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Quote from: Kemarit on March 08, 2024, 06:06:19 PM

I've seen this post,

https://twitter.com/ChrisEubankJr/status/1766099150691823693

Any thoughts on this? This is not official yet, and I have to verify if this is Chris Eubank official account or some poser. But intriguing match, Crawford going as high as 160 lbs in this fight materialized. His name has been in the discussions for a Canelo fight at super Middleweight. Maybe this is just a test run for Crawford.

However, both of them have the same trainer in Brian “Bomac” McIntyre. Who won the trainer of the year in 2023, obviously with Crawford winning against his rival Errol Spence Jr and then also helping Eubank Jr avenge his defeat at the hands of Liam Smith.

As far as I know, that was from the official account of Eubank Junior.
I don't know why everyone everywhere is saying that this is absolutely official! But I am honestly still a little doubtful about this one.
Because everything we can see so far is only the image and the X post.

Actually, if this was fake, they should have been already deleted by now. And I am also pretty sure that it is not a fake ID or something.
However, if this somehow happens it will surely make a huge hype no doubt.

Anyway, the interesting thing part is you know both of these guys' trainer is Brian McIntyre,
I don't know how these two guys come to the point of fighting each other, lol Cheesy

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I've seen this post,

https://twitter.com/ChrisEubankJr/status/1766099150691823693

Any thoughts on this? This is not official yet, and I have to verify if this is Chris Eubank official account or some poser. But intriguing match, Crawford going as high as 160 lbs in this fight materialized. His name has been in the discussions for a Canelo fight at super Middleweight. Maybe this is just a test run for Crawford.

However, both of them have the same trainer in Brian “Bomac” McIntyre. Who won the trainer of the year in 2023, obviously with Crawford winning against his rival Errol Spence Jr and then also helping Eubank Jr avenge his defeat at the hands of Liam Smith.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 07, 2024, 09:28:59 PM

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

I'm not a big fan of such fights either, and would never bought a ticket or pay-per-view for it, but at the same time, I'm not going to lie - I am curious how will that unfold.
Mike might be old, but he still has a lot of power and explosiveness and surely won't be stepping into a ring to get a beating from some showbiz kid.
Paul's weight in recent fights was only around ~84 kg, while Tyson was at 100kg during the fight against Roy Jones Jr. in Nov 2020. I'd imagine Paul will probably want to bulk up a bit.
The current odds on Mike are x3.2, which I think could be a good bet to take.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 08, 2024, 07:10:14 AM

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This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

The match against Tyson, I think is like just youtube content for Paul, while for Tyson obviously money is his main motive for accepting the challenge from Paul regardless of whether he will win or lose later in the match, I think what Tyson does will only risk his pride as a boxing legend and I am quite sure if there will be special requirements that occur between the two so that Tyson can get a lot of money from him. Jack Paul and also Neflix as broadcasters who broadcast the match.
Honestly, I would like to see Jack Paul challenge fighters or boxers who are still very active today like Islam Makhachev and Oleksandr Usyk so that he knows the true meaning of boxing and UFC.

Why hate on Jake Paul? He is making a good career and getting into exhibition fights but this guy has some real talent of a boxer. It's business afterall, so they decide on whom they'll fight and when it will happen. There are a lot of boxers nowadays, if we don't want his style, then let's not watch his fights, just pretty simple as that.

Jake Paul have fought legitimate boxers as well, but since he is not a champion or a mandatory challenger, we cannot expect he'll face a top ranked boxers that could potentially give him some problem, maybe time will come, but for now, let him get on the journey he is taking.

Yeah, and with those hates Jake Paul manage to create noise with his career, I mean with his money making career, he sets up fights and he bang big bags of money after, like what you just said why being affected if you don't want his style then don't watch and don't bothered to read or watch any social post about him, he's not going to be affected on whatever criticizm that he will recieved it's his job and he's making millions of dollars out from each set fight for him.

Simple exhibition but the amount that he will received on his paychecks is really something decent compared from those who are really striving making a career out from this sport.

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Quote from: Google+ on March 08, 2024, 06:43:25 AM

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

Well, we all know they made some behind-the-curtain contract agreements as well that's why we see that they are making progress with it and such things are popular in the entertainment industry where everything is just pretentious. This is all about money and even though it is obvious, people still buy it because they enjoy seeing him fighting those people and they are now making some changes by joining some big event to sell their fight as well, looks like everything is going well according to their plan and they are successful with their market strategy.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 08, 2024, 01:07:05 AM

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

The match against Tyson, I think is like just youtube content for Paul, while for Tyson obviously money is his main motive for accepting the challenge from Paul regardless of whether he will win or lose later in the match, I think what Tyson does will only risk his pride as a boxing legend and I am quite sure if there will be special requirements that occur between the two so that Tyson can get a lot of money from him. Jack Paul and also Neflix as broadcasters who broadcast the match.
Honestly, I would like to see Jack Paul challenge fighters or boxers who are still very active today like Islam Makhachev and Oleksandr Usyk so that he knows the true meaning of boxing and UFC.

Why hate on Jake Paul? He is making a good career and getting into exhibition fights but this guy has some real talent of a boxer. It's business afterall, so they decide on whom they'll fight and when it will happen. There are a lot of boxers nowadays, if we don't want his style, then let's not watch his fights, just pretty simple as that.

Jake Paul have fought legitimate boxers as well, but since he is not a champion or a mandatory challenger, we cannot expect he'll face a top ranked boxers that could potentially give him some problem, maybe time will come, but for now, let him get on the journey he is taking.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 08, 2024, 01:07:05 AM

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

The match against Tyson, I think is like just youtube content for Paul, while for Tyson obviously money is his main motive for accepting the challenge from Paul regardless of whether he will win or lose later in the match, I think what Tyson does will only risk his pride as a boxing legend and I am quite sure if there will be special requirements that occur between the two so that Tyson can get a lot of money from him. Jack Paul and also Neflix as broadcasters who broadcast the match.
Honestly, I would like to see Jack Paul challenge fighters or boxers who are still very active today like Islam Makhachev and Oleksandr Usyk so that he knows the true meaning of boxing and UFC.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 07, 2024, 09:28:59 PM

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

I also had this feeling that they might put a script in this fight. I mean Mike Tyson is old already and yet he is cool with it. For sure there is the incentive of money, but still though, he doesn't want to lose to someone specially to Jake Paul.

So they will have to put a great script, maybe we will see a draw like what we see before when Mike fought Jones like years ago.
Or maybe Tyson will controlled his punches and not give 100% of it because he could KO Paul and it might not good for his career in exhibition match.
There's a lot of scenario here that can give both boxers, win-win.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 07, 2024, 09:28:59 PM

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on March 07, 2024, 06:39:08 PM

So apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821

Any thoughts on that fight?

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on March 07, 2024, 06:39:08 PM

So apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821

Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.

Any thoughts on that fight?

Yes probably the biggest age gap that we will see in boxing, assuming we will count exhibition matches a professional fight. But still though even at 58 years of age, Mike Tyson still have that power because it's raw and God given. So regardless of your age, or any other athletes who have been given such, they can still perform and can still harnessed that power if needed in a situation. So there is still possibility that Mike Tyson if he trains seriously can put a serious hurt on Jake Paul if they fought. We just hope that this will not be stage or what like wrestling and they will really go at it to score a knockout. If that is the case then I will go with Mike Tyson to beat Jake Paul. Not only the age but I think Tyson will be the heaviest here. As far as I know Jake can be as high as Cruiserweight, Mike throughout his career is a Heavyweight although weighs just around 200 lbs during his prime.

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So apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821

Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.

Any thoughts on that fight?

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 06, 2024, 07:59:52 AM

So Canelo is staying with PBC for his next fight? Mungia is not an easy fight for Canelo at this stage of his career. Mungia is young, huge and is heavy handed. But this is a little weird since Mungia is with GBP who is partnered with DAZN. The last time Mungia was the WBC mandatory of Jermell Charlo but it did not materialized after both PBC and DAZN did not come up with an agreement and corrupt WBC did not issue a purse bid.

Nontheless, at least PBC can still ride Canelo's popularity especially when it has a new network partner which is something new for the fight fans.

Not sure if this is true or not, but it's business for PBC, as much as we hear that he no longer works with them. But who knows, they are willing to take him back as there are a lot of upside of Canelo being at the side of PBC although Canelo and his team can't discount the fact that David Benavidez name will come into discussion for PBC for his next fight.

But it seems that it will be Munguia next for Canelo as they have settled the networks that will cover for this fight as GBP has it's own network affiliations. It's true about WBC, then go to social media saying that they are like mandating Canelo to fight David Benavidez. But now we see that it's not true as Canelo chooses Munguia.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 06, 2024, 07:59:52 AM

So Canelo is staying with PBC for his next fight? Mungia is not an easy fight for Canelo at this stage of his career. Mungia is young, huge and is heavy handed. But this is a little weird since Mungia is with GBP who is partnered with DAZN. The last time Mungia was the WBC mandatory of Jermell Charlo but it did not materialized after both PBC and DAZN did not come up with an agreement and corrupt WBC did not issue a purse bid.

Nontheless, at least PBC can still ride Canelo's popularity especially when it has a new network partner which is something new for the fight fans.

I'm also confused as we thought that he bolted out of PBC and go to Eddie Hearn again for a Berlanga fight? But it seems that Munguia a Mexican is his next opponent? What happen to the excuse that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican? And then PBC negotiating with Oscar's Golden Boy? I know that could have collaborated fight before, but this is Canelo a former GB fighter. Oh well, it's all business and this people are here to make money and take their personal issues at the side.

I will wait for the official announcement though, so far there is none in social media.

Won't believed it until either side have the final and official announcement as who Canelo is going to fight next this May.

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So Canelo is staying with PBC for his next fight? Mungia is not an easy fight for Canelo at this stage of his career. Mungia is young, huge and is heavy handed. But this is a little weird since Mungia is with GBP who is partnered with DAZN. The last time Mungia was the WBC mandatory of Jermell Charlo but it did not materialized after both PBC and DAZN did not come up with an agreement and corrupt WBC did not issue a purse bid.

Nontheless, at least PBC can still ride Canelo's popularity especially when it has a new network partner which is something new for the fight fans.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on March 03, 2024, 03:35:50 AM

The latest development in the Canelo Alvarez soap opera is that he will remain with PBC for at least one more fight which is expected to be against Jaime Munguia. The question now is whether Canelo has come to his senses and will agree to a Benavidez fight in September or did PBC make some concessions which allow Canelo to keep choosing easier competition?

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Canelo and PBC were recently reported as being at odds with one another over Alvarez’s next opponent. PBC had wanted Munguia for Canelo’s May 4th fight, followed by David Benavidez. It’s unknown if Canelo has now agreed to the deal PBC wanted. If so, then his next two fights will be shown on Amazon Prime PPV. “Not only is Canelo-Munguia agreed for the biggest fight between Mexicans in many years, but PBC also returned to the table with Prime Video,” said Salvador Rodriguez on X.

Source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/canelo-vs-munguia-back-on-pbc-and-amazon-prime-resume-talks/275131

This is really confusing. Everywhere I am watching the news of Canelo vs Munguia and everywhere I am watching that this fight is going to happen.

For now, nobody is saying that this fight is not going to happen.

However, right now it seems like everyone is trying to get views and making the most out of this. I am still not sure 100% about if this fight is actually going to happen or not. But if this happens, Canelo is going to be in danger. I think he is genuinely still trying to avoid Munguia because he knows he has an easier fight and it will be better for him to go there and get the win. Wink

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The latest development in the Canelo Alvarez soap opera is that he will remain with PBC for at least one more fight which is expected to be against Jaime Munguia. The question now is whether Canelo has come to his senses and will agree to a Benavidez fight in September or did PBC make some concessions which allow Canelo to keep choosing easier competition?

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Quote from: Lykslyks on March 01, 2024, 07:05:39 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on February 29, 2024, 04:12:30 AM

WBC will actually bring together David Benavidez vs Oleksandr Gvozdyk for the clash for interim light heavyweight title and in this fight we will clearly see who can win in less time or TKO.
David Benavidez 28-0, 24 KO will meet former light heavyweight champion Oleksandr Gvozdyk 20-1, 16 KO, the difference in their fighting styles can be seen more clearly and Benavidez is of course really fighting to win this fight to be able to move up division .
Many boxing fans really want to see Benavidez fight Canelo but there are several reasons why this fight didn't happen and Canelo himself has fight scheduled for May 4 but it is not clear who his opponent will be because there is no official confirmation yet.
David Benavidez vs Oleksandr Gvozdyk will take place next June and we will see how Benavidez can get the interim WBC light heavyweight title in their fight, he will really be the favorite because Gvozdyk himself has also stopped fighting for quite long time due to injury.

source: https://twitter.com/WBCBoxing/status/1760784291586326995?t=zNk9HR5bKMmm0ll8VqAcKA&s=19

After Canelo can not fight Benavidez because he has a fight this year maybe in May there is a huge chance that he can now fight Charlo for the best thing he can be, but this is what Canelo wanted but, I wanted a much better challenge for Canelo Alvarez, well let's just wait after this fight maybe the Benavidez VS Alvarez could still continue.

What is clear is that Benavidez will fight Gvozdyk and of course Canelo will not fight Benavidez this year even though many people really want their fight.
Previously, it was reported that Canelo had fight on May 4 and the most likely opponent was Jermall Charlo, so there was decision for the fight between Benavidez and Gvozdyk because the Canelo vs Benavidez fight would not happen.
But yesterday I received some news that was being discussed by many boxing fans in the area where I live, they were talking about Canelo choosing Jaime Munguia as his opponent on May 4.
Moreover, last year Canelo also managed to beat Charlo with unanimous decision from the referee, there is no definite clarity regarding this, but what is clear is that Canelo is trying to maintain what he has so that it is not taken by another fighter who could beat him.
I myself was quite surprised by the news of discussions about Canelo choice of opponent because Jaime Munguia has an undefeated title with 43 wins, 0 losses and 34 by knockout.
Jaime Munguia is great boxer and his amazing fight was when he defeated Sergiy Derevyanchenko and John Ryder at super middleweight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 02, 2024, 04:21:57 PM

I don't think boxers will be contented with their performance or legacy. We have seen Manny for instance, time and time again comeback to box even after he losses to Marquez and Floyd and still chooses risk risk fighters.

Maybe they are different. Manny started off his career without a fear of losing and was able to make history in boxing, becoming an 8th division world champion. That happened because he didn't want to stop pushing himself to the limit, even trying to beat bigger guys. However, later on, he realized his weight limit after a victory against Margarito.

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If Canelo doesn't want to take risk anymore at this point in his career, then his legacy will not be cemented if he duck Benavidez or didn't give Bivol a rematch and avenge his lost to him. But that's what his call, and I'm sure that the people around him are advising him to do that, chooses less risk but in the end, he will be judge when he retires.

He could have taken an easier route, such as a rematch with Bivol, but it seems he is not interested in giving it another try against the boxer that defeated him. I believe Benavidez is quite more dangerous than Bivol, so he will also say no to that obviously. Or perhaps, he is just waiting for the right timing, which I'm not certain about because he is not getting any younger so he should be taking fights to add to his legacy before retirement.

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Quote from: Viscore on March 02, 2024, 07:34:26 AM

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It will be a bad strategy if Canelo is reserving everything for a Bivol rematch. He is not getting any younger, and he should have rematch Bivol early, instead of going into John Ryder and Charlo fight, it will not add anything to his legacy (if he is still after it).

Maybe he is already content with his achievements now, and that is his legacy. For now, he doesn't want to take higher risks; he's done with that aspect. What he wants is just to cherry-pick and make money consistently. I know fans are upset as things aren't going the way we'd like for him, but, after all, this is business.

Quote from: Baofeng on March 02, 2024, 07:13:06 AM

Beterbiev vs Benavidez could also be an intriguing match up. Both have power but Benavidez a bit taller and so we will see how Beterbiev can counter that height and reach advantage. But we will see, LHW division is looking to be very interesting division as Benavidez is moving up to challenge the two Russians.

And that will make Canelo slowly fade from the spotlight. Champions are seeking to fight for other champions, even moving up to have a better challenge. Unfortunately, Canelo has stopped challenging himself, especially after his loss to Bivol.

I don't think boxers will be contented with their performance or legacy. We have seen Manny for instance, time and time again comeback to box even after he losses to Marquez and Floyd and still chooses risk risk fighters.

If Canelo doesn't want to take risk anymore at this point in his career, then his legacy will not be cemented if he duck Benavidez or didn't give Bivol a rematch and avenge his lost to him. But that's what his call, and I'm sure that the people around him are advising him to do that, chooses less risk but in the end, he will be judge when he retires.

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