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December 12, 2022, 03:13:35 PM
And with this Teo Lopez win, he will be the 2nd mandatory fighter and will probably waiting for the winner of Prograis vs Ramirez. This is a new territory for Lopez and there is no going back and it will be harder for him moving forward. Yes, he won but it seems that he was exposed by Martin as well. But for sure he will be respected if he can beat any of the belt champion right now. But as per Martin, Lopez might find it difficult against Prograis because Regis is a harder puncher. But we will see, let's wait for the result of Prograis vs Ramirez first or even Taylor vs Catterall rematch in this division.
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December 12, 2022, 10:08:01 AM
Now Moving forward and this fight is about to happen on December 13,  and I was really anticipating it, on how great Naoya Inoue can become upon destroying Nonito Donaire again, so here is the event

Inoue vs. Butler
There's a thread about this match, it was created since August [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

The latest discussion is about the odds where it's not worth it to bet winning method option because Inoue will obviously win via KO. So it's better if we bet on the winner & round range option, for me it's either Inoue & 1-3 or Inoue & 4-6. But since the odds for Inoue & 1-3 is small, I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6.


But I think this is still valid for people that don't know that there is a thread, but maybe I will provide a link to the thread for that fight but the full event is nowhere to be found on that thread, like the fight of Naoya Inoue's brother Takuma Inoue VS Jake Bornea, where the opponent of Naoya Inoue's brother is a Filipino, for me that will be a great fight because Jake Bornea may surprise Takuma, but yes Takuma Inoue like his brother should not be underestimated, another one is the match for the OPBF Featherweight Title belt, and that will be Satoshi Shimizu VS Landy Cris Leon, and for this fight, I am having my doubts on Landy Cris Leon, if he's able to withstand against Shimizu, and if that box record correct, he got 14 wins 21 losses and 5 draws?
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December 12, 2022, 01:38:09 AM
Now Moving forward and this fight is about to happen on December 13,  and I was really anticipating it, on how great Naoya Inoue can become upon destroying Nonito Donaire again, so here is the event

Inoue vs. Butler
There's a thread about this match, it was created since August [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

The latest discussion is about the odds where it's not worth it to bet winning method option because Inoue will obviously win via KO. So it's better if we bet on the winner & round range option, for me it's either Inoue & 1-3 or Inoue & 4-6. But since the odds for Inoue & 1-3 is small, I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6.


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December 12, 2022, 12:46:54 AM
Now Moving forward and this fight is about to happen on December 13,  and I was really anticipating it, on how great Naoya Inoue can become upon destroying Nonito Donaire again, so here is the event

Inoue vs. Butler

Tuesday 12.13.2022 at 02:30 AM ET
Ownership: Akihiko Honda
Venue: Ariake Arena
Location: Tokyo, Japan



MAIN EVENT

Undisputed Bantamweight Title
Naoya Inoue VS Paul Butler

CO-MAIN EVENT

WBO Asia Pacific Super Lightweight Title
Andy Hiraoka VS Min Ho Jung

MAIN CARD

OPBF Super Bantamweight Title
Yoshiki Takei VS Bruno Tarimo

Peter McGrail VS Hironori Miyake
Takuma Inoue VS Jake Bornea

OPBF Featherweight Title
Satoshi Shimizu VS Landy Cris Leon

All information was from TAPOLOGY

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December 11, 2022, 04:57:01 PM

Not a robbery and Martin is just doing what he thinks is good, he doesn't want that engagement knowing that Lopez can really take him down
if he will give him that chance.

Martin had a good start but fell short on aggressiveness.  The judge saw Teofimo Lopez is more eager to win the fight by being aggressive the whole fight. 

He just moves according to how he see that he has some chance of winning, but the judges give the win to Lopez
as he converts more and he's really aggressive.

Yeah Teofimo is way more aggressive and launched more volume of punches.  Martin strategy is to counter Teofimo punches  but everytime they clash, Teofimo seems to negate those counters in the later rounds giving him more scoring punches than Martin

Nothing to say, a win is still a win and we will wait for Lopez next schedules.

It was close but it is obvious that Lopez really won that fight.
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December 11, 2022, 04:02:28 PM
Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.
The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

Yeah, it seems that Lopez is too eager in the early rounds and that's why Martin scored a flash knockdown. Lopez though complain that he is frustrated because Martin chooses to run in this fight and that he keeps on chasing him.

Nevertheless it was a split decision only win for Lopez, and not majority. But still a win is a win for him.

No robbery though, it's that Martin didn't do enough to win on the other 2 judges.

Not a robbery and Martin is just doing what he thinks is good, he doesn't want that engagement knowing that Lopez can really take him down
if he will give him that chance.

He just moves according to how he see that he has some chance of winning, but the judges give the win to Lopez
as he converts more and he's really aggressive.

Nothing to say, a win is still a win and we will wait for Lopez next schedules.
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December 11, 2022, 03:41:01 PM
There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.

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The undefeated WBA/WBC/IBF welterweight champion was the victim in a two-vehicle accident Saturday evening at an undisclosed location in the greater Dallas area. Spence’s SUV was hit head-on by an underage and unlicensed driver who ran a red light.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.

Not the 2nd time, this is his 3rd car crash.

I don't know what's with Errol Spence Jr. but it seems to me that he is a magnet to streets when it comes to accidents and for that, he should ought to have a personal driver to drive him whenever he wanted to go or to run for his errands. He shouldn't be driving around solo because his talents will go to waste if his legs or arm will be harmed badly. Good thing that he is already safe, but those legs tho, he's saying that it hurts badly.

Thanks for the correction, yeah, same question as well, he is like a magnet for any vehicular accident waiting to happen hehehe.

Yeah, that legs is very important to a boxer too, that's how they dance, the move with their legs. Anyone see Manny Pacquiao's massive lower leg? that's where he got his power. So if a boxer doesn't have good legs most likely he can't hold himself and every time someone touches them in the chin they can easily go down.

Hopefully Spence case is different and he can recover his legs from this accident.
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December 11, 2022, 02:15:03 PM
There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.

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The undefeated WBA/WBC/IBF welterweight champion was the victim in a two-vehicle accident Saturday evening at an undisclosed location in the greater Dallas area. Spence’s SUV was hit head-on by an underage and unlicensed driver who ran a red light.  

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.

Not the 2nd time, this is his 3rd car crash.

I don't know what's with Errol Spence Jr. but it seems to me that he is a magnet to streets when it comes to accidents and for that, he should ought to have a personal driver to drive him whenever he wanted to go or to run for his errands. He shouldn't be driving around solo because his talents will go to waste if his legs or arm will be harmed badly. Good thing that he is already safe, but those legs tho, he's saying that it hurts badly.
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December 11, 2022, 01:00:11 PM
Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.

I guess you're right about that. I was just wondering that he already got a fight with just a few months rest and he's already defending his WBO International belt that he won in competition against Pedro Campa. Anyway, I figured out that he isn't that really ready to face the champions Grin he still need another fight to get him ready against Prograis or Taylor but still a good win, he almost messed it up when he was knocked down in round 2.
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December 11, 2022, 07:34:53 AM
Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.
The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

I agree that Lopez wanted to fight from the distance because he is a tough dude and that is the mistake that Mickey did make when he lost to Martin. He thought that he can just used his power against Martin, but it was the other way around as Martin is solid.

Yes, the punch output of Lopez is enough for him to win in the cards of the judges. And he is the A-side in this fight, when the fight is close, maybe the judges gave it to Lopez that's why the two judges have him winning with a good lead.

Well, he's back and for sure promoters will bring his name on the list, another good chance for him to make more money fight, Lopez strategy gives him that credit to win, those numbers of converted punches and like what you have said judges gives him the credit and with that decision the announcer state his name as the winner on this fight.

Congrats to all who won their bet whatever types of betting they prefer in this fight, enjoy the weekends parties!
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December 11, 2022, 07:24:29 AM
Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.
The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

I agree that Lopez wanted to fight from the distance because he is a tough dude and that is the mistake that Mickey did make when he lost to Martin. He thought that he can just used his power against Martin, but it was the other way around as Martin is solid.

Yes, the punch output of Lopez is enough for him to win in the cards of the judges. And he is the A-side in this fight, when the fight is close, maybe the judges gave it to Lopez that's why the two judges have him winning with a good lead.
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December 11, 2022, 05:17:21 AM
Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.
The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

Yeah, it seems that Lopez is too eager in the early rounds and that's why Martin scored a flash knockdown. Lopez though complain that he is frustrated because Martin chooses to run in this fight and that he keeps on chasing him.

Nevertheless it was a split decision only win for Lopez, and not majority. But still a win is a win for him.

No robbery though, it's that Martin didn't do enough to win on the other 2 judges.
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December 11, 2022, 05:10:38 AM
Wow! nobody is talking about the Pacquiao vs. Yoo fight but whatever it is just an exhibition match anyway, but what I am after was the Sean Garcia fight, that is what I want to see,

Manny Pacquiao VS DK Yoo - Manny Pacquiao Won via unanimous decision

Well, I was really not surprised that Manny Pacquaio won this, I already know that DK Yoo doesn't have any experience in a real boxing fight, even though he has experience in street brawl kung-fu style there is a huge difference between boxing and you are limited in just using your fist, for MMA VS Boxing in boxing ruled, match there will be a huge advantage for a boxer when they fight in a boxing rule format fight well as expected all rounds go to Manny Pacquiao and we all know that DK Yoo is gassing out and just prolonging the time while Manny Pacquiao is having a great time here for him this is easy money,

Sean Garcia VS Seung Ho Yang Seung Ho Yang  Won via majority decision

You heard it right as you can see Garcia's opponent thought this was MMA clinching and dragging him well that momentum of Garcia was all lost to the drain because of it, surely Seung Ho Yang does have a movement I have seen that Sean Garcia was doing great in the opening rounds, but that momentum was lost, well you can hear the commentators are mostly biased towards Sean Garcia but the Judges scored a biased majority win over to Seung Ho Yang, is it a robbery? I haven't seen the full fight yet, and I didn't watch the live stream,
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December 11, 2022, 04:09:39 AM
Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.
The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.
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December 10, 2022, 11:40:44 PM
There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.

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The undefeated WBA/WBC/IBF welterweight champion was the victim in a two-vehicle accident Saturday evening at an undisclosed location in the greater Dallas area. Spence’s SUV was hit head-on by an underage and unlicensed driver who ran a red light. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.
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December 10, 2022, 11:21:29 PM
Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.
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December 10, 2022, 06:16:57 PM

Maybe it's the ring rust and of course, his mindset isn't 100% due to the war. Also, Vassily Lomachenko is already in his mid-30s, his IQ is still there but his physical abilities is starting to decline and he isn't the guy that has 1 punch KO that scares opponents. Maybe Loma is saving some of his techniques so Haney cannot figure it out. Haney won't duck Loma because it is the WBO mandatory unless he is moving up in weight which might be an option since he did struggle in weight during his rematch with Kambosos. 

Well, I really think Vasiliy Lomachenko is preparing something and not really showing what he can truly do inside the ring, for now, I want to think that before he can face Devin Haney first, maybe he is keeping his trump card intact, but it could also be ring rust, but for further analysis as for now I really don't want to think it that way, yes Lomachenko doesn't have the 1 punch KO his opponent but the speed and volume can be his lethal weapon, but in his recent fight I really don't see the quickness or is he suppressing it but for me, he can surely still show more than speed on his last fight,


That might be the case but I don't really think that there is a point for him to hide his strength or power right now as he is looking for more future fights. Hiding his power will give him less opportunities because people won't hype him that much because they will think that Loma's already an old news and there's nothing to expect from him anymore.

It will be much better for him to show what he is made of really because that will send a message and people will start calling a fight with the heavy names in the same division as Loma's like Haney or Tank or the nearest belt contender to replace them. Just maybe though, maybe he is not the Loma we've known now.

Well, I am just thinking out of the box here like I said he is not really suppressing his strength but just not showing his trump card, and until he can fight Devin Haney or some fighter that needs to be using it he will likely be using it aswell, well for me Devin Haney was his real target and yeah I want to think that he is hiding his trump card for the time being, but it could also be ring rust, and right now maybe it is catching up to him and yeah he is really feeling it right now,



Right now the fight with Manny Pacquiao is nearing to start, and we all know what may happen to DK Yoo after this fight I really don't think Manny Pacquiao could lose this either, and Ryan Garcia's brother is also fighting in this event Sean "Sugar Rush" Garcia is fighting 1st, he also got a picture of him with Manny Pacquiao and thankful that he is on the same card as the Legend, for me I think this is interesting but I don't really want to compare him to his brother but Sean Garcia might become a great fighter aswell,

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December 10, 2022, 04:10:21 PM
Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

Yes, probably another tune up fight for Teo Lopez because he has two successive fights this year with just short rest in between. But nevertheless, he might be looking at an easy opponent but still he should take it lightly as Martin is a rough opponent but we will see how Lopez will respond to this tough opponent of his.

I think he need more fight in 140 lbs early next year and maybe after he won that fight he will be given the chance to fight one of the champions, like Prograis or even Josh Taylor (if Josh chooses to stay at 140 lbs).
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December 10, 2022, 03:24:46 PM
Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.
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December 10, 2022, 01:50:26 PM
Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.
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