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September 29, 2022, 10:03:19 AM
After a long wait, finally, we could now our beloved "Angas ng Pinas" fighting back as he said he will be fighting Ryo Akaho on December 3,2022 in Japan but no confirmation yet from the promoter but I think he can be trusted on this one. So, it's official that he will be moving up in weight as they will be fighting at the super bantamweight division and I think Inoue will be watching this one as it will happen in his country.

See below youtube link for more info.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzbNNPKVM7A&ab_channel=PowcastSports
Since bantamweight are dominated by Inoue, this is why Casimero move to the next weight in order to avoid him. But I think sooner or later Casimero will face Inoue since Inoue will move to super bantamweight after he's become undisputed champion on bantamweight. I don't know it's a good choice by Casimero to increase his weight, if he's decrease his weight and just stay on super flyweight, he will be safer.
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September 29, 2022, 09:14:23 AM
I think we will see Pacquaio doing the same exhibition match with small twist like the profits for charity and other thing to help his people. But I guess he will have to make some money as well. So just imagine fighting in less than the usual 12 rounds and brutal fighting in professional fight, you can earn the same or even higher in an exhibition match. So it's logical and make sense for Mannny and obviously, he will do that because he has a schedule with some Youtuber from South Korea and his former sparring partner in the Middle East also slated. And maybe go to Japan and fight too for bigger purse and money.
Yeah, he's got already two matches line up and those are the very reasons why he has accepted those fights. Main reason for him is about the charity purposes and there's already a beneficiary for that.

But it's not already a secret that him and the others who are doing such fights have their share too. Take it the example of Floyd Mayweather, he's already retired in the pro boxing but not in the entire boxing as he's open into exhibition matches.

I guess these two living legends are going to live their lives fighting for the proposed exhibition matches on them.
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September 29, 2022, 08:20:13 AM
After a long wait, finally, we could now our beloved "Angas ng Pinas" fighting back as he said he will be fighting Ryo Akaho on December 3,2022 in Japan but no confirmation yet from the promoter but I think he can be trusted on this one. So, it's official that he will be moving up in weight as they will be fighting at the super bantamweight division and I think Inoue will be watching this one as it will happen in his country.

See below youtube link for more info.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzbNNPKVM7A&ab_channel=PowcastSports

It looks like Casimero's opponent isn't a pushover.  Having 43 professional fights with only 2 defeats and 2 draws with 26 KOs.  It is an interesting match for Casimero for his 1st fight (if I am not mistaken) on the Super Bantamweight Division.  

I think we will see Pacquaio doing the same exhibition match with small twist like the profits for charity and other thing to help his people. But I guess he will have to make some money as well. So just imagine fighting in less than the usual 12 rounds and brutal fighting in professional fight, you can earn the same or even higher in an exhibition match. So it's logical and make sense for Mannny and obviously, he will do that because he has a schedule with some Youtuber from South Korea and his former sparring partner in the Middle East also slated. And maybe go to Japan and fight too for bigger purse and money.

Isn't Manny have a scheduled exhibition fight against Korean Youtuber DK Yoo?  It was written in this article[1] that Manny's Pacquiao next fight is confirmed on Dec. 11.  Here is an invitation statement of Manny Pacquiao for their fight on Dec. 11.


It's make sense if Mayweather want to fight against Silva, but for Francis Ngannou, Kamaru Usman and Israel Adesanya? Grin that's really a big joke for me. They're a champion in their own weight except Usman that has beaten by Edwards few weeks ago, of course they wouldn't want to ruin their reputation and name because of money. Only a weak or unknown fighter will agree to take exhibition fight against an old popular person, this because they're willing to lose only to get huge pay check.

I think the feeling is mutual for Anderson to look and fight Mayweather in the future. But again, it will go down as how financially this fight is going to be. Both are legends in their own right, but Floyd is really making easy money fighting Japanese fighters that are not even in his level. So if ever Floyd will fight another ex-MMA, I think he will still look for Conor as this is the best lucrative fight for him and Conor himself. Anderson might have to fall in line to fight Floyd in exhibitions match.

It would be a one-sided fight and will surely bring lots of money to Mayweather especially if Anderson Silva will win his coming match against Jake Paul.


[1] https://asianmma.com/manny-pacquiaos-next-fight-confirmed-for-december-11th/
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September 29, 2022, 07:57:56 AM
After a long wait, finally, we could now our beloved "Angas ng Pinas" fighting back as he said he will be fighting Ryo Akaho on December 3,2022 in Japan but no confirmation yet from the promoter but I think he can be trusted on this one. So, it's official that he will be moving up in weight as they will be fighting at the super bantamweight division and I think Inoue will be watching this one as it will happen in his country.

See below youtube link for more info.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzbNNPKVM7A&ab_channel=PowcastSports
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September 28, 2022, 10:09:53 AM
Floyd won another exhibition match in Japan,

I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Damn, 20 - 30 million is a dream money fight for some of the elite boxers that we have right now, Canelo is still the cash cow, but GGG get around that money fighting him. So just imagine those lower weight class champion, I doubt that they can get around how much Floyd is making in exhibition fight in like 6 minutes.
I'm also curious though if the organizers can really get more than what they gave? $30 Million is already a huge money, a money that a lower weight class champion cannot even earn in a year.

They'll get more if they sold more tickets.
Regardless though, these organizers will not pursue exhibition matches if they don't get a handsome profit from it. May it be they get more than what the boxer gets or the other way around, they are still earning millions.
Put Mayweather or Pacquiao or anyone who's retired and formerly dominates in any combat sports in the ring for an exhibition match, and we can easily tell it's a guaranteed money.

Logically right! Promoters will not spend time and effort just to pay the fighter's check but for making decent money,
they continue to bring exhibition fights to earn as simple as that.

Look how Mayweather collecting easy money from those fights that he made, and now,
we will see also Pacquiao doing his own versions of exhibition.

Maybe the difference is Pacquiao announces that the profits will go to the chosen charity while for Mayweather every
sweat means a huge amount of dollars.

I think we will see Pacquaio doing the same exhibition match with small twist like the profits for charity and other thing to help his people. But I guess he will have to make some money as well. So just imagine fighting in less than the usual 12 rounds and brutal fighting in professional fight, you can earn the same or even higher in an exhibition match. So it's logical and make sense for Mannny and obviously, he will do that because he has a schedule with some Youtuber from South Korea and his former sparring partner in the Middle East also slated. And maybe go to Japan and fight too for bigger purse and money.
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September 28, 2022, 07:51:35 AM

Bad timing for Floyd, as it's monsoon season here so probably Naruto is hiding somewhere. Probably it's better for Floyd to hunt Godzilla if he wants challenge.  Grin

Hahaha, it will be harder to find Naruto with the current weather condition, though maybe he's trying to cook something after meeting Pacman in japan and made that press con maybe they are doing something behind, or maybe just an ordinary trip to relax and enjoy his winning money. It will be nice to hear if rumors will be hyped with a possibility of him and Pacquiao in an exhibition fight.

If that will happen it will gain more attentions and more ticket sales, just saying!

We never know until something come up and announces the potential possibilities of this, just going to wait for any update.
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September 28, 2022, 06:52:47 AM
I know Japan is a very rich country too. Japan is the third biggest economy in the world after the US and China. But I'm still wondering how they are willing to pay $20 million dollars just to see Mayweather facing a non-boxer. Or the Japanese just had a different taste when it comes to sports. I heard Rizin is very popular there and they also had superstars just like K1 before and they are paid well.

They probably very rich as they can afford Floyd, but I posted earlier about the speculation that the money or at least Rizin's head is tied up with Japanese Yakuza.

On the other hand, yesterday I read a line that Mayweather had a done deal with Connor McGregor. Must be a hoax, but not surprising considering how these athletes talk and hype themselves.

Probably just a click bait article.

By the way, Floyd Mayweather is currently in the Philippines. He must be looking for Naruto after dispatching Sakura.

Bad timing for Floyd, as it's monsoon season here so probably Naruto is hiding somewhere. Probably it's better for Floyd to hunt Godzilla if he wants challenge.  Grin
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September 28, 2022, 06:49:19 AM
I know Japan is a very rich country too. Japan is the third biggest economy in the world after the US and China. But I'm still wondering how they are willing to pay $20 million dollars just to see Mayweather facing a non-boxer. Or the Japanese just had a different taste when it comes to sports. I heard Rizin is very popular there and they also had superstars just like K1 before and they are paid well.

On the other hand, yesterday I read a line that Mayweather had a done deal with Connor McGregor. Must be a hoax, but not surprising considering how these athletes talk and hype themselves.

By the way, Floyd Mayweather is currently in the Philippines. He must be looking for Naruto after dispatching Sakura.
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September 28, 2022, 06:04:10 AM
Anderson Silva is another easy money for Floyd Mayweather. That guy is old. He only won over Julio Chavez Jr. because the kid is having tons of issues with his life. With a referee like Kenny Bayless, even Francis Ngannou is easy money for Floyd Mayweather in a 12 round boxing match. MMA fighters with good boxing and have the energy to survive the whole 12 rounds are Kamaru Usman and Israel Adesanya. But Floyd Mayweahter is a very smart businessman, he won't fight Adesanya given his height, reach, average boxing skills and stamina. 
It's make sense if Mayweather want to fight against Silva, but for Francis Ngannou, Kamaru Usman and Israel Adesanya? Grin that's really a big joke for me. They're a champion in their own weight except Usman that has beaten by Edwards few weeks ago, of course they wouldn't want to ruin their reputation and name because of money. Only a weak or unknown fighter will agree to take exhibition fight against an old popular person, this because they're willing to lose only to get huge pay check.

I think the feeling is mutual for Anderson to look and fight Mayweather in the future. But again, it will go down as how financially this fight is going to be. Both are legends in their own right, but Floyd is really making easy money fighting Japanese fighters that are not even in his level. So if ever Floyd will fight another ex-MMA, I think he will still look for Conor as this is the best lucrative fight for him and Conor himself. Anderson might have to fall in line to fight Floyd in exhibitions match.
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September 28, 2022, 05:42:39 AM
Floyd won another exhibition match in Japan,

I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Damn, 20 - 30 million is a dream money fight for some of the elite boxers that we have right now, Canelo is still the cash cow, but GGG get around that money fighting him. So just imagine those lower weight class champion, I doubt that they can get around how much Floyd is making in exhibition fight in like 6 minutes.
I'm also curious though if the organizers can really get more than what they gave? $30 Million is already a huge money, a money that a lower weight class champion cannot even earn in a year.

They'll get more if they sold more tickets.
Regardless though, these organizers will not pursue exhibition matches if they don't get a handsome profit from it. May it be they get more than what the boxer gets or the other way around, they are still earning millions.
Put Mayweather or Pacquiao or anyone who's retired and formerly dominates in any combat sports in the ring for an exhibition match, and we can easily tell it's a guaranteed money.

Logically right! Promoters will not spend time and effort just to pay the fighter's check but for making decent money,
they continue to bring exhibition fights to earn as simple as that.

Look how Mayweather collecting easy money from those fights that he made, and now,
we will see also Pacquiao doing his own versions of exhibition.

Maybe the difference is Pacquiao announces that the profits will go to the chosen charity while for Mayweather every
sweat means a huge amount of dollars.

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September 28, 2022, 04:05:19 AM
Anderson Silva is another easy money for Floyd Mayweather. That guy is old. He only won over Julio Chavez Jr. because the kid is having tons of issues with his life. With a referee like Kenny Bayless, even Francis Ngannou is easy money for Floyd Mayweather in a 12 round boxing match. MMA fighters with good boxing and have the energy to survive the whole 12 rounds are Kamaru Usman and Israel Adesanya. But Floyd Mayweahter is a very smart businessman, he won't fight Adesanya given his height, reach, average boxing skills and stamina. 
It's make sense if Mayweather want to fight against Silva, but for Francis Ngannou, Kamaru Usman and Israel Adesanya? Grin that's really a big joke for me. They're a champion in their own weight except Usman that has beaten by Edwards few weeks ago, of course they wouldn't want to ruin their reputation and name because of money. Only a weak or unknown fighter will agree to take exhibition fight against an old popular person, this because they're willing to lose only to get huge pay check.
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September 28, 2022, 03:41:24 AM
Floyd won another exhibition match in Japan,

I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Damn, 20 - 30 million is a dream money fight for some of the elite boxers that we have right now, Canelo is still the cash cow, but GGG get around that money fighting him. So just imagine those lower weight class champion, I doubt that they can get around how much Floyd is making in exhibition fight in like 6 minutes.
I'm also curious though if the organizers can really get more than what they gave? $30 Million is already a huge money, a money that a lower weight class champion cannot even earn in a year.

They'll get more if they sold more tickets.
Regardless though, these organizers will not pursue exhibition matches if they don't get a handsome profit from it. May it be they get more than what the boxer gets or the other way around, they are still earning millions.
Put Mayweather or Pacquiao or anyone who's retired and formerly dominates in any combat sports in the ring for an exhibition match, and we can easily tell it's a guaranteed money.
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September 28, 2022, 02:26:32 AM

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In his statement, it's safe to assume that he won't put his belt on the line again and won't be taking fights that will get him hurt. In other words, all of the fight he'll making is already a guaranteed in his part. He is just taking advantage of the situation while he is still famous.

Floyd Mayweather will keep on doing this until he can not anymore, but he is taking fights likely to his advantage, if it is not a legit boxer, I think MMA fighters could have a chance of winning against him if that MMA fighter had the background in doing it, and for me, Anderson Silva is the MMA/boxer that I want Mayweather to fight,

Anderson Silva is another easy money for Floyd Mayweather. That guy is old. He only won over Julio Chavez Jr. because the kid is having tons of issues with his life. With a referee like Kenny Bayless, even Francis Ngannou is easy money for Floyd Mayweather in a 12 round boxing match. MMA fighters with good boxing and have the energy to survive the whole 12 rounds are Kamaru Usman and Israel Adesanya. But Floyd Mayweahter is a very smart businessman, he won't fight Adesanya given his height, reach, average boxing skills and stamina. 
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September 28, 2022, 12:22:05 AM

Nothing to oppose, as you mentioned it right. Mayweather's advantage is by far. Boxing rules and the trainings even Asakura extend his effort trying to learn and make things happen for him in front of his home crowd, Its still the experienced of Mayweather that rise high, the chance is really slim beating an undefeated legend especially if he's the one who's dictating the fight much better to say the one who choose his opponent for an easy money making exhibition fight.

After this, we will see him again fighting another personality that will give him more dollars, the Dubai venue is ideal for money making fights, knowing the locals are wealthy and capable of buying tickets and watch the fight.

Yup! I agree, and Mikuru Asakura also flew from Japan to the Philippines, for boxing tips against Mayweather, to the 8 division Champion Manny Pacquiao, I surely salute his dedication to his craft, but I guess because of the tips Pacman gave him he has shown a great fight towards Floyd Mayweather because despite the great defense of Floyd Mayweather he has gotten solid punch on Mayweather, but because Mayweather has more experience than Asakura when it comes to boxing, and that later gap has shown when Mayweather got an opportunity on Asakura and caught him that knock him out,

Next for Floyd Mayweather, is a Youtuber, retired or active MMA fighter, but not a legit legendary boxer, that could cost him his precious money and an injury that could ruin his career, he is out there to enjoy and make money,


I guess that's just one of the perks that a famous boxer could enjoy in their retirement years, $30 Million is already a guaranteed money because there's almost no way that his foe will defeat him in an exhibition fight especially the fight have took place in the ring where he is the dominant. I'm also curious though if the organizers can really get more than what they gave? $30 Million is already a huge money, a money that a lower weight class champion cannot even earn in a year.

That is why Floyd Mayweather is continuously accepting exhibition fights while he still can he surely wants  to rack up that money until he can not fight anymore, I truly love his mindset, so if he can not do these exhibition fights anymore he can surely live a comfortable and secure life, and money is so much tastier if it comes from your own hard work, Consistently he could rack up millions of dollar in just his exhibition fights,


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In his statement, it's safe to assume that he won't put his belt on the line again and won't be taking fights that will get him hurt. In other words, all of the fight he'll making is already a guaranteed in his part. He is just taking advantage of the situation while he is still famous.

Floyd Mayweather will keep on doing this until he can not anymore, but he is taking fights likely to his advantage, if it is not a legit boxer, I think MMA fighters could have a chance of winning against him if that MMA fighter had the background in doing it, and for me, Anderson Silva is the MMA/boxer that I want Mayweather to fight,
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September 27, 2022, 05:19:31 PM
Floyd is just enjoying his life with all of these part time huge pay checks that he's getting. Well, whoever are the organizers behind it, they've got budget for it and for sure it's all about bigger marketing that they've set for it.
Everybody now wants to be Floyd on how he makes money and enjoying the fame that he's got. But, I've watched a video of him on how he's serious with his business and matches like this is part of it so, he's just working hard.

Also, if they are not giving a good returns, they should have stop during the first exhibition fight of Floyd in Japan. And it's better though if we will se the number of live gates or if this is PPV televised not just in Japan or somewhere else. So that we can gauge how big the fight is and speculated on how much Rizin company is making.

Because it's seems to be bigger than a fight in the UK or US with promotions like Top Rank and Matchroom.
I'm not sure with the details, maybe you can dig on that part if ever it's available on the web. Well, if it's not going to give good return then the organizer didn't pushed for it.
But it seems that it's successful just like any other showmatches that has been with Floyd. And every time that Floyd is involved, there have been a lot of money flowing not just for him but also for the organizers and are part of the fights where he's the main event for the show match.
We'll see more again that will invite him to go to their respective countries just for a showmatch.
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September 27, 2022, 05:08:29 PM
I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Sometimes I ask myself, could this be possible if Japan mafia uses such fight for money laundering. I mean it is obvious that Floyd would win and his opponent is a complete mismatch. Paying such huge rewards for few minutes sparring? I bet Floyd did not even train for that fight.
Floyd is just enjoying his life with all of these part time huge pay checks that he's getting. Well, whoever are the organizers behind it, they've got budget for it and for sure it's all about bigger marketing that they've set for it.
Everybody now wants to be Floyd on how he makes money and enjoying the fame that he's got. But, I've watched a video of him on how he's serious with his business and matches like this is part of it so, he's just working hard.

Also, if they are not giving a good returns, they should have stop during the first exhibition fight of Floyd in Japan. And it's better though if we will se the number of live gates or if this is PPV televised not just in Japan or somewhere else. So that we can gauge how big the fight is and speculated on how much Rizin company is making.

Because it's seems to be bigger than a fight in the UK or US with promotions like Top Rank and Matchroom.

let's go back to TopTort's question about using this exhibition fight as money laundering scheme. for me, it is very possible. but we can't say for sure because such activity will be done discretely so it is not a public knowledge. and of course, no one will confirm that this is happening. but the possibility is always there. with tons of money involve, we can't discard such motives.
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September 27, 2022, 05:03:43 PM
I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Sometimes I ask myself, could this be possible if Japan mafia uses such fight for money laundering. I mean it is obvious that Floyd would win and his opponent is a complete mismatch. Paying such huge rewards for few minutes sparring? I bet Floyd did not even train for that fight.
Floyd is just enjoying his life with all of these part time huge pay checks that he's getting. Well, whoever are the organizers behind it, they've got budget for it and for sure it's all about bigger marketing that they've set for it.
Everybody now wants to be Floyd on how he makes money and enjoying the fame that he's got. But, I've watched a video of him on how he's serious with his business and matches like this is part of it so, he's just working hard.

Also, if they are not giving a good returns, they should have stop during the first exhibition fight of Floyd in Japan. And it's better though if we will se the number of live gates or if this is PPV televised not just in Japan or somewhere else. So that we can gauge how big the fight is and speculated on how much Rizin company is making.

Because it's seems to be bigger than a fight in the UK or US with promotions like Top Rank and Matchroom.
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September 27, 2022, 04:55:35 PM
I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Sometimes I ask myself, could this be possible if Japan mafia uses such fight for money laundering. I mean it is obvious that Floyd would win and his opponent is a complete mismatch. Paying such huge rewards for few minutes sparring? I bet Floyd did not even train for that fight.
Floyd is just enjoying his life with all of these part time huge pay checks that he's getting. Well, whoever are the organizers behind it, they've got budget for it and for sure it's all about bigger marketing that they've set for it.
Everybody now wants to be Floyd on how he makes money and enjoying the fame that he's got. But, I've watched a video of him on how he's serious with his business and matches like this is part of it so, he's just working hard.
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September 27, 2022, 04:05:21 PM
Floyd won another exhibition match in Japan,

I have forgotten about that fight, thanks for reminding. Another easy money for Floyd. Google says that Floyd would get 20 millions if he competes and 30 if he wins that fight, and most funny, 1.5 million if he appears on a press conference. Surprisingly, this exhibition fight last more than 1 round.

Damn, 20 - 30 million is a dream money fight for some of the elite boxers that we have right now, Canelo is still the cash cow, but GGG get around that money fighting him. So just imagine those lower weight class champion, I doubt that they can get around how much Floyd is making in exhibition fight in like 6 minutes.

I guess that's just one of the perks that a famous boxer could enjoy in their retirement years, $30 Million is already a guaranteed money because there's almost no way that his foe will defeat him in an exhibition fight especially the fight have took place in the ring where he is the dominant. I'm also curious though if the organizers can really get more than what they gave? $30 Million is already a huge money, a money that a lower weight class champion cannot even earn in a year.

Or even the now the cash cow or at least the biggest fighter which is by the way, another Japanese fighter - Naoya Inoue. Those guys can't even see $1 million every fight.

That is the biggest question, but perhaps they are making money because they can stage fight after fight in Japan with Floyd's name on it. Floyd is really a good businessman, building a relationship with RIZIN and make fights with that huge amount of money even if he is retired from active professional boxing.
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September 27, 2022, 12:05:21 PM
After Mayweather successfully knocked out Mikuru Asakura 2 days ago, what's next? he will have another exhibition fight against Deji Olatunji aka KSI brother Cheesy He's a youtuber and gamer, I think he's following KSI path to make money from boxing. He doesn't have any boxing skills and will easily get knocked out in the first round by Mayweather. The fight will happen on Dubai, UAE on November 13, 2020, Mayweather will gain another big cash flow.

I'm also not sure who is next but probably he will do one last exhibition fight for this year because I've read that Mayweather is planning to get a fight with McGregor for the second time next year and they could have been talking already behind the red curtain. If this happens, I believe it will produce millions worth of revenues just like what happened in their first fight.

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"I am not into fights where I am going to take any real punishment," Mayweather said of his preference for an exhibition. "So, guys like Conor McGregor and guys that don't really hit hard such as YouTubers or UFC guys, I don't really mind colliding with those kinds of individuals but nothing where I am going to put myself in a position where I am going to harm myself or hurt myself."
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In his statement, it's safe to assume that he won't put his belt on the line again and won't be taking fights that will get him hurt. In other words, all of the fight he'll making is already a guaranteed in his part. He is just taking advantage of the situation while he is still famous.
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