Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 174. (Read 31605 times)

I guess I learned new today because I haven't know that there's a regular champion existing for the WBO belt as I only knew about the WBA regular belt that Gervonta had in the lower division. I did traced it why Lopez got that belt when in fact this bout is just his 2nd fight since he moved up and I saw that he got it against Pedro Campa because the belt was vacate at that time. Regarding to this topic for Teo's 2nd bout, I guess he won't have some hardships as well because Sandor Martin is not that much of a threat but it is better if he wouldn't underestimate him though.

Yes, I guess we can indeed call this bout as a cherry-picked fight for Teo Lopez but this is an important fight for him too because this will be Teo's preparation before he will face either of the three champions. Currently, Lopez sits 4th of the super-light rankings while Martin is at 5th. And I'm seeing that Teo is also defending the regular belt of WBO super-light.

Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Yes, Martin's resume included winning against Mikey Garcia, but then again when they fought Mikey is in the twilight of his career. And if I'm not mistaken, after this lost, he decided to quit for good. But I don't think that Martin can beat a prime Mikey Garcia, he is more tougher that anyone thought. His first defeat comes in the hands of Errol Spence when Mikey decided to move up and it was a disaster for facing the bigger and more younger Spence that time.

^^ Yes mate, I also lost on this one, I thought that Zepeda has something to offer and more, but he seems to be shot at 33 years of age. Both are tough, Prograis is obviously more durable and the fresher as we enter the 11th round and then score the knock out win.

Zepeda seems to be running out of gas, he has a good counter but not enough damage on Prograis that's why the accumulation of punches and fatigue really drain everything out of Chon. Congrats to Prograis, this is pretty much stack up division so let's see who will be next for him.

That's a loss for me betting for Jose Zepeda but it's okay. It was so entertaining that it reached round 11.
Zepeda was tough, that is undoubtful. I think I can only give him two rounds in that fight, especially round 10. That was awesome.
But Prograis is controlling the pace in round 11, he keeps on moving his feet, throwing combos until he got Zepeda to lower his defense.
I guess fatigue had some effect too and Zepeda is not throwing many punches on that round until he was almost knocked down when the referee stopped it.

Congratulations to all the winners of this fight.

Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

Well, maybe reminiscing some of the Histories biggest upsets in boxing for Manny Pacquaio and that is the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, well the picture was for attention and for me I was laughing the moment I have seen it even though I already saw it on the past, it was still Iconic,

Is it the Dillian Whyte VS Jermaine Franklin fight? well if not then care to share the link,
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I got your point about that, yes it was one of the biggest that time, and it was iconic.

For the Whyte vs Franklin weigh-in, I found their official weigh-in, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCYGeVOw9qM. Just go move forward to 33:36. It was a full video of weigh in, from the undercard to the main event.

Yes, I was looking at the Prograis vs Zepeda fight this Sunday.

As far as I remember when I watch this fight, Manny is leading here,  and Marquez is already bleeding.  Though they both scored a KD in the early rounds, it is obvious that Manny is dominating the fight until...  he was KOed by Marquez.  It was a timed punch, probably this is the result of Marquez's rigorous training and counter-strategy against rampaging Manny Pacquiao.  Manny always has this trait of punching continuously while moving forward leaving himself open for a counter.  I know Marquez had been simulating this kind of attack from Manny since he (Manny) always use it and well Marquez got lucky that the opportunity present this kind of situation and had Manny sleep on the canvas.

It was a horrible sight for Pacquiao fan but a beautiful scene for Marquez.  After the fight, I respected Manny more because he accepted the loss and even made fun of his scenario as a sign of moving on after the storm.


There had been lots of articles and talks about the possibility of Andy Ruiz Jr. and Wilder but I do not know if both parties had agreed to this.  This would be an interesting fight since Ruiz had never been stopped before, and Wilder have a good record of almost knocking all his opponent.  So we can see whether Wilder can add Ruiz to his collection of KOed opponents.

Yeah it's boxing and once upset happened you will enjoy a lot after watching the fight, @4.30 is worth the risk as long as you are willing to let go the amount that you will going to use for this fight. Maybe Zepeda may bring his killing combination and bring Prograis down or it can be a vice versa, but along the way if you are also betting for fun then taking the underdog will let you feel that pressure.

It's really adding huge fun when you see the underdog bringing solid conversions and if luck permits and you win, the pleasure that it added to your win is something that will make you smile for the whole day..

Oh! sorry, I should have missed it, and I thought the fight was on November 18, but right now it change to 26, well I really don't know what happen but it is a good thing that we will have the fight to look forward to this weekend, now that we don't have a UFC event for this week, at least I got to see a boxing match for me Regis Prograis could be a tough fight for Jose Zepeda given that Prograis is pretty much confidence that he will attain the belt, but for me, I like the stature and the length of Zepeda than Prograis he got the reach advantage, but they got the same age, and also he got the experience in making this happen, now that Regis Prograis has lost to Taylor, and the belt was vacated it was an opportunity for him to get the belt but I think Jose Zepeda could be highly explosive than him,


I am attractive at the odds as well and so I might have a shot at betting with Jose Zepeda, pretty much those attractive odds  it pretty much what many are after as well, and right now  think  Jose Zepeda has two advantages over Prograis in my opinion, that will be the reach and the experience, going to the fight I really like his physique, then with Regis Prograis, and not only the main event looking on the other fights as well, on this event, if there are valuable bet to get,

I'm not going to bet on this fight, but ever I have the chance, I will go and put money on Zepeda, he was a huge underdog and so with that, it's very attractive. I'm also surprise as you are with the odds the bookmakers are listing here, but if we can take advantage then Zepeda's bet is all worth it even if he losses this fight.

At least, we don't have to talk that much about the fight between Spence and Crawford.

They have move on and so is the fans here.

Yeah, who started it? 
But it's fun to discuss it again even for just a short while. Histories are what build the boxing industry because we tend to compare some fighters to them.
 
Anyway, I have given my opinion on Prograis vs Zepeda fight.
Maybe we could have some predictions on who will win this fight. Both are strong boxers, they also have that KO punch as most of their wins is from TKO.
I am thinking about betting for the underdog here, Jose Zepeda, profits are @4.30, and for the favorite Regis Prograis @1.21.
It's risky, but damn it's boxing, you'll never know.

I have share the Prograis vs Zepeda, if that is what he is trying to discussed about the welterweight fight this weekend.

Although this two fell short in their attempts in the past because it was Josh Taylor who really took over this division, but now everyone has equal footing as the 3 belts is open including because Taylor vacated the belt and concentrating on defending just the WBO belt against Jack Catterall as they have a very close fight.

So maybe there are boxing fans that wanted and eagerly anticipating the Prograis vs Zepeda.

In any case, you may want to check this link: http://philboxing.com/news/story-164702.html

 
Well, we can not say the least if other boxers are pursuing that kind of thing Manny Pacquaio has to attain, but we can not see the same as we did anytime soon or if it will still be in the Philippines or in another country, but you are right that the dedication Pacman has given to boxing is bar non can not be achieved by an ordinary Boxer, Pacman has to sacrifice something to get to this kind of status, so if a boxer would want to be focus he needs to sacrifice and the dedication you can surely seen it on a Manny Pacquiao


Well, maybe reminiscing some of the Histories biggest upsets in boxing for Manny Pacquaio and that is the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, well the picture was for attention and for me I was laughing the moment I have seen it even though I already saw it on the past, it was still Iconic,

Is it the Dillian Whyte VS Jermaine Franklin fight? well if not then care to share the link,

Lol, why this thread suddenly turns into Manny Pacquiao meme? the knock out win of Marquez is already years ago?

There are good fight this weekend regarding Prograis and Zepeda, two hungry fighters who want to get the belt at 140 lbs. And so for the meantime, it might be a "relieve fight" from the failed Spence vs Crawford fight as this could really be a war.

It's one of the best and unforgettable fight. And we got to see rematches from these two, but this won't happen anymore.

We have different thoughts on that situation. For me and the rest, we think that it's better for him to assess the situation and be passive-aggressive during that time so that he's aware that a lucky punch might come.

I don't think that there will be someone who will attain the same achievements as Pacquiao. He's a beast and a dedicated boxer to his craft, the passion is there. But who knows if someone comes out with the same passion and dedication of what he's achieved.

It was really an epic win for Juan Manuel Marquez, and it will be added to history as one of the great revenge for Juan Manuel Marquez on the Boxing legend Manny Pacquaio, surely many will not forget that iconic drop of Manny where many have made some meme's about it like this one here



I know this is Manny Pacquaio we are talking about but it already happened he already lost badly to Juan Manuel Marquez and producing funny memes like this is surely hilarious, but let's wait for the new generation of boxer to put up to the challenge if they can attain the status just like Manny did,


In my opinion, Andy Ruiz Jr. is also a volume puncher their 2nd fight against Anthony Joshua was pretty much amazing to watch, he has the speed and the power so combined it was surely dangerous, so fighting Wilder would be a tough one for him in my opinion, we could surely see the real power of Deontay Wilder's true power when faced with Andy Ruiz, while Usyk and Fury, I can't say for sure, but I am more leaning to Tyson Fury's fight IQ and power and because for me both have the fight IQ to really dig deep on their opponent when the speed was for Usyk the power just go to Tyson Fury but I think 1 punch is what Fury needs to defeat Usyk,

I think that was the right thing to do for Manny, be aggressive, but that last second attempt was unnecessary which unfortunately a perfect counter from Marquez put him to sleep.
Manny was indeed winning that match, I don't say he became careless, who knows he might have seen an opening too as Marquez was a bit dazzled after he got knocked down.
That, might be Marquez 's greatest win of all time.

What about speed? Isnt Wilder much faster than Ruiz? I mean will Ruiz have enough dexterity to deliver his bomb to Wilders chin? Wilder is not a pile of muscled like AJ. In fact, Wilder is small for a heavyweight. He does not look like a natural heavyweight. That is why he has those stamina problems, as he is pumped for heavy. He is more huge cruiserweight than a heavyweight, just like Usyk. Imho it will be speed + punching power vs punching power, but no tricky strategy from both sides. Indeed a very intriguing fight might be.

That far?
I checked Zepeda's record and it's good, 35 wins 27 KOs. Also, he has that lights-out southpaw punch that could end the fight anytime.
Here are his highlights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OizTP3TasbQ
Could it be the near-retirement decision that made him a super underdog?

Regis Prograis on the other hand will make you think he defeated weak fighters because of the way it all ends.
Body punches that end with a knockdown are a rare thing, accuracy is needed for them to be successful. Strong chin too, and will go face to face without a clinch.
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-KKbf6wc14
27 wins, 23 KO.

I think someone will get knockdown in this fight.