between Anthony Joshua and Oleksandr Usyk will certainly be easily won by Anthony Joshua because indeed the battle will be more likely to be dominated by Anthony Joshua even though now Oleksandr Usyk is the number one contender on the WBO and WBA.

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Seriously ... 3 votes for Usik? I'm just wondering what was the motivation behind the people when they voted for Joshua ... (besides sympathies based on nationality). Being left-handed is a big advantage in the boxing world, as lefties set the pace ... not to mention the mirror image. Btw, I looked at the historical summary and I see that the most epic fights with the greatest boxers were against left-handers, (I can easily make a bet with any hardcore Anthony fan).

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Even though Usyk is undefeated and has fought a lot of good fighters many members here still favors Joshua to win the fight both fighters have a good amount of motivation, for Joshua he needs to win it so he can have a day against Fury and Usyk because three titles are on the line and he can possibly fight who wins between Fury and Wilder for a unification bout, so many at stakes for both fighters here.

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Usyk is undefeated and is a serious contender to any champion, Joshua is in big against one of the top contenders in the division this is one of his tests, Usyk could become the man who can derail the all British heavyweight mega-fight, I have no doubt that Fury can beat Wilder but Joshua will have a big test in Usyk, I hope Joshua can beat Usyk so we can have the much-awaited Joshu- Fury fight, it's the fight the boxing community wants to see,

When it comes to experience then no doubt that Joshua does have it but having 18 wins without loss plus having 13 knockdowns out of those 18 fights is something that he should prepared on.
Trying to check out on oddschecker then theres no surprise for AJ to be the favorite.
Anthony Joshua -275
Oleksandr Usyk +200

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Quote from: aioc on May 24, 2021, 11:02:25 PM

I'm quoting you it's possible to remember Joshua suffered a huge upsets at the hands of Ruiz and Joshua is a heavy favorite that upsets change so many things it stopped the Joshua train and possible unification with Wilder, Usyk can possibly do that he has a good record and fought a lot of good fighters, of course, Joshua can't afford another upset if he wants to establish himself as one the greatest heavyweight fighter of this generation

Yeah, it wasn't a complete smashing by Ruiz though. Joshua had already sat him down, and then got caught himself in a sort of brawl type scenario. Joshua has demonstrated this before against other boxers in the division. Whyte for example. Hes prone to losing his head per say, by participating in these brawl scenarios, which are usually 50/50.

Also, I wasn't convinced by Joshua on his second outing against Ruiz, as Ruiz clearly wasn't bringing the fire he brought in the first fight, and Joshua looked to win by technical boxing, rather than a punch up like he usually does.

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Joshua doesn't have any choice there unless he would just inject covid virus to himself to avoid Usyk. looks like a fair record to me, the only way to beat a heavyweight fighter is to match also with a heavyweight. but i think this should be an opportunity for Joshua to show he can beat a top contender and deal with Fury after. Usyk will realize how quick the hands of Joshua are when he'd lay down the canvas.

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Quote from: Welsh on May 24, 2021, 06:29:37 PM

Honestly, as fans of boxing, and this is particularly true for British boxing fans, we've wanted to see Fury VS Joshua for a long time, and the sweetest part of this fight this time around, was it was for all belts. I can almost guarantee the boxing gods will now smite us, and either Fury or Joshua will lose their belt, and we won't get the fight.

Plus, I actually think that Usyk is a great match up for Joshua, and I can see him really testing him. So, if I was to bet my money on one of Joshua or Fury losing, it would more than likely be Joshua since Usyk is a proper good boxer where as Wilder only has that punchers chance.

Usyk by shock TKO.

I'm quoting you it's possible to remember Joshua suffered a huge upsets at the hands of Ruiz and Joshua is a heavy favorite that upsets change so many things it stopped the Joshua train and possible unification with Wilder, Usyk can possibly do that he has a good record and fought a lot of good fighters, of course, Joshua can't afford another upset if he wants to establish himself as one the greatest heavyweight fighter of this generation

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Quote from: JollyGood on May 24, 2021, 01:57:11 PM

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I am seeing this coming. Joshua vs Usyk is definitely a match made for Joshua. I am not totally discounting Usyk but it seems he doesn't have the power to stop Joshua. He couldn't even manage to KO Chisora.

I understand your point, Joshua should easily win the fight because Usyk does not seem a strong opponent but upsets can happen. Joshua should win but it will not be straight forward.

I don't find this hard to agree. If we are to base our betting on boxing skills, we should be rooting for Joshua. Upsets do happen but seldom do we place our money on the line only for that very small window of opportunity.

But wait a minute, it seems Joshua's fellow countryman here does not agree.

Quote from: Welsh on May 24, 2021, 06:29:37 PM

Usyk by shock TKO.

This prediction is more shocking. Grin

I have yet to check the odds on this one but I bet it would not be less than 9.0 for Usyk by TKO.

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Honestly, as fans of boxing, and this is particularly true for British boxing fans, we've wanted to see Fury VS Joshua for a long time, and the sweetest part of this fight this time around, was it was for all belts. I can almost guarantee the boxing gods will now smite us, and either Fury or Joshua will lose their belt, and we won't get the fight.

Plus, I actually think that Usyk is a great match up for Joshua, and I can see him really testing him. So, if I was to bet my money on one of Joshua or Fury losing, it would more than likely be Joshua since Usyk is a proper good boxer where as Wilder only has that punchers chance.

Usyk by shock TKO.

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Quote from: crwth on May 23, 2021, 08:29:24 PM

I don't think Fury-Joshua will happen anytime soon.

Maybe it will never happen now because if Usyk manages to win then there will be a re-match clause allowing Joshua another chance. Keeping the potential drama of Joshua vs Usyk aside, there is also drama in the Fury vs Wilder III fight. I think Fury will win comfortably but what happens if both Joshua and Fury lose? I will not be too interested to want to see their fight...

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 23, 2021, 09:10:53 PM

Usyk didn't have a convincing performance in his last fight. He lacks power and is undersized. He doesn't have a lot of professional experience for his age. Everything is in Joshua's favor so I expect him to win without too much problems.

The odds are heavily against Usyk winning but it is boxing at the end of the day and anything can happen Grin

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on May 23, 2021, 09:15:31 PM

I am seeing this coming. Joshua vs Usyk is definitely a match made for Joshua. I am not totally discounting Usyk but it seems he doesn't have the power to stop Joshua. He couldn't even manage to KO Chisora.

I understand your point, Joshua should easily win the fight because Usyk does not seem a strong opponent but upsets can happen. Joshua should win but it will not be straight forward.

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I was expecting Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury and now we are forced to see another fight against Oleksandr Usyk who is another high profile fight but they will not get the same hype as Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury and since i want to see that fight happen i hope Anthony Joshua could somehow win the fight against Oleksandr Usyk even though it is a huge task.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 23, 2021, 09:10:53 PM

Usyk didn't have a convincing performance in his last fight. He lacks power and is undersized. He doesn't have a lot of professional experience for his age. Everything is in Joshua's favor so I expect him to win without too much problems.

It seems that we know two different Usyk.

Last fight (first fight in heavyweight. he was cruiser all the time) Usyk dominated all the rounds. Dont know much about the power, because any good punch can knock out anyone, but he was twice faster than his opponent.

Dont have enough experience? What about 335−15 in amateur career and 18-0 in pros ? He has more fight than AJ in general, but only 5 fights less in pros. They are both Olympic champs. So I would not say that he or they are inexperienced.

If AJ gains a lot for that fight and be slow, Usyk would destroy him with his 6-8 punch series. If not, then it will be a tough fight for both and I predict it to end with decision. But I would point that Usyk yet don't have enough power for heavyweight or superheavy division.

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I'm a fan of the southpaw in this fight. It's a shame that the boxing commission stepped in a forced the rematch for Fury, but if Joshua beats the southpaw he will get the big fight.

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I didn't see this coming, I thought that Fury vs Joshua is sealed already before they announced it to the public. And then the arbitration ruling favouring Wilder for a trilogy with Fury.

As for this fight I voted for Joshua, I think the 3 is just above the rest of the heavyweight right now. So I would say that Joshua should win this fight. But he shouldn't underestimate Usyk, he doesn't want another derail of the biggest fight him and Fury for the undisputed.

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