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Just recently, Bob Arums claimed that a clash and rematch between Nonito Donaire and Naoya Inoue might take place next month. Although unusual to see that there still no clear updates now.

Donaire-Inoue rematch in April ‘really close,’ says Arum.

It's better for me to have this first before anything else. They need a rematch. Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a tough and bloodied fight even. They should settle it for the 2nd time.
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Unfortunately, I was wrong with the Taylor vs Jack Catterall, because Jack scored a knock down on Taylor and it was really close and competitive fight.

But at the end, the judges score the fight to Taylor, but a split decision, 113-112 (2x) for Taylor and the other judge score it 114-111 for Catterall.

So there is a controversy here, there is a consensus that Jack Catterall should have won the fight and this could be a case of robbery.


Here what I have always said in boxing is fulfilled, some statistics are difficult to break, in many places Taylor was considered the winner, most of the comments both on social networks and in the videos themselves were negative towards him, in this meeting it was something that I liked a lot, I saw technique, power, some say it wasn't that good, (of course when you lose it's not a good thing) but this type of fight drives the industry a lot and makes it grow. In this case when we see bets a lot in favor of another boxer, we have to become the devil's advocate and see everything from the point of view contrary to the crowd, it may be that there is the way to make more money.
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February 26, 2022, 10:15:53 PM
Unfortunately, I was wrong with the Taylor vs Jack Catterall, because Jack scored a knock down on Taylor and it was really close and competitive fight.

But at the end, the judges score the fight to Taylor, but a split decision, 113-112 and 114-111 for Taylor and the other judge score it 113-112 for Catterall.

So there is a controversy here, there is a consensus that Jack Catterall should have won the fight and this could be a case of robbery.

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February 24, 2022, 09:21:45 PM
Pretty obvious, it will be a big upset if Josh Taylor will lose in this fight, and not only that, he will also lose the opportunity to fight Crawford. Even though I believe that he will win the fight but I'm not risking 850 USD just to win 100 USD, that's insane.

Same here. Even it's a sure win or the chance is high, can't risk that kind of amount for a few bucks.

I'd rather bet on the winning method in favor of Josh Taylor. A Win by Knock Out seems more chances to happen instead of Decision.

I need more time to analyze the fight if ever I decide to place a bet.

The fight will be this weekend, so better be hurry if you want to bet on this one.

And as others said, one sided fight, so it's going to be a deliberate and long night for  Jack Catterall.

Taylor promises a beat down and this will likely going to happen and Josh will dictate where the fight will go.
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February 19, 2022, 12:42:49 PM
Pretty obvious, it will be a big upset if Josh Taylor will lose in this fight, and not only that, he will also lose the opportunity to fight Crawford. Even though I believe that he will win the fight but I'm not risking 850 USD just to win 100 USD, that's insane.

Same here. Even it's a sure win or the chance is high, can't risk that kind of amount for a few bucks.

I'd rather bet on the winning method in favor of Josh Taylor. A Win by Knock Out seems more chances to happen instead of Decision.

I need more time to analyze the fight if ever I decide to place a bet.
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February 19, 2022, 10:29:51 AM
I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

It's because of Taylor's opponent, that's why there is no buzz in this fight.

I guess the better move for him is to go to 147 and test the waters if he wins this fight. Or probably wait for the 135 lbs, like Lopez moving up in weight or even Tank Davis, who already try 140 lbs and won a belt. And that's where the money is, not fighting someone that boxing fans are not familiar.

We can also tell that the fight will be one sided basing on the betting odds alone.

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/opening-josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-odds-for-undisputed-championship/

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Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall Odds
Boxer   Odds
Josh Taylor   -850
Jack Catterall   +510

I'm not sure if that's the current odds now but I'm sure there's no major changes and Josh Taylor is still the heavy favorite.

Pretty obvious, it will be a big upset if Josh Taylor will lose in this fight, and not only that, he will also lose the opportunity to fight Crawford. Even though I believe that he will win the fight but I'm not risking 850 USD just to win 100 USD, that's insane.
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February 19, 2022, 10:21:35 AM
I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

It's because of Taylor's opponent, that's why there is no buzz in this fight.

I guess the better move for him is to go to 147 and test the waters if he wins this fight. Or probably wait for the 135 lbs, like Lopez moving up in weight or even Tank Davis, who already try 140 lbs and won a belt. And that's where the money is, not fighting someone that boxing fans are not familiar.

We can also tell that the fight will be one sided basing on the betting odds alone.

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/opening-josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-odds-for-undisputed-championship/

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Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall Odds
Boxer   Odds
Josh Taylor   -850
Jack Catterall   +510

I'm not sure if that's the current odds now but I'm sure there's no major changes and Josh Taylor is still the heavy favorite.
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February 19, 2022, 06:59:46 AM
I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.

It's because of Taylor's opponent, that's why there is no buzz in this fight.

I guess the better move for him is to go to 147 and test the waters if he wins this fight. Or probably wait for the 135 lbs, like Lopez moving up in weight or even Tank Davis, who already try 140 lbs and won a belt. And that's where the money is, not fighting someone that boxing fans are not familiar.
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February 19, 2022, 06:56:52 AM
I haven't seen a discussion between the unified 140 lbs champion Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall.

This will happen on Feb. 26 and this is their press conference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRhANw_-_bo

Perhaps there is no hype on this fight because of the weight category, we all know that big fight is in 147 lbs. But there is a potential clash and making some noise between Crawford going down to 140 lbs again to face Josh.
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February 17, 2022, 02:04:22 AM
Yes, there are too many matches and that's why I'm asking which are the matches that are interesting to watch since I'm not familiar with all of them.

Then how it can become interesting to you if you are not familiar with them? There are lots of upcoming matches that we are interested to watch but it's not the same case on how you see it. Like the upcoming big match between Ugas and Spence Jr. in April. It's a big fight that everyone wants to see but I don't know if that match will get your attention.

Another one is Casimero vs Butler, also in the same month. That was the rescheduled match after it was delayed last year, December.

For me, one of the best will be that, Casimero vs. Buttler, but I think that the one that everyone is waiting for is Casimero vs. Inoue, of course the fight organized by the WBO is something mandatory and I think it will happen because It is a business model where money is seen first and not much sport, however I think that now after the fight, the fans will ask for that fight by all means, but for the moment I think that the best fight will be the one with Casimero.
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February 17, 2022, 01:31:58 AM
^^ Yeah, it will be good if Kambosos will give Loma the chance to get back his title. I guess this is a good fight for Kambosos as well because he will be facing one of the best technical fighters we have currently. It's going to be a big test for him. He already did it once against Lopez, beat and pull one of the biggest upset. So let's see if he can make it 2 in row against Loma.

According to 2 boxing experts in the forum, @Boafeng and @bisdak, Teofimo Lopez is not a cery good fighter. The only big name he has defeated is Lomachenko who was speculated to have personal problems before the fight. Let us wish that the sportsbooks will be biased on Kambosos and offer high winning odds for Lomachenko hehehe.

@judeafante. Agreed and according to the article, Kambosos told his team that he wanted a challenge. He will be very respected of he wins, however, the skeptical me is speculating that he might only be thinking that this is his only chance for big money. He will get the biggest opportunity while it is there and retire hehehehe.
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February 16, 2022, 07:06:27 AM
^^ Yeah, it will be good if Kambosos will give Loma the chance to get back his title. I guess this is a good fight for Kambosos as well because he will be facing one of the best technical fighters we have currently. It's going to be a big test for him. He already did it once against Lopez, beat and pull one of the biggest upset. So let's see if he can make it 2 in row against Loma.

I find the Lomachencko fight better than the Haney fight, people love to see Loma he is a big attraction, and promoters and fighters want a big that can bring them big bucks, honestly, I don't see Loma becoming an underdog against Kambosos, Kambo might be the man who beat the man but Loma fighting 100% is a dangerous Loma, whichever Kambosos choose to fight will be interesting as long as they are credible names in the boxing industry.
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February 16, 2022, 06:54:17 AM
^^ Yeah, it will be good if Kambosos will give Loma the chance to get back his title. I guess this is a good fight for Kambosos as well because he will be facing one of the best technical fighters we have currently. It's going to be a big test for him. He already did it once against Lopez, beat and pull one of the biggest upset. So let's see if he can make it 2 in row against Loma.
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February 15, 2022, 11:55:51 PM
Lomachenko might be George Kambosos’ next opponent. Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia were also considered by the team of Kambosos, however, the best offer might be from Lomachenko’s team. This appears to be the return of the Ukranian lightweight to the championship. I speculate the sportsbooks might overestimate Kambosos’ upset on Teofimo Lopez and offer underdog odds on Lomachenko hehehe.



Report: Kambosos To Defend Lightweight Titles June 5 In Melbourne, Lomachenko Frontrunner

The date and venue for George Kambosos Jr.’s first defenses of his lightweight titles reportedly are set.

According to a report posted Tuesday afternoon on ESPN.com, Kambosos will defend his IBF, WBA, WBC “franchise” and WBO 135-pound championships on June 5 at Marvel Stadium in Melbourne, which can accommodate approximately 55,000 for boxing. Kambosos’ next fight thus would take place the night of June 4 in the United States.


Source https://www.boxingscene.com/report-kambosos-defend-lightweight-titles-june-5-melbourne-lomachenko-frontrunner--164144
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February 14, 2022, 07:59:10 PM
Yes, that was a very close fight. It was an interesting match between two highly talented boxers. Their upcoming rematch is even more interesting. A number of belts are on the line. And they could defeat each other. This is definitely not one of those lop-sided matches.

If we look at the odds, Charlo is the favorite and Castano the underdog, but the difference is not that big. So a moneyline bet on either fighters is a nice bet.

That resulted in confusion on my part. It's hard to make choices where we see both boxers are equal. Even reading analysis, you will see both positive ratings and feedback at both boxers. Records are also not enough to make choices.

It's now ended up in a personal choice regardless of their characteristics.

On betting, let's expect that odds for other options are good especially on what Rounds the fight will end.
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February 14, 2022, 07:49:24 PM
Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook and Jerwin Ancajas vs. Fernando Martinez are the fights worth watching I'll skip Guillermo Rigondeaux vs. Vincent Astrolabio, we all know what kind of fighter Guillermo Rigondeaux is, it's boring whenever Rigo is on the ring he refuses and is afraid to engage, the Amir Khan vs. Kell Brook is the most exciting fight to watch I have it in my calendar and we have a dedicated thread for this two warriors.
Thanks, I'll check and see those recommendations that you've said.

Yes, there are too many matches and that's why I'm asking which are the matches that are interesting to watch since I'm not familiar with all of them.

Then how it can become interesting to you if you are not familiar with them? There are lots of upcoming matches that we are interested to watch but it's not the same case on how you see it. Like the upcoming big match between Ugas and Spence Jr. in April. It's a big fight that everyone wants to see but I don't know if that match will get your attention.

Another one is Casimero vs Butler, also in the same month. That was the rescheduled match after it was delayed last year, December.
That's the reason why I'm asking for recommendations. What I'm not aware of, maybe interesting to the others and that would also be interesting to see IMO.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'm also waiting for Casimero vs Butler.
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February 14, 2022, 02:39:32 AM
What are the next few interesting boxing matches in the coming days and weeks? 

The most recent i can see is the one between Jacobs and Ryder on this Saturday, day after tomorrow. The next one is between brook and khan on Feb 19 but the most awaited one will be on April 30 between Taylor and Serrano.

In addition to the upcoming fights you mentioned there is also the rematch between Jermell Charlo and Brian Castano next month. Although this is not the Charlo that was earlier rumored to be fighting against Canelo, this twin is also an interesting fighter. He is after all no less than the unified world super welterweight champion. This match will finally decide as to who among the two is the better man after a split draw last year.

But all these are not really mega fights. Especially compared to the Fury vs Whyte match in April.

Yeah, the first fight was controversial, Castano has more power shots as per stats but Charlo won the fight and ended up in a split draw. So this is a rematch and for the unification.

Charlo didn't win the fight. The fight ended with a split draw. Split draw means one fighter won in one of the judges' scorecards, the other won in another judge's scorecard, and the third judge scored the fight a draw.

The fight was a great fight. It was a unification bout. Various belts are on the line. The upcoming rematch on March 19 will be an equally exciting battle, if not more exciting than the first one. Four titles are on the line. This is going to be a tough fight for each other.

It was a very close fight, in the first two rounds, both boxers are exchanging blows like they were testing each other who will go down first but Charlo backed down on that challenge. After that, Castano unloaded and rained powerful punches to Charlo but luckily Charlo survived it. The last 2 rounds were the toughest ones, they both owned each round that resulted a draw to the fight.

This upcoming fight, it will be more tough and intense as both boxers are putting their titles on the line. Let's see it soon who will be hailed as the champion.

Yes, that was a very close fight. It was an interesting match between two highly talented boxers. Their upcoming rematch is even more interesting. A number of belts are on the line. And they could defeat each other. This is definitely not one of those lop-sided matches.

If we look at the odds, Charlo is the favorite and Castano the underdog, but the difference is not that big. So a moneyline bet on either fighters is a nice bet.
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February 13, 2022, 07:45:44 PM
So we can really tell, he's really not on his prime anymore and he may have some fight even at the age of 35 years old but the chance of winning is relatively small.

No doubt that there are now signs of being slowing down.

Age is really a factor, especially in a post-prime period. These boxers will surely realize if hanging their gloves is now an option if they will continue losing or not performing well.

In the case of Jacobs, he still won five of the first six rounds. He just got a lack of fuel at the end.
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February 13, 2022, 07:33:29 PM
Yes, there are too many matches and that's why I'm asking which are the matches that are interesting to watch since I'm not familiar with all of them.

Then how it can become interesting to you if you are not familiar with them? There are lots of upcoming matches that we are interested to watch but it's not the same case on how you see it. Like the upcoming big match between Ugas and Spence Jr. in April. It's a big fight that everyone wants to see but I don't know if that match will get your attention.

Another one is Casimero vs Butler, also in the same month. That was the rescheduled match after it was delayed last year, December.
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February 13, 2022, 12:48:23 PM
Jacobs is already 35 years old , so yeah, I guess he is already way past his prime years.

He might be remembered when he fought Canelo in 2019 but lost through UD. Then he also fought JCC Jr (another overrated fighter) and won when Chavez quit.

Maybe though he still has some fight in him, make some money and then quit the sports.

Age can really give a difference on how you fight even if you're a champion at your division but when it comes to age, it is really inevitable. As for Jacobs case, he is quite frankly a decent boxer with a 73% KO rate and his 2 losses came from GGG and Canelo respectively, unfortunately  he lost again to Ryder who's KO rate was just below 50%. So we can really tell, he's really not on his prime anymore and he may have some fight even at the age of 35 years old but the chance of winning is relatively small.

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