Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 176. (Read 32585 times)

Still to early for Devin Haney to move up to the next weight class, I mean, they should think about it well because the lightweight division right now is packed with good boxers that also have their own fan bases so that really means money that will likely be wasted. Might be best for him to take advantage and do some clean-up before vacating his position.

And for Haney vs Loma fight, that will be a big money fight for sure and best to make it happen while there's still a lot of people who are asking for it. But I'm not that sure if Haney's camp are also interested because there's a rumor right now that his camp is eyeing for Shakur Stevenson.

I agree both on your opinions, Haney's camp should take a closer look with the flowing money that will come to their pocket if they will accept the fight, the hypes are already inside it's just the negotiations at finality of the contract deal is what the fans is waiting, it's a long been waited title match between these two fighters and now that they are already have this opportunities better to give it all back to the fans who would love to see them showing their skills and strategies.

It is a wise decision to fight Loma first before moving up.  I bet Haney's camp is considering the money flow options since fighting Loma will definitely cater lots of audiences, it may possibly be one of the best selling PPV that year because their fight has long been awaited by fans and spectators.


I do hope that Haney will give Loma a chance to have a shot on the title before Haney consider to move up in division. And it would be a shame and a lost of huge money if Haney decided to move up just to evade Lomachenco.

For those who are waiting for the Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall rematch, it is reported that the fight is going to be rescheduled again,


https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-catterall-rematch-pushed-back-from-february-4-date-tbd-february-march--170949

There's a lot of speculation as why the fight is going to be resched again, someone commented to give time for Taylor to make weight hehehe. But it could be true, maybe Taylor's body is having difficult time to make 140 lbs anymore and it could be one factor that he almost lost to Jack the first time.

That might be the case but I don't really think that there is a point for him to hide his strength or power right now as he is looking for more future fights. Hiding his power will give him less opportunities because people won't hype him that much because they will think that Loma's already an old news and there's nothing to expect from him anymore.

It will be much better for him to show what he is made of really because that will send a message and people will start calling a fight with the heavy names in the same division as Loma's like Haney or Tank or the nearest belt contender to replace them. Just maybe though, maybe he is not the Loma we've known now.

Money wise, Haney should take this fight instead of moving up. I mean, knowing how fans are eager to see Loma challenging the belt holder, for sure it can easily be sold to all those fans who are waiting for this fight to take place. Though it's still Haney's camp to decide whether to negotiate and sign this mandatory fight or to move up and find another alternative to avoid fighting.

All will be decided when both camps signed the deal and the promoters start to market the fight between these two top fighters.

Maybe it's the ring rust and of course, his mindset isn't 100% due to the war. Also, Vassily Lomachenko is already in his mid-30s, his IQ is still there but his physical abilities is starting to decline and he isn't the guy that has 1 punch KO that scares opponents. Maybe Loma is saving some of his techniques so Haney cannot figure it out. Haney won't duck Loma because it is the WBO mandatory unless he is moving up in weight which might be an option since he did struggle in weight during his rematch with Kambosos. 

I really don't expect much from Vasiliy Lomachenko that much and even though the fight did not end viciously I really  think he doesn't need to do something like that or maybe he is hiding what he can truly do with Ortiz so some opponent will not evade him to fight I really think some boxer will not really play his ace card inside the ring or I may be wrong or he isn't really vicious enough,


Yup! it was really frustrating and all the promoters of that event say that Casimero really did a Rabbit punch upon reviewing the video, they all know that Casimero is pretty much dominated the whole fight, but they surely think of throwing the towel off Akaho because he can not get up anymore but in doing this pretty much Akaho would also suggest that he had lost the fight but instead the time ended for the 2nd round so the fight was a no contest and the referee announced that it was a punch on the back of the head of Akaho but the promoters don't really know what to do but the judge will be the referee in charge that is why they can not change the given decision towards the fight,

What have to happen many were in disbelief and were really upset about it pretty much many people not only in the Filipino community but other countries have found that Casimero was the one that win that fight, but sad to say the decision can not be changed but because of this incident and upon seeing the boxing record site John Riel Casimero's rating just only increase and Ryo Akaho's rating decreases and many promoters just want Casimero so it is still a win for him,

No doubt about his capabilities in his new division, with what we've seen from that last fight. Casimero really bring the entertainment.
to his fans and all those viewers who supported the fight.

It's just Akaho who kills the enjoyment with how he reacts, that kind of gestures humiliate him in front of all the people who watched the fight.

He should continue and be a real fighter who is ready to do whatever will happen. If he can't hold, then let Casimero win the fight.

I have an interesting news that I want to share

It seems here that Lomachenko has to wait another couple of months before he can have a showdown with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/devin-haney-vs-shakur-stevenson-agree-to-move-lomachenko-to-the-side/

As we all know Shakur just recently declared that he will climb the next division because he cannot shrink his weight anymore to contest a fight on 130 lbs and so up to this date, he haven't got any fights yet in the lightweight division. If this deal will really go through. Shakur will be having a huge leap because he will be fighting the undispute champion directly.

What do you think guys? Will Bob Arum agree put a side a money-fight (Haney-Loma) just because Haney and his camp wanted to fight Stevenson first?

Yes, hopefully the Japanese officials will be looking on this issue because the Akaho-Casimero incident will reflect in their boxing community. It's really quite unfair for Casimero's side, hopefully Akaho will get what he deserved for pulling that kind of stunt. On the bright side, Casimero made an evident message that he is indeed back and healthy. For this one, I expect that he will surface again somewhere early next year and have another fight.

So far I haven't heard any news if the results will be overturn by the South Korean boxing or what.

But it doesn't change everything in our eyes, Akaho just acted that he was hurt and even falling down in the canvass to exaggerate that he was hurt but it seems that he is not. And the good thing is that Casimero is not the one receiving the criticism but his opponent so that is a plus factor for him already. Pound for pound, Casimero is still strong in his new weight class no doubt about it.

And that's the truth behind all that after they looked at the replay slow-mo.
But an official cannot continue a fight if the other boxer is not willing to continue, biased or not he had no choice, acting job or not it should be stopped. Now, all of this will be up to the WBO if they think Akaho is faking it.
It was held in South Korea but it was the Japanese boxing promotion who did it, I just wish they won't intervene in the investigation if ever there is one.

I understand, and maybe we just held up our bars up too high and expect that Loma will be so vicious on his return in the ring. Apart from that, I also expect that he will send a strong message to his future opponents that he is back on business, but I guess we haven't had that impression when he fought against Ortiz.

Anyway, I'm inclined to give him a room for improvement because he just got off from the war and maybe this time will be much more different because there will be a title on the line. Looking forward to see that Loma will fight Haney next.

That is why after the fight Tyson Fury confronted Chisora right away and some talked about their fight while eating Burger, and a sad truth to this is we can see their nearly closed eye of Chisora and multiple damage to the face while Tyson Fury is just chilling and eating his burger, and notable here is that Derek Chisora has said that he will not enjoy the burger because his jaw was really hurt, something many will surely notice that Chisora has sustain much damage than expected and he is lucky that the referee had immediately seen this to stop the fight,

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Crawford vs. Avanesyan

Saturday 12.10.2022
Venue: CHI Health Center
Location: Omaha, Nebraska



MAIN EVENT
WBO World Welterweight Title
Terence Crawford VS David Avanesyan

MAIN CARD
Cris Cyborg VS Gabrielle Holloway
Arnold Khegai VS Eduardo Baez
Steven Nelson VS James Ballard

PRELIMINARY CARD
Edel Gomez VS Joseph Aguilar
Boubacar Sylla VS Javier Mayoral
Robert Rodriguez VS Jose Lopez

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It's pro Japanese because obviously it was held in their country, he give Akaho everything, like the rest, and that early knockdown which should not be called.

However, there is no 'hit behind the back' punch, it just grazed Akaho. Akaho doesn't want to fight Casimero simply as that. He felt Casimero's power and doesn't want none of that in his face and knock him down in his career.

Not sure if they will over turn the rule here.

It is obvious that the referee favors Akaho. The referee declared an illegal shot and halt the fight when he saw that Akaho is hurt and is in trouble, even gave Akaho time to rest and eventually consult the officiating body, and declared the fight as no contest.  While if we look earlier of that round,  the referee called a knockdown on Casimero when it is clear that the punch landed at the back of the head.  The referee doesn't call the punch illegal, don't give Casimero a rest, and even called it a knockdown.  If we think of it, that pretty much tell where the referee sided.

The stoppage I think is great probably saved Akaho from possible severe injury.  Life is way more than any entertainment in sport but the decision of no contest is plain robbery.  Since the controversial non-contest result is  being reviewed by the higher ups, I hope they change the decision in favor of Casimero.

Just sad to see Casimero given this verdict because he had prepared for this fight for months and put all his efforts to get his name through the ranks in the super bantamweight. All those efforts and time just to fight a selfish boxer who haven't had the face to admit that he lost the fight because Casimero is too good for him. I bet he is now heavily criticized in Japan because of the move he made.

A fan who had a good point on their recent fight, we all have the same view about what happened and I'd say that Casimero was really robbed of his win just because Ryo Akaho's unprofessionalism. A warning is the correct verdict at first because if we look closely, it wasn't a direct hit nor did Casimero intentionally did that and the referee should thought about it well before he declared the fight as a "no contest".

it was visible that tyson fury dominated the fight from the beginning of the fight until the end of the fight, he was breaking Chisora, in the seventh round it was visible that chisora's right eye was closing and his mouth was cut but despite the warning from the referee chisora didn't give up and was stubborn to continue the fight, but with nine seconds of the tenth round the referee ended the fight that looked more like a massacre against chisora, now we'll see if the champion will face Oleksandr Usyk