Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 112. (Read 32168 times)

It will be nice to see him fight a former champ from this division as it can boost him up if he will manage to win over Nery, the timing is important as there are many fights that may take place before they will negotiate his next fight, we all know that this sport is not just an ordinary one but a business that needs to have a good promoter so everything will be in place.

Skills wise, Casimero needs to keep adding more in enhancing his potentials it's not that far from his last weight and his body already adopts this new one, so better to make complete adjustments both on his speed and his power combinations.

Yes, for all we know he might have been underestimating Nghitumbwa and when he bring him down, he thought that the fight is going to be over soon. So he still manage to win though, but as you have said, visibly exhausted Casimero after round 6.

Hopefully him and his camp seen how his performance and for us, it's not good, and he needs to improved especially if in his next fight, he will be going against any top 5 rank boxer in WBO, so that could be a problem for his if he doesn't have a good gas tank to last full 12 rounds.

I agree and even his performance against Nghitumbwa will not be suffice to be challenge rank fighter in my opinion.

Although when I check the rankings now, and if I'm not mistaken, Casimero is rank 8 before his fight and with this win, he bolted to rank 5. So most likely, if I wanted who Casimero should fight next, it could be Luis Nery or Ra'eese Aleem in WBO.

Him and Nery has been calling each other out since Casimero become a champion at 118 lbs and Nery that time was a champion too at 122 lbs. And now that Casimero has move up in weight, it make sense that they can now fight.

That's true. So Casimero's dream of fighting Inoue lies in the outcome of the results of his upcoming fight against Fulton. If Inoue loses, he might just get it because I doubt Marlon Tapales would just easily agree with him considering his rank will go down after that defeat. And there's a long line of super bantamweights who want the title so bad so he needs to wait.

But I highly doubt Casimero's performance against Fillipus Nghitumbwa would suffice to defeat Inoue. He better increase his stamina first because he cannot just throw those haymakers and expect it to land as always, plus it's more exhausting if it misses. Casimero definitely has the power punch but fewer jabs will make him lose if ever the fight will turn out in the judges' decision.
I want to see it happen though and just end that long trend about why Inoue is avoiding him.

Casimero continues to challenge Inoue while Inoue has no answer. It seems like Inoue is focused on his upcoming fight, and Casimero might not be given an opportunity if Inoue wins the championship. I mean, it's possible for Inoue to fight Casimero and defend his title, but what if he decides to have a unification fight with the other champion? That would leave Casimero with no chance of chasing Inoue.

If Inoue becomes a unified and then undisputed champion, he might move up again.

It may not be an excuse but still a lot of people were not satisfied with his performance as it may not be enough to beat Naoya moving forward. He may have knocked down Nghitumbwa but were still able to fight back and if Casimero didn't have a good head movement he may have lost this fight. Also, one of the noticeable thing about Casimero is that he looked exhausted after round 6. Clearly he lacks proper conditioning and stamina, these are the most important feature a fighter must posses specially when you're aiming to beat the top elite fighters.

So if he is that Nghitumbwa whene he rehydrated, it just shows that Casimero has the power to knock down everyone in the division.

And most likely the power is really felt by Akaho that's why he quit against Casimero.  So we will see who is going to be the next opponent of Casimero, I think he can still make a fight before the end of the year? He should be more active again so that he will be just inch closer to another chance at any belt or if he targets WBO as he held the belt at 118 lbs then it's a good strategy as well.

Well, I think many will agree that it was really the elbow that has done Joe Fournier, yes it should be a disqualification for KSI, but again if the Referee didn't see it it was a clean right hand for KSI, but the announcer was clearly shouting that it was a clean Elbow but in the midst of the fight even JJ or KSI isn't really aware what has already hit Fournier or maybe he is really just denying it, and in the heat of the fight I think he is more surprising that it has happened,

And for calling out Tommy Fury like that I really think that Tommy Fury is a step up for KSI, even for Jake Paul, I just really think that these guys isn't really ready for a Tommy Fury,


If this is true then Casimero will definitely be going to have a hardtime with Fillipus Nghitumbwa but surely the fight has already happened and even though Fillipus Nghitumbwa has already rehydrated the fight has already finished and John Riel Casimero has already won the fight as it should have happened but Casimero having a hard time knocking out Fillipus Nghitumbwa, and regardless of the result of the fight I think the fight is already settled and changing the result into a knockout is not really an option,

Regarding Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, I've read that Nghitumbwa rehydrate after the weigh-in in this fight to close to 150 lbs or even more. And probably this is the reason why Casimero has a hard time to really knock him out for good because he goes and become heavy after the limit of 122 lbs during weight in. Not saying that this is a excuse or Casimero's power is not there anymore. But obviously it's hard to knockout if lets say he just go and added additional 10-12 lbs in his frame while his opponent very tall Nghitumbwa and heavier weight close to super welweightweight class.

A rematch won't be reasonable enough because KSI did some dirty tricks to Fournier that somehow made him the winner of this bout, if this will be reviewed, I reckon that KSI should be granted a disqualification and the fight will not be listed as valid. This kind of actions should not be taken lightly because Fournier could've been lying right now in the hospital fighting for his own life if he has received a much serious damage.

And for KSI calling and challenging Tommy Fury to fight him next, I doubt that the latter will give him some time nor entertain him after what he has done that gave an embarrassment to the sport.

Wrong date, I guess. You are correct. There's so many boxing matches that happened that day and I did miss that fight too, I just watched in full replay after I found that issue that went wrong for Fournier's side. He didn't even know what hit him after he came back to his senses.
Revised, rematch, or disqualified, I think anything would be good for Fournier as long as the promoters will do something about it. He already filed an appeal and I do bet he will win it because the elbow that KSI did was too obvious when the replay was shown. It's too fast during live and you will think it's a punch but one replay says it all, didn't even need to put it in slow motion.

Sure is. It's all about the money and challenging Tommy Fury would be the best path to gain more popularity. But I have some doubts it will happen that fast as Tommy might want to finish the case with Fournier and KSI first before he agrees to any contract with him.

Nope, I think most users are watching Jason Moloney vs Vincent Astrolabio and Casimero vs Nghitumbwa, seems like KSI lost it's popularity or he was choose a wrong date.

Well if KSI did an illegal punch, it's not fair KSI won via KO, it's need to be revised or rematch. AFAIK shot back of someone head is also illegal too in MMA, so it's really a dirty play by KSI.

Tommy Fury was previously beat Jake Paul, obviously this fight could increase KSI's popularity in case if he win.

Watching Rolando Rolly Romero's previous fights and highlight pushing is pretty much common for this autistic guy, No offense to autism but looking at Rolly Romero he just looks like he has Autism and ADHD mostly in the way that he fights and talks to Gervonta Davis, surely this kid got the skill and has strength in his strikes but his looks like he has Autism, he constantly will have a deduction because of his pushing and shoving and sometimes it will count as a knockdown, but surely I was relieved when Gervonta Davis knocks him out to give him a lesson, but surely his antics never stop there this kind can not be humbled by Davis and if he wants a fight with Ryan Garcia then I think I would love to see that and just like you I want Ryan Garcia to give him a real beating body blows and Knock him out cold, Ryan Garcia just needs to be careful with Romero's Signature move the Push and Shove,


Speculation says that Tony Weeks was paid a hefty sum to fix the fight in favor of Rolly Romero, the scorecards were really awful for Ismael Barroso but surely Ismael Barroso's camp should get a petition for that unfair stoppage of Tony Weeks, and Weeks reputation is in departy

for sure if Ryan Garcia would accept this fight this would like an easy fight for him, Rolando Romero for me looks like he has Autism, in his mannerism and the way he talks, that pushing is so normal for him that the referee gives him a deduction because of it,

I agree that Tapales is in a good position to get a big money fight against the winner of Inoue vs. Fulton, however, I very much disagree that he is in a good position to unify the championships in the super bantamweight division. I am sorry to tell Tapales fans this but he might be the more unchallenging opponent for either Inuoe or Fulton.

In any case, what are the latest news updates on Fulton or Inoue? The sportsbooks have removed their listing for the fight. I saw Stephen Fulton's odds was 3.05 in sportsbet.io. They are underestimating him, I reckon.

Did you guys watch the KSI versus Fournier fight? Another controversial ending in the world of boxing and the referee was in a blindside position that's why he didn't catch it. At least one of the judges should tell it to the referee before he counted to 10.
In the first round, Fournier was also complaining about the shot to the back of his head and then the push that made him fall, luckily the referee saw it and didn't count as a knockdown.
Whoever the committee on this fight should really try to review what happened there. It doesn't look like boxing but more like MMA.  
And, it could be a dangerous thing that could send Fournier to the hospital because his eyes rolled after dropping on the canvas from an unexpected shot.
KSI now challenging Tommy Fury.

Here is the statement of Fournier. (edited: KSI before)
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1423530/ksi-brutally-kos-joe-fournier-controversial-elbow/

Not a good call for the Filipino fighter to take the unlikely draw decision for the judge's scorecards against Takeshi Inoue but still a pretty much interesting fight to watch look if the judges do the scoring right the match is so much close that I can not say for sure you got to check a strike by strike look for both fighters, to surely see if what has happened with the fight,


We can never expect that was the case for Ryan Garcia but it could also be true as a kid he thinks maybe there is no need for training at all and maybe it is just OK to make some instant training with the punching bag and have a self-confidence like Ryan Garcia is if this is true then it is a good thing that he losses his fight against Gervonta Davis and this could be a wake-up call for him, that he still young that needs to have the experience of how to lose, maybe it is time for Ryan Garcia to wake up from all the fantasies he is getting for hanging out with Logan Paul and take boxing more seriously,

That's just the way it is and I think the Ref know the incident where a boxer died due to not stopping the fight, so they just doing their job well to avoid that thing happening again. A few days ago a Pilipino boxer died in a coma after the fight, although he won the fight, he took enough damage to surely felt it after the fight which lead to his demise. I'm sure the refs are aware of it, that's why they are taking extra precautions to keep the boxers safe also if they don't want the result, they can take another chance to fight again and choose another ref if they want.

I watched the highlights of the fight and the replay of the 9th round knockdown.  It is obviously a push and Barroso isn't even hurt when he stood up.  Then after some exchange Tony Weeks stops the fight when it was clear on the replay that there is no solid punch landed and Romero's push make it looks like there is really a hard punch landed but in reality there were none.  The referee decision feels like he was paid by Romero's camp.  This is one disgusting thing about boxing, the miscalled of referee causing for the leading boxer to lose the match.


It is obvious... the replay said it all.



Lol, biggest robbery of the year, maybe? 

It's robbery. I read that Tony Weeks refused to do an interview after the fight so he definitely knew it was a huge mistake. The question here is if it's really a "mistake" because a veteran referee would most likely let the fight go on.

An immediate rematch is in order after a highly controversial stoppage but I don't know if Barroso's body can recover that fast.

Yep, it was close to robbery and I think it will affect Tony Weeks reputation here. Barroso is in the corner but you can see that he is responsive and trying to get back into the fight and the sad part is that he is leading in the judges when it was stop.

Not sure about Romero though, seems to be one hit wonder boxer here. If I'm Ryan Garcia, I will definitely fight this dude and get that belt because he doesn't  deserved it. For sure he knows what happen to this fight and he was lucky that Tony Weeks stop it early in favor of him.