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Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I agree, the incident was just a coincidence and it has nothing to do with his upcoming fight or his previous promoter. Also, Casimero shouldn't worry about that for now nor let that issue distract him in his preparation against Paul Butler. Anyways, if he is really innocent then there's nothing to worry about.

I have not read an update about that lawsuit on Casimero but I think that is taken care of because they have not spoken a word about that case on their vlogs.

Or maybe his lawyer has advised him not to talk about it on public as it might derail the case.

But I have also seen a youtube video of a content creator where he said that there is a tweet by Team Butler on March 5 asking MP promotions on who really is their opponent. This might have something to do with the case of Casimero and they don't want to prepare for a fight with Casimero in mind but in the end, fighting a different opponent would be disastrous for their preparation.

I think it will still be Casimero that he will be fighting, not sure why he is asking MP though, I thought that Casimero has change manager already. He has been offered Agbeko as a first replacement but he didn't take the bait. I don't think he will again if Casimero can't make it again on their fight.
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I agree however with what you said that Casimero is now healthy and just maintaining his good shape until the date of the fight. There should be no problem less than a month to go or else, his WBO title will be stripped for good.

He needs to maintain his diet until the fight takes place. He should be fit with the weight so the fight will proceed,

Else, likewise, the bet will be stripped on him and he will be starting from the scratch. The fight will serve as another depend on his title.

A mandatory that he needs to accomplish to call for more money fight. It is his ticket to keep chasing Inoue and settle who's better

between them. One fight at a time, though, Inoue may take Donaire first before him in case he wins against Butler.
I am not sure how the uncertainty and out side stress and public option and criticism affect the mental health of the athlete.  They surly have to take care of physical health as well as their mental health. I wish all the athletes great mental and physical health. And may this fight happen soon.
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Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I agree, the incident was just a coincidence and it has nothing to do with his upcoming fight or his previous promoter. Also, Casimero shouldn't worry about that for now nor let that issue distract him in his preparation against Paul Butler. Anyways, if he is really innocent then there's nothing to worry about.

I have not read an update about that lawsuit on Casimero but I think that is taken care of because they have not spoken a word about that case on their vlogs.

But I have also seen a youtube video of a content creator where he said that there is a tweet by Team Butler on March 5 asking MP promotions on who really is their opponent. This might have something to do with the case of Casimero and they don't want to prepare for a fight with Casimero in mind but in the end, fighting a different opponent would be disastrous for their preparation.
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And we can all suspect as to who is behind the sudden sexual harassment filed by some lady in the Philippines against Casimero. And it's obvious that they wanted to distract Casimero in this fight and maybe hoping that he will lose.

I doubt there's a mastermind behind that lawsuit since WCPC (Women and Children Protection Desk) is a well-established branch of PNP (Philippine National Police). They are the one assisting individuals or families that is afraid to file a case against abuse. I don't see any involvement of other parties to that especially those in the boxing scene.

If Casimero is really innocent, that case can't be a distraction to him since he knows the truth and eventually the case will close. Looks like the case is now properly handled as no progress happened or been shown by the media since the case was filed last February.



I think it's not related to his upcoming fight, the timing is just bad, but as you said, if he is innocent, this should not distract him in his training.

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Less than a month now before the fight, Casimero is surely now well-prepared.
I just trust him he is doing his job, all I have now is my mind is the excitement of seeing the old Casimero again that could knock out his opponent, if he does that in front of the crowd on Butler's home court, that would make a big news and most probably the discussion between Casimero and Inoue will be hype again.

Is the lawsuit against Casimero on the alleged rape is still not solved? I cannot see any updates about it on the internet, so hopefully they already solved it.

I agree, the incident was just a coincidence and it has nothing to do with his upcoming fight or his previous promoter. Also, Casimero shouldn't worry about that for now nor let that issue distract him in his preparation against Paul Butler. Anyways, if he is really innocent then there's nothing to worry about.
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I agree however with what you said that Casimero is now healthy and just maintaining his good shape until the date of the fight. There should be no problem less than a month to go or else, his WBO title will be stripped for good.

He needs to maintain his diet until the fight takes place. He should be fit with the weight so the fight will proceed,

Else, likewise, the bet will be stripped on him and he will be starting from the scratch. The fight will serve as another depend on his title.

A mandatory that he needs to accomplish to call for more money fight. It is his ticket to keep chasing Inoue and settle who's better

between them. One fight at a time, though, Inoue may take Donaire first before him in case he wins against Butler.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

MP Promotions and Team Casimero has already sorted that out for Casimero so that he can be healthy and at his edge at the day of the fight. Overall, Casimero has prepared enough for this fight and as for his physical abilities and mental health, it's already good. The only thing left to do is to maintain his health like eating the right food that can boost his immune system more.

Few more weeks to go, hold tight people!

So are you saying that Casimero is still working with MP promotion? I read some news before that he shifts to another promoter, the same promoter whom Donaire is working with, I just want to clarify this news to know which is true.

As far as I know, he bolted out of MP and joined Probellum promotions and this will be his first fight under the banner.

So MP and Sean Gibbons are out, and that's why Sean has been attacking the Donaire's because they are intrumental on Casimero joining them on the other side. And we can all suspect as to who is behind the sudden sexual harassment filed by some lady in the Philippines against Casimero. And it's obvious that they wanted to distract Casimero in this fight and maybe hoping that he will lose.

Right, Casimero made the last minute call and have signed under the same roof with Donaire, Probellum promotions. But I'm quite confused here, is Paul Butler also under the Probellum promotion? Correct me if I'm wrong because I have read somewhere last month that Butler is the main cow of Probellum which had me thinking that this fight might be rigged. I hope not.
Yeah he was indeed.
https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/406222/butler-inks-promo-contract-with-probellum-ahead-of-casimero-duel

Paul Butler the mandatory challenger to John Riel Casimero’s WBO world bantamweight title has inked a promotional contract with Probellum ahead of their December 11, 2021 showdown.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

MP Promotions and Team Casimero has already sorted that out for Casimero so that he can be healthy and at his edge at the day of the fight. Overall, Casimero has prepared enough for this fight and as for his physical abilities and mental health, it's already good. The only thing left to do is to maintain his health like eating the right food that can boost his immune system more.

Few more weeks to go, hold tight people!

So are you saying that Casimero is still working with MP promotion? I read some news before that he shifts to another promoter, the same promoter whom Donaire is working with, I just want to clarify this news to know which is true.

As far as I know, he bolted out of MP and joined Probellum promotions and this will be his first fight under the banner.

So MP and Sean Gibbons are out, and that's why Sean has been attacking the Donaire's because they are intrumental on Casimero joining them on the other side. And we can all suspect as to who is behind the sudden sexual harassment filed by some lady in the Philippines against Casimero. And it's obvious that they wanted to distract Casimero in this fight and maybe hoping that he will lose.

Right, Casimero made the last minute call and have signed under the same roof with Donaire, Probellum promotions. But I'm quite confused here, is Paul Butler also under the Probellum promotion? Correct me if I'm wrong because I have read somewhere last month that Butler is the main cow of Probellum which had me thinking that this fight might be rigged. I hope not.
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MP Promotions and Team Casimero has already sorted that out for Casimero so that he can be healthy and at his edge at the day of the fight. Overall, Casimero has prepared enough for this fight and as for his physical abilities and mental health, it's already good. The only thing left to do is to maintain his health like eating the right food that can boost his immune system more.

MP Promotions has nothing to do with the fight. Probellum won the bid on this fight. And the one taking care of Casimero's health is definitely and obviously not his promoter but the team himself. The promoter in layman's terms is the body that organizes and promotes the fight. The internal subject like training, diet and any related stuffs are out of their hands.

I agree however with what you said that Casimero is now healthy and just maintaining his good shape until the date of the fight. There should be no problem less than a month to go or else, his WBO title will be stripped for good.
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And we can all suspect as to who is behind the sudden sexual harassment filed by some lady in the Philippines against Casimero. And it's obvious that they wanted to distract Casimero in this fight and maybe hoping that he will lose.

I doubt there's a mastermind behind that lawsuit since WCPC (Women and Children Protection Desk) is a well-established branch of PNP (Philippine National Police). They are the one assisting individuals or families that is afraid to file a case against abuse. I don't see any involvement of other parties to that especially those in the boxing scene.

If Casimero is really innocent, that case can't be a distraction to him since he knows the truth and eventually the case will close. Looks like the case is now properly handled as no progress happened or been shown by the media since the case was filed last February.



I think it's not related to his upcoming fight, the timing is just bad, but as you said, if he is innocent, this should not distract him in his training.

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Less than a month now before the fight, Casimero is surely now well-prepared.
I just trust him he is doing his job, all I have now is my mind is the excitement of seeing the old Casimero again that could knock out his opponent, if he does that in front of the crowd on Butler's home court, that would make a big news and most probably the discussion between Casimero and Inoue will be hype again.
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And we can all suspect as to who is behind the sudden sexual harassment filed by some lady in the Philippines against Casimero. And it's obvious that they wanted to distract Casimero in this fight and maybe hoping that he will lose.

I doubt there's a mastermind behind that lawsuit since WCPC (Women and Children Protection Desk) is a well-established branch of PNP (Philippine National Police). They are the one assisting individuals or families that is afraid to file a case against abuse. I don't see any involvement of other parties to that especially those in the boxing scene.

If Casimero is really innocent, that case can't be a distraction to him since he knows the truth and eventually the case will close. Looks like the case is now properly handled as no progress happened or been shown by the media since the case was filed last February.

Less than a month now before the fight, Casimero is surely now well-prepared.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

MP Promotions and Team Casimero has already sorted that out for Casimero so that he can be healthy and at his edge at the day of the fight. Overall, Casimero has prepared enough for this fight and as for his physical abilities and mental health, it's already good. The only thing left to do is to maintain his health like eating the right food that can boost his immune system more.

Few more weeks to go, hold tight people!

So are you saying that Casimero is still working with MP promotion? I read some news before that he shifts to another promoter, the same promoter whom Donaire is working with, I just want to clarify this news to know which is true.

As far as I know, he bolted out of MP and joined Probellum promotions and this will be his first fight under the banner.

So MP and Sean Gibbons are out, and that's why Sean has been attacking the Donaire's because they are intrumental on Casimero joining them on the other side. And we can all suspect as to who is behind the sudden sexual harassment filed by some lady in the Philippines against Casimero. And it's obvious that they wanted to distract Casimero in this fight and maybe hoping that he will lose.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

MP Promotions and Team Casimero has already sorted that out for Casimero so that he can be healthy and at his edge at the day of the fight. Overall, Casimero has prepared enough for this fight and as for his physical abilities and mental health, it's already good. The only thing left to do is to maintain his health like eating the right food that can boost his immune system more.

Few more weeks to go, hold tight people!

So are you saying that Casimero is still working with MP promotion? I read some news before that he shifts to another promoter, the same promoter whom Donaire is working with, I just want to clarify this news to know which is true.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

MP Promotions and Team Casimero has already sorted that out for Casimero so that he can be healthy and at his edge at the day of the fight. Overall, Casimero has prepared enough for this fight and as for his physical abilities and mental health, it's already good. The only thing left to do is to maintain his health like eating the right food that can boost his immune system more.

Few more weeks to go, hold tight people!
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.
Well, it's always the thing before the match. We don't know who's going to win even if he's all set and the same goes for Butler.

But with all the likes that the crowd is shouting, we're all on him and that's what they're all seeing. Although he shouldn't be careless as there could really be some turn arounds with just some slight opening that he'll give to Butler during the fight.

We all believe that this fight is his but until then we see the actual winner, it's just getting more exciting.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

Proper diet and exercise, I think from head to toe, Casimero's camp is doing their very best to make their fights healthy and fit. I don't see any videos of hard training meaning they are really focusing on his diet as his medical condition is related to the food he intakes.

Smooth and light training while maintaining a balanced diet is already good. Casimero just has to remain fit until the fight.

Paul Butler on the other hand won't waste the opportunity to take that as an advantage. Can't wait for the strategy he will use to take down Casimero.

Yeah, I think its' more of diet on Casimero's side, it should be balance and couple it with good training, he can make the weight easy, no problem.

As compare to Butler wherein he is a career bantamweight so there will be no problem on his side. But he will be taking one of the most dangerous fighter in the division so it will be very difficult for him.
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He will. Just trust him because he knows what is at stake here.

It will be the biggest win for Butler if he beats the champion in front of the thousand fans watching the fight, and he could give honor to his country because this fight will be held in his country. The support of the fans for Butler here will be enormous, but Casimero should not be distracted by that, he needs to focus to retain his title.

Well let's see, I mean I do also believe that this time Casimero will surely going to make this fight happen without any reason to cancellation because it's happened and this time if he would let another same thing happened I doubt if he could still have a chance to defend his title. This fight has been delayed and move on for a long time and boxing fans are really looking forward to watch this game.
Casimero did not intentionally cancel the first scheduled fight, it was him getting sick and he could not make it to the weigh-in, but now that he has fully recovered, for sure it will not happen again and the most awaited fight will be seen next month which is the scheduled date. \

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I am also a boxing fan who excited for that game because I am rooting for Casimero because I am also wanting to see Casimero fighting Inoue inside the ring.
It's everyone's wish and we hope it will be realized this year.

I agree, I know that Casimero did not do it on purpose, what happens is that the emotion that triggers all this makes many speculate about it. On the other hand, I am also expectant because if Butler becomes victorious in this fight, the doors open to many possibilities, and it would be something sad and very bad for Casimero, because if we get to see Casimero, the doors can be closed with Regarding Boxers who are currently triumphing and obviously the fights will not be seen as exciting, then the good matches will be rescheduled even more.

That is why this gets interesting, whatever he wins will represent the great success that he can mean from that moment on for his career.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.

Proper diet and exercise, I think from head to toe, Casimero's camp is doing their very best to make their fights healthy and fit. I don't see any videos of hard training meaning they are really focusing on his diet as his medical condition is related to the food he intakes.

Smooth and light training while maintaining a balanced diet is already good. Casimero just has to remain fit until the fight.

Paul Butler on the other hand won't waste the opportunity to take that as an advantage. Can't wait for the strategy he will use to take down Casimero.
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^^ Very very important for Casimero to not have any issues with this fight. And I agree that he has sort it out with hiring a nutritionist that will overlook everything he eat and should be making good meals for him.

So everything is set for him against Butler, only the outcome of the fight is an unknown variables. But for us, Casimero is the favorite and chances are very high that he will win this fight.
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That's likely going to happen if Casimero won't show up again, this is his last chance so he should really work more hard now because he was given a chance instead of getting stripped after that incident in Dubai last year but I think that wouldn't going to happen this time as his camp is really focusing on his health now.

After that Dubai incident, Probellum has announced it clearly that this April fight for Casimero is his last chance and if that incident will happen again then he would be strip of the belt and they will look for a replacement boxer so I think they are now scouting or we could say that a "plan B" is in place.

Probellum was caught off guard on that Dubai incident so I think they learned their lessons well and hard lol.

Yes, we can quite assume that "Plan B" is just waiting and sitting around the corner if Casimero fails again this time but I think the burden is now passed on MP Promotions since Casimero's contract with Probellum have already ended last February 2022, IIRC.

MP Promotions have been trying their best so that Casimero's won't fail this time around and as for now, seems Casimero isn't having some difficulties. Anyway, we will see this coming few weeks but I hope he will be healthy.

Likely there should be another plan if Casimero failed again to show up. Paul Butler will have an easy path to the championship title and he will ask to defend it right away. Just imagine, Paul Butler will now become one of the options to fight Naoya Inoue or Nonito Donaire. Not unless Naoya will move up weights and that will remain him and Donaire who has the title.

Casimero can join again the party if he will be cleared healthy.

But I think we will not end up on that story since I'm sure no problem will occur on the side of Casimero.
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We are all hoping for this pandemic to be over because we do see lots of delays and postponement because of this very common reason.It do really sucks and also we do  really like to watch out fights on personal basis if its really that possible to do so or you are just near rather than on seeing it on a screen.

Don't worry. The pandemic has nothing to do now for the fight to be delayed or postponed.

Even with pandemic or not, the fight will push through. It's just a few weeks waiting now. What you need to worry about is if Casimero will now be in good shape knowing he's the reason why the fight got delayed last year and not because of the pandemic.

There are lots of bad consequences now if Casimero will fail again to show up this time. That's why I believed there will be no problem from now on as his team surely did their best right after the incident.
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