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Topic: Boxing: Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney (9th of December) - page 4. (Read 1795 times)

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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.

Haney is the challenger here mate and his debut for the 140 lbs division, that may be the reason of that odds but i do hope that Haney would not wear his running shoes so we could see the full potential of Prograis. Clinching and running, though part of the game, this would not make Haney a sellable fighter in the higher division.
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It is headshaking that odds on Devin Haney is 1.25. Is he being underestimated for this fight? This should be 1.05 very much similar to the other favored fighters for this event, I reckon.

However, I do not know this Prograis. Will he make this fight more challenging for Haney or will odds on Haney become 1.01 after round 5? I speculate that it will be 1.01 hehehehe.
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Perhaps the hatred is really real, or these boxers are just using it for motivation or like a psyche war, if Haney can get into Prograis head then he might have the edge when the fight begins because all Regis think is to go there and put Haney to sleep. But as we know, Haney uses skills to evade punches, so those early rounds will be crucial for Regis to touch Haney and let him feel his power.

I think that's what happen with Haney vs Linares, Jorge almost got Haney early and almost knock him down. But Haney was able to withstand those early rounds and then win the fight by decision. So let's see what will be the strategy of Prograis and his camp in this fight, it seems that they are really eager to get into the ring and beat up Haney.

Prograis can take a beating I have seen him take a beating against Zepeda and he managed to knock out Zepeda he can bring that kind of game to Haney then he has a chance to win, Prograis should take a chance because, between the two, Prograis is the bigger puncher he just need to negotiate the distance, Haney will always run and make his opponent pay for every mistake.
Prograis should be very aggressive so he can take off Haney's defense, Haney's defense seems impenetrable let's see if Prograis can solve that puzzle.
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I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.

I hope he can, he is highly motivated based on what we saw on their face off he really hates Haney, but that's what Haney wants you to feel, to hate him so he can use that hate against you, we have seen that happened on many of his matches, especially on Kambosos, he just waited for Kambosos to pour so he can counter.
We have a saying style makes a fight, even though Haney is the challenger I don't think will bring the fight to Prograis, only if he sees that he can take Prograis fight.

For Prograis to win he should dominate the early rounds or knock him out because Haney is good at accumulating points, especially in the latter or championship rounds, he should take the fight to Haney and try to take away Haney's game of hit and run.

For Haney to win, he will just wait for Prograis to make mistakes and pile up a lot of points Haney may be a boring fighter but his style is guaranteed to win the fight

Perhaps the hatred is really real, or these boxers are just using it for motivation or like a psyche war, if Haney can get into Prograis head then he might have the edge when the fight begins because all Regis think is to go there and put Haney to sleep. But as we know, Haney uses skills to evade punches, so those early rounds will be crucial for Regis to touch Haney and let him feel his power.

I think that's what happen with Haney vs Linares, Jorge almost got Haney early and almost knock him down. But Haney was able to withstand those early rounds and then win the fight by decision. So let's see what will be the strategy of Prograis and his camp in this fight, it seems that they are really eager to get into the ring and beat up Haney.
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I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.

I hope he can, he is highly motivated based on what we saw on their face off he really hates Haney, but that's what Haney wants you to feel, to hate him so he can use that hate against you, we have seen that happened on many of his matches, especially on Kambosos, he just waited for Kambosos to pour so he can counter.
We have a saying style makes a fight, even though Haney is the challenger I don't think will bring the fight to Prograis, only if he sees that he can take Prograis fight.

For Prograis to win he should dominate the early rounds or knock him out because Haney is good at accumulating points, especially in the latter or championship rounds, he should take the fight to Haney and try to take away Haney's game of hit and run.

For Haney to win, he will just wait for Prograis to make mistakes and pile up a lot of points Haney may be a boring fighter but his style is guaranteed to win the fight
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO.

This is a new division for Haney, and he is fighting one of the division's champion which is Prograis. And that's why there are so much hype in this fight as Haney is coming up in weight and trying to let's say bully the new division by fighting one of the toughest champion.

And then odd makers putting the champion as the underdog at 3:1. And then Prograis highlighting that he is going to knockout Devin Haney with his power, but Haney will rely on his boxing IQ or his defensive skills. So I believed as what you say, either Haney by decision or Prograis via brutal KO.

I would choose to see a brutal KO but not betting on it. You know, Haney is just too smart and that's the reason why lots of fans are hating him due to his style, like Shakur, they don't bring the excitement that is expecting for a boxing fight. Haney being the heavy favorite, I think Prograis felt disrespected since he's the champion, that's why he wanted to knockout Haney to prove to the people that he owns the throne.
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And here's the official weigh in,

Haney - 140 lbs
Prograis - 139 lbs

So no problem for both making the weight for this fight. Here is the video of the weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5i1BQ_uXww

Bill Haney and Evins Tobler at it going at each other again. We already know the odds for this fight, the champion is a huge underdog. And I know a couple who are beating on the underdog because of that huge pay day they will got if Prograis pulls a big upset.

I like how Prograis is the last one to back down during the staredown. I can see it in his eyes, he wants to hurt Haney badly. Haney thinks he is scary but as Prograis said before, ain't no pillow puncher scares him. Haney seems a little bigger but I wonder who rehydrates a lot during fight night. Prograis is a regular 140 guy while Haney is still young and growing. The importance of being the heavier and stronger guy at fight night dictates Haney's constant hugs. If Prograis is the stronger guy, he can control the clinches and Haney is in for the fight of his life.

Liam Paro vs Montana Love in the main supporting bout should be a good one. And to those who were disappointed because this is a PPV event, it's because Eddie's favorite fighter is in the undercard. Cheesy
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO.

This is a new division for Haney, and he is fighting one of the division's champion which is Prograis. And that's why there are so much hype in this fight as Haney is coming up in weight and trying to let's say bully the new division by fighting one of the toughest champion.

And then odd makers putting the champion as the underdog at 3:1. And then Prograis highlighting that he is going to knockout Devin Haney with his power, but Haney will rely on his boxing IQ or his defensive skills. So I believed as what you say, either Haney by decision or Prograis via brutal KO.
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.

Yeah, it's all available in here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/741718

While bookies are made Haney as the favorite, it doesn't guarantee he will win and will become a champion. All his fights probably are won easily by him but pause of a moment and see who own's this division.. It's Prograis, he is the defending champion, so being an underdog is probably a great opportunity to bet on. Actually, there's only two possible outcome we could see, either Haney winning via UD or Prograis will via KO.
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I wish this match happened with both fighters equally young. Right now this fight is tilted towards Haney because he is clearly at the top of his game. He is young. He is very athletic and hungry. Prograis could have much higher chances if he was as young as Haney. Although he is still a great boxer who can give Haney a good match and he has also got those powerful punches, I think Haney can easily manage to maintain a good distance and win by points.
Yes, Haney is really the favorite in this fight, especially since he hasn't been touched by defeat at all since making his debut on the professional stage. In fact, in 30 fights Haney managed to win 15 times by KO or TKO. In addition, Haney has a record of holding five lightweight championship belts.
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The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

I don't expect it to get very many buys. This just doesn't need to be on pay-per-view. The undercard is terrible and the main event fighters aren't some huge stars. Buying the DAZN subscription for a small discount is not worth it either because there's hardly any big fights included with the subscription. For $20 a month, which I'm sure they'll continue to increase, you only get guys like Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia in tuneup fights against outmatched opponents.

That's expected because Haney isn't a PPV attraction, I mean who would watch a boring fighter, right?

So I think the price are too expensive for a non exciting fight, they might have exaggerate things in the weigh in to create some hype but we've seen Haney's fight, most of them aren't entertaining, and if Haney would dictate the pace, we know what to expect already.

I guess I'll just wait for some free streams, if I could not see some streamers doing it, then no choice but to wait for the replay.
Maybe I would not check on the news, or this thread so I could still feel the excitement.
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The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

I don't expect it to get very many buys. This just doesn't need to be on pay-per-view. The undercard is terrible and the main event fighters aren't some huge stars. Buying the DAZN subscription for a small discount is not worth it either because there's hardly any big fights included with the subscription. For $20 a month, which I'm sure they'll continue to increase, you only get guys like Jake Paul and Ryan Garcia in tuneup fights against outmatched opponents.
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And here's the official weigh in,

Haney - 140 lbs
Prograis - 139 lbs

So no problem for both making the weight for this fight. Here is the video of the weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5i1BQ_uXww

Bill Haney and Evins Tobler at it going at each other again. We already know the odds for this fight, the champion is a huge underdog. And I know a couple who are beating on the underdog because of that huge pay day they will got if Prograis pulls a big upset.

One of the longest face off I've seen  Cheesy they don't like each other that's a good motivation for boxers when they are going to the ring, hopefully, they will convert it to a lot of action, one problem with Haney is the lack of engagement he prefers the Mayweather method to pile up points if Prograis does not have something to counter that hit and run by Haney it's going to be a long night for him.
For Prograis to win he needs to knock out to win, for Haney to win he will pile up points so lets see who's plan is goign to reign.
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And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

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The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

In my case, as I don't pay to watch the fights, I always wait for the fights to finish so I can watch the replay on YouTube, the problem with watching a replay of a fight is that the person immediately sees in the title of the video that fighter x won the fight so when I'm watching the video I always have that impatience of wanting to see in which minute or round the winner was, and this situation is very irritating, sometimes I get very bored of waiting until the minute or round in which the winner was and I fast forward the video until the such a minute that there was a winner and then I rewind the video from the beginning so I can watch it. I keep looking at those guys who are watching where the fight is being held

and I say that those guys are the real lucky ones, watching on TV or the internet doesn't have the same emotion as sitting in a chair and watching the fighters live, without being on TV or the internet, without having some annoying TV commentator, but unfortunately this one It's a privilege that I don't have, I don't even know in what century I would be so lucky as to watch high-level boxing matches live where the fight is taking place. So I'll have to wait for this fight to finish and the replay of the fight will be available for me to watch, I see Devin Haney coming out victorious in this fight
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And here's the official weigh in,

Haney - 140 lbs
Prograis - 139 lbs

So no problem for both making the weight for this fight. Here is the video of the weigh-in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5i1BQ_uXww

Bill Haney and Evins Tobler at it going at each other again. We already know the odds for this fight, the champion is a huge underdog. And I know a couple who are beating on the underdog because of that huge pay day they will got if Prograis pulls a big upset.
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And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

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The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

You can just bet on casinos as they have a live stream of these fights. You don't need to subscribe to those PPV as long as you have access to the sports betting platform and then you can cast it on your big screen when it's live on your phone. This is what I do when the match starts.

I'm betting for Haney by UD for this fight. Can't say for sure this will happen but most probably since he is new to this division and has inflated himself to get the weight.

Haney by UD currently is 1.39. Maybe for some this is not that attractive, but if you have good money to bet on this odd I think it will surely give you a good returns. And yeah, there's a lot of hype on this fight, Haney's first at 140 lbs and it will be against the champion in Prograis.

And if I'm not mistaken, this could be the first time that Haney will face a solid and powerful puncher. But Haney has the tools, as he is elusive and could be consider one of the best skillful defensive fighter we have right now. Also had a good boxing IQ. And probably that's one reason why odds maker put Prograis a 3:1 underdog in this fight.
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^ I don't think that Haney has inflated himself or have a hard time going into 140 lbs. I mean if you look at the 2 for me Haney is the bigger guy. So it means that his body would have adapted as this weight class without any other issue.

But I do agree with you that this might go on the judges scorecard just like his last fight with Loma. So possible that he will win by UD. Until Prograis caught him solid or Regis had a few good rounds and others that can go either way.

As for watching this live, maybe we have to be resourceful again so that we can watch if for free, if you guys know what I mean.
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And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

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The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.

You can just bet on casinos as they have a live stream of these fights. You don't need to subscribe to those PPV as long as you have access to the sports betting platform and then you can cast it on your big screen when it's live on your phone. This is what I do when the match starts.

I'm betting for Haney by UD for this fight. Can't say for sure this will happen but most probably since he is new to this division and has inflated himself to get the weight.
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And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.

For sure the ticket price is high for those who are in the front sets, they have a clear view to the actul fight so they have to pay for a bigger price. Anyway, we can also check the PPV price.

https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2023/12/06/6570bba322601df3438b4568.html

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The PPV price for subscribers is: $59.99, and $74.99 for non-subscribers. The monthly subscription to DAZN is $19.99 with a 12-month contract or $24.99 month-to-month in the U.S., while the annual subscription costs $224.99.

The PPV is also expensive especially if you are a non-subscriber, no wonder illegal streams are very popular.
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And tomorrow night will be the final weigh-in, hopefully I can get to watch it live too (timezone difference). But yeah, Bill Haney is running his mouth and both camps are really disrespectful against each other and for sure fans are hype.

And if I'm not mistaken, tickets is sold out expect maybe those upfront and those expensive tickets.

Hopefully both can really bring their A-game here and they can back up their talks pre-fight.
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