Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 118. (Read 32168 times)

I'd say even if he win that one, that will be his last fight at 135 because his weight was already a problem to him in that division. In-fact, he already had two fights prior his fight versus Gervonta Davis and I believe that the sole reason why Ryan Garcia came back in lightweight was to settle their rivalry with each other that has been going on for years now.

But again, if not because of his defeat versus Tank, he will not be learning his lesson that his movement and defense is not that good enough in-front of the experts in the division. Actually, he already had the same scenario where Luke Campbell exposed him but he let his head to grow bigger because despite that fact, he won the fight.

I follow that last statement, he still young and his body is building naturally. It's tough to fight when you are not in your
comfortable position. I'm not saying that it's the reason why he loses the fight against Davis, but at some point it affects him.

Let see what's the plan for him and how he will comeback, it's just a good hype for his name, another cherry pick fight that will result
to hype his name back.

At least we get our money's worth, we see for the first time Ryan getting knock out in his career. Technically he wasn't able to continue to fight because of the body shot, but it was still a knockout in my opinion. And he taste the canvass too, second time in his career. So the hype was there because it was 2 very young and undefeated fighter in their prime years.


Perhaps he think that it won't be a big problem for him or he just wanted to fight Tank and shows the fans that he can beat the man. He also mentioned respect, specially if he wins. But I guess he already got that from just saying yes to this fight with a lot of stipulation that favors Davis in the beginning.

So far as someone who's just having my opinion being shared, that's what I think but then. This is still a long year to go and there can be other fights that can surpass the hype that this match has got.
We've got another match upcoming from the Paul brothers and that's as usual have a lot of audience since they've managed to capitalize the hype and fame that they've gained throughout these matches.

We can't really say that, in this last two fights prior to Tank, he has been fighting in the catch weight as well, as high as almost 140 lbs in the Tagoe fight. So it's obvious that he can't really go to 135 lbs or will have a hard time and at a disadvantage at this weight.

So maybe even if he won against Davis, he will have to get up in weight classes. Ryan is still young and so his body is growing naturally and with his height, definitely he can't stay any longer at 135 lbs and sooner or later will go to Junior-Welterweight.

If he didn't lose that last fight he wouldn't think to get to the upper weight class because he was feeling comfortable there with his speed but when he fought Davis, he realized that his past opponents were just a joke. now that he realized he needed to get up there, he should also train as much as he can to get back his honor and gain some momentum to bounce back again. He is such a charismatic boxer unlike anybody else and he can sell his fights easily, he just needs to give some more, especially in his defensive strategies.

I think Gervonta Davis also humble Ryan Garcia in their fight after the fight they saw them talking and maybe they are now friends who know, but that is what I have seen while looking it up it is a beautiful this in sports you will surely lose some and you will win some but definitely boxer or fighters will surely learn from that and sometimes learn from their mistakes, this goes to show how hard this kid if he keeps on getting that win he thinks is hard enough and not getting by to the one that will teach him that he is still in a level where he still needs to learn, I really wish that Ryan Garcia will still evolve into some kind of a monster someday because that ghost punch is now iconic,


Right now I think in the replay he knows what his mistakes are, and that is why he was so friendly with Gervonta Davis he accepts that he was defeated by Tank Davis now, than just putting salt to the situation he is in, I think Ryan Garcia still has a lot to do and I have always seen that it will go down like this if he doesn't accept his mistakes boxer tend to not accepting their fault because of their ego but Ryan Garcia is very different and for me, that goes to show that this kid can go a long way and his chapter is still starting, he is still 24 and there is still room to grow, Davis has only put him in his place and teach him how an older brother to his younger siblings,

Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia is one overly hyped fight. They hype it on social media and different platform by creating intrigues which is somehow successful.  Ryan Garcia made the fight very interesting but sadly he ate his words at the end getting an unexpected KO by body shot.  It is till very early to say the fight between Davis and Garcia as fight of the year, we should wait for until the last month of the last quarter because there may be other fight worth nominating as fight of the year than Davis-Garcia fight.


Davis just outsmarted Garcia by adding that rehydration clause.  The time I saw Ryan Garcia during the introduction, I feel that he isn't fully conditioned and he looks pale and exhausted. Well, the fight is done and I think Ryan Garcia had learned his lesson not to just agree to any clause just to have the fight.

Match of the year as far as the hype, but in the fight itself, it was a clear domination of Tank Davis, so I don't see it qualifying for fight of the year. There is a good match though still for us, and that is Haney vs Loma, this could be fight of the year of the match goes like back and forth between the two and it's hard to see who is winning.

Yeah, seems that Garcia has accepted that he can't be a lightweight anymore, time to move up to light welterweight at 140 lbs so that he won't rehydrate himself to death just like in this fight. And most likely it really affected his power because he can't rehydrate his body because there is a clause that he can only go as high as 10 lbs to recover before the actual fight. There are fighters that rehydrated as high as 15 lbs just to get their body to 100%.

in that fight the difference in strength was evident, Ryan Garcia's punches didn't have much power, although they caused some damage to Davis but they weren't enough to make Davis immobilized, and to make matters worse when Ryan Garcia threw a punch he was very close the opponent is very exposed, the angle at which he positioned himself to attack the opponent allowed the opponent to cause a lot of damage to him when he counterattacked, I don't understand why he himself having suffered a lot of damage in the first mistake I continue with the same strategy, instead of having realized that Davis' punches were stronger and that's why he should stick to defense and let Davis attack more to get more tired and his punches to be less heavy

Ryan Garcia just got into devis' wave and I'm still fighting on an equal footing with devis and with that it was worth him losing this fight, I don't see Ryan Garcia doing well in other fights if he's going to fight an opponent with characteristics like I devis this because I doubt very much that Ryan Garcia will want to change anything in his style or fight strategy, if he had fought more calmly and defended more, this fight could have taken another direction

We may say that it might or might not need some rematch since it's still a fresh match after all. This match is like the match of the year and everybody has talked about it.
And it wouldn't be surprising if the promoters will come by to them and ask for a rematch and that's why I think that it can possibly happen since both of them have shown no disappointment to most fans.

I guess that he'll do some of these options only if he don't wanna face him again for the meantime.

I don't think that Ryan could simply improved his fighting style, I mean he has been used to that since he is very young. So even if Reynoso or Goosen is his coach, we might see the same fighting style of Ryan over again. We all know what he lacks, movement, even Tank Davis criticized him for that but Ryan was not deterred. Now, he was really exposed by Tank with his no movement and just going up straight against him. Davis just time him up in the second round and then throw that lead left, so instant knock down. And on the last round 7, Tank saw the opening in the body as Garcia is not protecting it, or at least very open when he throws his favorite left hook. 140 lbs could fit his body, but with the likes of Josh Taylor, Ramirez, Prograis, Teo Lopez, Albert Puello and other elite Jr. Welterweight, it might be a difficult division for Ryan to test.

I very much agree on your statement mate, perhaps Ryan Garcia could be more lethal and dangerous in the upper division rather than forcing his own weight to fit in 135. But before all of that, he should try and improve his fighting style first because even if he can survive a few fights against the lower ranks, he will still find himself in the very same position where he can't really touch the champions because he lacks something. It's time for him to move-on and learn the lesson that was taught to him, and equip it to be a better boxer in his new journey.

I don't think Tank is trying to go on the next weight class, he said during the post-game interview that he will keep on defending the belt but there's no hint that he will try to dominate other belts.
Ryan Garcia on the other hand can do that and I think it's the best decision rather than sticking where Tank is because the same rehydration clause will be used against him and it will just be a disadvantage to him. But, if he chooses to move forward he won't see those kinds of agreements. He is big, his physical attributes are way farther than Davis (reach and height) that is why they do that, the only solution is to find boxers in the same league as him.
There's no update yet about what he will do next, he should take the rest first but after that, he should decide whether it's time to give up pursuing Davis and climb the ladder.

There is no rematch clause so he will not pursue it, so does his team. And I doubt Tank Davis would easily accept that. For Ryan Garcia, I want to see him on a higher weight, his body is built something greater and he don't have to punish himself by weighing down just so he could fight champions like Davis. There is always a choice to let it go and try another champion on a higher weight.
We just saw how far their difference is and Davis mostly relied on his speed to take advantage of Garcia's slow movement and relying on his left only.
Jr. Welterweight seems to be a good choice and if he is still having a hard time catching weight try the higher one.

They may consider it if the fight ended with UD but sadly no. A rematch that is possible I think will be on the 140 if Ryan performs well on the 140 and then beat tough men above him including Taylor. And then Tank also has nowhere else to go and he decides to move to 140 as well. WBO will likely give Tank a fast lane to a belt fight. That will really bring back the buzz of the first fight and the trashtalk will be worse.

I agree with you - there's no need for a rematch because it was very clear how Tank Davis dominated the fight. Before the fight, Tank Davis was already listed as the heavy favorite, so a rematch doesn't make sense since people won't be interested in watching it. A rematch would only be interesting if Davis had been the one who lost the fight.

Time for us to move on as I'm sure Ryan Garcia has already move one since he accepted his defeat.

I don't think it's need a rematch, Tank clearly beat Ryan Garcia by knocked down Garcia down for 2 times. Even Garcia will have a couple fight with other boxers, it's just a way to convince everyone if he's still able to fight, but I believe no big change will happen when he fight with Tank.

Garcia need to accept the reality if he's not able to fight in lightweight anymore, he can't move to light welterweight because Tank will move up too. So the better option for Garcia is back to super featherweight as Shakur have moved to lightweight.

I think he did early, but Tank definitely fight small here, as you can see he is already the smaller fighter between the two, but he ducks more often that's why Ryan can't execute his game play if he has. And he lost composure with Tank remain on top and still calm as he has said in post interview.

So too much chasing for Ryan and so he was caught. Really very good plan by Team Davis here and Tank just followed it and never allow Ryan to win in this chess match and it was check mate already from round 2 and up.

As Mike Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they are punch in the face. And that's what exactly happen here, when Garcia was hit and went down in the second round, it seems that all strategy went out of the window for him. He chooses to fight the style of Tank Davis and it's just a matter of time before Tank can read Garcia, and that's what happen in the next knockdown and Garcia stay on his knees as he can't take the pain of that body shot. His trainer, Goosen said befor the fight that they have devise a strategy but it seems it was not followed by Ryan in my opinion because of his knock down in the 2nd round.