Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 221. (Read 31941 times)

I really wish the best for him, I really do, but it is really easier said than done, but after that Naoya Inoue fight I then realize how crazy Naoya Inoue has Improved and it was really a lot to think that their recent fight was really so close, and on the 2nd fight Naoya Inoue has easily defeated Nonito Donaire, I feel that he is not really suited for the Monster I think if he can get the belt on the Flyweight division for me to take dominance on that division then, just fight the money fights but knowing Nonito Donaire he doesn't want to give up and if he wants a 3rd fight with Naoya Inoue then we will surely see the 3rd match between them,


Well, there are no further plans for that fight to come thru, but if many would like to see that fight happen I think some management will likely for that fight to come to fruition but for Casimero, he is aiming to start over because of his actions, and Nonito Donaire would not want his record to be tainted if he fights Casimero, or he doesn't want to take part on John Riel Casimero's FiascoI really think right now these two is more focus on their goals now than with their misunderstandings, so they keep aside their squabbles and for Nonito Donaire, a Flyweight belt to be added and become a 5th division title holder, and for John Riel Casimero he needs to move along because he got a lot to do and work his way up again,

He will go down weight and plans to dominate it. After that, he will return to bantamweight to take a chance again on a title. We are not sure though how many fights he will do in the super flyweight. The time he may consider taking a shot at a bantamweight title, he is already too aged to compete there.

Casimero vs Inoue might not also happen as your wish. They both don't have the title and promoters might see that fight as not profitable to organize. The hype on their names is now gone following the prior event that happened to both of them, Casimero struggling with his weight and being stripped out of his WBO title and Donaire losing a unification match with Inoue within just a 2nd round.

Maybe, Donaire feels that it is not yet time for him to retire, hence, still planning to fight.
Now, I am wondering if the fight of Donaire with Casimero will push thru.
Remember, they have disagreements why they haven't fought?
Anyway, whatever his next plans will be, hope that he can achieve what he wants to achieve before he hang up his gloves.

On Nonito's future plans.

Well, this is perfect.

That's all I want to know and I thought that he would take the sentiment of his fans to just retire after he has lost to Inoue for the 2nd time. Still, he's got his prowess and all of that strength.

Hopefully, if he ever has another match to come he'll be able to redeem himself at least and gets a win.

Well, in my opinion even though he is still the same Nonito Donaire, he never upped in terms of speed and strength, not like Naoya Inoue, I really think Nonito Donaire has reached his ceiling for improvement, there is no room for improvement but Naoya Inoue hasn't reached his limits, and can surely improve even more, but Nonito Donaire can still compete and it is a good choice for him to target the lower division first if he wants another belt in his disposal,


He said that he is not done yet, but he wants another belt to be added to his glory, he is now aiming to go down the 115-lb super-flyweight division, and seek fights with bigger names in that division we can see a Donaire Versus Chocolatito” Gonzalez of Nicaragua or Japan’s reigning WBO super flyweight Kazuto Ioka, either of the 2 if who's ready for Nonito Donaire, then if a fight settles of either of these two then he's going to return for a rematch for the Bantamweight with Naoya Inoue again, but for now, he is aiming to become a 5 division champion,

Yes, but it is also competition for them out there, that model is built not just in boxing but in other sports as well. And it's painful because the fans are not rewarded with good fights that we are supposed to see like Garcia vs Davis. But believed me, if the money is there, this networks will have no choice but to discussed the possibility, and then could make the fight happen fr us. There is pride behind this all network executive, but they can't deny that in order for their company to stay, they have to make this kind of fight for us.

And if I'm not mistaken, when Donaire tried to go up and fight Nicholas Walters, he was badly beaten up. So maybe staying at 118 lbs or even going down is the best way for him if he wanted to stay active. I was just thinking that maybe he is done in 118 lbs, I mean he faces almost everyone and lost to the best. Him entertaining a fight with Ioka and then Gonzalez will be a dream match for us boxing fans. But not sure if he can take both of them in the future, I mean his age will be a big factor in his decision to continue.

Well there is no doubt that it is evident that the business model is above the sport and this is somewhat painful in my opinion, because both should know that the fans are the ones who make all the money possible, and allow the big punters or the whales have freedom on this, but it is completely necessary, at least I think, that this fight can take place this year, the fact that he has to lose weight I do not see as difficult for the boxer, it is only enough that he dedicates himself to do aerobic exercises and you will have results quickly, this is something that every boxer should do not only for the weight but to have enough resistance.

I hope that the sponsors manage to do something positive and the fight takes place, and that this time the sport is the one that stands out.

Who would want to see a rigged fight, yeah? I hope that this will be the kind of fight that Teo Lopez will receive a warm welcome in the super lightweight where he will be forced to bring his best rather than just looking at this fight as a tune-up for him. I'd say he wouldn't get far if he thinks like that because he will find himself in the same situation where he lost against Kambosos but this time against another opponent in this division.

I think that's what his target, to be come a 5x division champion and only few exceptional boxers have accomplished that. But then again, just the question on how he can make the limit.


122 is pretty much stack up, and he might not live into this division today.

Maybe he is going after the money, or more on his legacy, or he simply can't quit because he still feels he can win another championship belt. He can also start his own gym and yes, for sure he could be a good trainer. We have seen ex boxer becoming trainers.

Nonito continuing his career? is it in the same division? I mean, he cannot beat the champion, so why would he still stay? Maybe he still looking for some extra money before finally deciding to retire. Or maybe before he retires he could fight Casimero, I think that would be a great fight.

Nonito's future plan or Inoue? As far as Nonito, well we have seen the latest update, he wants to continue with his career.

For Inoue, we are hearing that he might go for the unification fight with Paul Butler. It will be huge if the fight is going to happen in UK. But not sure if Inoue will be comfortable, it might be better if the fight is in the US. So that his fans are going to see him and of course makes a name for himself in the US household. Arum knows how to hype him in the States.

I agree that he's still the Nonito that we've used to watch but with his fight with Inoue, it is the reality that Inoue is better than him in many aspects which includes the speed.

Where can we read his future plans?

Many agrees that it's time for him to retire and let the younger generation and aspiring ones to excel with his help as a trainor.

No mate. Nonito Donaire is still quick and fast even at his age but it's just that Naoya Inoue is just quicker and too much for him. Believe me, Donaire can still KO and defeat other boxers in the bantamweight division. Inoue is just on another level and he is a monster in that division.

But we can't hide the fact that it might be too late to regain his position on bantamweight where his plan is to make some winnings first on a much lower level division. Even if he will be successful in the lower division, he might enter the bantamweight division obviously at a much older age.

And for let's say he managed to defeat those other bantamweights once he stepped up at that old age, I'm not sure if he can still repeat the achievement he done before fighting Inoue which is the oldest fighter to achieve a world title.

Maybe just making money as he feels he can still fight. Not a wrong move though before hanging his gloves.

They really underestimated Pedro Campa in my opinion and the guy is no pushover, Teofimo Lopez should not think that this is a fight he can win easily because in my thoughts I think it is not, moreover Pedro Campa pretty much has the experience in fighting on that division so Teofimo Lopez better not think that this is just a walk in the park kind of fight,

Well, if this is a rigged fight then I think I will be eluding in betting for it, and right now if we look at the stake odds it is not very profitable to bet for Teofimo Lopez but for Pedro Campa, it is really tempting to risk because the odds on stake are 1.04 for Lopez while 10.00 for Campa


Well, it can really go the other way around but it will be on the management decision if they will continue a fight like that, but we are just wishful thinking for a certain fight like that to happen, and because we are just speculating, all we can do right now is just wait and hope, because I also want a Naoya Inoue VS Stephen Fulton if it's possible,


That is good news if he's not planning on retiring yet, but against a Naoya Inoue that is now in his prime, we can say that Nonito Donaire is already depleting, because of his age, and he can not compete anymore with higher boxers in my opinion, but maybe we can be surprised with his return to the 118 once again, but who know all we can do is anticipate and wait,

I think he still has the speed and power in the 115 lbs if ever he moves, just a question on how "safe" it will be for a fighter of his age to simply drop that 3 lbs off. If he can get a decent team, in his corner to manage everything, from the food intake maybe he can still make 115 lbs. But it will be a big risk for him taking another legend in Roman because Chocolatito has power and same with Ioka. It could be a brutal fight, specially Chocolatito he has been in wars with Estrada and know how to fight thru 12 extremely tiring rounds. How about Nonito? we haven't seen fights of his going to the distance. So it's going to be a question on stamina for him at super flyweight.

maybe, he still feels that he has still some juice on this sports. so let him be, he will be the one who will retire from this sports if he knows, he's done with it. some boxers really do continue to fight not because of the money but because of the passion they have for this sports, and it hurts them thinking that they will retire and leave the sports that they live and breathe.

He already slowed down, his reactions to his fights against Inoue have shown it.  He may have a power advantage if he goes down in weight division but the question is, Is he fast enough to connect them?  I really admire Donaire but I have seen he is past his prime and most of his opponent is currently in their prime.  Besides, wouldn't it put a strain on his body if he will lose weight past his regular weight limit?

Nonito Donaire is undoubtedly a good boxer who can still give a hard time to any boxer he would face in his weight categories even if he's moving down but I can say that he is fighting now out of his ego because he cannot really retire with a defeat in his pro-boxing record. I'd say that he will likely retire 1-2 years from now with a belt.

We cannot say for sure, maybe he's right too because he still had that same confidence that he can still win fights despite his age now. We saw in his latest performance that he wasn't the flash we knew anymore and the speed and power difference between him and Inoue becomes wider. Maybe he can regain some losses in the super flyweight and then retire after a win, let's see.