Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 108. (Read 31627 times)

Yeah, I don't know, maybe his head is bigger now since he has all the belts so his confidence is  very high. But I don't see any reason why he have to do that in the weigh in. Not sure if there is some stipulation in the contract that there should be no physical contact in the weigh in, otherwise he will have to literally pay for that in his own purse.


At 135 lbs? yeah, Floyd is very quick as well and can knockout everyone he trash talk as compare to Haney who doesn't have the power and has that weak chin. And it seems that fans are leaning towards Loma now because of that unprofessionalism he shows during the weigh-in. And it can backfire on him as Loma will surely be taking this personally now.

I'm annoyed at Haney for pushing Loma during the weigh in. Is he trying to become the next Mayweather? Do the villain thing by trash talking his opponents and then try to do something during face offs?

There's a big difference though between him and Mayweather. Mayweather was a KO artist before he became a defensive specialist when he kept moving up in weight and has brittled hands. That shove was probably the nearest thing Haney can do to try to put Loma down. I expect him to run, jab and hug later. Betting odds should have a 15 over or under on thr number of hugs Haney will do on Loma. I hope Loma can bring back his prime years later and teach Haney a lesson.

Let's put it that way, he can force a mandatory fight against Inoue, but It would be much wiser for Casimero's camp to take a gradual steps before going against Inoue. I've seen a few downsides on Casimero's most recent fight. He looks looks exhausted somewhere in the middle of the 12 round scheduled fight. He clearly lacks stamina and proper conditioning. That alone is a huge disadvantage against Inoue.
I'd rather say that Casimero will need to work his up again slowly but surely until he pick up the right pace to go against Inoue. It's always better to be ready than being hyped up but thinking you're ready but physically and mentally you're not.  

There is also a chance that KSI might be lying in his video that he feel that it was a punch but from a different angle it was an Elbow and further looking at the Tapology the result of the fight was changed from a Right hook Knockout to a No Contest Accidental Elbow well I got to see what is KSI or Olajide Olatunji's reaction to this because there was an angle and it was clear as day,




Well, it got a possibility but for me, I want to see another fight for him in the Super Bantamweight because even though it was a win I have doubts because the fight was not a Knockout win for him but I still Fillipus Nghitumbwa has a good chin for sure and Casimero was having a hard time knocking him out, but it was really a great fight that I really want it to end in a knockout Fillipus Nghitumbwa doesn't have a big fight I think John Riel Casimero was his only big fight,

May 20. We have a boxing-filled weekend.

Devin Haney and Vasiliy Lomachenko.
A clash that will be watched by a lot of boxing enthusiast. We want to see who will dominate with all the ruckus they are making in social media.
Here are the odds for the fight.
Winning odds.
Devin Haney - 1.38
Vasyl Lomachenko - 3.00
Winning method - By decision.
Devin Haney - 1.58
Vasyl Lomachenko - 4.10
Winning method - By KO
Devin Haney - 8.00
Vasyl Lomachenko - 8.80

Bookies say that the fight will not end on a KO and a decision in favor of Haney will end the fight. You decide. I am thinking about risking a bet for a Haney KO or a Lomachenko KO because of the heat they showed during weigh-in where Haney shoved Lomachenko and then run.

First time I heard about this title though, to be honest, I don't think it has enough weight though. The belt under the WBO is still the most recognized and then the other belt champion in other division.


Yeah, Casimero doesn't have any belt as of right now. So Inoue although has been taunt by Casimero before, will likely ignore him for now. There is another Filipino though that could be in the radar of Inoue and that is Marlon Tapales. So if Inoue wins against Fulton, he might look for another unification and it will be against a Filipino.

It is possible but I think the no.1 contender has more chance for the mandatory title defense unless the boxing council will give authority for the champion to pick his opponent.


As far as I know in their bantamweight day, they had an unfulfilled schedule fight.  It was canceled due to pandemic and was never been rescheduled again.  I also don't think that Inoue looks at Casimer as nobody because Casimero had proven himself by holding the WBO belt before it was stripped from him.  The belt was stripped not won by Butler against him.  It (belt strip) maybe cost by carelessness of Casimero but we cannot deny the fact that Casimero was a WBO bantamweight champion while Inoue is holding the other belt.

Casimero is a WBO Global super bantamweight title holder now, I think he can force a mandatory fight with Inoue when Inoue successfully defeats Fulton. I'm not so sure about this but its possible. If no one else is just willing to fight Inoue why not Casimero.

To Inoue however Casimero is a nobody. I guess its one reason he wouldn't respond to a call after all they couldn't just decide on their own.

I agree here, perhaps knowing that his fight is going to be in Manila and then cherry picking an opponent, he might not be 100% in this fight. Perhaps he just want to show boat or something and knockout Fillipus, but the guy is tough, good chin and has the tools to almost beat Casimero in this fight.


He has been criticized by his fans and boxing pundits around. Casimero will need a solid performance in 122 lbs if he wanted to remain relevant in this division. His past 2 performances will not attract Inoue's camp to fight him.

From the video circulating on the social media it's clear that the ref is just in front of it but given the benefits of doubt with the reply above that's a valid argument, judges and announcers saw it so better to have an investigation to give this fight a justification. It's not a clear KO as it was the elbow that hit and from a clear angle that being shared that's really something especially for the credential of this sport and the organization.

Nope. The ref saw it, he is right in front of them. He can't be looking somewhere else but he just didn't realize it was an elbow.

Though I think it wasn't his intention to elbow, it's just not fair to take credit for the KO KSI did celebrate like he landed a clean shot. He still is winning the fight as far as I can see his overhead shots lands several times.

It's true that the referee didn't saw it as he was not in a certain angle when that particular incident happened but the judges, announcers and the people sitting on the front row saw it go down. That alone makes a valid point on why the fight should be investigated further and be reviewed by the board because if they just let this slide issue slide, it will have a negative outcome towards them instead of making KSI pay for what he has done.

I couldn't agree more. Casimero may have won that fight but he still fell short on the people's expectation which is somehow reasonable enough because it is really possible that Casimero he can do more and could execute more if he wasn't distracted. And while he seems to be underestimating Filipus, he might've lost that fight if the latter came prepared as Casimero was really struggling to close the fight with an exclamation.

If John Riel Casimero really wanted to continue his love towards making a video, then he should make a choice so that he can focus on the things which he really wanted to do. Being a part-time vlogger while having an upcoming fight is a big no no because a slight distraction will make a difference when you're inside the ring fighting for your life and career, Casimero should already know the word discipline as he is not new anymore to this industry. Now if he kept on doing this, his preparations to be in a championship fight soon will probably be wasted as it will not make him ready at all.

There's a reason why Casimero went to Thailand during his fight in Korea for him to focus. I also do not believe that Casimero was fully focused during his training camp in Cebu, Ph. He might have underestimated Fillipus which is why he avoided a more costly training camp abroad like Thailand. Casimero's lifestyle and becoming a part-time vlogger make it more difficult for him to focus if he stays in the country during training camps.

The fight is already done. Many fans did not appreciate Casimero's poor performance during that fight. Filippus might be heavy during fight night but that cannot be an excuse if you are looking for a fight with Naoya Inoue.

Maybe, but they were given enough time to train, so how can you say that he didn't have the best preparation? The guy was a KO artist, so he really has the power punch to knock out Casimero, but it didn't happen. People are still unsatisfied despite Casimero winning the fight, but they didn't realize that Phillipus Nghitumbwa is a great fighter, which is why Casimero had a hard time defeating his opponent.

The excuse given was that he was training in his home country and might have been distracted during training. However, let's avoid discussing excuses here, as both fighters are expected to perform at their best during the fight so the winner should be appreciated.

I had already commented on this subject that boxing, UFC and other sports have become a very big business, the market is so big that there are many things in the marketing machine such as: making the fighter have a very large fan base , have a lot of followers on social networks so that the fighter can get sponsorship from big companies, whether they are related to the sport or not, even at a private party, fighters pay to go to the party and smile, something that I see as very unnecessary and strange, but even that currently exists, so because of all the marketing and money involved, fighters constantly need to be in the spotlight

but unlike the world of music where the singer is taking off his clothes, appears drunk or high or creates some controversy with his fellow singer to get media attention, fighters don't get a lot of attention doing this, the only way a fighter can get a lot of attention and winning fights, and in Casimero's case his victory wasn't convincing, his opponent was the subject of jokes all over the internet and nobody had faith in Nghitumbwa, most people expected that Nghitumbwa would be knocked out in a short time and they didn't expect that Nghitumbwa was going to hit Casimero, I saw comments saying that Casimero didn't manage to knock out because Nghitumbw probably rehydrated him after the weigh-in, but how do you explain that Phillipus Nghitumbwa landed his punches on Casimero

fact is that even though Phillipus Nghitumbwa didn't have the best preparation conditions, he went to fight on equal terms against John Riel Casimero, I really believe that if Phillipus Nghitumbwa had the good conditions that athletes from abroad have, he would come out victorious in that fight . in terms of image, Casimero after this fight will no longer be seen with much expectation, what he could do was take a long time to prepare and get a fight with a very strong and popular fighter and in case of his victory, he would have very attention

After that MF & DAZN X Series 7: KSI vs Joe Fournier event where it ends up in a controversial win on Olajide Olatunji also known as KSI because the fight was going really smoothly for Olajide Olatunji or KSI but because that right hook at look like an elbow strike they really talk about this one and saying that it was an elbow but right now after hearing what Olajide Olatunji or KSI have to say in his Youtube Channel I truly understand it all, here is the Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3TR18xcXbE

Now hearing his explanation he had a point in it he doesn't train to elbow people and Joe Fournier was moving forward and the right hook hit him and the elbow also hit him he is not really saying that he didn't really hit Fournier with an Elbow but he has known in himself that it was a clean right hook but it also kind of like an elbow on the different angle so yeah I think he is waiting for a further decision and hope it will be a good one because it could be changed into a No Contest result, but indeed KSI is pretty much OK with it and just waiting for the official decision,

It will be nice to see him fight a former champ from this division as it can boost him up if he will manage to win over Nery, the timing is important as there are many fights that may take place before they will negotiate his next fight, we all know that this sport is not just an ordinary one but a business that needs to have a good promoter so everything will be in place.

Skills wise, Casimero needs to keep adding more in enhancing his potentials it's not that far from his last weight and his body already adopts this new one, so better to make complete adjustments both on his speed and his power combinations.

Yes, for all we know he might have been underestimating Nghitumbwa and when he bring him down, he thought that the fight is going to be over soon. So he still manage to win though, but as you have said, visibly exhausted Casimero after round 6.

Hopefully him and his camp seen how his performance and for us, it's not good, and he needs to improved especially if in his next fight, he will be going against any top 5 rank boxer in WBO, so that could be a problem for his if he doesn't have a good gas tank to last full 12 rounds.