Topic: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) (Read 1819 times)

Showtime is getting out of the sport next year. There were rumors that PBC is heading to DAZN joining Matchroom and GBP. But it didn't happen and PBC signed a partnership deal with Amazon Prime. So together with DAZN and ESPN, there are still 3 giant networks in this sport and it makes negotiations still more difficult especially when stars from different networks are planning to face each other.

Tank stopped responding to Haney's challenge. Tank also said no when Haney's promoter Eddie Hearn tried to reach out. But at least we still have 3 champions at 140 willing to fight each other.

Ryan Garcia might not have any belts for now, but he could be one of the cash cow as well, like what numbers him and Davis put this year and it could have been the biggest fight as per money wise in 2023. So I do agree that if Haney and Ryan fight, it could be one of the biggest for next year. But let's just wait for the official announcement as there are lots of thing that can happen. Haney vs Tank has their own public war of words but it seems that it died down already. And then we have Lopez fight in February against Ortiz. One thing is for sure is that this division is getting the publicity now when the best 135 lbs move up to this division, except Tank. Really hard to comment on boxing politics, it really sucks and it deprived us boxing fans from watching prime boxers against each other.

Bottom line, boxing politics sucks. They prevent us from watching boxers fight on their primes vs another championship caliber boxer.

As what i have read and understood, Haney and Ryan Garcia is in the negotiation table per both boxers, hope they were saying the truth. If materializes, Haney vs Garcia could be a blockbuster as needless to say that Garcia has a lot of followers, though winning against Haney is a slim possibility but the money will pour on this fight, that's for sure.

^^ There could be barriers, but I think if this manager and boxers wanted to get a huge paycheck, they will have to work with each other. Sho is no longer there, so DAZN should make everyone comfortable now as they could be the only network that can broadcast good fight.

And this is why the criticism about boxing in the last 10 years or so that it is dead as the promoters and network affiliations are the ones killing it.

But if they wanted to make money, for sure there are some middle ground that they can do so that we can witnesses good fight that fans wanted, not like exhibition or cherry pick fights.

It's just really hard to imagine how Ryan Garcia or the version of his last fight can beat Haney. It will be a complete massacre. Ryan's previous awkward Phelly Shell only worked against a super slow blown-up lightweight but that will be an easy target for a very quick and strong opponent like Haney.


I am still doubtful about Ryan's willingness to fight Haney. So I will only believe this when it's official. I believe this is the last fight for Ryan under GBP and obviously, he is not going to re-sign. So Oscar and BHop would love to promote a big fight and then seeing Ryan getting destroyed is a win for them as well. If this fight materialized I would be very curious about Ryan's team and who is at the top making advice. It could be Derrick James, his new coach. He or his team is probably paid by either Matchroom or GBP or even by Bill Haney for this suicide fight.

Haney is with Matchroom and most of the big names of the division are at Top Rank and a few at PBC so it will be hard on what's next for him. Prograis was the only other big name at Matchroom. GBP is with DAZN as well so a Ryan Garcia fight is much easier to make. The IBF champ Matias has the least fanbase of all champions so PBC could let him fight on any network. But lineal and WBO champ Teofimo and WBA champion Rolly will be hard to deal with since they are main-event fighters in their networks.

It will be good if Garcia vs Haney happen. But let's see if Dela Hoya will put Garcia right away with Haney. They just had to cherry pick Duarte to make Garcia great in his first fight in this division. I do agree though, money fight will be a fight with Garcia as we all know that already.

Haney has a lot of options, cement his legacy or go for big paycheck.

Teo Lopez is also waiting, that's also a great fight. Or even a Romero, to get his belt and unify.

Haney will just destroy the future of Ryan Garcia in boxing. If Ryan will agree on this fight, that means he believe in himself that he can beat Haney which I believe he only has 20% chance of winning, or even less. Of course, we never know the outcome, but I believe it's not right to be aggressive as his value is at stake here, if he losses, his value will drop and the kind of emotional effect that will leave on him, and knowing that he had gone through mental struggle in the past, that might result to ending his career early in boxing.

As per Haney, negotiation is ongoing for a fight with Ryan Garcia which coincides with what Ryan brags on his social media account. Haney is not keen on a unification fight, he wants a money fight which I think Ryan Garcia will give as the latter is famous online. Though on paper, Garcia will be the huge underdog here but with his newfound defensive strategy I think he can handle and may defeat Haney if those power bombs would land on Haney's body and chin.

It's probably Uncle Bob wanted Lopez to get busy and it was a good exposure for Teo Lopez, as they will headline the super bowl week so it's huge. Maybe after this he will fight Matias. Although there are also rumors that the Matias camp ask for $4 million to fight Haney, but Matias and his manager quickly denies this claim.

And with that, as champion, Matias has been in the radar now, and for sure next year there will be some sort of unification fight at 140 lbs as there are a lot of big names in this division, including Keyshawn Davis putting his name in the mix.

I also heard the rumors but hoped it wouldn't go through. So it's official now that Teofimo fights Jamaine? Still a good fight but of course we want to see unifications. So it seems like the Matias negotiations aren't fruitful or maybe the unification plan is after this fight. Anyway, Teofimo's last fight was like 6 months ago and Matias is pretty sure he needs a month at least to rest and then another 2 to 3 months of training camp. So it's good that Teofimo is getting a fight before gunning for unifications in his next outing.

And it's good we can see Keyshawn Davis stepping up even if he only managed a draw in his last fight.

Yes, I think everyone will agree on that, and even Loma himself if I'm not mistaken as he said that he is too small for 140 lbs and it will be hard for him to campaign on that weight class.


But it's not going to happen for now as Teo is going to fight Jamaine Ortiz, as he is going up in weight at 140 lbs.


https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-jamaine-ortiz-keyshawn-davis-jose-pedraza-headline-super-bowl-week-show-las-vegas-on-feb-8--180118

Either way, if Lopez wins here, for sure he will target all the champions in this division next.

Most likely Top Rank just wanted him to get busy first and have some confident boosting win before going with the likes of Haney, Matias and Romero in the future.

That is already big offer from DAZN, and I think with Showtime out of the picture as far as network promotions goes, DAN is really taking over and that's why that big offer because they might think that they can easily make that money and more with no competition on network stage. So everything is up for Davis to accept it, although I will agree with your argument that he might be too small for 140 lbs, but he fought once in this division and bet Barrios. But yeah, he might want to insert all this rehydration clause and others to get all the advantage on Haney. But Haney is too intelligent to give in to all the demands of Davis and his camp. So this might be a hard negotiations, but let's see, money can change all of that barriers.

I've read that DAZN has offered the camp of Davis 20 million USD to fight Daven Haney, will they take the bait?

I think they will reject that offer if the fight happens at 140 and without any rehydration clause as Haney is just to big Davis as the former could go up to 160 lbs after the weigh-in.

Yeah, hard to think what's next for Haney right now but he needs to fight big names as people will go snoring if he fights a nobody.

As long as the fight is at 140 lbs, I think any fight will make sense for Haney. For me he should forget about Davis for now, it's just so many back and forth between him and Davis and I don't see him going up to 140 lbs for now.

He will be staying in 135 lbs because belts are vacant and maybe going at least 1, wherein he will be confident who will be his opponent.

Like the idea of Loma vs Kambosos, they supposedly to fight 2022 if I'm not mistaken, and we all know what's the reason for the fight being cancelled. But at least if this fight push through it will still be at least for a championship belt.

Loma is also fighting Kambosos for the vacant IBF belt at 135 in Australia and I also doubt he will move up to 140. Plus Haney felt offended when Arum was caught saying Loma clearly beat him. The same reason why Haney left Top Rank even if the offer was bigger and better compared to Matchroom. So in the meantime, until the wound heals, I highly doubt Haney will fight a Top Rank fighter next year which means Teo and Loma are out of the picture.

It's hard to think what's next for Haney. WBA and IBF champs are with PBC although Matias isn't that popular so he might be allowed to have a single fight on the other rival networks. But Matias might face Teofimo Lopez next.

Loma vs Haney at 140 will not happen as Loma will not go up in weight, 136 might be his maximum division. With regards to Haney, he is too big now that going to 136 is impractical, and besides the money fights are in the higher weight division.

Haney vs Teo Lopez will be entertaining to watch I think as both boxers have contrasting styles, counter-puncher vs aggressor, hope they will make this fight happen while they are still in the peak of their careers.

Everyone is interested because Haney had the belt now in 140 lbs, this 4 though should have fought in the 135 lbs, Lopez, Haney, Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis. But we were deprived of it as the 3 of them have move up and we also saw Ryan vs Tank Davis. Although Davis won, but we think that he weight drain Ryan Garcia that's why he look very weak in that fight.


Loma vs Haney? They fought already and Haney won, although it's controversial as others saw that Loma might have won the second stretch of the fight. Not sure though that Haney will fight Loma again, he is no longer interested at a rematch. Loma will be at a disadvantage at 140 lbs as he will be too small. It will be Haney vs the rest of the champion and then Davis when he decided to go up at 140 lbs.

Now, there are lots of great boxers that are interested in fight with Haney. Yeah, he's moving up and I think he's enjoying it, first attempt and he already became a champion, I think it's best for him to unify all the belts in the division he is now. Well, if Davis is willing to fight Haney, that's an excemption, I mean that should be prioritize as that's big money, bigger than a championship fight is not going to be.

Davis, Ryan Garcia (easy), and Loma, these are the three boxers I like to see Haney fight. I know it will be a rematch for Loma but that was controversial, I guess if Haney wants to cement his legacy, he should give Loma another chance and beat him convincingly so fans will stop doubting him.

Perhaps he has seen loophole on Matias, Subriel doesn't move that much and most likely his father saw this weakness on Matias so they think it's going to be an easy target for them. But for Haney, I don't think that they have Matias on their mind. Most likely, they will go for either Ryan Garcia (if GBP is willing and not protect Garcia), or Lopez himself.

Or if the back and forth between the Haney's and the camp of Tank Davis will materialized, then we will see Davis going up to 140 lbs but with no clauses on the contract as per the Haney's.

^^ We will give props to Teo Lopez if he is willing to fight Matias and for the unification. I will say Matias could be one to be avoided in this division, yes he is a champion but his power is scary and he is the odd man out. So for Lopez is targeting him then he has the balls. And most likely though Lopez is going to be the A-side in this fight and maybe what 70-30 split. I think it will be good for Matias to get that kind of money and it could be his biggest paycheck. As for Garcia vs Paro, still good fight as well, maybe GBP is still trying to build up Ryan in his division very slowly, so careful match-making from them. They don't want Ryan to go against Haney or even Lopez yet, they need to built his hype again before chasing for the belt fight.