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Topic: [Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2) - page 7. (Read 1089 times)

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Garcia like Tank Davis said has poor boxing technics and I have to agree with that, Garcia is almost like the popular YouTubers who are turning to be boxers the only difference is that Garcia has a very strong left hook aside that his boxing game is poor.
I think he is a professional boxer first, before his social media successful. And I think it's the cause and effect of it, at a very young age he was a good boxer and so he has a lot of fans. And then him exposing more of himself in the social media, make him even more famous and create big hype. And as a result although he has lost against Tank Davis, there fight is the biggest fight for this year, generating 20++ millions in PPV alone.

I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.
In paper he seems to be a good boxer, with a high percentage of knockouts. And I would compare him to Luke Campbell whom Ryan face before, good boxer and has a decent power and then Ryan was caught experiencing his first knock down. So I think in the beginning it will be very difficult for Ryan but once he got his rhythm and landed his left hook he could win by a KO.
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Garcia like Tank Davis said has poor boxing technics and I have to agree with that, Garcia is almost like the popular YouTubers who are turning to be boxers the only difference is that Garcia has a very strong left hook aside that his boxing game is poor.

I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.

Tank Davis has the right to claim that because he defeated Ryan Garcia, he is the only boxer who has defeated King Ray. However, let's set aside Tank Davis for now as he has already reached a different level. Ryan is making his comeback, so let's see if he succeeds in that.

I'd also like to see Tank Davis fight Isaac Cruz in a rematch since Cruz is a tough opponent to crack. Their previous fight went the distance, lasting 12 rounds, and Davis won via unanimous decision. It was a highly entertaining fight as Isaac Cruz showed no fear of Tank Davis's power.
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Garcia like Tank Davis said has poor boxing technics and I have to agree with that, Garcia is almost like the popular YouTubers who are turning to be boxers the only difference is that Garcia has a very strong left hook aside that his boxing game is poor.

I don't know much about Oscar Duarte but I think he is also atmost an average boxer and Garcia even with his poor Technics should be able to put him away with a strong left hook that connects well.
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Man, Garcia still seeking on his first world title but Duarte is still a tough opponent , though not as tough as Gervonta, but Garcia still needs to improve his skills and tighten his chin and stamina for him to keep up with the elite fighter globally.
I know Garcia is still young and has still a lot of room to improve but I hope he's now more cautious and tripled his effort on his upcoming fights.
This could be a good bounce back fight for Garcia after his big loss to Davis, I'm sure Garcia already learned the lesson here and will improve more.
Looking at the previous fights of Duarte, it loos like he's a tough opponent as well so if Garcia wants to win here I agree that he should tripled his effort on improving his skills and his self so he can match the energy of his opponent. This can be an exciting match, and I'm still rooting for Gracia on this match.

Tough indeed and like what @AmoreJaz have said above that this is not a cherry picked opponent, as far as the record is concerned. By merely looking at the record of Duarte alone, i could say that Team Garcia is pretty serious on bouncing back after that KO loss to Davis. That was record breaking on the Ryan's part so picking a tough opponent for a bounce back is the way to go.
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^^ I mean that's how the stare down should happened though, this boxers doesn't want to show some sign of weakness and so the first one to break in the stare down will look weak and Ryan doesn't want that. Besides, he has a lot of experienced facing good boxers and knockout artist so he just want to impose his will in the beginning and get a psychological advantage.

But I do agree that this could be a great fight, we will see Rya bouncing back from that Tank's lost and he chooses a knockout artist in Duarte. Maybe he wanted to  really test himself again and specially with his new trainer in his side. So this is just the kick off presser and for sure Ryan being the social media king, might tweet something to start the trash talk.

this is by no means a cherry pick for garcia as duarte's record is impressive. so yeah, maybe, garcia's camp wants to test his strength to a KO artist. if garcia can pull it off, maybe, they can get a bigger name on the table.
the preparation is only a month. garcia is still the favourite here. but if you fancy an upset, well, you can pick duarte here.
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^^ I mean that's how the stare down should happened though, this boxers doesn't want to show some sign of weakness and so the first one to break in the stare down will look weak and Ryan doesn't want that. Besides, he has a lot of experienced facing good boxers and knockout artist so he just want to impose his will in the beginning and get a psychological advantage.

But I do agree that this could be a great fight, we will see Rya bouncing back from that Tank's lost and he chooses a knockout artist in Duarte. Maybe he wanted to  really test himself again and specially with his new trainer in his side. So this is just the kick off presser and for sure Ryan being the social media king, might tweet something to start the trash talk.
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Man, Garcia still seeking on his first world title but Duarte is still a tough opponent , though not as tough as Gervonta, but Garcia still needs to improve his skills and tighten his chin and stamina for him to keep up with the elite fighter globally.
I know Garcia is still young and has still a lot of room to improve but I hope he's now more cautious and tripled his effort on his upcoming fights.
This could be a good bounce back fight for Garcia after his big loss to Davis, I'm sure Garcia already learned the lesson here and will improve more.
Looking at the previous fights of Duarte, it loos like he's a tough opponent as well so if Garcia wants to win here I agree that he should tripled his effort on improving his skills and his self so he can match the energy of his opponent. This can be an exciting match, and I'm still rooting for Gracia on this match.
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.


I think I'll check out these boxers first because I'm not familiar with them. What I really want to see is the main event, as I'm looking forward to watching Ryan Garcia's comeback after his loss against Tank Davis. I'm sure he's had enough time to think and will be more motivated to train since he's experienced a loss. He's no longer undefeated, so it's like he's starting from scratch to prove himself to the world.

You should take a look at these boxers, especially Ohara Davies, who hasn't lost a fight since 2018. I believe he can easily defeat Ismael Barroso from Venezuela because Barroso is already quite old at 40 years, nearing retirement age.

A 40-year-old boxer, I guess I already know who would win. Even Pacman, who is one of the greatest, struggled when he reached that age and eventually retired from boxing. This guy Barroso is just an ordinary boxer, so I would not expect a lot from him. Besides, it's not the main attraction, though.


However, in case he loses, I guess that defeat against Davis might have really affected his confidence. The mental aspect could become a topic of discussion, maybe even an excuse.
Every boxer tends to have their reasons when they lose a fight. If Ryan Garcia didn't make excuses after his loss to Tank Davis, I doubt he'll come up with that kind of excuse now. The boxing community would probably not take it well if he can't accept defeat.

Looking at Oscar Duarte Jurado's record, it's quite impressive. He's known for knocking out his opponents, and that makes him a dangerous opponent for Garcia, especially considering that Garcia has been knocked out before.

Well, so this means we are going to see an exciting fight. If Ryan makes a successful comeback, we will probably see him fight a champion in the future. But for now, his only focus is on beating Duarte. Thanks for the video you shared, @coin-investor. It's good to know that Duarte has great confidence in winning this fight.
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Every boxer tends to have their reasons when they lose a fight. If Ryan Garcia didn't make excuses after his loss to Tank Davis, I doubt he'll come up with that kind of excuse now. The boxing community would probably not take it well if he can't accept defeat.
He has no reason to make an excuse it's his comeback fight and he is obliged to do all the necessary preparation to make a successful comeback he cannot afford to lose now, the stake is very high in this fight, Ryan badly needs to win and he needs to win impressively and also Duarte needs a big leap in his career and this is his big chance to make a big leap.

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Looking at Oscar Duarte Jurado's record, it's quite impressive. He's known for knocking out his opponents, and that makes him a dangerous opponent for Garcia, especially considering that Garcia has been knocked out before.
Have you seen their faceoff, Duarte shows no fear and respect for Ryan he wants to show to everybody and to Ryan too that he can beat Ryan because he has weak spots that can be exploited. Whoever wins this fight will have a big turnaround in their boxing career, I know Ryan will still be a favorite here and he should correct whatever mistakes he made in his last fight

RYAN GARCIA GETS ANGRY & TRIES TO PUNK OSCAR DUARTE AT FIRST FACE OFF; REFUSES TO BREAK STAREDOWN
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.


I think I'll check out these boxers first because I'm not familiar with them. What I really want to see is the main event, as I'm looking forward to watching Ryan Garcia's comeback after his loss against Tank Davis. I'm sure he's had enough time to think and will be more motivated to train since he's experienced a loss. He's no longer undefeated, so it's like he's starting from scratch to prove himself to the world.

You should take a look at these boxers, especially Ohara Davies, who hasn't lost a fight since 2018. I believe he can easily defeat Ismael Barroso from Venezuela because Barroso is already quite old at 40 years, nearing retirement age.

However, in case he loses, I guess that defeat against Davis might have really affected his confidence. The mental aspect could become a topic of discussion, maybe even an excuse.
Every boxer tends to have their reasons when they lose a fight. If Ryan Garcia didn't make excuses after his loss to Tank Davis, I doubt he'll come up with that kind of excuse now. The boxing community would probably not take it well if he can't accept defeat.

Looking at Oscar Duarte Jurado's record, it's quite impressive. He's known for knocking out his opponents, and that makes him a dangerous opponent for Garcia, especially considering that Garcia has been knocked out before.
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.


I think I'll check out these boxers first because I'm not familiar with them. What I really want to see is the main event, as I'm looking forward to watching Ryan Garcia's comeback after his loss against Tank Davis. I'm sure he's had enough time to think and will be more motivated to train since he's experienced a loss. He's no longer undefeated, so it's like he's starting from scratch to prove himself to the world.

However, in case he loses, I guess that defeat against Davis might have really affected his confidence. The mental aspect could become a topic of discussion, maybe even an excuse.
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.

I think this is a good undercard by GBP, Ohara will make his debut in the US soil against a very tough Barroso who recently fought Rolly Romero. But it was a back and forth fight and the referee stop the fight and it was somewhat a big controversial.

And this will be for the WBA Super Lightweight Interim World Championship so expect a lot of fireworks in this fight.

This is great addition indeed, I like to see Davies as there are a lot of hype win this boxer. I have to check his boxrec though and see why is the hype or at least what the fans and boxing writers are really creating a lot of noise on him.

But it could be a big mistakes for him if he is going to face the veteran in Barroso. Although usually this tough fighters are really on the sunset of their careers and he could be a good stepping stone for Ohara to make a impression on the American audience.

Another corrupt sanctioning body doing another magic trick then. I am confident Ohara Davies will beat that joke champion Rolly Romero. I don't even understand why the WBA allowed Rolly to face a senior citizen for the vacant belt when there are Ohara and other high-ranking fighters. It's all about money and politics nowadays. I think Davies is mandatory and is overdue for a title shot but the WBA is allowing PBC to hostage the belt. And knowing how weak Rolly is, PBC won't let fighters from other networks just beat him and gain some fame.

But this is a good fight knowing Barroso was winning over Rolly before the referee saved PBC's baby boy. This one should be for the real WBA belt and not for the garbage interim belt. But we'll see if Ohara can easily beat Barroso. Ohara beating Barroso with ease though will only make PBC and Rolly more scared to comply with its obligation to face him.
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.

I think this is a good undercard by GBP, Ohara will make his debut in the US soil against a very tough Barroso who recently fought Rolly Romero. But it was a back and forth fight and the referee stop the fight and it was somewhat a big controversial.

And this will be for the WBA Super Lightweight Interim World Championship so expect a lot of fireworks in this fight.

This is great addition indeed, I like to see Davies as there are a lot of hype win this boxer. I have to check his boxrec though and see why is the hype or at least what the fans and boxing writers are really creating a lot of noise on him.

But it could be a big mistakes for him if he is going to face the veteran in Barroso. Although usually this tough fighters are really on the sunset of their careers and he could be a good stepping stone for Ohara to make a impression on the American audience.
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Added to the undercard is Ohara Davies vs. Ismael Barroso.

I think this is a good undercard by GBP, Ohara will make his debut in the US soil against a very tough Barroso who recently fought Rolly Romero. But it was a back and forth fight and the referee stop the fight and it was somewhat a big controversial.

And this will be for the WBA Super Lightweight Interim World Championship so expect a lot of fireworks in this fight.
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The complete name is Oscar Duarte Jurado. I think it's Jurado and not Duarte that's his family name.

Regardless of the names though, here is the boxrec: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/671857

I like the new opponent of Ryan Garcia. Even though he is not really one of the stars at 140, he has a good record. Garcia is definitely his biggest fight but it looks like he's well prepared for it. He has been doing good in his professional career. His only loss was even just a split decision. It could be given to him. So he's almost undefeated.

But I'm surprised when I checked the early odds at oddschecker. Garcia is 1.17 favorite and Jurado is 5.0 underdog. I might risk my money with Jurado.

Goodluck with your bet mate, I mean he is unknown boxer at 140 lbs, he is not even rank at at this weight classes. And it's interesting that he is rank number 11 at lightweight (135 lbs). So I'm not surprised by the odds being given to us, 5:1 underdog seems to be fair for the unknown Duarte.

And most likely warm up fight for Ryan Garcia, just to get back to his rhythm. Also interesting what will be his new coach strategy or what new things can we seen on Ryan Garcia here.

I'd rather bet on an unknown boxer this time around than a Ryan Garcia who is widely popular but seems to be carrying so much baggage. The odds may look fair but part of it may be also due to the fact that the opponent is the King Ryan Garcia. But lol on that. Ryan isn't the king. Fury have every reason to consider himself as the king. The same goes probably to Canelo. But never to Ryan.

I'm also excited how Derrick James would prepare Ryan. Joe Goossen failed to bring back the old Ryan. Or perhaps it's only Ryan who can bring back his old self.

I guess that is the title that he bestowed on himself. And I think it was really good for him unless he was beaten by Tank Davis. So yeah, make sense if you think that you will go and bet on Ryan Garcia because he has a unknown opponent and the odds are really that good, we can't complain.

But we will see if he has change some in his fighting style since he is being trained by Derrick James. Although the former trainer of the year doesn't have a good year because of the lost of Spence and Charlo, still good though for him to take a risk with Ryan and see if there is improvement or not or if Ryan will be the one to bring Derrick James in the winning column. This trainers as well are very competitive as they want to out think each other as well. But most likely I think BoMac the trainer of Crawford could be the trainer of the year, in my opinion.
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Man, Garcia still seeking on his first world title but Duarte is still a tough opponent , though not as tough as Gervonta, but Garcia still needs to improve his skills and tighten his chin and stamina for him to keep up with the elite fighter globally.
I know Garcia is still young and has still a lot of room to improve but I hope he's now more cautious and tripled his effort on his upcoming fights.
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In my opinion, this will be a fight to try to clean up Ryan Garcia's image and attract the attention of great fighters, I don't know so far about Oscar Duarte's potential, I don't know if he will be able to be stronger to the point of quickly beating Ryan Garcia, but there is no doubt that a loss for Ryan Garcia in this fight would not go down well, and it is easier for people to accept a loss for Oscar Duarte in this fight than for them to accept a loss for Ryan Garcia in this fight. I've been reading people's comments on many YouTube channels and it seems to me that there is a consensus of opinion that this will be a fight in which there will be pressure on Ryan's side in terms of him not losing at the risk of displeasing many fans and losing some of his shine

and currently in combat sports marketing reaches extreme levels especially when you have an athlete with a great reputation for having few or no defeats, being the ko champion, being the guy who has the strongest punches, being the undefeated champion, so when a fighter doesn't have any of that, he doesn't have attention, and becomes a secondary character in fights, and ryan garcia won't want to fall so much that he becomes a secondary character, in this fight ryan garcia is the youngest, at 25 years old against Duarte who has been a professional fighter since 2013, although I have seen comments saying that any of the fighters who win this fight will gain attention from the big fighters, I still think that the pressure is more on Ryan's side
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So I kind of agree with the odds although I was also expecting something like 1.22 for Kingry earlier.

Most likely, the odds will be like that, probably not higher than 1.30.

Ryan Garcia is trying to redeem himself after a devastating loss to Tank. With a decent opponent, I'm sure he will be tested to see if he is really back in boxing. He isn't undefeated anymore, but his one loss could be the best learning experience for him. Who knows, he might have a rematch with Tank Davis in the future. For now, he has to focus on coming back strong.

Yeah, most likely the odds will be higher as Ryan Garcia is facing a unknown caliber fighter. And so with others who is just making a comeback after a devastating lost, they will get a fighter that might have a good in paper but for sure this is a careful match making on the side of Golden Boy. And most likely everything is back to normal with Ryan and Oscar as they will have to promote this fight again.

Ryan needs to win this one and forget how his lost to Tank Davis is. Because if he keeps on thinking about that fight then he can't go and move on his career. And we shouldn't be surprised that this is 140 lbs as this could be the weight class that Ryan could be comfortable as he doesn't need to weight drain himself.

Ryan's life is already assured if his finances are being managed well plus he is also a social media influencer which also helps him earn a lot regularly. So he should stay focused on his boxing career and try his best to become a world champion. Once he becomes a champion then that is the time he can consider challenging Tank again for a rematch at 140.

Yes with the revenue of the fight against Tank, he is a multi millionaire at a young age. But this kind of money though is not going to be enough for this young boxers. They will have to look for fights that can generated more for them I reckon. And so after his fight with Davis, they set him up against a upcoming fighter but I still see it as a tune up although it could really be a big test for him.

Ryan's opponent though cannot be underestimated. He is moving up in weight for this fight but he is a good fighter and just like Ryan, he is also a prospect. And I won't be surprised that Oscar De La Hoya wants Ryan to lose since the kid is expected not to renew his contract soon.

It will be interesting what will be the outcome of this fight and also what will be his relationship with Oscar. Who is the beginning, the fans see a lot of similarities between the two. But they have this kind of love and hate relationship. So not sure if this is Ryan's late fight with Oscar or there will be another one. But one things for sure, it seem that the relationship between the two has somewhat had a crack already. And I see Ryan leaving Oscar once his contract expire and maybe moved to Eddie Hearn of Match Room or maybe even to PBC.
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Ryan's opponent though cannot be underestimated. He is moving up in weight for this fight but he is a good fighter and just like Ryan, he is also a prospect. And I won't be surprised that Oscar De La Hoya wants Ryan to lose since the kid is expected not to renew his contract soon.

It's about time that Ryan moved out of The Golden Boy Promotion, he did not achieve anything and will not achieve anything if he continues to stay with The Golden Boy Promotion, Oscar wants Ryan more than Ryan wants the Golden Boy Promotion.
A new promotion is what Ryan needs to give him a new direction, Haney, Tank, and Romero are now champions but look at Ryan he is left behind he is the king of social media but he has no belt, a social media title is nothing you cannot establish your legacy without a World title.
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So I kind of agree with the odds although I was also expecting something like 1.22 for Kingry earlier.

Most likely, the odds will be like that, probably not higher than 1.30.

Ryan Garcia is trying to redeem himself after a devastating loss to Tank. With a decent opponent, I'm sure he will be tested to see if he is really back in boxing. He isn't undefeated anymore, but his one loss could be the best learning experience for him. Who knows, he might have a rematch with Tank Davis in the future. For now, he has to focus on coming back strong.

Yeah, most likely the odds will be higher as Ryan Garcia is facing a unknown caliber fighter. And so with others who is just making a comeback after a devastating lost, they will get a fighter that might have a good in paper but for sure this is a careful match making on the side of Golden Boy. And most likely everything is back to normal with Ryan and Oscar as they will have to promote this fight again.

Ryan needs to win this one and forget how his lost to Tank Davis is. Because if he keeps on thinking about that fight then he can't go and move on his career. And we shouldn't be surprised that this is 140 lbs as this could be the weight class that Ryan could be comfortable as he doesn't need to weight drain himself.

Ryan's life is already assured if his finances are being managed well plus he is also a social media influencer which also helps him earn a lot regularly. So he should stay focused on his boxing career and try his best to become a world champion. Once he becomes a champion then that is the time he can consider challenging Tank again for a rematch at 140.

Ryan's opponent though cannot be underestimated. He is moving up in weight for this fight but he is a good fighter and just like Ryan, he is also a prospect. And I won't be surprised that Oscar De La Hoya wants Ryan to lose since the kid is expected not to renew his contract soon.
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