The promoters might give GGG his trilogy against Canelo only if he gets the victory versus Murata dominantly and convincingly.
If that's the case then I would already expect a GGG vs Canelo Trilogy as there's no way GGG would lose to Murata. Sorry Murata Fans, I just don't see your fighter powerful enough to beat GGG, he maybe older but the power is still there and I'm afraid that we might see a KO win by GGG. 
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You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Canelo is just 31 years old so we can take that factor that he's on prime. It's an advantage over a 40-year-old GGG. If Murata will defeat GGG, non-sense to fight now with Canelo if he can't handle the types of Murata, how can he defeat Canelo which is currently powerful at this stage?
GGG will be tested by Murata. It can also be considered as his training before facing the stronger Canelo.
We all like to see the trilogy. GGG has to pass Murata if he really likes the third fight with Canelo.
Agreed. It is also head shaking that boxing fans want to witness a trilogy for Canelo and GGG. This Canelo of today would knockout the GGG of today in 7 rounds that everyone might say that it was unfair for the promoters to give GGG to Canelo hehehe. Compare the improvements of each boxer and decide. I reckon it is Canelo who has been challenging himself for his legacy.
However, would the trilogy be good for Canelo? What would this offer him? I reckon if GGG wins one of the other championships in light heavyweight division, this might tempt Canelo to fight him again. If GGG has nothing to offer except the past, Canelo will not fight anyone after Bivol except the other champions in light heavyweight division to secure his legacy. He is 31 years old, he will not waste his time on GGG.
If GGG wins against the Japanese boxer then Canelo would be more obliged to fight him as it was included in the deal that he signed in the previous month. If that's what Canelo is thinking that fighting GGG again is nonsense as the latter have nothing to offer, then maybe he should have given GGG the chance of a trilogy few years ago when GGG is still younger and still a threat in his career.
It's not that Canelo have a chance on hanging GGG on a thread again because as I said he already signed the deal. He better pray that GGG would be defeated against Murata so that a trilogy is not possible anymore.
@Distinctin. The promoters might give GGG his trilogy against Canelo only if he gets the victory versus Murata dominantly and convincingly. I am quite certain Canelo will not agree with GGG on anything if GGG wins with a close decision against the Japanese fighter. I reckon it might be a close decision because GGG is old. He will be 40 years old on the day of the fight. Murata is also taller with a reach advantage of 2 inches and he is also younger. The fight will also be in Japan. I will not be shocked if the corrupt judges will give this a split decision for Murata.
There is so much excitement between the rematch of GGG and Canelo because GGG was one of Canelo's very few opponents who made Canelo look like a normal boxer. GGG was himself a brilliant boxer who could have won his fight against Canelo had the match been judged by a different set of judges.
According to most boxing analysts, it's only GGG who made Canelo show his very best and push him to the limit. That's why there's a question on whether Canelo really won that 1 draw and 1 win. Looks like the only thing that can be settled properly is thru Knock Out win by either of them.
The 1st match is DRAW on which Canelo claimed he won that fight. It leads to a second meetup and Canelo wins in Decision. GGG never contest the result but others see he won that match.
This trilogy will now put an end to the debate whether who wins. It's a fight that needs to happen this year.
The only way we would stop this conversation is if they will have a trilogy and there will be a knockout. Because if it would still go to the judges scorecards and the fight is close, people would still not stop speculating.
Sooner, GGG will hang his gloves, so it's nice to give him one last fight that is really a big fight.
However, if he wins, his plans might change in the future.
What many of us do not want is for GGG to leave or say goodbye to the sport without having the fight with Canelo, it will be tasteless if he does, I think we are all clear on this, but the truth is that this moves thanks to a large amount of money, both Canelo and GGG want to fight other boxers to raise more money and produce more emotions, and perhaps they are achieving it, because in every thread I see about boxing what they most seek or talk about is this possible encounter between These two titans, I think they should stop looking for so much business model and agree to give that gift to all the fans.
Certainly mate, GGG deserved to have that trilogy and he's been calling for it for years. Good thing his callings was answered before he decides to hang up his gloves because we already know that GGG have just 2-3 years max left in his beloved industry even if we don't want to say our goodbyes to him. I hope he will get some big and good fight before that happens.
You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Canelo is just 31 years old so we can take that factor that he's on prime. It's an advantage over a 40-year-old GGG. If Murata will defeat GGG, non-sense to fight now with Canelo if he can't handle the types of Murata, how can he defeat Canelo which is currently powerful at this stage?
GGG will be tested by Murata. It can also be considered as his training before facing the stronger Canelo.
We all like to see the trilogy. GGG has to pass Murata if he really likes the third fight with Canelo.
Agreed. It is also head shaking that boxing fans want to witness a trilogy for Canelo and GGG. This Canelo of today would knockout the GGG of today in 7 rounds that everyone might say that it was unfair for the promoters to give GGG to Canelo hehehe. Compare the improvements of each boxer and decide. I reckon it is Canelo who has been challenging himself for his legacy.
However, would the trilogy be good for Canelo? What would this offer him? I reckon if GGG wins one of the other championships in light heavyweight division, this might tempt Canelo to fight him again. If GGG has nothing to offer except the past, Canelo will not fight anyone after Bivol except the other champions in light heavyweight division to secure his legacy. He is 31 years old, he will not waste his time on GGG.
There is so much excitement between the rematch of GGG and Canelo because GGG was one of Canelo's very few opponents who made Canelo look like a normal boxer. GGG was himself a brilliant boxer who could have won his fight against Canelo had the match been judged by a different set of judges.
According to most boxing analysts, it's only GGG who made Canelo show his very best and push him to the limit. That's why there's a question on whether Canelo really won that 1 draw and 1 win. Looks like the only thing that can be settled properly is thru Knock Out win by either of them.
The 1st match is DRAW on which Canelo claimed he won that fight. It leads to a second meetup and Canelo wins in Decision. GGG never contest the result but others see he won that match.
This trilogy will now put an end to the debate whether who wins. It's a fight that needs to happen this year.
The only way we would stop this conversation is if they will have a trilogy and there will be a knockout. Because if it would still go to the judges scorecards and the fight is close, people would still not stop speculating.
Sooner, GGG will hang his gloves, so it's nice to give him one last fight that is really a big fight.
However, if he wins, his plans might change in the future.
What many of us do not want is for GGG to leave or say goodbye to the sport without having the fight with Canelo, it will be tasteless if he does, I think we are all clear on this, but the truth is that this moves thanks to a large amount of money, both Canelo and GGG want to fight other boxers to raise more money and produce more emotions, and perhaps they are achieving it, because in every thread I see about boxing what they most seek or talk about is this possible encounter between These two titans, I think they should stop looking for so much business model and agree to give that gift to all the fans.
We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.
probably the rematch will not happen IMO since donaire sides seems very quiet after he lost the fight and mostly information around the internet are seems all speculation.But when it comes CASIMERO for sure it will going to happen this year because he really wants to test the monster of japan but as the news says it will gonna happen after Aran Dipaen..
The rematch is more likely to happen than the Casimero vs Inoue fight, remember that Inoue has said that he's been looking forward to fight and return in the ring this June so we might get some news soon on who's the one that he will fight that month and the chances are it is Donaire.
Casimero will have a fight next month, so I doubt that Inoue is referring for him after all.
The best boxer who fighting not only became a greatest boxer at the time of he retired.He will also used as the new coach to their country.Only the sports person had this capability to do work after his/her retirement.Not even a big shots do this.After earning billions,the businessman take rest.So I love all the sportsman and so it’s called as sportsman spirit.
Not sure if the following would be opt here but would like to share it. Yah I too have seen the top players (irrespective of any sports) as a coach or a mentor when they turn old. Even the governments give chances to be on the respective sports main board to discuss, support and etc. Their inputs are valued. At times they even start up their own sports foundations where young players are trained and grown up. Players make players. Their sacrifice and dedication must be awarded constantly.
The best boxer who fighting not only became a greatest boxer at the time of he retired.He will also used as the new coach to their country.Only the sports person had this capability to do work after his/her retirement.Not even a big shots do this.After earning billions,the businessman take rest.So I love all the sportsman and so it’s called as sportsman spirit.
He has accomplished a lot already and could surpassed Julio Cezar Chaver Sr as the greatest Mexican boxers of all time. He already set the bar high, with his 5 belt and the first Mexican to do so. And then he has a tons of followers as well. For his legacy, this will be the ultimate, to close the book on GGG and win in this trilogy.
There's no doubt that he is one of the legends now and he will be one of the greatest boxers when he retired. Right now he needs to finish Golovkin if he wanted to surpass the greatness of Julio Cezar Chaves because he already has lots of fans and his popularities are way higher than Cezar's because he is fighting in this era. All he needs to have is a great boxing history with a clean record after he beat GGG if they are given a chance to make the fight happen this year.
You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Canelo is just 31 years old so we can take that factor that he's on prime. It's an advantage over a 40-year-old GGG. If Murata will defeat GGG, non-sense to fight now with Canelo if he can't handle the types of Murata, how can he defeat Canelo which is currently powerful at this stage?
GGG will be tested by Murata. It can also be considered as his training before facing the stronger Canelo.
We all like to see the trilogy. GGG has to pass Murata if he really likes the third fight with Canelo.
Agreed. It is also head shaking that boxing fans want to witness a trilogy for Canelo and GGG. This Canelo of today would knockout the GGG of today in 7 rounds that everyone might say that it was unfair for the promoters to give GGG to Canelo hehehe. Compare the improvements of each boxer and decide. I reckon it is Canelo who has been challenging himself for his legacy.
You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Canelo is just 31 years old so we can take that factor that he's on prime. It's an advantage over a 40-year-old GGG. If Murata will defeat GGG, non-sense to fight now with Canelo if he can't handle the types of Murata, how can he defeat Canelo which is currently powerful at this stage?
GGG will be tested by Murata. It can also be considered as his training before facing the stronger Canelo.
We all like to see the trilogy. GGG has to pass Murata if he really likes the third fight with Canelo.
Indeed mate, Canelo is currently on his prime and his flames are still burning on its maximum volume. So, GGG here have to figure out some way to pass this test against the 4 years younger Murata who is also a decent fighter and we'll see how would he respond to Murata's movement.
But I really do think that GGG will somehow succeed in this fight because he's been calling a trilogy for years now and now that he have it. He couldn't afford to lose in this fight in-order to make that trilogy happen. Although, we can predict that there's some changes on GGG but we will see this April soon about that.
You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Canelo is just 31 years old so we can take that factor that he's on prime. It's an advantage over a 40-year-old GGG. If Murata will defeat GGG, non-sense to fight now with Canelo if he can't handle the types of Murata, how can he defeat Canelo which is currently powerful at this stage?
GGG will be tested by Murata. It can also be considered as his training before facing the stronger Canelo.
We all like to see the trilogy. GGG has to pass Murata if he really likes the third fight with Canelo.
Agreed. It is also head shaking that boxing fans want to witness a trilogy for Canelo and GGG. This Canelo of today would knockout the GGG of today in 7 rounds that everyone might say that it was unfair for the promoters to give GGG to Canelo hehehe. Compare the improvements of each boxer and decide. I reckon it is Canelo who has been challenging himself for his legacy.
There is so much excitement between the rematch of GGG and Canelo because GGG was one of Canelo's very few opponents who made Canelo look like a normal boxer. GGG was himself a brilliant boxer who could have won his fight against Canelo had the match been judged by a different set of judges.
According to most boxing analysts, it's only GGG who made Canelo show his very best and push him to the limit. That's why there's a question on whether Canelo really won that 1 draw and 1 win. Looks like the only thing that can be settled properly is thru Knock Out win by either of them.
The 1st match is DRAW on which Canelo claimed he won that fight. It leads to a second meetup and Canelo wins in Decision. GGG never contest the result but others see he won that match.
This trilogy will now put an end to the debate whether who wins. It's a fight that needs to happen this year.
The only way we would stop this conversation is if they will have a trilogy and there will be a knockout. Because if it would still go to the judges scorecards and the fight is close, people would still not stop speculating.
Sooner, GGG will hang his gloves, so it's nice to give him one last fight that is really a big fight.
However, if he wins, his plans might change in the future.
At this point in their careers, it seems Canelo is in his best of shape. He is at the top of his career. He is in his prime. GGG on the other hand is not anymore. He is on the way down. His age is not on his side anymore. We will be watching him soon how to defeat Murata. Perhaps we could somehow create an idea based on his performance on whether he is still the old GGG that almost defeated Canelo. If he isn't, then a trilogy might not be the best thing to watch. But given that the issue is not yet resolved, better give GGG a chance even if that gives him another loss.
You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Canelo is just 31 years old so we can take that factor that he's on prime. It's an advantage over a 40-year-old GGG. If Murata will defeat GGG, non-sense to fight now with Canelo if he can't handle the types of Murata, how can he defeat Canelo which is currently powerful at this stage?
GGG will be tested by Murata. It can also be considered as his training before facing the stronger Canelo.
We all like to see the trilogy. GGG has to pass Murata if he really likes the third fight with Canelo.
Just seems concerned to GGG here how he can deal with the prime Canelo if he will lose to Murata that is not even in his league.
About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.
About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.
If Golovkin losses to Murata I don't think a fight with Canelo is interesting anymore, a loss with Murata only means that he is fading out and we don't want Canelo beat him to the pulp which Golovkin fans don't want to see if the fight will push through Golovkin should win against Murata even if Canelo loses his bout against Bivol, Bivol is better than Murata as we all can see.
That's why I mentioned how GGG will be able to settle things with the prime GGG if he can't even beat Murata.
But technically speaking, even I want to force myself to believe that Murata can upset GGG, I still can't imagine "HOW". Others are looking at GGG's age as a hindrance but I can't consider that as a disadvantage. Murata on the other hand is now also on post-prime.
We just need to wait then. It's just a few weeks waiting.
You mean prime Canelo? Yes, you have a point. Well, if that happens then it's quite clear that GGG doesn't stand a chance to defeat the current Canelo as he don't got what it takes anymore. So a trilogy will be nonsense to even bother make it happen.
Just like other people and boxing fans, I'm also quite interested to see how will GGG fight this Murata and given his ring IQ and short knowledge about Murata, I think he already figured some way how to defeat the Japanese boxer. For sure everyone is watching him on the day of the fight.
Just seems concerned to GGG here how he can deal with the prime Canelo if he will lose to Murata that is not even in his league.
About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.
About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.
If Golovkin losses to Murata I don't think a fight with Canelo is interesting anymore, a loss with Murata only means that he is fading out and we don't want Canelo beat him to the pulp which Golovkin fans don't want to see if the fight will push through Golovkin should win against Murata even if Canelo loses his bout against Bivol, Bivol is better than Murata as we all can see.
That's why I mentioned how GGG will be able to settle things with the prime GGG if he can't even beat Murata.
But technically speaking, even I want to force myself to believe that Murata can upset GGG, I still can't imagine "HOW". Others are looking at GGG's age as a hindrance but I can't consider that as a disadvantage. Murata on the other hand is now also on post-prime.
We just need to wait then. It's just a few weeks waiting.
We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.
probably the rematch will not happen IMO since donaire sides seems very quiet after he lost the fight and mostly information around the internet are seems all speculation.But when it comes CASIMERO for sure it will going to happen this year because he really wants to test the monster of japan but as the news says it will gonna happen after Aran Dipaen..
I haven't been hearing anything from Donaire as well and no updates about his future fights. I guess he's taking a break from his unfortunate last fight. However, I also don'y doubt that Casimero would grab every opportunity to face opponents with huge names because he seems too eager to prove himself more on the boxing ring.
We can probably see about Inoue vs Casimero soon after the latter is finish to his fight next month against Butler, and the other possibility is a rematch between Inoue and Donaire since the Japanese boxer have said that he's going back this June. Either way, we'll see some news this coming few weeks or next month.
probably the rematch will not happen IMO since donaire sides seems very quiet after he lost the fight and mostly information around the internet are seems all speculation.But when it comes CASIMERO for sure it will going to happen this year because he really wants to test the monster of japan but as the news says it will gonna happen after Aran Dipaen..
^^ I think both has pressure to win their fights, so that this mega fight will happen eventually. So if either one of them losses, as you and the other posters have said, the hype will go down a bit.
So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.
And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.
So its very important to hurdle their fight first, GGG against Murata in Japan, and then Canelo against the reigning LHW champion on Bivol.
And I agree that Canelo will be the A-side in this fight, maybe 70-30 in favor of him.
As far as I can see, even Canelo and GGG will lose their upcoming fight, the impact and excitement is still there when they faced for a third time. It's a fight that everyone anticipated to happen for a long. To settle everything and it seems it's now likely happening, a third match is necessary to negotiate.
Just seems concerned to GGG here how he can deal with the prime Canelo if he will lose to Murata that is not even in his league.
About the split, 70-30 split is too much. Canelo is too overrated if that will be the final split.
If both of them will be defeated in their respective matches before the trilogy then the excitement and interesting factor will remain and the fight will surely be pursued. However, if GGG will be lost to Murata while Canelo have won his fight against Bivol then I think there's not much to expect for the trilogy as it would clearly state that the trilogy will be in Canelo's favor but if the opposite happened then it would certainly generate so much hype and a trilogy will so much interesting and maybe the split would be even.
It's possible but unlikely to happen, both GGG and Canelo are heavy favorites on their respective match, if there's an upset, it cannot be on both fights. So, for us to really see the fight, both of them have to win the fight for them to create some hype and ensure a huge amount of money in the trilogy.
Let that be the final fight just to give the fans on a long requested trilogy.
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