Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 173. (Read 30388 times)

It's a money fight for sure especially if the name Canelo Alvarez is fighting, any stadium will surely be fully booked if he's fighting. And it's not about hype at all because this is a redemption fight for Canelo even if his chances is still low against the LHW champion and a rematch clause is included in their contract as well, that is why Canelo can always make it happen.

Just like with the Kambosos-Haney fight, Kambosos activated a rematch in just weeks after he was defeated in their first encounter and Haney can't do anything at all because it was included on their contract and the fact they signed it means that they agreed on all the terms.

Guys, dont forget that Artur Beterbiev is facing Anthony Yarde in 2023. This fight was originally postponed due to Beterbievs injury. Fight with Yarde, recovery and preparation period - looks like Beterbievs next fight could only happen in summer 2023. This is a very long pause for Bivol. That pause can be filled with either with Canelo (not likely) or by Joe Smith Jr. for example. Top3 in light heavy. He is also looking to recover reputation after a loss to Beterbiev and to have a rematch with Bivol. It could be a win-win solution for Smith. Bivol vs Smith could be the next fight.

It is a surely exciting fight if that Unification matchup against both undefeated would surely commence, but sad thing is that politics have suppressed the fans from seeing this fight, for me, I really want to see Dmitry Bivol VS Artur Beterbiev for sure it will be one hell of a fight, but if it can not continue, for me Canelo Alvarez would do,


Well, even though Derek Chisora isn't a very attractive fighter to watch against Tyson Fury, this is the only fight we have on December 3, well the only fight available, but what I want to see is a fight between Tyson Fury VS Francis Ngannou if possible, there is no thrill in watching another Deontay Wilder, or even an Anthony Joshua fight isn't really credible aswell, and Anthony Joshua doesn't want anything to do with Tyson Fury maybe he realizes that he doesn't really go to defeat Tyson Fury for sure, and staying away from him to get another lost,

Yeah, Canelo already know he's very struggling when he was fight against Bivol, he wouldn't take risk to lose all of his belts. It will depends on Bivol side, does he's really want to achieve more belts, fame or money? if he want to achieve more belts and fame, he should ask Canelo do a rematch at super middleweight division. If he want to get huge pay check, he will agree do rematch at light heavyweight division.

Personally I'd more interested to see the rematch at super middleweight division since Bivol already risk his belt before, next should be Canelo turn.

Yes, it was a obvious cherry pick fight for Tyson Fury. First, he said that he wanted to fight Usyk, but Usyk said he is not available obviously, he need to his body to heal and rest and the best option for him is next year at his home country. And then he calls Joshua out, for all British Heavyweight showdown, seems they are on the negotiation table, then suddenly it went South. And then they blame each other for the failed fight. And suddenly he announced that we will have a fight with Chisora. A fighter that he already beaten twice. So it doesn't make sense for his fans, but it's a get busy fight for him, so that he will remain active come next year.

It is logical to see Bivol and Canelo rematch in the light heavyweight division.  It is the division where the contract is agreed upon and possibly the rematch clause also includes the same division contest.  It is really exciting to see Beterbiev vs. Bivol so hopefully the politics between the two camps settle down and both agree for a unification fight.

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The fight between Tyson Fury and Chisora isn't that attractive.  It looks like Fury just nitpicked Chisora so that he can earn money without any high risk of losing.  If we look at Chisora's record, 12 losses  where two of them is comig from Fury, so this coming fight would possibly be the third losses of Chisora to Fury (2014-11-29 and 2011-07-23)[1].

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[1] https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/381739

Yup! he doesn't have any more power to do that and besides he will be thankful if Dmitry Bivol would really want to take that rematch, or if Dmitry Bivol would want to set something he's the one that can surely set it up, but he wants a Unification fight, for me Artur Beterbiev would be a hard fight for him but we will never know Artur Beterbiev is now 37 years old this fight should really happen because we will never know if when Artur Beterbiev would retire from boxing,

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But before that, the next big fight in Boxing will be on December 23, and it is the Fury vs. Chisora fight Location will be in Tottenham, London, England, I think this is an awaited event because it is Tyson Fury, and under the card was a regular Heavyweight fight the co-main Daniel Dubois VS Kevin Lerena fight with the EBU European Lightweight Title belt fight Yvan Mendy VS Denis Berinchyk fight and lastly EBU European Light Heavyweight Title belt fight Callum Johnson VS Thomas Faure, I guess there are many title fights in just one event, that is coming this December,

Depends on the management as well as the hype for their rematch. Money talks, as they like to say. If audiences will really push it, things might change and that includes fighters' plan. Same thing goes with rematch of other fighters or in other fighting sports; a player (often the winner) could just move on and seek for the next contender but if the result won't satisfy the fans, teams of each fighter could negotiate to feed that demand. And I believe same idea implies on choosing their next opponent especially if they are on the same weight category, or if their names happened to be on mainstream and on the same level and in some instances 'ties', on their names.

Well, let's say that their rematch will indeed happen in 168 lbs. and let's say that Bivol have also agreed to it. The question is, is Canelo Alvarez ready to risk his belts and the undisputed title? I don't think Canelo have the guts to risk his status now because he already know Bivol's capabilities. Remember that supermiddle and lightheavy have only 7 lbs. or 3 mere kilograms of difference. Bivol will surely take that challenge for sure if that's the case, no doubt.

Aside from that, Canelo don't have any power now to insist or demand what he want like to settle and contest their rematch in 168 pounds because he is now chasing Bivol, not the other way around. Furthermore, their first encounter happened in Bivol's division, so it's still better to make it happen in light-heavyweight and just like you guys said, this isn't the first time for Canelo.

I decided to bet only on the favorites (of course I analyzed the fights) and this is the result I had:



as my first multibet in the Boxing I was pleased to have won this multibet, there are still more games in this multibet, but if I were to post the image it would be too big, that's why I preferred to just post a part of the images, next bet I will make another multibet with the fights on the 11th, 12th and 13th, I see that in Sunny Edwards fight will win, in Shabaz Masoud fight will win, in Bradley Rea fight will win, in natasha jonas fight she will win. in the Dalton Smith fight will win. when making a multibet with these fights the odds would be @2.54 and I'll combine it with some soccer game to at least get an odd from @5.00 to @12.00 to make a decent profit

It was really too bad, but yeah it really happens, and Jerald Paclar really isn't aware that he would gas out from the fight well for a boxer of that Caliber, I really think he is used to fighting even in 12 rounds but this issue really happens to some fighters unexpected gassing out, and the body can not take the fatigue anymore, but I really think he showed a rematch worthy fight so why not, maybe the fight makers could realize his potential by just seeing the 1st few rounds,


Well, we will likely be seeing some news about that but both Dmitry Bivol and Canelo Alvarez better agreed fast they are getting older so fast that they will surely miss the good fight that they might have, but for me, anything for Dmitry Bivol is a great fight if the Unification fight would not get through then a Canelo Alvarez or even a Zurdo Ramirez rematch will quite OK until the camp of Dmitry Bivol would not get a bigger fight for him,

Sad but true, this is not the first time though, boxing politics have been with us decades already, it's just they are more magnify right now with all the managers tying up with networks like Sho, ESPN and now DaZN, so it makes it's impossible to make big fights because it's business as well.


I don't think that Bivol can go and fight at 168 lbs, he has been a true light heavy weight fighter in his career. So most likely if Canelo insisted at this comfortable weight, Bivol is not going to take the fight. Canelo has 2 fights already in light heavy weight so I guess there is no problem for him moving up again and rematch Bivol. Although the result might still be the same as you have said.

According to some replies the fight with Canelo would be  more possible to happen since Bivol - Beterbiev is somehow impossible due to boxing politics.  It is a sad thing that even sports is greatly affected by politics.  So we will be missing this Unification fight until the problem with their promoter is fixed.

If ever both party agreed for a rematch, I wonder which weight Division are they fighting, would it be Canelo's division? or Bivol's division?  If ever Canelo go up in weight division just to fight Bivols in his natural Division, I think we will be seeing the same result like their first fight.

Yes, he gasses out after 3 rounds, if he just had enough stamina, I think he can pull it off with that upset.

Yafai on the other hand, seems to wake up after that knock down, and then make a huge comeback, probably it was just ring rust that affected him early in the fight. But once he got his confidence and the rhythm, just a matter of time. Just another lessons learned for Paclar, nut not sure if he will still be given this chance to fight again at this level. He was in the undercard of one of the biggest fight in Light HW.

I haven't seen any cryptocurrency betting site that has bookies for this fight, even in the stake but I didn't check the 2nd time so maybe they have posted late bookies for it, but surely there are betting for the DRAFTKINGS, BETMGM, and BETRIVERS for most of the fight, and Dmitry Bivol has a huge gap over the odds,


Well if there are Filipino fighters out there I fully support them, but for most of the fights here I haven't got any clue at all, I just look at the paper and base there my picks, the Main Event, and the 2 Filipino's certainly I have an insight on them, and the fight just goes smoothly but with the Jerald Paclar VS Khalid Yafai, it was an unlucky day for him to gas out like that, but Still John Ordonio just make a win and that is good enough, however, Gohan Rodriguez is not a Filipino, he is Mexican, I just like his name that is all, 


Well, if he is open to fighting Canelo Alvarez I think that is good enough but yeah a Unification title fight would be great aswell for me Artur Beterbiev is a bigger threat to Dmitry Bivol than Canelo Alvarez it could dirty his clean record and I really don't like that to happen, but for the enjoyment of all It will be a crazy fight,

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Results on my quick picks
 
Dmitry Bivol VS Zurdo Ramirez ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

Chantelle Cameron VS Jessica McCaskill ROUND 10 - DECISION - WIN

Shavkatdzhon Rakhimov VS Zelfa Barrett ROUND 9 - KO/TKO - WIN

Galal Yafai VS Gohan Rodriguez ROUND 10 - DECISION - LOST

Khalid Yafai VS Jerald Paclar ROUND 10 - DECISION - LOST

Campbell Hatton VS Denis Bartos ROUND 1 - KO/TKO - WIN

Majid Al-Naqbi VS John Ordonio ROUND 4 - DECISION - WIN

Jerald Paclar dominated the first 3 rounds and even sent Yafai to the floor. But the latter didn't lose his confidence and tried to stand strong until finally find his rhythm and turned the table on that fight. Lack of stamina is what I have noticed on Paclar as he might give it all right away in the early rounds already just to finish the fight early.

Although his strategy is effective, he just lacks the gas to keep being dominated the whole round.

The worst one, he didn't even win in one of the judges even with early dominance.

And guess what, Jerald Paclar knock down Kal Yafai and almost pull one of the biggest upset in the Bivol - Ramirez undercard. However, Yafai was able to overcome his first round knock down and then make a comeback to win in judges score card: 96-93, 96-93 and 95-94.

It could be sweet if Jerald was able to maintain and take home the win, but I guess his experience really shows in the latter round of the fight.

Unfortunately, PH Jerald Paclar loses in his match against Kal Yafai via Unanimous Decision. Paclar has a high chance of getting the win as he dominated the early rounds but Yafai managed to get back on track and settle the match in his favor.

On the other hand, another PH boxer on the undercard, John Lawrence Ordonio upset his opponent, Majid Al Naqbi via Unanimous Decision. Referring to the final score, Ordonio dominates the entire match even in the pre-match, he was the underdog in this fight.

The main event, Bivol vs Ramirez is now currently in action.

As far as I know, some online articles stated that Dmitry  Bivol is open to a Canelo Alvares rematch but he is more interested in a unification title fight against Artur Beterbiev that holds the three titles (WBC, IBF, and WBO).  In my point of view, I believe it is more exciting to watch a unification title bout of the light heavyweight Division than just a rematch against Canelo.  Besides, I don't think Canelo would stand a chance if he fights in the light heavyweight division after seeing his performance against Bivol.



True, Tyson Fury seems using the power of social media hype.  He needs some noise so that people will take notice of his upcoming fight.  Since the fight isn't really that interesting, Fury has to do more social media hyping to catch people's curiosity and watch his fight to check his current boxing performance if it is still on par or better than Usyk.