Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 169. (Read 32585 times)

That is why I was really doubtful about posting this, it was not updated, and realized that Naoya Inoue is now the Undisputed Unified Bantamweight Champion I think many boxers will struggle in replicating what Inoue has achieved but pretty much it is possible, my thoughts on support from the government it should be but I guess Manny Pacquiao was not really funded by the government back then but he surely kicks ass back then, but surely the level of competition is surely higher now and if the government wants to have a belt in the boxing industry they should support newly bloomed boxers that are likely risking their lives in giving the country honor and giving food to their family, Well I have seen the updated Bantamweight Title belt champion




It seems he wants to conquer the world of boxing just like Manny Pacquiao did but this time in a more perfect fashion without any losses, well I have been a fan of Naoya Inoue because of this feat but for me, if the chance of a fight between Naoya Inoue and John Riel Casimero have come to terms I will surely support Casimero over him, In support for my fellow Filipino,
 

That Figures I thought that belt was not the one that was stripped to him but after seeing that Naoya Inoue has already Unified all the Belts because of Paul Butler well I really don't want to blame it on Butler because Naoya Inoue is a literal Monster judging from their fight taunting and humiliating Paul Butler that is one ass move to pull,

For me It is all John Riel Casimero's fault he let himself be stripped of the belt by doing things unnecessarily and the price to pay for giving an opportunity for Naoya Inoue to get his belt, it starts from that fault for the belt to be taken by Butler and to be taken by Inoue, but for me I still want Casimero to redeem himself from what have happen,

No doubt as well for Inoue, that man will continue to evolve as long as he will fight tough boxers and is destined to make a name in the boxing industry.

For Donaire, I've read that his fight against Jason Moloney is still pre-approved, right? I hope it will be official once Inoue climbs the next weight class. That will be a good exposure for the Filipino Flash and probably we will have another Filipino boxing champion again.

Despite on the lack of support, we still had champions before, so I guess that's not really a big hindrance. It's just that their time is over and IMO, their lose are very convincing, so there's no cheating whatsoever. If they want to be champion again, they need to come back strong next year, especially for Magsayo who is still young and has all the skills to improve to hold a belt again.

Thank you for the update bro.
I was expecting that to happen but I didn't know the association will be that fast to investigate and conclude the winner of that fight.
It was too obvious, we all know who won that game.
Now, this will give a push for Casimero for his next battle. Will it be Inoue? If he will stay and try to defend his title then there's a chance they will meet.
Or does Casimero need to fight one more boxer to rank up and reach him?

Yeah, you are right, too much work for them because they need to pay those who bet on Casimero to win via TKO in round 2, or range 1-3. I hope they will be fair to the gamblers and pay what is due to them. Anyway, finally congratulations to Casimero for having a successful comeback in a new division.

I read that news too, and I'm happy with that admission as that tells what really happened in the fight. It doesn't matter if it took long before that admission, because that help Casimero to improve his ranking in the division that he is currently on now. So, let's expect that Casimero will have a better challenger next time.

Nice to see this, justice for Casimero since he's deserve to win at that matches.

IMO when the match is ended for no contest, the casino already return the initial bet for every gamblers. I don't think the casino will look at the previous bet and then calculate the winnings, then reward it to the gamblers, too much work for them.

However casino isn't should be blamed since they're also don't know if this happen.

I didn't bet on the KO because as far as I can remember the odds are low, but maybe there are some who bet for the exact round or even the round range and the odds increased with that.

Not sure what body sanction this fight but it seems that it was not one of those 4 organizations and probably it was just sanctioned by the Korean board so they overturn it without any fussed as compare to Manny wherein, they just ordered a rematch because of the mistakes in scoring of the judges.

That's a good question. How about those bets for Casimero to KO Akaho? Will they receive the rewards or what will happen to the bet? Might be from the casino or whatever might be the call with these changes that have been rewarded for Casimero. I did check the last time I remember this kind of event but it was a mistake since the fight I remember is with Pacquiao and Bradley but the decision didn't change but instead they made a rematch and Pacquiao win the fight.

what we have seen on the surface is that casimero has a lot of things to say. but if you do watch his vlogs, he seems to be a good person. well, most of us don't know him personally. he maybe seen as trash talker to sell his fight but deep inside he is a different person. anyway, since the decision with akaho's fight is overturned as a KO win in favour of casimero, there may be good fights now they are eyeing for casimero. let's see.
absolutely, he has a long way to go to achieve what pacquiao's achieved on this sports.

The one thing i dont like on Casimero is that he's not really that humble like Pacquiao, if we do make out some comparison in between behaviors then you could really point out their main differences and pretty

sure that lots of people had spotted this one out too.When it comes to comparing their early prime days where Pacquiao and Casimero do able to attain then you could also see the differences.

Im not really that easy to judge but basing up on his behavior or even on how he fights which i dont really believe that he could really go with that 8 division target
which is really that impossible imho.

And it just shows that it really takes a lot of sacrifice to become the next Manny Pacquiao and obviously Casimero doesn't have that in his mind.

Nevertheless it's good to hear that the decision what overturn in favor of him against Akaho, and we all know that it is the right decision because we have seen the Akaho wasn't hit that hard in behind the head, Casimero just grazed him but then he acted strange and even collapsing in the canvass because he doesn't want anything to do with Casimero when he felt his power.

Lots of criticisms on where Casimero do got because of that belt strip due to carelessness and as i have checked out on the link given then it is really that no PH boxer is currently holding a belt.

Lots had been talking that it might be Casimero the one who would be following MP track or history on getting multiple belts on different divisions but it seems that it is really that too far off from the
reality. Its better that Casimero should really act and not just keep on talking and do always mentioning Inoue, if we do see that bantamweight area then it do all owns by Inoue..

Speaking of Casimero, the decision was turn over no contest to knockout by the KBM (Korea Boxing Member's Commission).

Source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/sports/othersports/855186/casimero-vs-akaho-result-overturned-to-knockout/story/

Not sure though how will this affect those who bet on Casimero winning by knockout, will casino's also turn over their decision and give the winnings to the bettors? I'm asking this because this is the first time that I see this happening for a a long time.

I think there is one that I read that become a champion but yeah, it's not a major belt so this is not considered per se as champion for the Philippines.

And I guess we can't really rely on the numbers for now, there could be years wherein the Philippines is really enjoying like when Manny is hovering the flags for the Philippines as there are many who follow on his footsteps.

But when he retired, boxing seems to be looking for a new champion that will carry the flag again for the country.

The Philippines has zero world champions at the moment since Nonito Donaire, Johnreil Casimero, Rene Mark Cuarto and Mark Magsayo lost their belts this year. But there are title fights coming up for Filipinos and hopefully, upsets happen. I agree with Oasisman's statement earlier saying the lack of support is a huge factor. Many prospects are forced to travel to opponents' backyards and lost to questionable hometown decisions.

Champinon.info is new to me. And looking at their list, the Philippines has a world champion, Dave Apolinario. Unfortunately, the IBO belt is not a major belt. Many times the IBO has popular champions like GGG and Usyk because they just award their belts in order to promote their organization. 

It was supposed to be Casimero who still hold a belt, unfortunately, because of his carelessness, he lose his belt via disqualification. Last time I remember, Nietes and Magsayo both losses their belt before Casimero losses his, so for now, we have no boxer that is currently a champion. No boxer in the PH that has an achievement close to Pacman, sorry to say that, but that's the reality.

Yes, in fact, this is true and the Philippines does not have a representative of their country in the rank of the holder of the boxing champion belt here you can see the current list of current world champions as of December 2022 https://champinon.info/

That is encouraging news for the boxing fans in Philippines. On social media, Casimero supporters frequently criticize Inoue. His position for any subsequent Inoue match would be solidified by the victory at their new division.

The new objective of Donaire is to drop weight again in order to become a world champion in all five divisions. At this time in his aging career, it sounds like a very risky move. Instead, Donaire would seize this opportunity to compete against Moloney for the vacant title. I genuinely figure Donaire will beat Moloney. When Donaire strikes the Australian with his powerful punches, it is unlikely that he will survive.

Arum will weight the chances and if he sees that there is more money to be earned once Inoue will move to this new division, we will see him
negotiating with the other camps.

It will be a big test for Inoue, but with his skills adjustment can be done and the chance of dethroning Fulton is possible
he just need to be more comfortable in this new weight.

Though the final say will still depend on how Arum sees the opportunities in making more money out from Inoue.