Topic: [Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2) - page 2. (Read 1163 times)

There were times in the fight that fans boo them, it's because there's not much action between the boxers and then Ryan doing those roll with his chin tuck, but Duarte was able to get some shots inside, so he hasn't perfected it by maybe this new trainer teaches him that defense. And I will also says that there's some improvement at least. Ryan is not that plodding, there is some feet movement.

Yes, their next target is Rolly Romero, he is a WBA champion, however he was supposed to full fill his mandatory until he got injured. So I think if the organization wanted to set up the fight, they can by pass it as what others governing body is doing right now.

At least as they are  going to benefit, the mandatories can wait. However, still depends on the timetable for Rolly as he is injured. Let's wait for him to heal first, for sure he would like to fight Ryan and both have big mouths too, so there will be good to promote this side. And we will see who will do good numbers, Romero vs Davis (reportedly 250,000 PPV buys), or Romero vs Garcia.

at least his winning via KO won't raise so many doubts but if it was split decision, i guess he will be booed up until the end or up until they announced the decision. duarte on the other hand, put a good fight. if he was more careful, he can really upset garcia by the looks of it. don't know if duarte's camp would like to get their re-match. but more then likely, garcia's camp is already looking for bigger name for his next fight.
and the running strategy? hope he won't practice that more often in his upcoming fights. else, he will be the next mayweather in the making here.. just thinking on the technical side and not what boxing fans want inside the ring. a toe-to-toe fight.

Duarte might got overwhelmed from the chants of the fans and I didn’t expect that he will lose via KO.
What Ryan did is a great statement that he is still a good boxer and lucky to those who bet with Ryan via KO. His running strategy works and loading a heavy punches landed him into a huge victory, there’s no doubt that he can still fight and I’m sure bigger fights are coming for Garcia.

It seems that Duarte took a dive in this fight, or maybe he was really hit so hard that he felt dizzy and cant' get up. We can see though that his legs was not there once Ryan touches him with those barrage of punches. So we must say that he still has that power, although there's a lot of loopholes on him.

He has the feet already, but ne needs more, still looks very flat footed to me. In any case, still a win for Ryan, so the hype continues for this kid and Golden Boy should get him another good fighter in his next fight to boost his confidence. Yes a Rolly Romero will be a great test for him, and I think he can beat Rolly. He just need to be smart and cover his chin and again uses more feet and movement.

As I have said in my prediction, this is going to happened in this fight, under 8.5 round and Ryan by stoppage.

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And I do like what Ryan did here, it seems there's some improvement when he jump trainer and move to Derrick James. We've seen movement, and not just relying to his power and his chin is more tuck although there are instance that he is almost going or showing his back against Duarte.

Not sure though his relationships with Oscar and GBP promotions. I think it has been damage already.

Teo Lopez or Rolly Romero should be next for Ryan to win a belt here.

Yeah, if he were to face a champion or even a fighter with a good rank, he would probably suffer another knockout. It appears that he was truly exposed, not the same guy as when he lost to Tank Davis. I wouldn't be surprised if his camp finds it challenging to secure a championship match due to his recent performance.

I guess he's done for this year; we can't expect to see him in another fight. Hopefully, next year, even in the second half, we will witness him in a championship match again. While Tank Davis is enjoying his champion status as one of the best now, Ryan Garcia is in the process of rebuilding his career, climbing the ladder once more. I now understand why boxers with undefeated records may be hesitant to risk fighting against a champion who has a real chance of beating them.

Maybe we can blame the fans for chanting the name of Duarte, that was probably the reason why Duarte got so aggressive and forgot to pay attention to his defense, disrespecting the power of Ryan Garcia. What Ryan Garcia showed was something new, I never thought he'd be so fast that Duarte could not catch him despite the latter was the one who keeps attacking.

You are right I replayed that moment when he was being counted his legs were not there and when he got up his legs were shaking, there were 11 seconds to go before the bell, and in those 11 seconds left Garcia could seriously hurt him, so its right that the referee stop the fight even though he barely made it

Yes and if Garcia won by decision fans would not like it, because he just keeps on running and refuses to engage, not the Garcia that people used to see.
This is not surprising since he has a new trainer and his trainer has mapped out a plan for Ryan, he wants Romero next but he doesn't want the money being offered to him by The Golden Boy promotion, let's see who will Garcia fight next I like to see him get a rematch against Gervonta.

I think that wasn't really the style of Garcia, he was probably feeling some injury on the rib that he was protecting it to be the target of Duarte. The win wasn't impressive, he failed our expectations but at least he was able to win the fight via KO. I don't know what's next for him, i think he needs more tune up fights like this and see if he can bring his old self, the one that isn't afraid to fight toe to toe, and wins via KO.

Who won here with their prediction Garcia win by KO in the 8th round, or the range for founds 7-10?

I also don't understand why Duarte didn't get up on time, maybe his legs was not still there so he didn't bother to beat the referee's count.

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Garcia did the job but for me that wasn't impressive, he was caught with that left hook of Duarte a couple of times, luckily it was not so lethal that he still stood despite all of that.

That is true, another loss for Garcia may give him so much mental stress. So yes, this will be a good motivation for him to fight next.
Bookies got it right as they heavily favored Garcia on this one. But not an easy fight for Garcia.
If Duarte was really prepared for this fight, upset was on the corner, easy. However, Garcia got it this time. Lucky for him though.

It looks that way but I don't want to take anything away from Ryan, Duarte has a lot to gain if he upsets Garcia so I doubt its deliberate, and Duarte admit it in the interview, it's obvious he is not yet ready to take hits like that because what I've seen on many of Duarte's fight is he is always the one giving the beating but its good that Garcia takes the win, he cannot afford another loss, he is eyeing a match against Teofimo but I hope he can renegotiate against because Rolly looks an easy fight than Teofimo.

I didn't watch the fight live but I was able to watch a replay of the entire fight, I confess that during the replay of the fight I couldn't understand how there was so much change in the final result of the fight, and that for me Duarte was doing well throughout the fight, he had more counterattack initiatives, in some cases he was even successful and in others he had to retreat because the opponent retreated to the ropes and that no longer gave Duarte space to counterattack, meanwhile Ryan Garcia really looked like he had learned He learned the lesson from his previous fight very well and he started not to make the same mistakes, he avoided getting too close to Duerte and didn't attack in the first place at the beginning of the fight.

This must be because he realized his mistake in the last fight in which he lost, so the guy started to protect his stomach well and kept running all the time to make Duerte chase him and consequently Duerte would get dizzy and tired, soon that would be enough. some strong punches to knock out Duerte, it was a very good strategy that Ryan used and this type of way of fighting can work very well against opponents who are good at knockouts and who have little resistance in fights that go until the last round, because they become more exhausted in the last rounds due to the fact that they want to end the fights early. We'll see what Ryan Garcia's next fight will be and congratulations on his victory

Yeah I watched the replay, Duarte could have continued but he chose to get up at 9 and a half sec making him late to beat the 10 counts.  It is also surprising that there are lots of angle where Duarte is at an advantage but fails to take the opportunity.

Anyway, I feel that this fight is made for Ryan to win but who knows,  that shot on the temple/near back on the top of the ear made Duarte lose his balance and eventually failed to beat the 10th count.  I hope this win will give Ryan Garcia a huge boost in his career.  I am a bit surprised on the KO though since I see Duarte defending but still Ryan's shots went through the defense and Duarte is all fine on his knee waiting for the count and eventually missed beating it. Looks like a deliberate loss though... (just my thought)

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

He said he felt his team abandoned him that time when he was to fight with Davis. Maybe it's true but I think he should have stayed with Canelo.
Ryan by the way claimed he made $30M in Davis fight, it must be worth it but if he only wants money he could haave agreed to fight with Manny Pacquiao when De la Hoya was trying to hyped it. I think this is where the relationship started to sour.

Ryan could come up as winning against Duarte. Hoping this will not be as controversial UD.

I wouldn't say that it's a huge shock to many, Ryan was the underdog that time, what's shock us is the manner on how he lost that time. His offense was not there, and there is nothing that he can do against Tank Davis. But later on we heard that the was a rehydration clause and it looks like Ryan wasn't able to rehydrate obviously.

But this time with no weight issues, he even goes above the 140 lbs here. So we shouldn't here any excuse after the fight if ever he lost that he was weight drain. Of course, I think majority of us here will be rooting for him. Maybe we are fans or just wanted to see this kid grow and become a world champion. So if he wins here, we wanted him to see against Teo Lopez or Haney.

Ryan have to bounce back here and make his name known again in the field of boxing, his first loss was a huge shock to many but that’s ok as long as he rise and bounce back again, I’m sure he can have a good promotions again. Few more hours and we will witness this two great boxer fighting for the belt, I’m rooting for Garcia here and he should be more confident this time and be more wise in throwing punches because Duarte is not an easy opponent for sure.

Oscar said it would end in a KO, whoever it will be we yet have to see https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1730664888219861265
Ryan in Spence training camp I think will make him better though so I think he can make it.

Ryan after the loss against Tank somehow woke up and learned GB doesn't care about their star but just cash grab out of them. But now he is also on crazier ground, his promotion disrespects him despite him being the only popular fighter in GB.