Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 169. (Read 31941 times)

Yes mate, doesn't make sense to beat or even parlay at ML at it's not worth it, just better wait for the result of it, hehehe.

As for Donaire, make sense for him to comeback, although he didn't retire officially, but Inoue is no longer in the bantamweight so him and maybe Butler can fight it out for the belt or maybe Jason Moloney or Emmanuel Rodriguez.

So still good fight for Donaire in this weight class and he has a good chance as well to become another belt holder.

Some of the remaining fight do in the calendar for this year is similar to that. But next year, January there are good line up already for boxing.

There's a chance that he will become a champion again as only Inoue can beat him. I like to see him to become a champion again so he will be fully fulfilled when they think of retiring. Also, Butler can still try to be a challenger again since no more Inoue, which means the competition is very tight.

Yes I do agree with @YuginKadoya - this boxers doesn't want to admit that they are hurt but you can see at the face and reaction of Butler when he is hit by Naoya, he circle and then trying to avoid the punches and then grimace in pain from body and head punch by Inoue.

And obviously, if Inoue goes up, then there will be a vacuum left in the 118 lbs and if Nonito still want to fight and be a world champion again then he can still go for the last time to become a champion until he retires.

Although before Nonito says he will go down to 115 lbs and probably now that we seen who won between Estrada and Chocolatito, he might go for Juan Estrada, but let's see.

I think Nonito Donaire now got his eyes targeted on a major world title match and this is the ARTICLE well, despite his major knockout lost to the monster Naoya Inoue that is not given him any doubt to himself, and I think that is the good quality of most Filipino's it is hard for them to learn how to give up, and right now Nonito Donaire in the article said that he is targeting Roman Gonzalez and Juan Franciso Estrada,


Poor guy, it goes to show that the level of Naoya Inoue is really different now, it is just sad that the 1st match of Nonito Donaire VS Naoya Inoue was a close one, but on an interview with Nonito Donaire even though he did not say what did happen with their rematch it was really bleak that Naoya Inoue is not a different boxer from their last fight, Inoue now overtakes Donaire tremendously that Donaire now is taking a step backward of the division, because he knows how the Monster Naoya Inoue power and speed can be devastating, and even though Paul Butler won't admit it, his reaction to all the punches he receives to Naoya Inoue is truly different from other boxers he faced,

Next event it is.
I may have tried just guessing what round it will end on Inoue's side because the rewards were too small enough to put the risk at just betting for him to win.

Tomorrow morning for GMT+8 there will be a boxing fight.
Dec. 16, 2022 Quebec, Canada 7 p.m. ET

Makhmudov, Arslanbek vs Wallisch, Michael
Butler, Steven vs Conley, Joshua
Spencer, Mary vs Hermans, Femke

3 heavy favorites, even a 3-way parlay is not profitable enough. 

Probably that was his plan in the beginning, but when he taste the power of Inoue, all plan was throw out of the window and so he goes on the survival moved. And then he just run around trying to avoid that power punches. But the accumulation throughout the first 10 rounds might be enough for Butler because once he goes down in round 11th it was clearly over.

So props for Donaire for going out toe to toe with Inoue but the gamble didn't pay off as he was knock out in just 2 rounds.

These words from boxers on what they'll do are just actually words from them giving answers to what has been asked to them.

But when in actuality, it's going to be not what they are able to say. It's a different world when they're inside the ring and the situation varies from the stance of his and his opponent and that's why those are just like their plans.

And the plans that they've made and said, don't go accordingly.

I remember Butler saying that he will do what Donaire did on the first match against Inoue, Butler stated that he won't show respect to Inoue because lots of boxers whom Inoue beats easily are those who give Inoue lots of respect.  So Butler stated that he wouldn't give respect to the power of Inoue when facing him.  But it turns out that Butler not only respects the power punching of Inoue but rather left him unable to do what he wanted because he was terrified by the power of Inoue.



As I stated, Butler was terrified of the punching power of Inoue.  Inoue even teases Butler during the fight, inviting Butler to engaged but Butler just did nothing.

Well, whenever a boxer wants to fight, it is something that we are passionate about, what happens is that there are some boxers who seek to have more fame and more recognition, this is something that is sometimes not achieved, be it for the reason that the boxer does not he wants and looks for other opponents who can raise the ranks and who can give him more fame, but on the other hand, many look for the best, such as the case of Crawford, the case of Canelo (something that caught my attention what he threw at Messi I really saw it badly there, that even Mike Tyson threatened him) So sometimes boxers want to have a lot of fame and they can't get it because of their attitudes, that's something that can be recognized.


I cannot deny that I did not expect something like this, in fact I did have faith in Butler, but not so much, there came a time during the fight where I saw him so badly that I had no ideas that I said, they knocked him out, the truth is Inoue He is a very strong boxer who fully trusts his technique and who can make a difference with anyone who stands in front of him, for me it is something that very few boxers have, however I hope that for his next encounters it will not complicate it so much. Inoue came to give a series of combinations that violated the class and elegance with which he fights, he did not lose his temper and remained calm, I think that speaks very well of a boxer.


I would like to highlight the praise that Butler gave Inoue:

Paul Butler Offers No Excuses, Gives High Praise To Naoya Inoue




Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/paul-butler-offers-no-excuses-gives-high-praise-naoya-inoue--171181

What Inoue awakens in the other boxers is impressive, for me he is one of the best that we have had the privilege of seeing, I think that if he continues with that streak when he decides to move to a new category, he can do the same job, I really pay my respects to the Japanese, does anyone know if he already has another opponent to fight?

I haven't heard the news that Nonito Donaire will compete for the WBC belt. But in any case that Inoue vacated all the belt, obviously it will be open and Nonito once held that belt and probably he is still the number 1 contender not just for WBC or even for the other belts that Inoue held before.

So does make sense if the governing body will allow Nonito to fight for the belt right away and I can't remember if Nonito held either any belts, how many times he become a bantamweight champion and he could be the oldest.

That will be surprising if that indeed happen in about two or three years from now, but anyway, that is not really likely to happen given that the competition will be intense and yes, political issues between promoters will also impede for the younger generation to become the new undisputed champion.


Is that so? I thought he will climb the lower weight class which is super-fly because I think that's what he said, but it really makes sense that he will remain in bantamweight given that Inoue won't be in the picture anymore.

Yes, a specific fight needs specific thread so that it won't be messy, it's understandable that we're talking here in this thread about all sorts of fights because as the name suggests: Boxing Speculations, Odds and Predicitions.

But most odds and predictions in a particular fight falls under that specific thread and what we're talking here is just pure speculations because if the fight will be announced, then, it's safe to assume that we can see that thread in gambling discussion.

That might be good for Donaire if he's not planning to retire yet, he can chased for that vacant belt it will be nice to see him showing that he can still perform and if he still fits for another belt to hold. The Pinoy flash unable to bounce back with Inoue as we see the fighting difference between the two, no excuses but Inoue is for real, he was a monster with a huge skills and knowledge in these sport.

Well, I have missed the match aswell and am watching only on replays, but still, a great fight to watch we can see that Sandor Martin has some great movement and that Knockout from Martin I think it was just a graze and Lopez just slipped but it was counted as a knockdown, and at 1st I really thought that Martin was going to win against Lopez, but Teofimo Lopez just rallies some points at the last of the rounds so it was a great fight to watch,

but yeah Teofimo Lopez will surely get a hardtime with Regis Prograis but still I am excited because now this is not a picked fight by Teofimo Lopez this is the real deal fight for me and I am surely excited about taking a glimpse is looking forward to that fight,


You can try to bet on the next event, but yeah I thought the fight will be morning aswell yeah it was on a different timeline the fight was at 02:30 AM ET in Japan, and it will be 3:30 PM here in the Philippines, so I have missed it, and it was truly a remarkable match I feel so back for Paul Butler, he doesn't really know what hit him or why does Naoya Inoue had such great skill, speed, and strength in just small body that he had, well Inoue just got a remarkable record indeed, but for me, he still got a long way surpassing Pacquiao, he needs to still proved that he can make it, and yeah because Butler doesn't want to show his face the whole fight it was covered by his gloves, Naoya Inoue is showboating his way for Paul Butler in giving away his face for him to hit,

If there is someone who are going to open a specific thread for a specific fight then we can discussed everything under the sun there.

But if there is no specific thread maybe the fight is not that huge for boxing fans, then it falls on this thread simply as that. If could be disorganized as you have described it, but there are boxing fans that knows when to discussed that fight that is buried on this thread or just continue with the latest fight not having a specific thread.

So I disagree with your thoughts, and if you have look at this thread and back read, your point has been discussed as well. So we don't need to discussed it again, just saying. If you want specific fights to discussed then you can open a thread about it, simply as that.

That is a fact. It will be difficult to match Inoue's accomplishments at bantamweight. Alongside the political divisions of boxing, I will be stunned, assuming an undisputed top dog will surface in two years.

I learned from the news that Nonito Donaire will compete for the WBC belt. I still do not know who will be competing for the remaining Inoue belts. Given that he fought Inoue for eleven rounds, Butler may be able to challenge for the vacant WBO title.

Some update regarding our prospect in 147 lbs, Jaron "Boots" Ennis. He will be fighting Karen Chukhadzhian on January 7th, at the Capital One Arena in Washington D.C.

https://www.boxingscene.com/jaron-ennis-on-karen-chukhadzhian-showdown-i-really-wanted-stanionis-fight--171153

Not sure if this is the news that we wanted to hear because initially it is said that he will fight Eimantas Stanionis, the WBA champion. Errol Spence is the WBA super champion. Anyhow still a good test for Ennis and maybe after this one, he will have his chance against Stanionis or even Errol Spence.

Soon Rico Verhoeven will kickbox again to defend his world title. I'm not exactly sure who the challenger will be. But Alistair OVereem seems to be at the end of the story because he apparently used banned substances in his match against Badr Hari, which he of course denied. He will probably get a suspension from the union and can forget about the title fight. I would like to see Jamal Ben Saddik in the ring, in my opinion the only one who has a real chance of beating Verhoeven.

And anyhow, it will be difficult for the future boxers to break the record he set and I think it will take a couple of years from now before it will be broken because there will be another set of bad boys in bantamweight after this generation and that makes it harder to follow Inoue's footstep.


Yes, I looked it up. Teo and Floyd do have the same height, but the latter got the reach compared to Teo which makes him it easier to throw a counter while Teo got to be closer before he can throw his counter. Teofimo Lopez's career at superlight will become much harder in the upcoming years because he is about to face the champions next. Either Taylor or Prograis.

Only at bantamweight is Inoue undisputed. He is currently a champion in three divisions. When he moves up to super bantamweight, he is excited to become a champion in four divisions. Anyhow, the legacy exists already.


The junior welterweight division is where Teo is competing. Teo is a big man, probably about Mayweather's height or even a little taller. Teo can compete with the best in his new division if he grows from his mistakes and improves. If he can withstand the powerful blows of Prograis, Teo has what it takes and the ability to beat Prograis or Ramirez.