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Quote from: Lanatsa on March 30, 2022, 05:46:39 PM

Surprisingly and this is my first time on hearing it out and did make out some research and found this.
https://sports.inquirer.net/452177/john-riel-casimero-faces-abuse-acts-of-lasciviousness-complaints
John Riel Casimero faces abuse, acts of lasciviousness complaints

Its true that these issues wont really be that enough for his fight to be dismissed again.We dont even
know if this one had already been resolved.

It's more than a month and we don't know if it's already resolved. He might just need to appear in the court if there's a subpoena but knowing that his match is near, there are some rescheduling that might happen.

Quote from: mirakal on March 30, 2022, 02:33:12 PM

Yes, I also don't doubt that Casimero's team have already handled that matter carefully so that it won't distract Casimero anymore on his upcoming fight even if it was just an alleged rape something like that.

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Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

Can't read any news or updates about the case in the internet if it was dismissed or filed, maybe the team have already settled it silently.

Focus is needed on this match since we don't know what will be the outcome of it. Well, I guess they're just ignoring it at this moment and assigned some from their team or a personal lawyer to handle the case so that Casimero can focus and do not have to think of it as it will really impact as a distraction for his upcoming match.

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Quote from: blockman on March 29, 2022, 07:42:11 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 29, 2022, 09:55:01 AM

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

AFAIK, this was already taken care of and there's no basis for that. It's probably a way to distract him with his upcoming match, nevertheless, it's being taken care of by his team.
Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

Surprisingly and this is my first time on hearing it out and did make out some research and found this.
https://sports.inquirer.net/452177/john-riel-casimero-faces-abuse-acts-of-lasciviousness-complaints
John Riel Casimero faces abuse, acts of lasciviousness complaints

Its true that these issues wont really be that enough for his fight to be dismissed again.We dont even
know if this one had already been resolved.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 29, 2022, 07:38:11 PM

Quote from: TimeTeller on March 27, 2022, 06:10:17 PM

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.

Promoters have nothing to do with that. And what do you mean settling it outside? Casimero has a legal team to care for the business and promoters only do their own business too, only related to boxing and nothing else.

Since the issue is now silent maybe it was smoothly working on progress. Or I might agree with the above post that here in PH, the case is rolling slow or maybe the authorities want to settle the case and the presence of Casimero is necessary which is just possible after the match between him and Paul Butler.

Guys, if just a few weeks' periods of sleep and we will now witness this fight.

Maybe he is just confuse that he mistakenly include the promoter on Casimero's team or maybe he just don't know that they have separate jobs.

We cannot literally tell if the case was filed and it is just running slowly before a presence in the court is needed, there's no news about it all or updates what have happened in the case.

3 more weeks to go mate, and then we can witness it!

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Quote from: blockman on March 29, 2022, 07:42:11 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 29, 2022, 09:55:01 AM

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

AFAIK, this was already taken care of and there's no basis for that. It's probably a way to distract him with his upcoming match, nevertheless, it's being taken care of by his team.
Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

Yes, I also don't doubt that Casimero's team have already handled that matter carefully so that it won't distract Casimero anymore on his upcoming fight even if it was just an alleged rape something like that.

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Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

Can't read any news or updates about the case in the internet if it was dismissed or filed, maybe the team have already settled it silently.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 29, 2022, 07:38:11 PM

Quote from: TimeTeller on March 27, 2022, 06:10:17 PM

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.

Promoters have nothing to do with that. And what do you mean settling it outside? Casimero has a legal team to care for the business and promoters only do their own business too, only related to boxing and nothing else.

Correct, promoters are not going to involved themselves here. Maybe just advise Casimero on what to do, but that's it.

Quote from: goinmerry on March 29, 2022, 07:38:11 PM

Since the issue is now silent maybe it was smoothly working on progress. Or I might agree with the above post that here in PH, the case is rolling slow or maybe the authorities want to settle the case and the presence of Casimero is necessary which is just possible after the match between him and Paul Butler.

Also thinking the same, maybe it was settled out of court, or the lawyer of Casimero is working on it, so he has nothing to worry about the case. All Casimero will have to do is focus on the fight because it's getting nearer.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 29, 2022, 09:55:01 AM

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

AFAIK, this was already taken care of and there's no basis for that. It's probably a way to distract him with his upcoming match, nevertheless, it's being taken care of by his team.
Is the case existing and is filed in court? If it's already there then it will be decided and go on trial as the process should go but eventually, if he's no-fault for it, it will be just dismissed.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on March 27, 2022, 06:10:17 PM

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.

Promoters have nothing to do with that. And what do you mean settling it outside? Casimero has a legal team to care for the business and promoters only do their own business too, only related to boxing and nothing else.

Since the issue is now silent maybe it was smoothly working on progress. Or I might agree with the above post that here in PH, the case is rolling slow or maybe the authorities want to settle the case and the presence of Casimero is necessary which is just possible after the match between him and Paul Butler.

Guys, if just a few weeks' periods of sleep and we will now witness this fight.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 29, 2022, 09:55:01 AM

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

This will depend on how he takes this, after all being accused of something like that can be unnerving, so if this affects his performance on the ring then this could be the perfect chance for Butler to defeat a Casimero that has his mind elsewhere, however this could also serve as motivation for him, and instead of being depressed he could do his best to try to win this fight and not let something like this to affect him, however we will not know which attitude Casimero has until we see him fighting Butler and observe his performance.

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Quote from: Maslate on March 29, 2022, 10:00:36 AM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 28, 2022, 08:57:16 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 28, 2022, 05:52:28 AM

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

That would never end if Casimero will mind it. As a boxer, he has to focus only on fighting and winning, let his legal team handle the case because if there's no enough evidence, then there's nothing to be worried about.

I don't know who is behind that, but their timing is really good, good in the sense of destroying the focus of the champ.

By looking at his current physique looks like he really don't bother on that issue maybe he knows that he has a good lawyer on his team. But hopefully he can surpass this challenge and this big issue that occur to him.

But if the case that the court proves that he's guilty then justice for the victim must serve and Casimero should be in jail for his crime.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 29, 2022, 09:55:01 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 28, 2022, 08:57:16 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 28, 2022, 05:52:28 AM

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

That would never end if Casimero will mind it. As a boxer, he has to focus only on fighting and winning, let his legal team handle the case because if there's no enough evidence, then there's nothing to be worried about.

I don't know who is behind that, but their timing is really good, good in the sense of destroying the focus of the champ.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 28, 2022, 08:57:16 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 28, 2022, 05:52:28 AM

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

I understand that we don't judge him right away and that's why I'm trying to say. But if there is a existing case against him, he has to face it. Just like what Pacquiao did before as he has some allegations as well in the past, specially his gambling or supposedly infidelity.

But he kept on fighting, bring honor and money for him and his family. And that's why Casimero should do here, as I have said, he shouldn't get affected by the negative news if this is not true at all.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 28, 2022, 05:52:28 AM

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

Yes, you're quite right about that mate! We have only seen the one side of the story and not the full story behind those allegations if it's really true or not, so it is better not to judge or speculate something that isn't appropriate. What we want is that Casimero won't be distracted about his upcoming fight as he is going to represent the Philippines and entertain the people around the world especially for those who supports him.

We cannot make this good discussion like a showbizness, LOL.
Judge Casimero based on how he fights, not on his personal fight as boxers also has their personal life which we should give them that as privacy. Remember that they fight for our country, they make our country popular when they are successful, so it's a win-win if we will only support him.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 28, 2022, 08:57:16 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 28, 2022, 05:52:28 AM

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

Yes, you're quite right about that mate! We have only seen the one side of the story and not the full story behind those allegations if it's really true or not, so it is better not to judge or speculate something that isn't appropriate. What we want is that Casimero won't be distracted about his upcoming fight as he is going to represent the Philippines and entertain the people around the world especially for those who supports him.

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Quote from: harizen on March 27, 2022, 12:55:34 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on March 26, 2022, 04:54:53 PM

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

That shouldn't be a problem for Casimero and his team if that's the case, as we read the article shared in the previous pages in this thread, we can read that the allegations is not solid and has many loopholes. But I do hope it's the second one, that they already solved that matter without any headlines from any news outlets and media and not just because the case is still pending, waiting for its turn.

We don't know if the issue is true or not but in my own opinion looka like that issue is so shady and might the accuser only want to get money from him. But anyways if this is true then its good to see her got the justice what she deserve but if he only after the money which possibly she can collect then this is suicide attempt for her knowing Casimero has a lot of money and can ablw to pay good attorneys to clean up his name.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 28, 2022, 05:52:28 AM

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

That's why I don't judge Casimero about this issue because we don't know both sides about their lives. Casimero is an Icon, but his job is just to entertain the fans, and he makes money for that, winning gives honor to his country but at the end of the day, he is just doing his job and his personal life is non of our business anymore.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on March 27, 2022, 06:10:17 PM

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 26, 2022, 04:54:53 PM

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.
Because that can ruin his career if the woman is seriously pushing thru the case.
A lesson learned for him, and he should be careful next time. This will change his career and he may regret it in his lifetime.
And now that many people are waiting for his fight, he should not disappoint us for the next one. Wink

I'm not sure if Casimero's promoter has taken care of that, it's beyond their service though, and it's a country wherein they don't have any control of.

Of course, being famous like Casimero in his home country has it's perks because he will be constantly followed by fans around. But in the case, we really don't know who is saying the truth. But hopefully it won't affect Casimero's mentality in this fight. He needs to win so he should focus against Butler and then later he can call Inoue.

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Quote from: harizen on March 27, 2022, 12:55:34 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on March 26, 2022, 04:54:53 PM

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

That shouldn't be a problem for Casimero and his team if that's the case, as we read the article shared in the previous pages in this thread, we can read that the allegations is not solid and has many loopholes. But I do hope it's the second one, that they already solved that matter without any headlines from any news outlets and media and not just because the case is still pending, waiting for its turn.

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Quote from: harizen on March 27, 2022, 12:55:34 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on March 26, 2022, 04:54:53 PM

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

Maybe, Casimero's promoter already take care of it. Because if they can settle it outside, the better.
Because that can ruin his career if the woman is seriously pushing thru the case.
A lesson learned for him, and he should be careful next time. This will change his career and he may regret it in his lifetime.
And now that many people are waiting for his fight, he should not disappoint us for the next one. Wink

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 26, 2022, 04:54:53 PM

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I did some research just a few days ago to somehow shared some updates here regarding that case but found no one.

a) as usual in the Philippines, cases are pending for long or maybe they are waiting after Casimero's fight with Butler
b) the case is now being solved without the media presence

Either way, should not be a form of distraction for Casimero, especially if they think the case doesn't have sufficiently strong evidence and is mainly just a pure accusation. We don't know behind though.

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Quote from: agustina2 on March 26, 2022, 11:04:10 AM

I agree however with what you said that Casimero is now healthy and just maintaining his good shape until the date of the fight. There should be no problem less than a month to go or else, his WBO title will be stripped for good.

He needs to maintain his diet until the fight takes place. He should be fit with the weight so the fight will proceed,

Else, likewise, the bet will be stripped on him and he will be starting from the scratch. The fight will serve as another depend on his title.

A mandatory that he needs to accomplish to call for more money fight. It is his ticket to keep chasing Inoue and settle who's better

between them. One fight at a time, though, Inoue may take Donaire first before him in case he wins against Butler.

Casimero's weight should be their biggest priority as it was his biggest problem than the trainings, they surely don't want that particular issue to rise again because that would surely mean that he will be stripped if he cannot make that needed weight. IMO, Casimero is more than prepared for his fight with Butler, in-fact he is so excited about it. 3 weeks to go and we will see this clash

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