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Casimero is a WBO Global super bantamweight title holder now, I think he can force a mandatory fight with Inoue when Inoue successfully defeats Fulton. I'm not so sure about this but its possible. If no one else is just willing to fight Inoue why not Casimero.

It is possible but I think the no.1 contender has more chance for the mandatory title defense unless the boxing council will give authority for the champion to pick his opponent.

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To Inoue however Casimero is a nobody. I guess its one reason he wouldn't respond to a call after all they couldn't just decide on their own.

As far as I know in their bantamweight day, they had an unfulfilled schedule fight. It was canceled due to pandemic and was never been rescheduled again. I also don't think that Inoue looks at Casimer as nobody because Casimero had proven himself by holding the WBO belt before it was stripped from him. The belt was stripped not won by Butler against him. It (belt strip) maybe cost by carelessness of Casimero but we cannot deny the fact that Casimero was a WBO bantamweight champion while Inoue is holding the other belt.

We all know that Inoue is a very gentleman boxer , he doesn't mess with anyone and he doesn't look for any type of problem either , I think that maybe for that reason they Respect him, as far as I'm concerned I see Inoue as a genius boxer, where he knows how to use every detail of his technique to apply it to a particular boxer knowing that his study is quite strong , then this is reflected in his victories, now, if Casimero considers that he thinks of him that way , well , I think not He has been very good at it , if he must have a Little desire to fight with him , but due to his track record he knows that he cannot be Trusted.

There really has to be done for fights to happen because its just not fun anymore to see top boxers ducks each other. They better make things happen or its the fans losing their respect to the boxers they look up.

Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis set an example already for them already. So if Casimero comes looking for fight pointing Inoue, a yes or no answer at least will shed the light and giving the organisations to decide.

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But Ryder doesn't want none of that, he still stand up despite times wherein Canelo is going to finished him. The best news is that he also gave Canelo all he can handle and that's why there are fans or boxing analysts who think that Canelo is started to decline. But maybe his hand hasn't fully healed or it might have a big effect on him mentally.

And he didn't just stand up, he fought back when he found his rhythm with his jabs. I think John Ryder won some rounds there too when Canelo was resting or was not that aggressive.

John Ryder literally gave Canelo a negative feedback without saying any words after the fight. People are already expecting that it would be a walk in the park for Canelo but that didn't happen as Ryder was not that easy to knock down nor defeat. Canelo have had some hardships that fight too although we already know that in the end, the bout will still belong to him as in the first place, it was made to tune him up before facing heavier names in the industry.

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Josh Taylor is making a lot of buzz with his statements like this one.

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Josh Taylor looking to knock out Teofimo Lopez early as he warns: 'I'm unlocking my full potential'

This statement is without a doubt possible and actually, it is more convincing because the words came from the former undisputed champion's mouth compared to Teo Lopez who is not that convincing. I mean, we already know that for sure, but this man is trying to be relevant even though his movement is not that sharp.

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Next Sunday, Teofimo Lopez versus Josh Taylor.
Josh Taylor is making a lot of buzz with his statements like this one.

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Josh Taylor looking to knock out Teofimo Lopez early as he warns: 'I'm unlocking my full potential'

Both fighters are eager to win by knockout, which is great for the fans as we expect to see a highly entertaining fight. We all know that Lopez loves to engage in toe-to-toe battles, so Taylor needs to bring his best and aim for a devastating punch that could significantly hurt Lopez. We know that Lopez is a true fighter, willing to endure bloodshed, but he will fight until the end. We witnessed that in his fight against Kambosos where he unfortunately suffered a loss.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 05, 2023, 01:45:44 AM

But Ryder doesn't want none of that, he still stand up despite times wherein Canelo is going to finished him. The best news is that he also gave Canelo all he can handle and that's why there are fans or boxing analysts who think that Canelo is started to decline. But maybe his hand hasn't fully healed or it might have a big effect on him mentally.

And he didn't just stand up, he fought back when he found his rhythm with his jabs. I think John Ryder won some rounds there too when Canelo was resting or was not that aggressive.

Next Sunday, Teofimo Lopez versus Josh Taylor.
Josh Taylor is making a lot of buzz with his statements like this one.

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Josh Taylor looking to knock out Teofimo Lopez early as he warns: 'I'm unlocking my full potential'

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"The way I think he's going to fight, we'll put him out of there early," Taylor told Sky Sports. "But if it goes the other way, which I think it might do as well, it'll be a boxing match, a clever boxing match but nothing that I'm going to be surprised with.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12040/12895917/josh-taylor-looking-to-knock-out-teofimo-lopez-early-as-he-warns-im-unlocking-my-full-potential
Taylor last fought against Jack Catterall in February 2022 which he won by split decision.
Teofimo Lopez's last fight was against Sandor Martin in December 2022 by split decision too.
There are issues circling around Teofimo Lopez about his mental health and it is said in the news that it's about the ongoing divorce with his wife and not letting him see their baby. But he said he is in great shape so I think this fight will go on.

The fight will be a title match for the WBO World Super Light. This could become an entertaining match.

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The ball is on the side of Canelo now, there are two boxers that are waiting for him, Bivol and Benavidez. Very hard to see how Canelo though will beat both of this because of his recent performance against John Ryder, he wasn't able to knock down or knock out the Brits, causing fans to think that Canelo might be started on a decline.

So we will see who he favors, definitely he is going to chase for the money here, just a matter of time who will offer the biggest. Personally, David Benavidez might be a perfect fight for Canelo, very young and aggressive fighter and maybe Canelo has one fight inside of him to show his greatness and that might be the young Benavidez.

I think John Ryder was just a tough guy. His face and body were wrecked by Canelo without a doubt but he stayed standing until the end of the fight. That's a big heart for boxing and he proved they cannot just be knocked down that easily. There was a time he was wobbly in that fight but he recovered fast enough to avoid a knockdown.
About Canelo's performance, I think he is doing good, but not great, that left-hand injury must've affected him mentally as he is throwing it only for jabs and not for haymakers. If he ever fights a strong boxer like Bivol who uses his length and jabs, Canelo will be in a bad position. He won against Ryder because he didn't use jabs frequently and he started slow, Canelo took advantage of that and launch his attacks.
They should first check if he can throw big punches using his left before they put him in a fully lighted boxing ring again.

That's one possibility that's why they cherry pick John Ryder for that reason, they might have thought that Ryder will be a easy opponent for Canelo that he can steam rolled the Brits and knockout him out in front of his home crowd.

But Ryder doesn't want none of that, he still stand up despite times wherein Canelo is going to finished him. The best news is that he also gave Canelo all he can handle and that's why there are fans or boxing analysts who think that Canelo is started to decline. But maybe his hand hasn't fully healed or it might have a big effect on him mentally.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on June 04, 2023, 02:56:09 PM

The ball is on the side of Canelo now, there are two boxers that are waiting for him, Bivol and Benavidez. Very hard to see how Canelo though will beat both of this because of his recent performance against John Ryder, he wasn't able to knock down or knock out the Brits, causing fans to think that Canelo might be started on a decline.

So we will see who he favors, definitely he is going to chase for the money here, just a matter of time who will offer the biggest. Personally, David Benavidez might be a perfect fight for Canelo, very young and aggressive fighter and maybe Canelo has one fight inside of him to show his greatness and that might be the young Benavidez.

I think John Ryder was just a tough guy. His face and body were wrecked by Canelo without a doubt but he stayed standing until the end of the fight. That's a big heart for boxing and he proved they cannot just be knocked down that easily. There was a time he was wobbly in that fight but he recovered fast enough to avoid a knockdown.
About Canelo's performance, I think he is doing good, but not great, that left-hand injury must've affected him mentally as he is throwing it only for jabs and not for haymakers. If he ever fights a strong boxer like Bivol who uses his length and jabs, Canelo will be in a bad position. He won against Ryder because he didn't use jabs frequently and he started slow, Canelo took advantage of that and launch his attacks.
They should first check if he can throw big punches using his left before they put him in a fully lighted boxing ring again.

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Casimero is a WBO Global super bantamweight title holder now, I think he can force a mandatory fight with Inoue when Inoue successfully defeats Fulton. I'm not so sure about this but its possible. If no one else is just willing to fight Inoue why not Casimero.

It is possible but I think the no.1 contender has more chance for the mandatory title defense unless the boxing council will give authority for the champion to pick his opponent.

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To Inoue however Casimero is a nobody. I guess its one reason he wouldn't respond to a call after all they couldn't just decide on their own.

As far as I know in their bantamweight day, they had an unfulfilled schedule fight. It was canceled due to pandemic and was never been rescheduled again. I also don't think that Inoue looks at Casimer as nobody because Casimero had proven himself by holding the WBO belt before it was stripped from him. The belt was stripped not won by Butler against him. It (belt strip) maybe cost by carelessness of Casimero but we cannot deny the fact that Casimero was a WBO bantamweight champion while Inoue is holding the other belt.

We all know that Inoue is a very gentleman boxer , he doesn't mess with anyone and he doesn't look for any type of problem either , I think that maybe for that reason they Respect him, as far as I'm concerned I see Inoue as a genius boxer, where he knows how to use every detail of his technique to apply it to a particular boxer knowing that his study is quite strong , then this is reflected in his victories, now, if Casimero considers that he thinks of him that way , well , I think not He has been very good at it , if he must have a Little desire to fight with him , but due to his track record he knows that he cannot be Trusted.

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It was a sad day Daniel Nicolas a Filipino Boxer was defeated in a dominating fashion Kenji Fujita was really fast in his feat you can see who is more experience and who is dominating the fight Daniel Nicolas could have given Fujita some punches but what I see is if Nicolas could get 1 punch but Fujita will surely give Nicolas multiple punches in exchange, you can really see the level of the Japanese boxer to the Filipino boxer the fight was very onesided,

I guess the Japanese is really superior and didn't give Daniel Nicolas a chance to win in this fight. Anyhow, probably just one of those fights that it's hard to win for the Filipino as he lacks the tools to defeat the Japanese.

Lately though, there are a lot of good women's boxing, like Claressa here, who keep all her belt and intact for now.

Not sure though why it is being hated for now, maybe boxing pundits is really into men trying to out box each other and wanted to see a knockout unlike in women's boxing as we seldom see a knockout.

The Japanese are really proving themselves out here now, with all these young talents cementing their names as one of the best Japanese boxers to wear the gloves. We've also seen a massive decline in the performance of Filipino Boxers lately, Nonito Donaire for example losing out on one of his most important fights which in my opinion he has no business of losing since he's still pretty much got much fight in him.

Just a setback for Filipino boxers, but there was a time that we have a lot of champions led by Manny Pacquiao, Nonito Donaire, Donnie Nietes, Brian Villoria and others. But it seems that the golden era of Filipino boxing has somewhat on the back track now as Manny has retired and so are the other great champions. And now the Japanese is taking over from us. Nevertheless, let this be a challenge for Filipino boxers, to really fight hard specially it the title is on the line. Currently we only have Marlon Tapales as our champion.

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As for women's boxing, a lot of boxing fans are just not into it because of the fact that there are less action, and it's more about just landing shots and playing for time instead of massive punches being thrown left and right, basically picture every boxer in the men's division playing like Floyd Mayweather, but with less speed and less finesse. That's how women's boxing looks like to people who grew up watching regular boxing.

I don't think that women's boxing will got the lion share as far as fanbase goes. No offense to them, the women has taking a lot of stride in the last 10 years or so, just like womens MMA. But boxing fans want more action I guess and unless there will be a women boxer who came along knocking everyone out, or at least not a boring fights then maybe we will take more womens boxing very often as we should.

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It was a sad day Daniel Nicolas a Filipino Boxer was defeated in a dominating fashion Kenji Fujita was really fast in his feat you can see who is more experience and who is dominating the fight Daniel Nicolas could have given Fujita some punches but what I see is if Nicolas could get 1 punch but Fujita will surely give Nicolas multiple punches in exchange, you can really see the level of the Japanese boxer to the Filipino boxer the fight was very onesided,

I guess the Japanese is really superior and didn't give Daniel Nicolas a chance to win in this fight. Anyhow, probably just one of those fights that it's hard to win for the Filipino as he lacks the tools to defeat the Japanese.

Lately though, there are a lot of good women's boxing, like Claressa here, who keep all her belt and intact for now.

Not sure though why it is being hated for now, maybe boxing pundits is really into men trying to out box each other and wanted to see a knockout unlike in women's boxing as we seldom see a knockout.

The Japanese are really proving themselves out here now, with all these young talents cementing their names as one of the best Japanese boxers to wear the gloves. We've also seen a massive decline in the performance of Filipino Boxers lately, Nonito Donaire for example losing out on one of his most important fights which in my opinion he has no business of losing since he's still pretty much got much fight in him.

As for women's boxing, a lot of boxing fans are just not into it because of the fact that there are less action, and it's more about just landing shots and playing for time instead of massive punches being thrown left and right, basically picture every boxer in the men's division playing like Floyd Mayweather, but with less speed and less finesse. That's how women's boxing looks like to people who grew up watching regular boxing.

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Quote from: jakelyson on June 04, 2023, 12:18:58 PM

It was a sad day Daniel Nicolas a Filipino Boxer was defeated in a dominating fashion Kenji Fujita was really fast in his feat you can see who is more experience and who is dominating the fight Daniel Nicolas could have given Fujita some punches but what I see is if Nicolas could get 1 punch but Fujita will surely give Nicolas multiple punches in exchange, you can really see the level of the Japanese boxer to the Filipino boxer the fight was very onesided,

I guess the Japanese is really superior and didn't give Daniel Nicolas a chance to win in this fight. Anyhow, probably just one of those fights that it's hard to win for the Filipino as he lacks the tools to defeat the Japanese.

Lately though, there are a lot of good women's boxing, like Claressa here, who keep all her belt and intact for now.

Not sure though why it is being hated for now, maybe boxing pundits is really into men trying to out box each other and wanted to see a knockout unlike in women's boxing as we seldom see a knockout.

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I speculate that there will be no deal for this unless Canelo gives Bivol the biggest money offer in Bivol's career.

I think that is a fair assessment. Canelo lost in their fight, and now he needs to redeem himself. Although Bivol wasn't as well-known at that time, defeating Canelo brought him recognition and he is currently enjoying his newfound popularity. As a result, Bivol has the leverage to negotiate with Canelo, who is eager for a rematch. I believe a 60/40 split in favor of Bivol would be reasonable. Hopefully, Canelo will not be overly greedy and agree to those terms, and if he can, he should strive to defeat Bivol.

However, with Bivol being Russian, maybe he cares only about his legacy and not about the money very much similar to Khabib hehe. If Canelo does not agree to fight Bivol in super middleweight then we will never see these 2 fighters in the same ring again.

I see. So that means that Dimitry Bivol have already laid out his terms for Canelo if the latter wanted to have a rematch, I guess Bivol wanted more from Canelo and not just a sole money fight because as you have said, the rematch should happen at Canelo's division and not within Bivol's.

Anyway, whether if their fight will be contested at 168 or 175, I seriously think Bivol still got the advantage. But that will be a hot question as of now because David's camp also got their own offer.

The ball is on the side of Canelo now, there are two boxers that are waiting for him, Bivol and Benavidez. Very hard to see how Canelo though will beat both of this because of his recent performance against John Ryder, he wasn't able to knock down or knock out the Brits, causing fans to think that Canelo might be started on a decline.

So we will see who he favors, definitely he is going to chase for the money here, just a matter of time who will offer the biggest. Personally, David Benavidez might be a perfect fight for Canelo, very young and aggressive fighter and maybe Canelo has one fight inside of him to show his greatness and that might be the young Benavidez.

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It was a sad day Daniel Nicolas a Filipino Boxer was defeated in a dominating fashion Kenji Fujita was really fast in his feat you can see who is more experience and who is dominating the fight Daniel Nicolas could have given Fujita some punches but what I see is if Nicolas could get 1 punch but Fujita will surely give Nicolas multiple punches in exchange, you can really see the level of the Japanese boxer to the Filipino boxer the fight was very onesided,

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I speculate that there will be no deal for this unless Canelo gives Bivol the biggest money offer in Bivol's career.

I think that is a fair assessment. Canelo lost in their fight, and now he needs to redeem himself. Although Bivol wasn't as well-known at that time, defeating Canelo brought him recognition and he is currently enjoying his newfound popularity. As a result, Bivol has the leverage to negotiate with Canelo, who is eager for a rematch. I believe a 60/40 split in favor of Bivol would be reasonable. Hopefully, Canelo will not be overly greedy and agree to those terms, and if he can, he should strive to defeat Bivol.

However, with Bivol being Russian, maybe he cares only about his legacy and not about the money very much similar to Khabib hehe. If Canelo does not agree to fight Bivol in super middleweight then we will never see these 2 fighters in the same ring again.

I see. So that means that Dimitry Bivol have already laid out his terms for Canelo if the latter wanted to have a rematch, I guess Bivol wanted more from Canelo and not just a sole money fight because as you have said, the rematch should happen at Canelo's division and not within Bivol's.

Anyway, whether if their fight will be contested at 168 or 175, I seriously think Bivol still got the advantage. But that will be a hot question as of now because David's camp also got their own offer.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2023, 06:04:24 PM

It will be really bad if we won't be seeing the rematch between Canelo and Bivol. I think Canelo should be looking for legacy fights as this point of his career, he needs to get back at Bivol and if he wins then maybe David Benavidez next for him.

And if there's no Canelo fight for Bivol, then Beterbiev as they also wanted to chase this fight for a long time.

For David Benavidez though, Sampson said that it could be David Morell in October for his prize fighter if they can't get Canelo Alvarez.

Yes, I agree but thinking about Canelo's recent performance versus John Ryder, he was not that impressive and pretty much clear to me that he was not moving like the usual Canelo Alvarez that we have used to see. Although there is a factor that Ryder was just a good punch eater, we cannot still disregard his chances versus the WBA champion at light-heavyweight division. And if we think his chances are not that strong, for sure his camp also knows about that too.

I would not be surprised if Canelo will accept Benavidez's challenge with of course the humungous guaranteed money that he could have.

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Adrien Broner versus Bill Hutchinson. I was sure last time I posted it here that it should be June 3, I don't know what happened but it is said to happen on June 9. My bad, or I got it from the wrong website or it was moved. Let's just wait one more week then.

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In the womens division, I saw from my feed that Claressa Shields as she dominates the late replacement Maricela Cornejo, scores where, John Basile (100-89), Waleska Roldan (100-90) and Robin Taylor (100-90).

If there is a consolation for Cornejo, it was that she was able to stand toe to toe and last the full 12 rounds of the fight.

So Claressa remains the undisputed MW champion in the women's division.

Yes, a very dominating performance from Claressa Shields.
She said, "I pressed for a knockout." she wanted Marcela Cornejo to hit the canvass but she was tough too. In round 7, she almost took her down as she was wobbly but she was saved by the bell. I really thought Shields could finish it there but she lacks the time to continue the barrage and she cannot just be careless when she knows that the win is almost within her reach. A mistake can happen in such certain events if she forces it but she still didn't stop and attacked Marcela wildly, she survived by a clinch on that round.

Here are the results of that fight.
Claressa Shields def. Maricela Cornejo via unanimous decision (100-89, 100-90, 100-90)
Ardreal Holmes Jr. def. Wendy Toussaint via split decision (76-75, 77-74, 74-77)
Joseph Hicks def. Antonio Todd via unanimous decision (80-72, 80-72, 80-72)

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I speculate that there will be no deal for this unless Canelo gives Bivol the biggest money offer in Bivol's career.

I think that is a fair assessment. Canelo lost in their fight, and now he needs to redeem himself. Although Bivol wasn't as well-known at that time, defeating Canelo brought him recognition and he is currently enjoying his newfound popularity. As a result, Bivol has the leverage to negotiate with Canelo, who is eager for a rematch. I believe a 60/40 split in favor of Bivol would be reasonable. Hopefully, Canelo will not be overly greedy and agree to those terms, and if he can, he should strive to defeat Bivol.

However, with Bivol being Russian, maybe he cares only about his legacy and not about the money very much similar to Khabib hehe. If Canelo does not agree to fight Bivol in super middleweight then we will never see these 2 fighters in the same ring again.

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In the womens division, I saw from my feed that Claressa Shields as she dominates the late replacement Maricela Cornejo, scores where, John Basile (100-89), Waleska Roldan (100-90) and Robin Taylor (100-90).

If there is a consolation for Cornejo, it was that she was able to stand toe to toe and last the full 12 rounds of the fight.

So Claressa remains the undisputed MW champion in the women's division.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2023, 06:04:24 PM

It will be really bad if we won't be seeing the rematch between Canelo and Bivol. I think Canelo should be looking for legacy fights as this point of his career, he needs to get back at Bivol and if he wins then maybe David Benavidez next for him.

I think still boils down about the money for Canelo and his team. Maybe we will hear it straight from Canelo regarding what the manager of Bivol has said to the public.

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And if there's no Canelo fight for Bivol, then Beterbiev as they also wanted to chase this fight for a long time.

This is the fight that we wanted at Light Heavy, two Russians, but then again, it might boils down to their promotional manager.

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For David Benavidez though, Sampson said that it could be David Morell in October for his prize fighter if they can't get Canelo Alvarez.

Good fight for Benavidez, if he can get and knockout Morell then his standing will solidify and maybe Canelo can't avoid him for the long time and perhaps gives Benavidez a chance for a fight.

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It will be really bad if we won't be seeing the rematch between Canelo and Bivol. I think Canelo should be looking for legacy fights as this point of his career, he needs to get back at Bivol and if he wins then maybe David Benavidez next for him.

And if there's no Canelo fight for Bivol, then Beterbiev as they also wanted to chase this fight for a long time.

For David Benavidez though, Sampson said that it could be David Morell in October for his prize fighter if they can't get Canelo Alvarez.

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@bittraffic. Bivol and Canelo's rematch is assured? I shake my head because they cannot agree on the weight division. Bivol wants to fight Canelo in super middleweight where he can win all of Canelo's championships, maybe except for the WBC. Canelo wants to fight in light heavyweight where he can win Bivol's championships hehehe.

I speculate that there will be no deal for this unless Canelo gives Bivol the biggest money offer in Bivol's career.

On Benavidez, he will never be given his chance to fight Canelo. If Canelo fights him, it will be risky. However, he might accept $75 million heheheheheeee.

First time hearing that Bivol wants to get super middleweight belts and go to lower weight division. That is absurd, because he still dont have all the best in light heavyweight division Cheesy

So what is the reason for Bivol to jump from division to division, when he still did not "unlock all achievements" in one Cheesy

And the only reason imho why Canelo would go to light heavyweight is to avenge his loss. He wont go there just to change division, as there are no opponents in super middleweight anymore, he would go only to face Bivol.

Canelo should focus on super middleweight, as he wasnt that dominant against John Ryder, and everyone though it would be cherry picked opponent and easy fight, while Ryder gave him a good fight.

Exactly if Canelo wants it, he can really agree to the weight. Otherwise itw will not happen. Its all up to him, achieving the weight is all he needs otherwise he will not ever get his revenge. He'd been to 175.

Benavidez will have to battle hard if they make this happen but all these fight talks in the future always have discussions over money. Rhey can make fights happen when money talks.

From what I read, it seems that Canelo doesn't want a rematch with Bivol, that is according to Bivol's manager, because they are offering the same, maybe he is referring to the money. So obviously, Bivol is still the champ and has some leverage in this fight as he already beat Canelo soundly, without a doubt.

But if Canelo's camp is offering the same split, then Bivol and his camp has the right to demand for more money.

So it's a question why Canelo and his team is offering the same money in the rematch?

And just the same sentiment, it's Bivol who beats Canelo, and it's his division so why Canelo will offer that same cut from this possible upcoming fight, it's Bivol who should ask for the money and it's Canelo's camp to negotiate, I understand that Canelo still have that charm with the organization but after losing against Bivol, the favor should be on Bivol side and he's the one should dictate what he wants and it should be on his favor since he already give way from that last fight.

Rematch should give Bivol higher offer, making sure that there's no delay with the paychecks.

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