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November 30, 2022, 08:17:10 AM

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

Vasyl Lomachenko's last fight was with Jamaine Ortiz and I think Ortiz did a great job with their fight but still, Lomachenko has become dominant in their fight when Ortiz sends a punch to Lomachenko's guard he surely counters it with his own combination, Vasyl Lomachenko has given Ortiz the pressure on that fight, now regarding what is next to Vasyl Lomachenko I really think like you have said he can surely observe his opponent movement and can adjust his style on who is his opponent,



I also agree, there are many fans of Loma who was obviously shaken with his performance because maybe the bar has been set very high. Maybe Ortiz is huge for him or Loma is getting old already (as per his crtics).

But he all know how Loma is very skillful, maybe he just had a ring rust or his mind is still with his beloved Ukraine that's why his performance is kinda disappointed.

However, if he is going to fight Haney for all the belts, then that is a extra motivation for him because that's what he really wanted until he lost to Teofimo Lopez.

Well given another opportunity that these two would fight chance that Jamaine Ortiz will be prepared and knows what his going to do with Lomachenko I can say he surely showed a great performance against Lomachenko and given time and preparation I think he can win their fight at some point, but knowing Lomachenko skill he can also be prepared for Ortiz, but there will be a chance that Ortiz can have his way if they fight again,



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November 30, 2022, 04:37:14 AM
Moving on, what's our next big fight?
I don't really know what's the criteria of big fight do you want, if you're only looking for popular boxers then it's a lot but the odds is really small and doesn't worth to bet since it's less than 1.15x like Tyson Fury, Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue.

But if you're looking for better odds you can check a fight between Chocolatito vs Estrada, Charlo vs Tszyu and Warrington vs Luiz Lopez. There's so many fights from popular boxers will happen in this month.

Let's not forget the John Riel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho fight this Saturday @ 4AM ET at Incheon, South Korea

5 days left but their odds is not yet listed on my betting platform, maybe the bookies will list this bout in like 48 hours before their fight begins. This is interesting to see because it is somehow personal for Casimero because he need to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Akaho and this fight will determine Casimero's future in the industry. Failure to win will cause him his career.
Thank you for the suggestion guys.
I will be eyeing the Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler fight this December 13. It should be a good one. The World Bantamweight belt will be on the line.
Plus, a chance to see if Inoue will continue his untainted record and add 1 more to his wins.

-Johnriel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho
This is not much profitable as Casimero is a hard favorite, it would be better in a parlay.
Odds in Stake.com is already open.
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November 30, 2022, 12:11:50 AM
Paddie the Baddie has accepted Jake Paul’s terms for a fight. This will be interesting. I don’t think there’s any way this fight actually happens but the videos are hilarious to watch.

https://twitter.com/happypunchpromo/status/1597749499098976261

If this fight does actually happen then it will be a pretty good test for the both of them. Jake is quite a bit larger though and boxing is his sport, so I think Paddie would be the underdog.
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November 29, 2022, 02:55:20 PM
Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

Lomachenco is a great adaptive boxer, he can flawlessly transition to the style he thinks will have an advantage over his opponent.  The thing that I worry is that, Haney is huge, he is way bigger than Lomachenco reason why in their face-off during the interview after the fight of Loma, Loma asks if Devin Haney is a lightweight.[1]  It is obvious that Haney is way bigger than Lomachenco not only that Haney is also younger.  So I am somehow hesitating about the effectiveness of Loma's strategy against Haney due to the size difference.





[1] https://youtu.be/ZjQ9vcQ81eM?t=18
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November 29, 2022, 01:45:31 PM
There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.

I also agree, there are many fans of Loma who was obviously shaken with his performance because maybe the bar has been set very high. Maybe Ortiz is huge for him or Loma is getting old already (as per his crtics).

But he all know how Loma is very skillful, maybe he just had a ring rust or his mind is still with his beloved Ukraine that's why his performance is kinda disappointed.

However, if he is going to fight Haney for all the belts, then that is a extra motivation for him because that's what he really wanted until he lost to Teofimo Lopez.
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November 29, 2022, 07:38:15 AM
There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.

Both camps will continue to review their opponents fighting strategy, though with what you mentioned, I agree that Loma's last performance is not the same old Loma that we use to know, but on my own opinion, I can say that Loma is a skillfull fighter who can adjust with the way his opponents try to bring the fight, he will observe and will come up with startegy.

We might see the best of him again when facing the title holder, a good matchup that we will expect to happen next year.
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November 28, 2022, 06:45:57 PM
There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.

I haven't seen the link as well but I will speculate that it has something to do with Loma's amazing footwork and angles, and if Haney wanted to win then he could come up as the aggressor because he is big and tall and has the reach advantage.

On the other hand, there are boxing analyst who says that Loma's performance against Ortiz is not as we have expect of him.

And that Haney is going to defeat him if he shows that version if the two fight next year.
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November 28, 2022, 06:26:30 PM

Let's not forget the John Riel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho fight this Saturday @ 4AM ET at Incheon, South Korea

5 days left but their odds is not yet listed on my betting platform, maybe the bookies will list this bout in like 48 hours before their fight begins. This is interesting to see because it is somehow personal for Casimero because he need to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Akaho and this fight will determine Casimero's future in the industry. Failure to win will cause him his career.

Whoa! we have 7 boxing matches this Coming Dec 01 to 03 fights but yeah not are very well-known fighters so many are not interested, but yeah I am much interested in the John Riel Casimero VS Ryo Akaho fight and the upcoming Estrada vs. Chocolatito 3 so I will be posting those fights here,

Well, now that he was stripped of the belt, he really needs to prove in this fight that he can show them a great fight Casimero will need all he can muster up in order to win the fight but surely I think he is the favorite to win and said on Tapology that he got many votes that he would win here, but this fight is still not in the bookies, even in the stake.com for some reason, but here is the event,

Casimero vs. Akaho

Saturday 12.03.2022
Venue: Paradise City Hotel
Location: Incheon, South Korea



MAIN EVENT

John Riel Casimero VS Ryo Akaho

MAIN CARD

Jhonny Gonzalez VS Takuya Watanabe
Hiroki Okada VS Jin Su Kim
Kyung Min Hwang VS Kento Uchigamae
In Soo Jang VS Riku Masuda

All information was from TAPOLOGY


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November 28, 2022, 06:15:13 PM
Let's not forget the John Riel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho fight this Saturday @ 4AM ET at Incheon, South Korea

5 days left but their odds is not yet listed on my betting platform, maybe the bookies will list this bout in like 48 hours before their fight begins. This is interesting to see because it is somehow personal for Casimero because he need to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Akaho and this fight will determine Casimero's future in the industry. Failure to win will cause him his career.

Speaking of crypto-bookies possibility listing of this fight, I share my thought about that here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5417421 .

To summarize, I think there's a possibility that this fight won't be listed in crypto-bookies although it's just my guess.

Still, we will wait and hope that it will be listed.

There is no doubt that it's only for us PH community that this fight is hyped as we witness what Quadro Alas went through and being stripped of his WBO title because of his weight-related problem, medical condition, and violating some rules. We are disappointed that he should be supposed to be the one facing the Monster Naoya Inoue in the Bantamweight Unification Match next month and not Paul Butler. Well then, Casimero has no room for losing this match. Winning that fight will open his chance to climb up the ranks in order to be involved again in the contender discussion.
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November 28, 2022, 05:03:58 PM
^^ I thought that Devin Haney or at least their team is looking for Loma next at 135 lbs?

Devin Haney is currently into negotiation to have a possible match agains Lomachenco[1]

If they are calling Teo then they needed to go up at 140 lbs, which I think Devin doesn't have a problem. In any case, there could be some personal reasons for this, father vs father, might be a interesting story line. They will do the talking here as both very lively in the media.

I do not think that they will fight on 140 lbs.  There is no sense if there is no title at stake.  So I think they will make it out on 135 lbs to cater to more interest and reactions from viewers and fans.

So let's see first, Haney has a difficult fight in front of him in Loma 2023.

There are rumors roaming around the boxing industry that Lomachenco's boxing style would render Devin Haney's defensive style useless.  I could have put the link to the said rumor but somehow I can't find it anymore.  Either way, I am very interested in whether this rumor is true or not so I hope the negotiation between Devin Haney's camp and Vasily Lomachenco's will have a positive result.




[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/bill-haney-tells-teofimo-lopez-sr-he-wants-to-set-up-devin-vs-teo-fight/
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November 28, 2022, 03:58:21 PM
^^ Yes mate, I also lost on this one, I thought that Zepeda has something to offer and more, but he seems to be shot at 33 years of age. Both are tough, Prograis is obviously more durable and the fresher as we enter the 11th round and then score the knock out win.

Zepeda seems to be running out of gas, he has a good counter but not enough damage on Prograis that's why the accumulation of punches and fatigue really drain everything out of Chon. Congrats to Prograis, this is pretty much stack up division so let's see who will be next for him.

Moving on, what's our next big fight?

In this weight class? a lot mate, Jose Ramirez will be the next or should be the next. This is the belt that Ramirez used to hold, and that he lost it to Josh Taylor. And seen Josh Taylor vacated it, Prograis and Zepeda fought for it and not Prograis has the belt.

And according to Prograis, he has been avoided by Jose Ramirez for so long but their fight is inevitable.

There is also the second mandatory fight, Teo Lopez vs  Martin, so the winner can also be the potential fight for Prograis in the future.
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November 28, 2022, 08:14:30 AM
Moving on, what's our next big fight?
I don't really know what's the criteria of big fight do you want, if you're only looking for popular boxers then it's a lot but the odds is really small and doesn't worth to bet since it's less than 1.15x like Tyson Fury, Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue.

But if you're looking for better odds you can check a fight between Chocolatito vs Estrada, Charlo vs Tszyu and Warrington vs Luiz Lopez. There's so many fights from popular boxers will happen in this month.

Let's not forget the John Riel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho fight this Saturday @ 4AM ET at Incheon, South Korea

5 days left but their odds is not yet listed on my betting platform, maybe the bookies will list this bout in like 48 hours before their fight begins. This is interesting to see because it is somehow personal for Casimero because he need to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Akaho and this fight will determine Casimero's future in the industry. Failure to win will cause him his career.
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November 28, 2022, 02:49:09 AM
Moving on, what's our next big fight?
I don't really know what's the criteria of big fight do you want, if you're only looking for popular boxers then it's a lot but the odds is really small and doesn't worth to bet since it's less than 1.15x like Tyson Fury, Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue.

But if you're looking for better odds you can check a fight between Chocolatito vs Estrada, Charlo vs Tszyu and Warrington vs Luiz Lopez. There's so many fights from popular boxers will happen in this month.
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November 27, 2022, 10:34:38 PM
^^ Yes mate, I also lost on this one, I thought that Zepeda has something to offer and more, but he seems to be shot at 33 years of age. Both are tough, Prograis is obviously more durable and the fresher as we enter the 11th round and then score the knock out win.

Zepeda seems to be running out of gas, he has a good counter but not enough damage on Prograis that's why the accumulation of punches and fatigue really drain everything out of Chon. Congrats to Prograis, this is pretty much stack up division so let's see who will be next for him.
Yes, and Zepeda's urgency to get back in the scorecards is not seen. He is not that aggressive anymore in the last round of the game except for that round 10. His corner might be feeding him the wrong information about how he is behind so that he could be pushed to throw more punches.
One jab then defense, that's all he did in round 11 while Prograis is circling around trying to look for an opening.
Even if it went to a decision, it's obvious who will win the match.

Moving on, what's our next big fight?
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November 27, 2022, 08:01:04 PM

Yes, sort of tune up fights at 140 lbs, this is his second fight if I'm not mistaken at this new division, and so this is a steady climb for him before he faces the real champion. Prograis recently win against Zepeda so that's another option for him next if he wins against a rugged Martin.

But let's see, sometimes this cherry pick fight backfire on them as their opponent has nothing to lose.

The fight between Zepeda and Prograis, is very entertaining indeed but Prograis dominated the fight.

Well, he is giving himself false hope in cherry-picking opponents but if bullying will give him the confidence to move forward in getting to an upper division maybe this will give him something, but yeah this nit-picking can sometimes backfires at you, let's just wait if Sandor Martin can pull an upset, this is boxing after all,

In the Zepeda and Prograis fight, I really thought that Jose Zepeda was doing great landing shots at 1st getting his opening, as soon Regis Prograis have seen his opening by landing big shots he even stop some of Zepeda's punches, and in the progressing rounds Prograis really did see his length and even though Zepeda is hurt you can still see him counters I really think he is a real warrior in what he has shown but yeah Prograis just seen what he really must do with the fight,


It is obvious that Teofimo Lopez will be the favorite here.  I think this won't be a walk-in-the-park fight for Lopez because Martin had proven himself to be a tough boxer.  He maybe lost 2 fights but those are via decisions.  But I think it is also isn't a tough fight for Teofimo because Martin's records show that he isn't that heavy hitter.  I think the fight would go to distance testing each boxer's stamina.


He is the favorite to win again because this is cherry-picked by him that is, Teofimo Lopez is beefed up for this fight he is really readying in progressing up the division his real target was the belt all along, well I guess he wants to get a multi-division belt as well before he retires, I really think he will also go the distance and I am guessing that Teofimo is expecting that to happen to ready himself to a much bigger opponent because Campa he just threaded him with ease this will surely will be a more different fight but still Lopez is in the advantage,

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November 27, 2022, 05:40:14 PM
^^ I thought that Devin Haney or at least their team is looking for Loma next at 135 lbs?

If they are calling Teo then they needed to go up at 140 lbs, which I think Devin doesn't have a problem. In any case, there could be some personal reasons for this, father vs father, might be a interesting story line. They will do the talking here as both very lively in the media.

So let's see first, Haney has a difficult fight in front of him in Loma 2023.

I also expecting him to face Loma after both wins from their respective fight, not sure if they change route but if there's any updates regarding to this potential fight we will hear it next year, whatever the decisions coming from his camp then so be it. As long as Haney will produce interesting fight fans will be there to watch him inside the ring.

Though, there's still pressure with Loma as he's chasing for the belts and Haney is the current holder that he needs to challenge and beat.
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November 27, 2022, 03:35:28 PM
^^ I thought that Devin Haney or at least their team is looking for Loma next at 135 lbs?

If they are calling Teo then they needed to go up at 140 lbs, which I think Devin doesn't have a problem. In any case, there could be some personal reasons for this, father vs father, might be a interesting story line. They will do the talking here as both very lively in the media.

So let's see first, Haney has a difficult fight in front of him in Loma 2023.
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November 27, 2022, 03:28:05 PM


Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.



It is obvious that Teofimo Lopez will be the favorite here.  I think this won't be a walk-in-the-park fight for Lopez because Martin had proven himself to be a tough boxer.  He maybe lost 2 fights but those are via decisions.  But I think it is also isn't a tough fight for Teofimo because Martin's records show that he isn't that heavy hitter.  I think the fight would go to distance testing each boxer's stamina.


Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

I believe Lopez learned his lesson well when he lost to George Kambosos.  So we will see Lopez  on guard all the time.



Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Obviously, as this will warm him up, since there are news roaming the internet that Bill Haney Calls Teofimo  Lopez Sr. for the possible Haney - Lopez Jr match  provided that they both win their next match.[1]



[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/bill-haney-tells-teofimo-lopez-sr-he-wants-to-set-up-devin-vs-teo-fight/

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November 27, 2022, 03:07:34 PM
Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Yes, I guess we can indeed call this bout as a cherry-picked fight for Teo Lopez but this is an important fight for him too because this will be Teo's preparation before he will face either of the three champions. Currently, Lopez sits 4th of the super-light rankings while Martin is at 5th. And I'm seeing that Teo is also defending the regular belt of WBO super-light.

Yes, sort of tune up fights at 140 lbs, this is his second fight if I'm not mistaken at this new division, and so this is a steady climb for him before he faces the real champion. Prograis recently win against Zepeda so that's another option for him next if he wins against a rugged Martin.

But let's see, sometimes this cherry pick fight backfire on them as their opponent has nothing to lose.

The fight between Zepeda and Prograis, is very entertaining indeed but Prograis dominated the fight.
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November 27, 2022, 12:00:05 PM
Result for Whyte vs. Franklin

Dillian Whyte DEF Jermaine Franklin
Fabio Wardley DEF Nathan Gorman
Sandy Ryan DEF Anahi Esther Sanchez
Cheavon Clarke DEF Jose Gregorio Ulrich
Pat McCormack DEF Nicolas Andino
Mark Dickinson DEF Gideon Jonas
George Liddard DEF Nikola Matic
Thomas Carty DEF Pavlo Krolenko

Craig Richards vs. Ricards Bolotniks - Canceled
Magali Rodriguez vs. Sandy Ryan - Canceled

Result for Zepeda vs. Prograis

Regis Prograis DEF Jose Zepeda
Yokasta Valle DEF Evelyn Bermudez
Charles Conwell DEF Juan Carlos Abreu
Bakhodir Jalolov DEF Curtis Harper
Fernando Vargas Jr DEF Alejandro Martinez
Eduardo Estela DEF Ruben Torres
Nathan Rodriguez DEF Jerson Ortiz
Austin Brooks DEF Jesus Roman
Mario Ramos VS Geronimo Nahuel Sacco - Waiting Results
Eric Priest DEF Luis Alberto Vera
Jacob Macalolooy DEF Terrance Jarmon
Alejandro Reyes VS Daniel Perales - Waiting Results
Amado Vargas DEF Osmar Olmos Hernandez

Alejandro Reyes vs. Nelson Morales - Canceled
Jacob Macalolooy vs. Sincere Brooks - Canceled


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