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I just finished watching the 9th round and I was shocked.
Those two knockdowns were both a push and the stoppage was the worst! Oh my God! How could that happen?
Barroso was still fighting back and in fact, his punches are sinking in, I don't know what Tony Weeks is thinking but that should be investigated. And I doubt he should use the reason for Barroso being cornered most of the time because that is part of his strategy.

Now Romero is calling out for Ryan Garcia and saying it will be the biggest fight of the year. Wow! I doubt that. I think Ryan should accept this and let him feel the power of the real punch. That is if he feels better after that clash against Gervonta Davis.
Romero's trainer/coach Bullet said Rolly has more tools so he could win versus Ryan. Perhaps they should start putting a date.  Grin

Watching Rolando Rolly Romero's previous fights and highlight pushing is pretty much common for this autistic guy, No offense to autism but looking at Rolly Romero he just looks like he has Autism and ADHD mostly in the way that he fights and talks to Gervonta Davis, surely this kid got the skill and has strength in his strikes but his looks like he has Autism, he constantly will have a deduction because of his pushing and shoving and sometimes it will count as a knockdown, but surely I was relieved when Gervonta Davis knocks him out to give him a lesson, but surely his antics never stop there this kind can not be humbled by Davis and if he wants a fight with Ryan Garcia then I think I would love to see that and just like you I want Ryan Garcia to give him a real beating body blows and Knock him out cold, Ryan Garcia just needs to be careful with Romero's Signature move the Push and Shove,

Yep, it was close to robbery and I think it will affect Tony Weeks reputation here. Barroso is in the corner but you can see that he is responsive and trying to get back into the fight and the sad part is that he is leading in the judges when it was stop.

Not sure about Romero though, seems to be one hit wonder boxer here. If I'm Ryan Garcia, I will definitely fight this dude and get that belt because he doesn't  deserved it. For sure he knows what happen to this fight and he was lucky that Tony Weeks stop it early in favor of him.

Speculation says that Tony Weeks was paid a hefty sum to fix the fight in favor of Rolly Romero, the scorecards were really awful for Ismael Barroso but surely Ismael Barroso's camp should get a petition for that unfair stoppage of Tony Weeks, and Weeks reputation is in departy

for sure if Ryan Garcia would accept this fight this would like an easy fight for him, Rolando Romero for me looks like he has Autism, in his mannerism and the way he talks, that pushing is so normal for him that the referee gives him a deduction because of it,

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Tapales deserves a big fight, and I hope he will get the opportunity to fight the winner of this fight, especially if the champion goes directly into a unification fight. The bantamweight division has been very competitive since Inoue left, and it's exciting to see that we don't know who will win the fights between champions. If Inoue were still in this division, it would be easy to predict the winner since he is a very dominant boxer.
Tapales isn't in the same division like both Moloney and Astrolabio, Tapales is super bantamweight division while both of Moloney and Astrolabio are in bantamweight division. The only one big fight for Tapales is the winner of either Inoue or Fulton, I think there's will be no politic in this fight because Inoue is really like a new challenge and Fulton seems not to be have a strict organizer.

Yes, that's right! Tapales will have his big fight after winning the belt, if either Fulton or Inoue whoever will win from their upcoming fight will proceed and will try to unify the belts then it will be a big money fight for Tapales, he's the one who are in a good position right now he just needed to keep enhancing his skills as knowing the capability of both Fulton and Inoue both are really competitive and strong fighters who can face anyone.

I agree that Tapales is in a good position to get a big money fight against the winner of Inoue vs. Fulton, however, I very much disagree that he is in a good position to unify the championships in the super bantamweight division. I am sorry to tell Tapales fans this but he might be the more unchallenging opponent for either Inuoe or Fulton.

In any case, what are the latest news updates on Fulton or Inoue? The sportsbooks have removed their listing for the fight. I saw Stephen Fulton's odds was 3.05 in sportsbet.io. They are underestimating him, I reckon.
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Did you guys watch the KSI versus Fournier fight? Another controversial ending in the world of boxing and the referee was in a blindside position that's why he didn't catch it. At least one of the judges should tell it to the referee before he counted to 10.
In the first round, Fournier was also complaining about the shot to the back of his head and then the push that made him fall, luckily the referee saw it and didn't count as a knockdown.
Whoever the committee on this fight should really try to review what happened there. It doesn't look like boxing but more like MMA.  Cheesy
And, it could be a dangerous thing that could send Fournier to the hospital because his eyes rolled after dropping on the canvas from an unexpected shot.
KSI now challenging Tommy Fury.

Here is the statement of Fournier. (edited: KSI before)
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“I knew fighting the promoter there would be every angle in his [favour], but to call this a KO instead of a disqualification after an intentional elbow is disgusting!

“We will be appealing this decision Monday and I hope both [KSI and Misfits Boxing, and Professional Boxing Association] do the right thing and show their integrity to the sport of boxing!”
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1423530/ksi-brutally-kos-joe-fournier-controversial-elbow/
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I am waiting for Casimero and Nghitumbwa's fight. While waiting, I happen to see a live stream and there's the underdog fighting.
Another Filipino Boxer, Weljon Mindoro versus a Japanese fighter Takeshi Inoue. The round is currently at 10/12 and about to close the match soon. I guess this will end with a unanimous decision. Both are tough fighters and this is a good appetizer before watching the main event.

Not a good call for the Filipino fighter to take the unlikely draw decision for the judge's scorecards against Takeshi Inoue but still a pretty much interesting fight to watch look if the judges do the scoring right the match is so much close that I can not say for sure you got to check a strike by strike look for both fighters, to surely see if what has happened with the fight,

I read that Oscar is criticizing Ryan Garcia now, or at least giving him a advise as per what I read here:

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“Ryan Garcia has to rearrange his team, his inner circle,” De La Hoya told FightHubTV, “and then take it from there. And take boxing seriously and train harder and train smarter and have an actual training camp up in the mountains where you’re focused, where you have tunnel vision, that’s my opinion.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-says-ryan-garcia-needs-shake-up-his-team-implores-him-take-boxing-seriously-train-harder--174546

So maybe what we heard from Reynoso and Canelo Alvarez is true, that Ryan Garcia is not taking training seriously or not giving it 100% every fight. And now that he face a fighter that is elite, he was exposed, got knock out, first time in his career.

And maybe who knows, after this contract with Oscar will expire, we might see him moving and looking for a new manager.

We can never expect that was the case for Ryan Garcia but it could also be true as a kid he thinks maybe there is no need for training at all and maybe it is just OK to make some instant training with the punching bag and have a self-confidence like Ryan Garcia is if this is true then it is a good thing that he losses his fight against Gervonta Davis and this could be a wake-up call for him, that he still young that needs to have the experience of how to lose, maybe it is time for Ryan Garcia to wake up from all the fantasies he is getting for hanging out with Logan Paul and take boxing more seriously,

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It's robbery. I read that Tony Weeks refused to do an interview after the fight so he definitely knew it was a huge mistake. The question here is if it's really a "mistake" because a veteran referee would most likely let the fight go on.

That's just the way it is and I think the Ref know the incident where a boxer died due to not stopping the fight, so they just doing their job well to avoid that thing happening again. A few days ago a Pilipino boxer died in a coma after the fight, although he won the fight, he took enough damage to surely felt it after the fight which lead to his demise. I'm sure the refs are aware of it, that's why they are taking extra precautions to keep the boxers safe also if they don't want the result, they can take another chance to fight again and choose another ref if they want.
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There is another controversial fight, it's Romero vs Ismael Barroso.

Romero was down in this fight, but he scored his own knock down against Barroso (debatable) in round 9th. But for whatever reasons, the referee, Tony Weeks suddenly stop the fight.

Barroso is leading on the 3 score cards prior to the stoppage.

Here is the video, even the announcer was stunned by what Tony Weeks did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXHeCD0w8U

The 9th round knockdown indeed was somehow considered but more like Romero dragged Barroso down. It's a very awkward fight to watch, Rolly always using his left hand to clinch. Tony Weeks is known for his fair judgment but this one made him look like he is paid a thousand more from Rolly. Stoppage made this sport a mess, Barroso was screwed.

I watched the highlights of the fight and the replay of the 9th round knockdown.  It is obviously a push and Barroso isn't even hurt when he stood up.  Then after some exchange Tony Weeks stops the fight when it was clear on the replay that there is no solid punch landed and Romero's push make it looks like there is really a hard punch landed but in reality there were none.  The referee decision feels like he was paid by Romero's camp.  This is one disgusting thing about boxing, the miscalled of referee causing for the leading boxer to lose the match.

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Yep, it was close to robbery
It's robbery. I read that Tony Weeks refused to do an interview after the fight so he definitely knew it was a huge mistake. The question here is if it's really a "mistake" because a veteran referee would most likely let the fight go on.

It is obvious... the replay said it all.


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Now Romero is calling out for Ryan Garcia and saying it will be the biggest fight of the year. Wow! I doubt that.

Lol, biggest robbery of the year, maybe?  Cheesy
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Yep, it was close to robbery
It's robbery. I read that Tony Weeks refused to do an interview after the fight so he definitely knew it was a huge mistake. The question here is if it's really a "mistake" because a veteran referee would most likely let the fight go on.

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Now Romero is calling out for Ryan Garcia and saying it will be the biggest fight of the year. Wow! I doubt that.
An immediate rematch is in order after a highly controversial stoppage but I don't know if Barroso's body can recover that fast.
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There is another controversial fight, it's Romero vs Ismael Barroso.

Romero was down in this fight, but he scored his own knock down against Barroso (debatable) in round 9th. But for whatever reasons, the referee, Tony Weeks suddenly stop the fight.

Barroso is leading on the 3 score cards prior to the stoppage.

Here is the video, even the announcer was stunned by what Tony Weeks did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXHeCD0w8U
I just finished watching the 9th round and I was shocked.
Those two knockdowns were both a push and the stoppage was the worst! Oh my God! How could that happen?
Barroso was still fighting back and in fact, his punches are sinking in, I don't know what Tony Weeks is thinking but that should be investigated. And I doubt he should use the reason for Barroso being cornered most of the time because that is part of his strategy.
Yep, it was close to robbery and I think it will affect Tony Weeks reputation here. Barroso is in the corner but you can see that he is responsive and trying to get back into the fight and the sad part is that he is leading in the judges when it was stop.

Not sure about Romero though, seems to be one hit wonder boxer here. If I'm Ryan Garcia, I will definitely fight this dude and get that belt because he doesn't  deserved it. For sure he knows what happen to this fight and he was lucky that Tony Weeks stop it early in favor of him.
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There is another controversial fight, it's Romero vs Ismael Barroso.

Romero was down in this fight, but he scored his own knock down against Barroso (debatable) in round 9th. But for whatever reasons, the referee, Tony Weeks suddenly stop the fight.

Barroso is leading on the 3 score cards prior to the stoppage.

Here is the video, even the announcer was stunned by what Tony Weeks did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXHeCD0w8U
I just finished watching the 9th round and I was shocked.
Those two knockdowns were both a push and the stoppage was the worst! Oh my God! How could that happen?
Barroso was still fighting back and in fact, his punches are sinking in, I don't know what Tony Weeks is thinking but that should be investigated. And I doubt he should use the reason for Barroso being cornered most of the time because that is part of his strategy.

Now Romero is calling out for Ryan Garcia and saying it will be the biggest fight of the year. Wow! I doubt that. I think Ryan should accept this and let him feel the power of the real punch. That is if he feels better after that clash against Gervonta Davis.
Romero's trainer/coach Bullet said Rolly has more tools so he could win versus Ryan. Perhaps they should start putting a date.  Grin
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There is another controversial fight, it's Romero vs Ismael Barroso.

Romero was down in this fight, but he scored his own knock down against Barroso (debatable) in round 9th. But for whatever reasons, the referee, Tony Weeks suddenly stop the fight.

Barroso is leading on the 3 score cards prior to the stoppage.

Here is the video, even the announcer was stunned by what Tony Weeks did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXHeCD0w8U

Corruption in boxing! It was disgraceful how the fight was called and stopped, that push from Rolando Romero and was called by Tony Weeks as a knockdown was another thing for a disgraceful call, by Tony Weeks, and this is a sure picked fight Barroso is already 40 years old you can see him wobble inside the ring, he is that old but Romero was allergic to left hook, that Ismael Barroso was pressuring Romero towards the fight and Barroso could also win this even the score cards was all for Ismael Barroso, but that early Stoppage that Rolando Romero was hitting the shoulder and air has ended the call Rolando Romero  winning the fight in punching the Shoulder and Air, what a joke,

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Thanks for that mate, I thought that it is on this day but I happen to be that advance as I got confused with the timezone. We have to support our man this time.
It's not just all about boasting but giving him the support that he needs even if we bet or not and we'll just want to watch his match. I really thought that it was today.

I also thought that this fight is going to happen in 24 hours? Perhaps the time is local to PH that's why it is going to be Saturday on their time zone? So from from I read, Casimero dropped Nghitumbwa in round 6. But he was able to survived but eventually lost on the judges scorecard.

Not the win that we wanted to see for Casimero as we are rooting for a knockout so that he can make a noise again. But as what we have said, a win is a win at least it's not like the same result as Akaho wherein it was very disappointing fight. At least Nghitumbwa makes his promised that he will fight till the end and bring his game against Casimero. So congrats for John Riel and off he go for another belt in this division.
Yeah, he has said and boasted that in the media that he'll give us a spectacular win but still, this is still a win for him. Now, it's going to be his next plan and what it would be. Will he go to the same division where Inoue is also there?
But I guess it's still too early for him to think about this since he just been through a fight or it's already on his books for the next fight that he's gonna take before this year ends.
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There is another controversial fight, it's Romero vs Ismael Barroso.

Romero was down in this fight, but he scored his own knock down against Barroso (debatable) in round 9th. But for whatever reasons, the referee, Tony Weeks suddenly stop the fight.

Barroso is leading on the 3 score cards prior to the stoppage.

Here is the video, even the announcer was stunned by what Tony Weeks did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXHeCD0w8U

The 9th round knockdown indeed was somehow considered but more like Romero dragged Barroso down. It's a very awkward fight to watch, Rolly always using his left hand to clinch. Tony Weeks is known for his fair judgment but this one made him look like he is paid a thousand more from Rolly. Stoppage made this sport a mess, Barroso was screwed.
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The main card seems bigger than the main event Cheesy

No doubt Alimkhanuly is really strong if we look it from his stats, but Butler isn't really a weak boxer, but Alimkhanuly is a huge favorite since the odds is 1.03x and the odds for Butler is 11.00x. I still don't see Alimkhanuly will definitely win this fight, maybe upset could happen in this match.

As for Moloney vs Astrolabio match, even though Moloney is a challenger, but he has a good chance to win in this fight.

Janibek Alimkhanuly vs Steven Butler was really a great fight to watch even though it didn't last long because in Round 2 Alimkhanuly delivered a devastating uppercut to Butler that causes him to wobble it was a very powerful blow that was then connected with much more punches, then a left hook that have finished Butler on round 2,

While Moloney and Astrolabio was a close fight but because of Moloney's technical style and his experience with boxing he prevail and got more hits than Astrolabio, incredible fight even though it is not a win for the Filipino boxer, Astrolabio doesn't have an an to be ashamed because Jason Maloney is a great fighter,

I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.
The fight is over, Casimero win via unanimous decision. Casimero never fought Inoue, it's not a rematch if this fight will happen, it's the first fight for him against Inoue. With this win, maybe Inoue would consider to fight with Casimero regardless Inour will or lose against Fulton.

However there's another match will happen in the next few hours, it's Moloney vs Astrolabio.

We can see the fast movement of Casimero against Fillipus Nghitumbwa he can surely evade all Fillipus Nghitumbwa's punches you can definitely see the length and the durability of Casimero's opponent and in round 6 John Riel Casimero Knockdown Fillipus Nghitumbwa but he got back up and finish the fight and from that, all Fillipus Nghitumbwa have done was to cover and run, both fighter has shown good boxing

However the Moloney vs Astrolabio was not bad but Astrolabio lost the fight, it was all in Moloney's textbook a close match, but Moloney won the fight that he uses fight IQ and experience to win against Vincent Astrolabio,
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There is another controversial fight, it's Romero vs Ismael Barroso.

Romero was down in this fight, but he scored his own knock down against Barroso (debatable) in round 9th. But for whatever reasons, the referee, Tony Weeks suddenly stop the fight.

Barroso is leading on the 3 score cards prior to the stoppage.

Here is the video, even the announcer was stunned by what Tony Weeks did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpXHeCD0w8U
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well, the technology doesn't lie. they can always review the recordings at all angles and see if Akaho was indeed telling the truth of being hurt or who's fault it was. this is the advantage of recordings, they can enlarge that angle and see what really happened. they should at least be fair on validating the results of this fight. we are seeing that casimero is now serious in going up with the weight division. so  let's see if there will be new updates in the coming days. or they will just be mum about the decision.


Well, technology surely can be helpful but in my opinion, it could also be a double edge sword, it could surely help some fights determine who really won the fight or it could also be a thing to fake something, but surely with the Akaho fight it can not be edited but there are some given cases that some could also create fake fights that could change something but I think we should be careful in believing something like that,



Janibek Alimkhanuly DEF Steven Butler - Janibek Alimkhanuly defeated Steven Butler, with a round 2 KO/TKO left hook it was total destruction for Steven Butler and Janibek Alimkhanuly was really impressive and still undefeated and that left uppercut that started Butler to get wobbled and the barrage of punches have come it for Butler it was total domination,

Jason Moloney VS Vincent Astrolabio - Let's say this fight was a close one both fighters are giving their all, but surely even though Astrolabio isn't quitting the fight Jason Maloney's experience and fight IQ have prevailed inside the ring, that Vincent Astrolabio doesn't have any answered to that,
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if garcia ha no focus here, we will see it in his upcoming fight with tank davis. the odds are highly favouring davis here and maybe these bookies are seeing that davis can easily defeat garcia. the people surrounding him is also important because they will guide him what real preparations should be. davis is no easy opponent, so he should take note of that. otherwise, he can easily lose this match without a fight.
It's confirmed if Garcia will have a rematch against Tank in the upcoming fight? that's crazy because I don't expect anything change from Garcia in the next fight. New or old coach, will not make Garcia become a different boxer and he don't have a tough chin, he can't go brawl against Tank.

Tank will become huge favorite in the next match since the first match is a solid win for him.

I don't think there is a rematch clause, to be activated, Ryan will have to win the first fight which he lost due to body shot knockout. And we've heard that Garcia is shopping for a new trainer and then Oscar says that Ryan should focused on his training.

So we will see what's Ryan's next move, but eventually he will have to fight and continue with his career. This is just one lost and he can bounce back with a new coach and maybe heading to a new new division as well at 140 lbs. But for a rematch with Tank, not going to happen.
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Tank will become huge favorite in the next match since the first match is a solid win for him.
I saw round 1 through 7 and i saw Tank doing well in the ring against garcia 23/4/2023 yesterday with the final result being KO, this is marked with win Davis vs. Ryan, will add a new record for Tank in the list of undefeated in the world of boxing, I'm sure what you say is true, it can be proven before they both bet in the ring.

Yesterday I saw more Tank fans than Ryan placing bets for the two of them, I'm sure in the future the two of them will be weighed again and meet again in the ring, This can be seen from yesterday's match, it seems that Ryan did not accept defeat, even though there were several punches that tired the referee to break them up in the ring.
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Has anyone watched the fight between Rolly Romero vs Ismael Barroso for the WBA Super Lightweight title? One of the most rigged and controversial bouts I've ever watched Rolando Romero's win was saved by the referee Tony Weeks. The referee is obviously helping him win the fight, if you watch the reply, Romero shoves Barroso to the canvas and rules it a knockdown. Even the commentators are not pleased with the stoppage in the ninth round.
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I just happen to talk with my cousin this day and he said Casimero's fight is bound to happen tomorrow. Not looking for some odds but will likely to root for my fellow countryman, hoping he win this and watch that rematch against Inoue.
The fight is over, Casimero win via unanimous decision. Casimero never fought Inoue, it's not a rematch if this fight will happen, it's the first fight for him against Inoue. With this win, maybe Inoue would consider to fight with Casimero regardless Inour will or lose against Fulton.
What? We always thought huge fight like this would happen on our timezone every Sunday 8am onwards tbh. I just saw the news and thanks for pointing it out and that cousin of mine well receive my slight beating saying to me it will be a rematch, I should have researched for that. Well, I hope he considers it now I saw an article just today that he has been interested but later on withdraw and maybe it's time now.
Yeah, I guess we Filipinos are victims of the timezone differential. The event was done in the Philippines, maybe that's why we are confused. This means if it's said 7 PM then it's also 7 PM to us.  Grin We are used to watching Sunday morning boxing because it's mostly done in the US with 12 hours difference.
I just finished watching the replay and thankfully I found one website that offers it, but I won't share it because I know it's illegal to distribute it. Sorry.

In round three Casimero really tried to put Nghitumbwa down but failed. In the next round, it was all Nghitumbwa who is dictating the fight. Round 6 is where it gets energized, Casimero landed a big left hook that sent Nghitumbwa down but he got up again and fought it through.
Sorry for the spoilers.  Grin
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if garcia ha no focus here, we will see it in his upcoming fight with tank davis. the odds are highly favouring davis here and maybe these bookies are seeing that davis can easily defeat garcia. the people surrounding him is also important because they will guide him what real preparations should be. davis is no easy opponent, so he should take note of that. otherwise, he can easily lose this match without a fight.
It's confirmed if Garcia will have a rematch against Tank in the upcoming fight? that's crazy because I don't expect anything change from Garcia in the next fight. New or old coach, will not make Garcia become a different boxer and he don't have a tough chin, he can't go brawl against Tank.

Tank will become huge favorite in the next match since the first match is a solid win for him.
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