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Quote from: Baofeng on November 16, 2022, 05:41:52 PM

We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

Yes, surprised to see how Prograis became a favorite and with that kind of odds. I think Zepeda has pull an upset here and I like his odd at 4.x.

Zepeda is very durable as well so I expect this fight to be a war as this is for the belt. Although Prograis is also good, but it's going to be a close fight here.

Maybe the fight can go either direction in the judges scorecard, but I do agree, if someone who also look for a live underdog, it will be Zepeda in this fight.

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The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Yep, he put Manny's name on the map with his careful match making and of course him being in the sports for so long, he can pull that off and then make Manny look great, and both of them making money at the same time. We all call it, milking the cow, millions earn by both of them throughout their partnership.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

At the end of the day, Arum still getting huge money out from his fighters. Just like you said, Manny in the later part of his career decided to part-ways with Arum and start his own promotion, that action didn't harm Arum in anyhow, though for a while maybe he loss millions of percentage with those fights that Pacquiao have before his retirement but being a good handler with an established name in this business, Arum simply creates another hotshot to be his milking cow.

And the cycle continues for Arum and his business. This sport is more about how to make money. That's why each fighter really aiming to give everything so promoters will notice them and give them the chance to change their life.

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We have a 140 lbs fight this November, it's between Regis Prograis and Jose Zepeda.

Josh Taylor unified the 140 lbs belt, but he then decided to relinquished the WBC belt and now Prograis and Zepeda will have a chance to get this belt. Prograis lost to Taylor while Zepeda against Jose Ramirez, (and then Taylor beat Ramirez to get all the belts).

Prograis a huge favorite as per Stake @1.23, against Zepeda's odds @4.00

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Quote from: freedomgo on November 16, 2022, 11:49:02 AM

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Aside from keeping the boxer on top of the rank, Bob Arum's also gives a boxer an opportunity to shine. He is a good promoter and knows how to match his boxer . I agree that Bob Arum is the reason why Manny Pacquiao become one of the greatest boxers in history.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 16, 2022, 04:45:46 PM

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

Well, that is business in boxing. After one is good enough to establish his own he will do it, while a promoter will look for someone who can be his cash cow.

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The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

Yep, he put Manny's name on the map with his careful match making and of course him being in the sports for so long, he can pull that off and then make Manny look great, and both of them making money at the same time. We all call it, milking the cow, millions earn by both of them throughout their partnership.

And then they move on, Manny didn't sign any contract, put up his own company and had a few good fights.

While Arum find another cash cow in Inoue and others. So that is the vicious cycle of boxing being a business with this promoters.

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Quote from: harizen on November 15, 2022, 03:23:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2022, 07:08:30 AM

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

Bob Arum's just doing what he have to do in-order to make business and pave a way for his boxers to bloom and then maintain their status when they are at the top, in fact, there's a lot of young boxers who would want to be under Bob Arum's umbrella because they knew the exposure that Arum can give to them once they land under him. Just like what he did to Pacquiao, he was one of the reasons why he achieved that status. He knew that Pacquiao will be great, he just pave a way for him because he knows exactly what to do.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 16, 2022, 04:25:45 AM

Quote from: harizen on November 15, 2022, 03:23:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2022, 07:08:30 AM

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

True, boxing is a business, and so these boxers need the middle man like Bob Arum to negotiate. If there are businessman that understand that side, then this boxers might be taken advantage of and fights not being broadcast. So there could be some that hate Arum and others, but they are the one who build boxing to where it is today and boxers earning millions in return.

I fully understand both your side and it's true that nothing can be done with any fighters career if there' no big promoters that will handle the job, and what we witness with Pacquiao's career and those many other fighters who changes their lives after being promoted by Arum, nothing but they all gain huge compensation with how Arum manage their finances and the negotiations with the fights that they take.

It's all business and whoever has that big influence always has the advantages of earning more.

He just use that connection and established a fighter's career to make sure that he will suck lots of money out from the fighter's legacies.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on November 16, 2022, 04:25:45 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2022, 07:08:30 AM

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

True, boxing is a business, and so these boxers need the middle man like Bob Arum to negotiate. If there are businessman that understand that side, then this boxers might be taken advantage of and fights not being broadcast. So there could be some that hate Arum and others, but they are the one who build boxing to where it is today and boxers earning millions in return.

You can say it like that way, and it also payed for boxers like ODL or Floyd to get out of their contract and established their own boxing promotions, Golden Boy Promotions and TMT for Floyd.

So there are positive things like Bob and Don King being a boxing manager, making millions for themselves, and then taking advantage of many boxers already. I guess for boxers, if they really don't know how to take care of their money because of lack of education maybe, the fault might be on themselves as this is a busines, and they have to deal with their manager as businessman taking cuts on their every fight.

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Quote from: harizen on November 15, 2022, 03:23:27 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2022, 07:08:30 AM

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

True, boxing is a business, and so these boxers need the middle man like Bob Arum to negotiate. If there are businessman that understand that side, then this boxers might be taken advantage of and fights not being broadcast. So there could be some that hate Arum and others, but they are the one who build boxing to where it is today and boxers earning millions in return.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 16, 2022, 03:38:41 AM

That's right! The boxers are left hanging because they cannot do what they wanted and so is their legacy left uncemented because of some fights were to impossible to happen. Promoters should've just agree that whoever has more belt or whoever has more to offer, they should be the ones who will control the fight and demand what will happen as they're on the A-side, but that's just easier said than done because these promoters aren't willing to listen.

There's more than this actually because we don't know what kinds of negotiations they're having behind closed doors. I think it's not all because of money but something bigger than that if the negotiations between two huge boxers are not successful. First of all, promoters don't really care about their boxer's glory or records when they reach popularity where their fight can earn millions of dollars because, at this point, promoters are taking care of everything especially when they gonna fight a worthy opponent that is capable of defeating them, if it's not a multi-million deal, it won't gonna happen and they won't take the risk at all.

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We have a lot of fights in the wing, Garcia vs Davis, these two have been promising us boxing fans for a fight, hopefully it will push through next year regardless of their network. And then for all the belts, Haney vs Loma, another great fight for us, Loma used to have all the belts, but Haney's skills are too much for Kambosos. Who knows, maybe Kambosos will figure out how to stay in the division as well to mess things up.

There are a lot of great boxers now but their promotions are the one stopping them from meeting in the ring, one example is the Spence - Crawford, the boxers should have a say on who he wants to fight, Garcia has been badly wanting to fight Davis for a long time, but it's not happening, hopefully now that Garcia is showing eagerness again Davis camp will sit up and make a deal, Loma is always ready to fight anybody and so is Haney so we'll see this two going at each other next year with no problem with their respective promotions, its time that great boxers meet in the ring and promoters agree to complete the deal.

Sad but true mate, it's the promotion and network ties that preventing us to witnessed great fight in this division. Although I'm seeing the Lomchenko vs Haney can be made because they are tied to Bob Arum's Top Rank. But the other fight like Garcia and Davis, Golden Boy/Premier Boxing, might be hard to make this fight and Oscar recently criticizes PBC, siding with Crawford when he reveal what goes behind the scene on the negotiation between him and Al Haymon. And same with the Cruz vs Stevenson, although ordered by the world governing bodies, possible that it won't happen because of boxing politics.

Can be made but it's not yet clear to know that there would be no stumbling block on their future fight because Haney is under Eddie Hearn and we know that Loma is under Bob Arum, usually, Bob will always insist to televise the fight in ESPN. Just like what happened between Crawford and Spence in the recent years because Spence is with Al Haymon's PBC. And I'd like to correct you mate, Tank Davis is not with PBC, he's under Floyd Mayweather Promotions while yes, Ryan Garcia is with Golden Boy.

All those handlers are for the money so if they will negotiate and both parties/camps agrees then we might see the fight to happen, though the chance still not that good as all of them are really aiming for the favor and if the other camps will not agree then there's nothing to offer for the fans.

Money will talk loudly and the chance that fans will enjoy fights that they've been waiting will continue to rely to those handlers for both camps.

That's right! The boxers are left hanging because they cannot do what they wanted and so is their legacy left uncemented because of some fights were to impossible to happen. Promoters should've just agree that whoever has more belt or whoever has more to offer, they should be the ones who will control the fight and demand what will happen as they're on the A-side, but that's just easier said than done because these promoters aren't willing to listen.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2022, 07:08:30 AM

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

Not siding with Arum but somehow, we can't hide the fact that his big influence also plays a role in why most of his top fighters are able to earn big money throughout their career. What if Pacquiao didn't land on a big promoter, I doubt he will have some big fights while at the peak of his career. Bob Arum, being a professional businessman in this industry knows how to make big revenue in a certain match. Of course, without a big money flowing on a certain match, how can they even pay their boxers with that guaranteed money (that was different from purse split)?

Boxing is really business at some point, but somehow a boxer can build a legacy while also doing business at the same time.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 14, 2022, 05:44:38 AM

For those who are interested on the results of the Floyd Mayweather vs social media star Deji Olatunji, it was a 6th round stoppage of the schedule 8th rounds.

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Referee Kenny Bayless stepped between them late in the sixth round to stop the bout because Mayweather landed unanswered punches.

The Hall-of-Fame fighter danced between rounds, laughed and joked during much of the two-minute rounds and clearly wasn’t worried about anything Olatunji threw back at him. Whenever inclined, Mayweather landed at will on Olatunji’s body and head.

Mayweather opened up on Olatunji as soon as the sixth round started, when he finally felt like knocking out Olatunji.

https://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-toys-with-youtuber-deji-olatunji-stops-him-6th-round-exhibition--170446

And so easy win and money for Floyd, maybe another Japanese at the end of the year for him?

We will have to wait for Pacquiao's exhibition match this December though and then after that he has a schedule as well next year.

This doesn't surprise me anymore and I stopped following his future fights because it's not that interesting anymore because his fights are just pure business without any entertainments. The thing that surprises me the most is how is this guy getting more fights each year? And it seems that there are still rich businessmen out there who are willing to pay Mayweather's extravagant fee in exchange of fighting their famous fighters, that is not even near Mayweather's caliber or at least can make the fight a little interesting.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 14, 2022, 04:09:25 PM

What a pathetic mess that interaction between Jake Paul and the Fury family at Tommy’s fight. I can’t believe they let that happen and were actually giving Jake Paul a microphone. It seems like Jake Paul has started disrespecting the sport that made him worth a great deal of money. This might be the beginning of the end for his boxing career as he seems like he focusing on being a showman more than a boxer.

Nope, Jake Paul career wouldn't end just because of this... it would be end when he lose in boxing professional record which make him isn't an undefeated boxer anymore. If Jake Paul will fight against Tommy Fury, I wouldn't surprised if Jake Paul will win again. Tommy Fury wouldn't care with his record, he might show a good fight, but he would let Jake Paul to beat him. Maybe a rematch would happen just like Tyron Woodley.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 14, 2022, 04:07:15 PM

Yes, but usually they want to keep all the money for them. Just like what Bob Arum did to Manny Pacquiao, all in house fight. Although they made a fight between him and Floyd, it's kinda late though, specially for Manny who is already declining that time.

So we will see if this organizations can force this kind of mandatory or title eliminators to boxers even if they are on the opposite side as far as manager and network tie.

The decision will always on their favor. We can't force them to push the fight unless they are satisfied with the amount that they can collect once the fight proceeds. Greediness inside those people is no longer new. They will suck all the possible amount as long as the fighter is under their umbrella.

Just like what you mentioned about Pacquiao and how things went between him and Arum.

Money talks, as always, with sports that have a huge amount of money that flows each time well-known fighters are at stake.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 14, 2022, 05:44:38 AM

For those who are interested on the results of the Floyd Mayweather vs social media star Deji Olatunji, it was a 6th round stoppage of the schedule 8th rounds.

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Referee Kenny Bayless stepped between them late in the sixth round to stop the bout because Mayweather landed unanswered punches.

The Hall-of-Fame fighter danced between rounds, laughed and joked during much of the two-minute rounds and clearly wasn’t worried about anything Olatunji threw back at him. Whenever inclined, Mayweather landed at will on Olatunji’s body and head.

Mayweather opened up on Olatunji as soon as the sixth round started, when he finally felt like knocking out Olatunji.

https://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-toys-with-youtuber-deji-olatunji-stops-him-6th-round-exhibition--170446

And so easy win and money for Floyd, maybe another Japanese at the end of the year for him?

We will have to wait for Pacquiao's exhibition match this December though and then after that he has a schedule as well next year.

lol, completely forgot that Floyd Matweather had a fight recently. It more than a day before information about undefeated and most highly paid boxer will be posted on the forum. This shows how useless that fight was. He did not even deserved to get a separate topic here he-he Cheesy

This whole fight looked like Floyd flew to UAE for a shopping and simply hopped on in a ring to warm up.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 14, 2022, 04:09:25 PM

What a pathetic mess that interaction between Jake Paul and the Fury family at Tommy’s fight. I can’t believe they let that happen and were actually giving Jake Paul a microphone. It seems like Jake Paul has started disrespecting the sport that made him worth a great deal of money. This might be the beginning of the end for his boxing career as he seems like he focusing on being a showman more than a boxer.

It may look like disrespecting the sports but I think Jake Paul is just doing his plan of hyping his next fight. Probably Tommy Fury and Jake Paul had agreed to have a boxing match and is yet revealed in public. So he is making the possible fight interesting by doing a ringside altercation[1]. And in retaliation Tommy Fury warns Jake Paul that he will break Jake Pauls face[2].

It is funny how these two boxers is building up the heat of their possible upcoming fight. As far as I know, they should have met in the ring last DEc. 2021 but was canceled due to Fury's injury. and had a rescheduled fight on last Aug.6 but was cancelled.[3]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWG1U15MC88
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g18CbaywlXY
[3] https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/62063092

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 14, 2022, 04:09:25 PM

What a pathetic mess that interaction between Jake Paul and the Fury family at Tommy’s fight. I can’t believe they let that happen and were actually giving Jake Paul a microphone. It seems like Jake Paul has started disrespecting the sport that made him worth a great deal of money. This might be the beginning of the end for his boxing career as he seems like he focusing on being a showman more than a boxer.

He has been a showman even before him entering the "boxing", both brothers are youtube sensation and that's how they make money. And when they get involved in this exhibition matches, they went a notch higher, fighting Floyd putting pranks on him at presscon. Not sure if this incident will stop them, maybe if they will get knock out by someone cold in the canvass, but if they continue to make money for their opponent and rigged the results in their future. sad to say but they could be in the business in the next couple of years.

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What a pathetic mess that interaction between Jake Paul and the Fury family at Tommy’s fight. I can’t believe they let that happen and were actually giving Jake Paul a microphone. It seems like Jake Paul has started disrespecting the sport that made him worth a great deal of money. This might be the beginning of the end for his boxing career as he seems like he focusing on being a showman more than a boxer.

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We have a lot of fights in the wing, Garcia vs Davis, these two have been promising us boxing fans for a fight, hopefully it will push through next year regardless of their network. And then for all the belts, Haney vs Loma, another great fight for us, Loma used to have all the belts, but Haney's skills are too much for Kambosos. Who knows, maybe Kambosos will figure out how to stay in the division as well to mess things up.

There are a lot of great boxers now but their promotions are the one stopping them from meeting in the ring, one example is the Spence - Crawford, the boxers should have a say on who he wants to fight, Garcia has been badly wanting to fight Davis for a long time, but it's not happening, hopefully now that Garcia is showing eagerness again Davis camp will sit up and make a deal, Loma is always ready to fight anybody and so is Haney so we'll see this two going at each other next year with no problem with their respective promotions, its time that great boxers meet in the ring and promoters agree to complete the deal.

Sad but true mate, it's the promotion and network ties that preventing us to witnessed great fight in this division. Although I'm seeing the Lomchenko vs Haney can be made because they are tied to Bob Arum's Top Rank. But the other fight like Garcia and Davis, Golden Boy/Premier Boxing, might be hard to make this fight and Oscar recently criticizes PBC, siding with Crawford when he reveal what goes behind the scene on the negotiation between him and Al Haymon. And same with the Cruz vs Stevenson, although ordered by the world governing bodies, possible that it won't happen because of boxing politics.

Can be made but it's not yet clear to know that there would be no stumbling block on their future fight because Haney is under Eddie Hearn and we know that Loma is under Bob Arum, usually, Bob will always insist to televise the fight in ESPN. Just like what happened between Crawford and Spence in the recent years because Spence is with Al Haymon's PBC. And I'd like to correct you mate, Tank Davis is not with PBC, he's under Floyd Mayweather Promotions while yes, Ryan Garcia is with Golden Boy.

All those handlers are for the money so if they will negotiate and both parties/camps agrees then we might see the fight to happen, though the chance still not that good as all of them are really aiming for the favor and if the other camps will not agree then there's nothing to offer for the fans.

Money will talk loudly and the chance that fans will enjoy fights that they've been waiting will continue to rely to those handlers for both camps.

Yes, but usually they want to keep all the money for them. Just like what Bob Arum did to Manny Pacquiao, all in house fight. Although they made a fight between him and Floyd, it's kinda late though, specially for Manny who is already declining that time.

So we will see if this organizations can force this kind of mandatory or title eliminators to boxers even if they are on the opposite side as far as manager and network tie.

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