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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 04, 2023, 09:57:55 AM

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So I kind of agree with the odds although I was also expecting something like 1.22 for Kingry earlier.

Most likely, the odds will be like that, probably not higher than 1.30.

Ryan Garcia is trying to redeem himself after a devastating loss to Tank. With a decent opponent, I'm sure he will be tested to see if he is really back in boxing. He isn't undefeated anymore, but his one loss could be the best learning experience for him. Who knows, he might have a rematch with Tank Davis in the future. For now, he has to focus on coming back strong.

Yeah, most likely the odds will be higher as Ryan Garcia is facing a unknown caliber fighter. And so with others who is just making a comeback after a devastating lost, they will get a fighter that might have a good in paper but for sure this is a careful match making on the side of Golden Boy. And most likely everything is back to normal with Ryan and Oscar as they will have to promote this fight again.

Ryan needs to win this one and forget how his lost to Tank Davis is. Because if he keeps on thinking about that fight then he can't go and move on his career. And we shouldn't be surprised that this is 140 lbs as this could be the weight class that Ryan could be comfortable as he doesn't need to weight drain himself.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 04, 2023, 07:26:06 AM

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The complete name is Oscar Duarte Jurado. I think it's Jurado and not Duarte that's his family name.

Regardless of the names though, here is the boxrec: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/671857

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 03, 2023, 11:45:47 PM

I like the new opponent of Ryan Garcia. Even though he is not really one of the stars at 140, he has a good record. Garcia is definitely his biggest fight but it looks like he's well prepared for it. He has been doing good in his professional career. His only loss was even just a split decision. It could be given to him. So he's almost undefeated.

But I'm surprised when I checked the early odds at oddschecker. Garcia is 1.17 favorite and Jurado is 5.0 underdog. I might risk my money with Jurado.

Goodluck with your bet mate, I mean he is unknown boxer at 140 lbs, he is not even rank at at this weight classes. And it's interesting that he is rank number 11 at lightweight (135 lbs). So I'm not surprised by the odds being given to us, 5:1 underdog seems to be fair for the unknown Duarte.

And most likely warm up fight for Ryan Garcia, just to get back to his rhythm. Also interesting what will be his new coach strategy or what new things can we seen on Ryan Garcia here.

I'd rather bet on an unknown boxer this time around than a Ryan Garcia who is widely popular but seems to be carrying so much baggage. The odds may look fair but part of it may be also due to the fact that the opponent is the King Ryan Garcia. But lol on that. Ryan isn't the king. Fury have every reason to consider himself as the king. The same goes probably to Canelo. But never to Ryan.

I'm also excited how Derrick James would prepare Ryan. Joe Goossen failed to bring back the old Ryan. Or perhaps it's only Ryan who can bring back his old self.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 04, 2023, 10:08:03 AM

Well, with that profit I guess I'll be able to recover on it. I mean, I think Garcia isn't aiming to be undefeated and besides that's a lesson he may take until he fight against Duarte and that's a huge motivation.

He enjoyed the biggest fight of his career in terms of money, it's just unfortunate that he lose the fight.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 04, 2023, 10:08:03 AM

Too young tbh and more fight to conquer. I don't think it's a downgrade of a match, his opponent only lost once as well in his career and has more fights than him, I mean it could be an edge for a boxer but that depends on their ring IQ I guess as well.

Maybe 'downgrade' is not the right term, but still, Ryan Garcia is more popular than his opponent, so fans might think this would be an easy match for him. And in terms of the quality of opponents, I believe Ryan Garcia has faced better-quality opponents that he has beaten, not including Davis, of course.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 04, 2023, 02:06:09 AM

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I went through the record of his opponent, and I find it very impressive.

After his first loss in 2019 against Adrian Estrella, he was already on a winning streak until May 2023. I find this impressive because all of his wins did not go to the judges' scorecards, meaning this boxer has power, which I think would really match Ryan Garcia.

Judging by his record and Ryan's, I expect that this fight is going to be a war, a toe-to-toe battle where only one man is left standing in the end. A KO is likely to happen, and as for who would win, I don't know, but most likely it's Ryan (hopefully).

Wow, that's an impressive record to be honest, he may not be known but likely he wants to be known and that's his job if he can take down Garcia. I know Garcia will be the favorite here but it's a tough job for Garcia as well in my opinion considering his lost to Davis would still have that effect on how he fights now. Well, I think Garcia may need to bounce back but I guess I'll favor with Duarte in this fight.

I hope the money they earned in that fight was able to help him recover from that big loss because it was reported that they made a significant amount of money, and the PPV numbers were impressive as well. So he is back now, trying to test himself again against a boxer who has power and could possibly KO him if Garcia does not give his full effort to train. This is a downgrade of an opponent on his part, but he lost against Davis, so he has to start over again.

Besides, he is only 25 years old, so he is still young to recover and be a champion again.

Well, with that profit I guess I'll be able to recover on it. I mean, I think Garcia isn't aiming to be undefeated and besides that's a lesson he may take until he fight against Duarte and that's a huge motivation. Too young tbh and more fight to conquer. I don't think it's a downgrade of a match, his opponent only lost once as well in his career and has more fights than him, I mean it could be an edge for a boxer but that depends on their ring IQ I guess as well.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 04, 2023, 09:34:00 AM

So I kind of agree with the odds although I was also expecting something like 1.22 for Kingry earlier.

Most likely, the odds will be like that, probably not higher than 1.30.

Ryan Garcia is trying to redeem himself after a devastating loss to Tank. With a decent opponent, I'm sure he will be tested to see if he is really back in boxing. He isn't undefeated anymore, but his one loss could be the best learning experience for him. Who knows, he might have a rematch with Tank Davis in the future. For now, he has to focus on coming back strong.

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Quote from: btc_angela on October 04, 2023, 07:26:06 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 03, 2023, 11:45:47 PM

The complete name is Oscar Duarte Jurado. I think it's Jurado and not Duarte that's his family name.

Regardless of the names though, here is the boxrec: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/671857

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 03, 2023, 11:45:47 PM

I like the new opponent of Ryan Garcia. Even though he is not really one of the stars at 140, he has a good record. Garcia is definitely his biggest fight but it looks like he's well prepared for it. He has been doing good in his professional career. His only loss was even just a split decision. It could be given to him. So he's almost undefeated.

But I'm surprised when I checked the early odds at oddschecker. Garcia is 1.17 favorite and Jurado is 5.0 underdog. I might risk my money with Jurado.

Goodluck with your bet mate, I mean he is unknown boxer at 140 lbs, he is not even rank at at this weight classes. And it's interesting that he is rank number 11 at lightweight (135 lbs). So I'm not surprised by the odds being given to us, 5:1 underdog seems to be fair for the unknown Duarte.

And most likely warm up fight for Ryan Garcia, just to get back to his rhythm. Also interesting what will be his new coach strategy or what new things can we seen on Ryan Garcia here.

So Ryan Garcia is really serious about continuing his boxing career. I am not sure if the lawsuit with Golden Boy Promotions is already settled hence he is back fighting for De La Hoya.

I also checked Ryan Garcia's opponent and I noticed that he is indeed a lightweight fighter. So this time Kingry is the one pushing his opponent to move up into unknown territory which is some sort of an exploitation. Apart from that Duarte Jurado is a decent opponent with a good record and fought decent opponents. The fight is happening this coming December 2 which means he can also set up a proper training camp. So I kind of agree with the odds although I was also expecting something like 1.22 for Kingry earlier.

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Quote from: Dave1 on October 04, 2023, 08:55:47 AM

And with this fight, he is the A-side, maybe $5 million guarantee for him and then a chance to redeem himself.

Not sure if he could receive that amount since it's not a championship fight, I think the estimate is too high.

Quote from: Dave1 on October 04, 2023, 08:55:47 AM

This is also 140 lbs, so he might stay here for good and fight other young champions like Teo Lopez who just won a belt here against Josh Taylor. And then the upcoming Prograis (champion) vs Devin Haney.

Maybe this one if he becomes a challenger. It will be interesting if he would fight Teofimo Lopez as the latter is not so dominant. So most likely, we are gonna witness a close fight, and with Ryan's height advantage, I think he might give the champion some trouble.

He wasn't able his height advantage against Tank Davis, maybe with Teo it will work.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 04, 2023, 02:06:09 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 03, 2023, 05:29:26 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2023, 05:59:59 AM

I went through the record of his opponent, and I find it very impressive.

After his first loss in 2019 against Adrian Estrella, he was already on a winning streak until May 2023. I find this impressive because all of his wins did not go to the judges' scorecards, meaning this boxer has power, which I think would really match Ryan Garcia.

Judging by his record and Ryan's, I expect that this fight is going to be a war, a toe-to-toe battle where only one man is left standing in the end. A KO is likely to happen, and as for who would win, I don't know, but most likely it's Ryan (hopefully).

Wow, that's an impressive record to be honest, he may not be known but likely he wants to be known and that's his job if he can take down Garcia. I know Garcia will be the favorite here but it's a tough job for Garcia as well in my opinion considering his lost to Davis would still have that effect on how he fights now. Well, I think Garcia may need to bounce back but I guess I'll favor with Duarte in this fight.

I hope the money they earned in that fight was able to help him recover from that big loss because it was reported that they made a significant amount of money, and the PPV numbers were impressive as well. So he is back now, trying to test himself again against a boxer who has power and could possibly KO him if Garcia does not give his full effort to train. This is a downgrade of an opponent on his part, but he lost against Davis, so he has to start over again.

Besides, he is only 25 years old, so he is still young to recover and be a champion again.

Correct, so far, his fight with Tank Davis was the biggest fight for this year, bigger than Crawford vs Spence and last weekend's Canelo vs Charlo. So I think Ryan is all set and good for his future and his family as he is making lots of money at his age.

And with this fight, he is the A-side, maybe $5 million guarantee for him and then a chance to redeem himself.

This is also 140 lbs, so he might stay here for good and fight other young champions like Teo Lopez who just won a belt here against Josh Taylor. And then the upcoming Prograis (champion) vs Devin Haney.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 03, 2023, 11:45:47 PM

The complete name is Oscar Duarte Jurado. I think it's Jurado and not Duarte that's his family name.

Regardless of the names though, here is the boxrec: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/671857

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on October 03, 2023, 11:45:47 PM

I like the new opponent of Ryan Garcia. Even though he is not really one of the stars at 140, he has a good record. Garcia is definitely his biggest fight but it looks like he's well prepared for it. He has been doing good in his professional career. His only loss was even just a split decision. It could be given to him. So he's almost undefeated.

But I'm surprised when I checked the early odds at oddschecker. Garcia is 1.17 favorite and Jurado is 5.0 underdog. I might risk my money with Jurado.

Goodluck with your bet mate, I mean he is unknown boxer at 140 lbs, he is not even rank at at this weight classes. And it's interesting that he is rank number 11 at lightweight (135 lbs). So I'm not surprised by the odds being given to us, 5:1 underdog seems to be fair for the unknown Duarte.

And most likely warm up fight for Ryan Garcia, just to get back to his rhythm. Also interesting what will be his new coach strategy or what new things can we seen on Ryan Garcia here.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on October 03, 2023, 05:29:26 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2023, 05:59:59 AM

I went through the record of his opponent, and I find it very impressive.

After his first loss in 2019 against Adrian Estrella, he was already on a winning streak until May 2023. I find this impressive because all of his wins did not go to the judges' scorecards, meaning this boxer has power, which I think would really match Ryan Garcia.

Judging by his record and Ryan's, I expect that this fight is going to be a war, a toe-to-toe battle where only one man is left standing in the end. A KO is likely to happen, and as for who would win, I don't know, but most likely it's Ryan (hopefully).

Wow, that's an impressive record to be honest, he may not be known but likely he wants to be known and that's his job if he can take down Garcia. I know Garcia will be the favorite here but it's a tough job for Garcia as well in my opinion considering his lost to Davis would still have that effect on how he fights now. Well, I think Garcia may need to bounce back but I guess I'll favor with Duarte in this fight.

I hope the money they earned in that fight was able to help him recover from that big loss because it was reported that they made a significant amount of money, and the PPV numbers were impressive as well. So he is back now, trying to test himself again against a boxer who has power and could possibly KO him if Garcia does not give his full effort to train. This is a downgrade of an opponent on his part, but he lost against Davis, so he has to start over again.

Besides, he is only 25 years old, so he is still young to recover and be a champion again.

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Quote from: aioc on October 03, 2023, 09:58:55 AM

It's a cherry-picked fight, Ryan's promotion is good in picking the right opponent, and a good record but is beatable by Garcia, they need to get Ryan on top again he holds the best record in PPV, and he is still a crowd drawer even though he has no legitimate title in his name.

Ryan has everything the social media king, a crowd drawer but his team failed to convert his success in boxing, I have doubts about Derrick James' as a trainer two successive losses in a big fight are not good in Ryan's campaign.

I'm sure he will beat Duarte but he needs to show something different, we need a hungry and obsessive Ryan and hopefully we'll see it in this fight.

Right, Ryan Garcia is a social media darling and a PPV drawer so an opponent with a record like that of Duarte is what they need to at least draw some hype on his next fight.

But mind you, this Duarte is not a pushover compared to some of Ryan Garcia's opponent and i think they would evaluate Duarte furthermore to see if he is a right opponent for Garcia's comeback fight and if there assessment he is a risk then they would cancel this plan, they have done this a few times already and i would not be surprised if one day Team Garcia would announce that he has having this mental issues once again thus cancelling the fight hehe.

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The complete name is Oscar Duarte Jurado. I think it's Jurado and not Duarte that's his family name.

I like the new opponent of Ryan Garcia. Even though he is not really one of the stars at 140, he has a good record. Garcia is definitely his biggest fight but it looks like he's well prepared for it. He has been doing good in his professional career. His only loss was even just a split decision. It could be given to him. So he's almost undefeated.

But I'm surprised when I checked the early odds at oddschecker. Garcia is 1.17 favorite and Jurado is 5.0 underdog. I might risk my money with Jurado.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 03, 2023, 10:07:20 PM

With all the hype surrounding Ryan Garcia and his last embarrassing loss to Tank Davis, the pressure is definitely on him to rebound and get himself a big win. Two losses in a row for a guy that everyone was claiming was going to be the next great thing would be pretty bad for his career. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

He may have been marketed as the next big thing but most fans are well aware of his limitations. The hype surrounding him is based more on his popularity than his talent. Golden Boy is going to match him carefully until they can cash out on him right before his contract expires. It'll be interesting to see if he can win impressively and remain a PPV attraction or if he will get exposed by one of these fringe contenders like Duarte before he is even able to challenge another champion.

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 03, 2023, 10:07:20 PM

With all the hype surrounding Ryan Garcia and his last embarrassing loss to Tank Davis, the pressure is definitely on him to rebound and get himself a big win. Two losses in a row for a guy that everyone was claiming was going to be the next great thing would be pretty bad for his career. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

That is true, although the pressure if not that high if he is facing a fighter like the caliber of Oscar Duarte. No offense to Oscar, his record is very impressive at 26-1-1 with 21 coming via knockout. But I do agree with the observation of others, this is a cherry pick fight and hopefully it will not turn bad to Ryan Garcia otherwise it might take years to recover if he losses to someone like a B-fighter in Duarte. And who knows, maybe if he losses here then he could go on another depression and mental struggles and perhaps this time it will be hard for him to overcome it. I'm seeing another Campbell fight for Ryan, he might struggle a bit but once he found his range he could score a lightning fast knockout, maybe rounds 5-8. And I'm seeing here Ryan to be the outstanding favorite regardless of what record Oscar Duarte has.

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With all the hype surrounding Ryan Garcia and his last embarrassing loss to Tank Davis, the pressure is definitely on him to rebound and get himself a big win. Two losses in a row for a guy that everyone was claiming was going to be the next great thing would be pretty bad for his career. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

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For those who said that Oscar Duarte's record is impressive, yes it is. But you have to take a look at the quality of his opponents. His fights are mostly in Mexico, and most of his opponents have worst win-lost records. So obviously what he face in Mexico is what other boxing pundits call "cab drivers". They are pitted against Duarte to pad his record and to look like he is really have that kind of power. So for me, this is win-win situation for Ryan, in paper his opponents looks like a knockout artist, but I'm seeing that Ryan will win here by an impressive knockout and bring back his confidence again in the ring. This seems to be just a tune up and cherry pick fight, obviously, after that devastating lost to Tank Davis, he will have to start from scratch and restore his self-esteem again to be called "King" Ry.

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Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2023, 05:59:59 AM

I went through the record of his opponent, and I find it very impressive.

After his first loss in 2019 against Adrian Estrella, he was already on a winning streak until May 2023. I find this impressive because all of his wins did not go to the judges' scorecards, meaning this boxer has power, which I think would really match Ryan Garcia.

Judging by his record and Ryan's, I expect that this fight is going to be a war, a toe-to-toe battle where only one man is left standing in the end. A KO is likely to happen, and as for who would win, I don't know, but most likely it's Ryan (hopefully).

Wow, that's an impressive record to be honest, he may not be known but likely he wants to be known and that's his job if he can take down Garcia. I know Garcia will be the favorite here but it's a tough job for Garcia as well in my opinion considering his lost to Davis would still have that effect on how he fights now. Well, I think Garcia may need to bounce back but I guess I'll favor with Duarte in this fight.

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Quote from: aioc on October 03, 2023, 09:58:55 AM

It's a cherry-picked fight, Ryan's promotion is good in picking the right opponent, and a good record but is beatable by Garcia, they need to get Ryan on top again he holds the best record in PPV, and he is still a crowd drawer even though he has no legitimate title in his name.

Ryan has everything the social media king, a crowd drawer but his team failed to convert his success in boxing, I have doubts about Derrick James' as a trainer two successive losses in a big fight are not good in Ryan's campaign.

I'm sure he will beat Duarte but he needs to show something different, we need a hungry and obsessive Ryan and hopefully we'll see it in this fight.

garcia should not take this fight for granted even if it seems cherry-picked. he needs to finish the fight as soon as possible. even if the name of duarte is not that popular, but it seems that his record is a good one. if upset will happen on this one, garcia would have hard time finding the next good fight for him. duarte has high percentage of KO wins as well. so for me, this is no easy fight for garcia.

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I'm not too familiar with Duarte but his record looks good. He's fought decent opponents and has a high knockout percentage. He is coming off a knockout loss so I don't consider this a cherry pick. They could have chosen someone with more losses and less power. This is the kind of test that Ryan Garcia needs before he can fight another champion. There's no doubt Garcia will be the favorite but if the odds are too lopsided that it isn't very profitable to bet on him then it becomes really tempting to pick the underdog.

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It's a cherry-picked fight, Ryan's promotion is good in picking the right opponent, and a good record but is beatable by Garcia, they need to get Ryan on top again he holds the best record in PPV, and he is still a crowd drawer even though he has no legitimate title in his name.

Ryan has everything the social media king, a crowd drawer but his team failed to convert his success in boxing, I have doubts about Derrick James' as a trainer two successive losses in a big fight are not good in Ryan's campaign.

I'm sure he will beat Duarte but he needs to show something different, we need a hungry and obsessive Ryan and hopefully we'll see it in this fight.

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