Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) - page 3.

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Quote from: Dave1 on December 10, 2023, 06:59:18 PM

I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

Ryan also wants Haney and there is news that's coming out that Oscar promotion will make it happen, that's a big turn around, Haney has been wanting to face Ryan in the past, but now they are the ones coming for him, analyzing both fighters recent fight I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and skill, there's a big gap between the two, Haney is just too good and he's getting better he was sharpened by those great fights with Loma and Kambosos, while Ryan do not have big names in his resume that he has beaten, except Edwards, of course, Tank demolish him.

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I want Haney to go after Ryan Garcia, and if that fight happens, I think Haney will school Garcia just like what he did against Regis here. And with that added weight, I think Haney absorb the power or Regis and then himself having the power to knock him out.

Although we really don't like the style of Haney, he seems to be very effective.

And he is also maturing and turning to be a great fighter now and he is about to hit his prime years.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 10, 2023, 04:13:43 PM

And so then we discuss that it's either Progais KO Haney early, or Devin winning by a UD in the judges scorecard. So the latter happen, what's next for Haney? He is already a champion once again, so he better fight other belt holders here, and I think he can unify again.

The bout ended in a UD so I think many competitive boxers will try to take him down. I mean, if it's a TKO/KO then they might avoid him but it's a UD which means there's a chance. Although he dominated every round against Regis Prograis there's still that lingering doubt that he will be the most dominant fighter in this division. We've seen dominant, champions and boxers that are being avoided by many even though the belt is on the line.
I bet there will be a champion from another organization that will try to unify those belts.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 10, 2023, 05:05:43 PM

Ryan Garcia is calling him up, so this will be great if these fight will happen 2024. Even Oscar Dela Hoya already twitted that he wanted Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney next and obviously there will be a lot of money here if this fight materialized.

But we will have to give Devin Haney his props in this fight, they carefully chooses Regis here because they know that they can beat him. No offense to Regis, but it seems that he is already on the sunset of his career as per his performance before this fight that's why Bill Haney targeted him.

Let's see, lots of fight for money and legacy for Devin Haney in this division.

Money and title. Hmmm. This could be good but do imagine the risk Haney will take if this happens. Ryan Garcia had been trying to climb the rankings for a chance of a title match. I don't think he is ready and he is still all just hype. But like you said there will be a lot of money on the line because of Ryan's fame in the social media industry.

Yeah, no disrespect to Regis but Haney's camp did their homework. Going up the ladder is not easy because it could slow down a fighter and yet Haney still dominated the bout. I was expecting Prograis to give him one punch that would tell the difference in their weight class but that didn't happen, it's like he is the one who was played.

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Ryan Garcia is calling him up, so this will be great if these fight will happen 2024. Even Oscar Dela Hoya already twitted that he wanted Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney next and obviously there will be a lot of money here if this fight materialized.

But we will have to give Devin Haney his props in this fight, they carefully chooses Regis here because they know that they can beat him. No offense to Regis, but it seems that he is already on the sunset of his career as per his performance before this fight that's why Bill Haney targeted him.

Let's see, lots of fight for money and legacy for Devin Haney in this division.

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I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title.

Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.

Prograis able to engage through trash talk in the face-off and weigh in but not in the actual fight. I thought Haney would play safer but it was Prograis who is obviously not on the level of his challenger, I mean he is below. That was probably the easiest championship fight for Haney, his face was fresh after the fight but Prograis was all busted, lucky for him he didn't get knockout, otherwise that would be a big "shame on him" moment in his boxing career.

Well he did recognized Haney after that fight and he said that he didn't expect that Haney is this good. Maybe it's not underestimating by his trainer and Prograis himself, but the game plan of Haney and he even knock him down. So no excuses for Prograis, he did train very hard in this fight including those trash talking that made this fight very interesting for boxing fans.

But we all know that odd makers put him at a huge 3:1 or even 4:1 underdog at the start.

And so then we discuss that it's either Progais KO Haney early, or Devin winning by a UD in the judges scorecard. So the latter happen, what's next for Haney? He is already a champion once again, so he better fight other belt holders here, and I think he can unify again.

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Quote from: stadus on December 10, 2023, 01:36:52 AM

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title.

Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.

Prograis able to engage through trash talk in the face-off and weigh in but not in the actual fight. I thought Haney would play safer but it was Prograis who is obviously not on the level of his challenger, I mean he is below. That was probably the easiest championship fight for Haney, his face was fresh after the fight but Prograis was all busted, lucky for him he didn't get knockout, otherwise that would be a big "shame on him" moment in his boxing career.

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Quote from: stadus on December 10, 2023, 01:36:52 AM

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

I remember Haney wanting to fight Ryan but the Golden Boy Promotion didn't want it because they were still in the process of building up King Ryan after a few years so many things have changed Haney is now a double division champion while Ryan hasn't won a single major title.

Haney just got better while Ryan is deteriorating this is because Haney is not afraid to take challenges while Ryan is cherry-picking his opponents if they will be the next to square off in the ring I don't think Ryan can keep up with Haney's speed and accuracy, Prograis is an easy fight but if it's going to be a much easier fight when he faces Ryan.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 10, 2023, 12:06:06 AM

@bbc.reporter, you are right, should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

Tank Davis would be the best option for Haney, Tank should move up in 140 lbs and then fight Haney for the belt. Davis has been protected by his handlers for many years and it's about time for him to really step up the plate and fight a champion.

Shakur is a full fledge 135 lbs, and I don't see that Haney going back down to that weight class anymore. He has vacated all his belt and I think he will campaign at 140 lbs moving forward. So money fight at 140 lbs for Haney is Tank Davis.

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Quote from: stadus on December 10, 2023, 01:36:52 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 10, 2023, 12:06:06 AM

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

Same here, we need a fighter that could match Haney's power and speed. I think Ryan has learned a new defensive strategy as what he showcased during his last fight, so I guess he's ready to fight Haney. However, if the fight would happen, I'm sure Ryan will be the underdog as Haney just showed what an exeptional boxer is, even Shakur would unlikely to beat Haney.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 10, 2023, 12:06:06 AM

should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.

Not only on the footwork, he was hesitant because he respected the power of Haney when he got knocked out in the 3rd round. What we saw was a masterclass of Haney, this isn't the only division he'll stop, he'll go further for sure as he knows how to carry his power and speed when moving up.

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So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

I like to see Ryan Garcia, safer for Haney and at the same time I think it'll be more of an entertaining fight.

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This is way too easy for Haney, I thought it was going to be a 50/50 fight, but Haney made it like another day in the office, it is a routine fight, nothing special he just does the things that people used to see him doing, but unfortunately Prograis did not do his assignment it is expected that he will do an adjustment and but he just stands there waiting to counter but Haney was just too fast and too accurate, both fighters have been through a lot of great fights but Haney made Prograis an amateur.

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So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

I'm seeing the result like what we've seen today if he meets any one of these guys because they are not spectacular to counter Haney's move, I like to see Haney against Tank, that's the fight that will look even.

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Haney was brilliant at exploiting Prograis' weakness. We saw in Prograis' last fight that against technical fighters he looks terrible because he is one dimensional. He has power but he is slow, lacks defense and doesn't move well. Stylistically, it was the worst possible opponent he could have faced. Without the usual aggressiveness from Prograis, Haney was able to cruise to a comfortable shutout decision.

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So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

Shakur hurt his value with his last fight. If he wants that fight he is going to have to chase Haney to 140 or 147 and will have to settle with taking a smaller percentage than what he feels he is worth. Ryan is even more limited than Prograis. Not only will he get dominated but he might get knocked out.

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Prograis is just all hype Haney controls everything in this fight he controls the pace and the distance, Prograis shows nothing it's all Haney all night its a complete dominance and shut off Prograis did not even win a single round, this is one of the easiest fights for Haney, I'm surprised how the fight turned out to be.
Prograis is not here in this fight or Haney is just too good against Prograis.

Official scores are 120-107, 120-107, and 120-107.

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@bbc.reporter, you are right, should have been 1.01 ML odds for Haney. Prograis was so overwhelmed by the good footwork of Haney in the early rounds that he could not figure out how to cut the gap between them as Haney also got the power in his new division. But one thing ordinary fans couldn't appreciate is that he lacks the killer's instinct. He could easily knockout Prograis as the latter's legs were no longer there.

So what's next for Haney now, Shakur or Ryan Garcia?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 09, 2023, 11:38:33 PM

@Japinat. Agreed! He is much stronger in this higher weight division, however, he did not lose his speed and stamina. There are boxers who lose some stamina because of the heavier weight. But as I mentioned already, Devin Haney is young and growing. This is certainly not his real weight division. He will go heavier and he might be champion in 2 more divisions.

This is probably the best fight for Haney that I've witnessed, he was dominating this fight and I doubt Prograis even won a single round. The fight is over, I didn't wait for the decision as it's very obvious Haney will be declared as the winner via unanimous decision. Welcome to our new Champ, and congratulations to the bettors who won betting on Haney to in outright or via decision.

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@Japinat. Agreed! He is much stronger in this higher weight division, however, he did not lose his speed and stamina. There are boxers who lose some stamina because of the heavier weight. But as I mentioned already, Devin Haney is young and growing. This is certainly not his real weight division. He will go heavier and he might be champion in 2 more divisions.

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Prograis got knock down in the 3rd round, damn, Haney is fun to watch now, he is dictating the fight. Prograis trying to throw some jab but he ain't hitting, if he cannot hurt Haney, I'd say this would end like an easy win for Haney if it goes to distance, but there's a possibility that Prograis will be knock out as he looks tired even this early.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 09, 2023, 09:35:57 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 09, 2023, 09:26:25 PM

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Haney is the challenger here mate and his debut for the 140 lbs division, that may be the reason of that odds but i do hope that Haney would not wear his running shoes so we could see the full potential of Prograis. Clinching and running, though part of the game, this would not make Haney a sellable fighter in the higher division.

I was not very convinced on Haney before the first fight against Kambosos, however, after witnessing a victory in Australia and defending his champioship vs. Lomachenko, I reckon the 5 pound difference might not matter very much for this fight. Also, Haney is very young and growing, I am quite certain that 140 pounds will not be his last weight division.

Haney is also taller than Prograis and has a longer reach. It can be argued that this super lightweight division might presently be the right one for him.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 09, 2023, 09:37:58 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 09, 2023, 09:26:25 PM

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Regis knows what the odds are, but according to him, it doesn't matter,

It doesn't matter for him because he already know he'll be the favorite. I hope he would not underestimate Prograis here, the kind of trashtalking they has to make this fight entertaining, I mean, Prograis should be more aggressive, and try to give pressue to Haney who is the defensive fighter.

can't wait.

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“It don’t insult me or motivate me,” Prograis told BoxingScene.com. “I’m self-motivated, so like for me, I just don’t worry about that. I don’t worry about the outside world. It don’t matter. I already beat the odds. Look where I’m at right now. I beat the odds already, so this little 4-1, that’s nothing for me.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-i-beat-odds-already-this-little-4-1-on-haney-fight-s-nothing-me--179879

So he is using this as motivate on this fight. You can have to check him out mate, he has a lot of his fights in Youtube and a champion here at 140 lbs and this is his territory. But his performance the last time was in question, and maybe this is the reason why odds maker are putting him as a huge underdog in this fight.

This is boxing, it's entertainment, whatever words that came into their mouth are probably just part of the marketing, you know, more people watching more money for thme, so they'll make everything to create a buzz. However, if it does motivate Prograis, then I guess we shall see.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on December 09, 2023, 09:26:25 PM

It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Regis knows what the odds are, but according to him, it doesn't matter,

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“It don’t insult me or motivate me,” Prograis told BoxingScene.com. “I’m self-motivated, so like for me, I just don’t worry about that. I don’t worry about the outside world. It don’t matter. I already beat the odds. Look where I’m at right now. I beat the odds already, so this little 4-1, that’s nothing for me.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-i-beat-odds-already-this-little-4-1-on-haney-fight-s-nothing-me--179879

So he is using this as motivate on this fight. You can have to check him out mate, he has a lot of his fights in Youtube and a champion here at 140 lbs and this is his territory. But his performance the last time was in question, and maybe this is the reason why odds maker are putting him as a huge underdog in this fight.

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