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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 14, 2024, 02:47:37 AM

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^^ I think it's more on Oscar Valdez to win this fight. He has lost to Shakur and Navarette, those two are really great boxers. But I think the pressure will be on his shoulder here as for me this is a must win for him. Although 130 lbs is pretty much stack up at this point, champions like O'Shaquie Foster the WBC reigning titlist. So it will be very hard for Valdez to climb up in ranks. But if he wanted to, he can start by defeating Wilson. They are in the WBO, so maybe the winner might face either Albert Bell as he is the number 1 rank and it could be a title eliminator and face Navarette. So it will take 2 fights for Valdez to have another shot, hard road but maybe he could still do it.

There are rumors of Navarette moving up in weight for a chance to become a 4 division world champion. So maybe the winner of this fight can fight for the vacant WBO belt. But if Navarette is not planning to move up, I think it is better for Valdez to focus on the other champions. Roach of the WBA, WBC champ Foster and IBF ruler Joe Cordina are better for him than the tough as nails WBO champion.

This is a great fight anyways. This is a great opportunity for Liam Wilson to prove that his close fight with Navarette was not a fluke. I am planning to bet on Wilson in this fight.

Navarrete is great boxer and he already has titles in different divisions but if Navarrete really makes weight to be able to unify the titles perfectly then that is the right choice, he really has become one of the best and has very good record.
In 40 fights he has won 38 wins, 31 of which were by knockout, moreover Navarrete also only suffered one defeat against Daniel Argueta and this defeat occurred in his 6th fight in 2012.
Most impressive fight in my opinion was when Navarrete managed to beat Oscar Valdez and defend the WBO super featherweight world championship belt, this was very impressive fight.
I sure Navarrete did make some decisions that were worth risking because staying only in the class he had mastered didn't make him feel satisfied.

In this fight, I personally saw that Oscar Valdes actually had far more advantages than Liam Wilson, after all Oscar Valdes is also former WBO bantamweight world champion and former WBC lightweight world champion.
In this battle, making Oscar Valdes the favorite is the right choice and if you choose to bet on Liam Wilson tonight, that is quite risky choice in my opinion.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 14, 2024, 02:47:37 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on March 14, 2024, 12:57:11 AM

^^ I think it's more on Oscar Valdez to win this fight. He has lost to Shakur and Navarette, those two are really great boxers. But I think the pressure will be on his shoulder here as for me this is a must win for him. Although 130 lbs is pretty much stack up at this point, champions like O'Shaquie Foster the WBC reigning titlist. So it will be very hard for Valdez to climb up in ranks. But if he wanted to, he can start by defeating Wilson. They are in the WBO, so maybe the winner might face either Albert Bell as he is the number 1 rank and it could be a title eliminator and face Navarette. So it will take 2 fights for Valdez to have another shot, hard road but maybe he could still do it.

There are rumors of Navarette moving up in weight for a chance to become a 4 division world champion. So maybe the winner of this fight can fight for the vacant WBO belt. But if Navarette is not planning to move up, I think it is better for Valdez to focus on the other champions. Roach of the WBA, WBC champ Foster and IBF ruler Joe Cordina are better for him than the tough as nails WBO champion.

Yes, I also thought that Navarette was going to move up in weight as he had a hard time against Robson Conceicao. Although he is still listed as their champion, but perhaps the winner here if Navarette officially moves up could be the interim.

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 14, 2024, 02:47:37 AM

This is a great fight anyways. This is a great opportunity for Liam Wilson to prove that his close fight with Navarette was not a fluke. I am planning to bet on Wilson in this fight.

It was also a great fight between Liam and Navarette, and I thought that he is going to upset Emmanuel that time. And that is the first time that we might have seen Navarette having weight issues already. And perhaps his fight with Robson, just to clean up the division is his final at this weight class.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 12, 2024, 11:55:02 PM

I think the exhibition fight with Buakaw will still push through because i have seen Manny's video training hard for this.

The fight between Manny and Buakaw is one of the legendary fight agendas between two Asian athletes who so far have millions of fans in the world, currently these two legendary fighters have long since quit their official fights and on April 20 will face each other to show their fighting skills in a fight titled Legend Fight with a fairly large prize.

I think all eyes will certainly be on Manny who we have always known as a boxing legend and of course he will have no trouble facing Buakaw in the exhibition match even though he is now 45 years old, in fact I think it will be an easy fight for Manny who has a lot of boxing experience compared to Buakaw who is only a muang thai fighter, Reportedly the fight has boxing rules which only use his hands and will obviously be very difficult for Buakaw as a former Muay Thai fighter, Buakaw was previously accustomed to using elbows, knees, and kicks.
Reportedly this fight will be held at Icon Siam Park, Thailand and will last as many as 6 rounds and each round lasts 3 minutes, and the rest time is 2 minutes.

Adjustments with the rule is something that will give Manny additional edge, Buakaw needs to follow that rules and if ever that instinct comes up chances that he might use something that illegal inside boxing rules, I guess even he' popular from that sport Manny can dominate him, as upon watching Manny's training seems that he's still fit and his figthing capabilities still high, though speed might not be the same from what we expect during his prime but the timing and that solid combination which very difficult to anticipate if where it will coming from, that's how Pacquiao throw his punches.

Looking forward to hear more about updates from this upcoming exhibition I know for sure that fans of both figthers missed them and even it's just for entertainment both fighters will show up some enjoyable and entertaining exchanges of punches.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 14, 2024, 12:57:11 AM

^^ I think it's more on Oscar Valdez to win this fight. He has lost to Shakur and Navarette, those two are really great boxers. But I think the pressure will be on his shoulder here as for me this is a must win for him. Although 130 lbs is pretty much stack up at this point, champions like O'Shaquie Foster the WBC reigning titlist. So it will be very hard for Valdez to climb up in ranks. But if he wanted to, he can start by defeating Wilson. They are in the WBO, so maybe the winner might face either Albert Bell as he is the number 1 rank and it could be a title eliminator and face Navarette. So it will take 2 fights for Valdez to have another shot, hard road but maybe he could still do it.

There are rumors of Navarette moving up in weight for a chance to become a 4 division world champion. So maybe the winner of this fight can fight for the vacant WBO belt. But if Navarette is not planning to move up, I think it is better for Valdez to focus on the other champions. Roach of the WBA, WBC champ Foster and IBF ruler Joe Cordina are better for him than the tough as nails WBO champion.

This is a great fight anyways. This is a great opportunity for Liam Wilson to prove that his close fight with Navarette was not a fluke. I am planning to bet on Wilson in this fight.

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^^ I think it's more on Oscar Valdez to win this fight. He has lost to Shakur and Navarette, those two are really great boxers. But I think the pressure will be on his shoulder here as for me this is a must win for him. Although 130 lbs is pretty much stack up at this point, champions like O'Shaquie Foster the WBC reigning titlist. So it will be very hard for Valdez to climb up in ranks. But if he wanted to, he can start by defeating Wilson. They are in the WBO, so maybe the winner might face either Albert Bell as he is the number 1 rank and it could be a title eliminator and face Navarette. So it will take 2 fights for Valdez to have another shot, hard road but maybe he could still do it.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 13, 2024, 08:59:45 AM

I saw this fight,

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/109506-valdez-vs-wilson

Specially Oscar Valdez vs Liam Wilson, although Wilson is 3:1 underdog in this fight, but I think this is going to be a war. Both fighters are bangers and doesn't hold up anything. I think this is going to be a war. Both are on a comeback trail and they know that their careers are on the line and whoever losses this fight might have to take a break in my opinion. Valdez is coming from a lost to Emmanuel Navarette, both of them actually lost to the champion.

This is a comeback fight for Oscar Valdez and I do agree that this could be fight of the year candidate if they live up to the hype of this fight. This two are warriors in the ring and so with that I expect no less than a action pack fight, and it might not end in the judges scorecard.

Maybe there will be a stoppage, as both are known to bleed early. Cross-roads fight for both of them, and whoever wins will get closer to another title fight. Liam though could be a good underdog, the way I see Valdez at this point of his career, he has too many wars already and it could take toll on his body.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 12, 2024, 11:55:02 PM

I think the exhibition fight with Buakaw will still push through because i have seen Manny's video training hard for this.

The fight between Manny and Buakaw is one of the legendary fight agendas between two Asian athletes who so far have millions of fans in the world, currently these two legendary fighters have long since quit their official fights and on April 20 will face each other to show their fighting skills in a fight titled Legend Fight with a fairly large prize.

I think all eyes will certainly be on Manny who we have always known as a boxing legend and of course he will have no trouble facing Buakaw in the exhibition match even though he is now 45 years old, in fact I think it will be an easy fight for Manny who has a lot of boxing experience compared to Buakaw who is only a muang thai fighter, Reportedly the fight has boxing rules which only use his hands and will obviously be very difficult for Buakaw as a former Muay Thai fighter, Buakaw was previously accustomed to using elbows, knees, and kicks.
Reportedly this fight will be held at Icon Siam Park, Thailand and will last as many as 6 rounds and each round lasts 3 minutes, and the rest time is 2 minutes.

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I saw this fight,

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/109506-valdez-vs-wilson

Specially Oscar Valdez vs Liam Wilson, although Wilson is 3:1 underdog in this fight, but I think this is going to be a war. Both fighters are bangers and doesn't hold up anything. I think this is going to be a war. Both are on a comeback trail and they know that their careers are on the line and whoever losses this fight might have to take a break in my opinion. Valdez is coming from a lost to Emmanuel Navarette, both of them actually lost to the champion.

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Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Maybe it came from the camp of Eubank Jr, but doesn't make sense. However, I don't see any names in the 147 lbs that could give Crawford a good fight or even more money. Charlo maybe at 160 lbs would be good as we all know that during his fight with Spence, they are going back and forth him and the Charlo's.

But as others have said, it's the rematch that we are all been waiting because as far as we know, Spence has activated it already the last time we heard. But so far, there are no noise about it.

Without a confirmation fans been hang on the air, Crawford's years are being wasted as there's no confirm fight that being updated maybe he's enjoying those millions that he recieved from his win and he's trying to keep that belts and whoever the next figther to challenge him will need to bring him an interest to call for it, not sure what might be the next step for Crawford and that rumor fight against Eubank Jr, is just a publicity to bring Crawford name up or maybe to hype Eubank and who knows if fans buy this maybe they will start creating a channel to negotiate for a possible match up between the these two fighters.

I don't think though that he has made tons of money as compare to his peers like Spence or Canelo. Uncle Bob himself told that Crawford is hard to market or at least his fans are not selling that good and that could be the reason why he didn't sign with Top Rank.

And it's only against Spence that he could have made a lot of money, his biggest paycheck in his career. Maybe we can see the rematch with Spence and it could be at 154 lbs and that's what they are cooking. But let's wait for the official announcement.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 05:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Maybe it came from the camp of Eubank Jr, but doesn't make sense. However, I don't see any names in the 147 lbs that could give Crawford a good fight or even more money. Charlo maybe at 160 lbs would be good as we all know that during his fight with Spence, they are going back and forth him and the Charlo's.

But as others have said, it's the rematch that we are all been waiting because as far as we know, Spence has activated it already the last time we heard. But so far, there are no noise about it.

Without a confirmation fans been hang on the air, Crawford's years are being wasted as there's no confirm fight that being updated maybe he's enjoying those millions that he recieved from his win and he's trying to keep that belts and whoever the next figther to challenge him will need to bring him an interest to call for it, not sure what might be the next step for Crawford and that rumor fight against Eubank Jr, is just a publicity to bring Crawford name up or maybe to hype Eubank and who knows if fans buy this maybe they will start creating a channel to negotiate for a possible match up between the these two fighters.

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Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Yeah, I think that Crawford is still looking a dance partner for this year, no names have surface except, Canelo and then Spence for a rematch. So I'm also not buying him and Eubank Jr either in US or UK, there is no money in that fight.

I think Inoue's resume for his year might surpassed Crawford for the pound for pound. Specially if Inoue destroys Nery and dispatches him with another knockout reel. Hopefully though Crawford will still have a fight at least this year so that he won't have a ring rust on not making any money for year 2024.

He should fight Boots Ennis, I reckon unless he is doing a tactic similar to Canelo and avoid the best fighter in his division hehehe. I do not know the story, however, the IBF gave the welterweight championship to Boots Ennis after Bud Crawford fought Spence.

But Bud said that he will not get anything fighting Boots Ennis and that's why he totally overlook him at this point. And checking the rankings, yeah, Boots is now the IBF champion. But Bud still holds the other 3 belts so he is still the king of this division.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2024, 09:55:40 PM

Bud should get his belt and unify the welterweight division again. But if he does not do this, the boxing promoters should let him fight for the vacant WBC and IBF super welterweight championships vs. Tim Tszyu who is WBO super welterweight champion.

154 lbs could be a good territory for him. He has nothing to proved at 147 lbs, he unified it, beat the hell out of Spence. And if he targets super welterweight and then become a unified champion, then I will say that he will cemented his legacy as the only boxer becoming 3 divisions unified champion in the modern 4 belt era.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 12, 2024, 04:13:34 PM

How about Manny Pacquiao vs Conor Benn?

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Pacquiao had a face-off with Conor Benn in Saudi Arabia Thursday following the Anthony Joshua-Francis Ngannou weigh-in, and he told Lance Pugmire of Boxing Scene that he's hoping to leave Saudi Arabia with a signed contract to fight the England native.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112098-manny-pacquiao-ready-to-go-for-fight-vs-conor-benn-amid-contract-talks

I thought that Manny has a fight with Buakaw?

Maybe after this Benn will be next for him? In any case we will see, Manny is still one of the most recognizable fighter in the world, a boxing icon and that could be the reason why everyone is still calling him.

I think the exhibition fight with Buakaw will still push through because i have seen Manny's video training hard for this.

About the Conor Benn fight, i also think that this will push through as they have their first face-off already and i will just consider the Buakaw fight as a tune-up for the Benn encounter. Manny has nothing to prove but the former Senator of the Philippines just love the lime lights that boxing could bring to him.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 12, 2024, 05:28:08 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 05:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Yeah, I think that Crawford is still looking a dance partner for this year, no names have surface except, Canelo and then Spence for a rematch. So I'm also not buying him and Eubank Jr either in US or UK, there is no money in that fight.

I think Inoue's resume for his year might surpassed Crawford for the pound for pound. Specially if Inoue destroys Nery and dispatches him with another knockout reel. Hopefully though Crawford will still have a fight at least this year so that he won't have a ring rust on not making any money for year 2024.

He should fight Boots Ennis, I reckon unless he is doing a tactic similar to Canelo and avoid the best fighter in his division hehehe. I do not know the story, however, the IBF gave the welterweight championship to Boots Ennis after Bud Crawford fought Spence.

Bud should get his belt and unify the welterweight division again. But if he does not do this, the boxing promoters should let him fight for the vacant WBC and IBF super welterweight championships vs. Tim Tszyu who is WBO super welterweight champion.

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How about Manny Pacquiao vs Conor Benn?

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Pacquiao had a face-off with Conor Benn in Saudi Arabia Thursday following the Anthony Joshua-Francis Ngannou weigh-in, and he told Lance Pugmire of Boxing Scene that he's hoping to leave Saudi Arabia with a signed contract to fight the England native.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112098-manny-pacquiao-ready-to-go-for-fight-vs-conor-benn-amid-contract-talks

I thought that Manny has a fight with Buakaw?

Maybe after this Benn will be next for him? In any case we will see, Manny is still one of the most recognizable fighter in the world, a boxing icon and that could be the reason why everyone is still calling him.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 05:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Maybe it came from the camp of Eubank Jr, but doesn't make sense. However, I don't see any names in the 147 lbs that could give Crawford a good fight or even more money. Charlo maybe at 160 lbs would be good as we all know that during his fight with Spence, they are going back and forth him and the Charlo's.

But as others have said, it's the rematch that we are all been waiting because as far as we know, Spence has activated it already the last time we heard. But so far, there are no noise about it.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 05:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Yeah, I think that Crawford is still looking a dance partner for this year, no names have surface except, Canelo and then Spence for a rematch. So I'm also not buying him and Eubank Jr either in US or UK, there is no money in that fight.

I think Inoue's resume for his year might surpassed Crawford for the pound for pound. Specially if Inoue destroys Nery and dispatches him with another knockout reel. Hopefully though Crawford will still have a fight at least this year so that he won't have a ring rust on not making any money for year 2024.

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Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

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@Kemarit. His message on social media only appears that Chris Eubanks has a Christmas wish hehehe. I reckon that he wants to fight someone with a big name, for a big purse before he can announce his retirement. However, if he is not a champion, we can be quite certain that this would not be a very attractive offer for Bud Crawford. Chris Eubanks cannot offer money, cannot offer a championship, cannot offer a victory over a big name.

Also, on a rematch for Crawford and Spence, I disagree. I reckon after what we have witnessed from Spence, the fans do want a rematch. They want Bud Crawford vs. Boots Ennis!

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I've seen this post,

https://twitter.com/ChrisEubankJr/status/1766099150691823693

Any thoughts on this? This is not official yet, and I have to verify if this is Chris Eubank official account or some poser. But intriguing match, Crawford going as high as 160 lbs in this fight materialized. His name has been in the discussions for a Canelo fight at super Middleweight. Maybe this is just a test run for Crawford.

However, both of them have the same trainer in Brian “Bomac” McIntyre. Who won the trainer of the year in 2023, obviously with Crawford winning against his rival Errol Spence Jr and then also helping Eubank Jr avenge his defeat at the hands of Liam Smith.

As far as I know, that was from the official account of Eubank Junior.
I don't know why everyone everywhere is saying that this is absolutely official! But I am honestly still a little doubtful about this one.
Because everything we can see so far is only the image and the X post.

Actually, if this was fake, they should have been already deleted by now. And I am also pretty sure that it is not a fake ID or something.
However, if this somehow happens it will surely make a huge hype no doubt.

I did not say it's official, that's why I'm asking boxing fans here and I'm also surprised to see it as I have said, both are under Bomac. And so with this whole social media era that we have, it's really important to really read between the lines and not treat everything we read as official, just saying. It's better to conformed with other first.

Anyhow, I also thought that there will be a rematch between Crawford and Spence, and I think this is what the fans have been waiting for.

Hopefully, this can happen this year.

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Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

I'm not a big fan of such fights either, and would never bought a ticket or pay-per-view for it, but at the same time, I'm not going to lie - I am curious how will that unfold.
Mike might be old, but he still has a lot of power and explosiveness and surely won't be stepping into a ring to get a beating from some showbiz kid.
Paul's weight in recent fights was only around ~84 kg, while Tyson was at 100kg during the fight against Roy Jones Jr. in Nov 2020. I'd imagine Paul will probably want to bulk up a bit.
The current odds on Mike are x3.2, which I think could be a good bet to take.

Thanks, I think majority here is not a big fan of exhibition fight that involves Jake Paul. But yeah same year, if we play our imagine, Tyson is one of the best heavyweight and there could be fans here that witnesses his greatness to downfall.

Paul will have to get to as high as CW in this weight, not just like 160 lbs - 170 lbs. At least close to 180 or even higher so that he can match Tyson.

I'm not also gonna bet but probably just wait how it unfolds.

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