Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 3. (Read 9141 times)
April 22, 2022, 04:53:30 PM
This is the common issues here when casimero preparing his upcoming fight he will have a problem and now the WBO team replace him to another fighter but luckily their choice is Sultan which is casimero and sultan are both Filipino fighter but the only thing here is it's a big loss for casimero cause we all know how he prepare for this fight he trained but end up to nothing. There's another fight waiting for him but for now he need to be rest.
April 22, 2022, 04:52:41 PM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This might be an unfortunate news for the Filipino boxing fans, but I'm seeing it as a fortunate fate for Casimero. The guy has been on social media more than he focused on boxing.
That's one of the main reason why he's not going to be a great fighter like Pacquiao or Donaire.
Because of the social media he was caught why he had a huge weight loss lol.
Shadow boxing in a Sauna, what a way to expose yourself for something that's against the rule. Lol
Yeah, not thinking about the consequences of the said action and putting it everything so that everyone see what he is doing (content). But it back fired on him big time that he now is not going to fight but instead will watch on the sideline, Lol. He is good but nowhere will he reach the peak like Pacquiao or Donaire. Butler though should not underestimate Jonas Sultan because he can fell victim to a Filipino too.
April 22, 2022, 04:47:18 PM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This might be an unfortunate news for the Filipino boxing fans, but I'm seeing it as a fortunate fate for Casimero. The guy has been on social media more than he focused on boxing.
That's one of the main reason why he's not going to be a great fighter like Pacquiao or Donaire.
Because of the social media he was caught why he had a huge weight loss lol.
Shadow boxing in a Sauna, what a way to expose yourself for something that's against the rule. Lol
Sultan is surely not prepared for that sudden replacement and i doubt if he had that enough time for him to train out considering that this is an unexpected arrangement of a certain fight.
Butler would really be normally belittling Sultan not compared to Casimero but lets hope that this would be still a good fight despite of the issues that happened.
April 22, 2022, 03:07:14 PM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This might be an unfortunate news for the Filipino boxing fans, but I'm seeing it as a fortunate fate for Casimero. The guy has been on social media more than he focused on boxing.
That's one of the main reason why he's not going to be a great fighter like Pacquiao or Donaire.
Because of the social media he was caught why he had a huge weight loss lol.
Shadow boxing in a Sauna, what a way to expose yourself for something that's against the rule. Lol
There's no more excuse here, they know for the fact that they violated the rules, so they have to accept the consequence. With this bad news, it opened an opportunity for Sultan to have this big fight, and this makes the fight very interesting as for sure Butler would consider Sultan a lower class compared to Casimero, and that might make him more comfortable.
A KO is possible here, I hope the odds will be out soon.
Even in stake, there's no other option of betting odds.
link : https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42638270-butler-paul-sultan-jonas
And as I can see, this fight will be "5:00 AM 4/23/2022", probably they based that in my timezone, so that's more than 30 minutes from now.
So it's strange that other market is not available yet.
April 22, 2022, 02:11:09 PM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This might be an unfortunate news for the Filipino boxing fans, but I'm seeing it as a fortunate fate for Casimero. The guy has been on social media more than he focused on boxing.
That's one of the main reason why he's not going to be a great fighter like Pacquiao or Donaire.
Because of the social media he was caught why he had a huge weight loss lol.
Shadow boxing in a Sauna, what a way to expose yourself for something that's against the rule. Lol
There's no more excuse here, they know for the fact that they violated the rules, so they have to accept the consequence. With this bad news, it opened an opportunity for Sultan to have this big fight, and this makes the fight very interesting as for sure Butler would consider Sultan a lower class compared to Casimero, and that might make him more comfortable.
A KO is possible here, I hope the odds will be out soon.
April 22, 2022, 01:50:52 PM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This might be an unfortunate news for the Filipino boxing fans, but I'm seeing it as a fortunate fate for Casimero. The guy has been on social media more than he focused on boxing.
That's one of the main reason why he's not going to be a great fighter like Pacquiao or Donaire.
Because of the social media he was caught why he had a huge weight loss lol.
Shadow boxing in a Sauna, what a way to expose yourself for something that's against the rule. Lol
April 22, 2022, 01:29:51 PM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
Glad you do, it's six months of discussion about Butler and Casimero only to end up with Sultan fighting Butler for the title, Casimero is losing a lot of opportunities because he is to focus on social media he should focus more on Boxing and forget about social media I understand he has Vlogging but he needs to re-asses his career and pick the one that matters more, he can retire and focus on social media or concentrate on boxing.
While he's out of the picture now, he can continue his vlogging and try to keep inside boxing, he still have the chance and if the time
for him comes it's better to focus and not to let another mistake to happen. Casimero is now being replaced by another great pinoy
fighter. Sultan will have his chance to bring more hypes to his name by beating Butler. Time to assess and pick your best bet.
still got enough time to assess and analyze if which fighter may have a good advantage between the two.
April 22, 2022, 12:33:48 PM
Since yesterday I noticed there were no odds for this fight at Sportsbet. Just now I checked it out. Unbelievable that the hometown fighter and ex champion is a heavy underdog knowing Sultan is only a late replacement on the very last minute. Butler at 4.20 against Sultan at 1.20. Crazy. A friend of mine told me to take a bet on Butler but i'm confused because I actually like Sultan. And Sultan becoming champion will create more noise in the division as he was the last to beat Casimero. And the dream of an undisputed bantamweight champion is still intact because Sultan will definitely entertain fighting Inoue or Donaire.
I am every much surprise with the odds as well, I thought it will make Butler as the favorite since Sultan is just a replacement. If you like to check the betting odds, here's the odds from sportsbet.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/butler-paul-vs-sultan-jonas-62627492ea70517196bd8516
Butler 3.65
Sultan 1.27
I don't like the odds of Sultan anymore.
April 22, 2022, 11:05:19 AM
For the information of those who did not know, Jonas Sultan defeated Casimero on their fight last 2017, this may boost the confidence of the Filipino pug coming into the fight.
That was five years ago and if Sultan wins the title, Casimero can challenge Sultan for a rematch and it will be sweet revenge if it happens the Casimero Sultan fought is very much different now, he has improved a lot but it seems Casimero cannot keep up with the weight anymore and he will haver to prove up, in the first place this would have happened if only Casimero can keep up maintaining the weight, let's see Casimero's plan he will make an announcement on this.
And who knows, we doesn't want a Filipino vs Filipino fight, we almost seen one though before, Donaire vs Casimero, until it was called off and then Casimero and Donaire amend. But Casimero vs Sultan can be potentially made in the future. Not sure if this two are close or what, but they used to be on MP so for sure they have crossed paths recently.
Indeed, Casimero has already improved after that loss against Sultan and so is the latter, if Casimero can really pin down Butler then Sultan can also do that. Jonas Sultan may not be as famous like Casimero but his skills are undoubtedly effective and if he could win this against Butler then it would surely open his doors for more fights in the future. This is an opportunity he don't want to miss!
In the future, we can see Sultan and Casimero again sharing a ring.
April 22, 2022, 09:01:25 AM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This is really an unfortunate news for all those fans and for those who have booked its ticket and accommodations just to watch Casimero fighting against Paul Butler but now all those expectations have all gone in an instant after that said video was upload on Casimero's YouTube channel, what a dumb action indeed. But I believe everything has its reason and why Casimero have pulled out on that fight, it was his problem after all because he cannot lose that weight needed. I thought they already fixed it and there's no problem at all that we all just have to wait him on the day of the fight.
they do able to see on what are the consequences for them not to mind off on hitting that weight.Lots had been disappointed for this situation but well its already too late and we cant really make
things happen.
For Filipino fans then they would eventually show their support to Sultan which had replaced Casimero due to that reason.
Casimero and the team know all this stuff Casimero is a professional boxer for over ten years and his team knows exactly what they are doing, the biggest mistake is the social media if the video did not come out in public, there's a probability that we'll see Casimero and Butler facing the ring, the video and the social media gave them in, to much show off in social media is the cause of this and Casimero should learn his lesson there are something that should be kept in private.
April 22, 2022, 07:40:17 AM
Since yesterday I noticed there were no odds for this fight at Sportsbet. Just now I checked it out. Unbelievable that the hometown fighter and ex champion is a heavy underdog knowing Sultan is only a late replacement on the very last minute. Butler at 4.20 against Sultan at 1.20. Crazy. A friend of mine told me to take a bet on Butler but i'm confused because I actually like Sultan. And Sultan becoming champion will create more noise in the division as he was the last to beat Casimero. And the dream of an undisputed bantamweight champion is still intact because Sultan will definitely entertain fighting Inoue or Donaire.
April 22, 2022, 07:34:13 AM
It's now official we have a fight we should all do away with Casimero - Butler OP should create a new title or anyone here should create a new thread for this exciting fight, it's unexpected but we'll have a good fight, of course, I'll go for Sultan here and I hope he wins.
We have a fight! Official Weigh-in Results for the Probellum Liverpool Main Event
Paul Butler: 117.8 🇬🇧
Jonas Sultan: 117.6 🇵🇭
We have a fight! Official Weigh-in Results for the Probellum Liverpool Main Event
Paul Butler: 117.8 🇬🇧
Jonas Sultan: 117.6 🇵🇭
Sultan vs Butler is a 50-50 fight for me. Butler has the advantage of being on his homecourt but we all know that Jonas Sultan has a big heart and he trained hard for this fight because for their team this is expected.
For the information of those who did not know, Jonas Sultan defeated Casimero on their fight last 2017, this may boost the confidence of the Filipino pug coming into the fight.
@Baofeng, can you change the title of this thread bro, I think there is no need to create another one for Sultan vs Butler.
I agree on that 50-50 and I also think Jonas Sultan has the advantage he needed to defeat Paul Butler in his own territory because of that fact that he also defeated Casimero before in Cebu, Philippines.
Though, this fight might be a tight one because Jonas Sultan is not that capable to defeat Butler by a knockdown or TKO. So my best guess would be a unanimous decision or maybe SD.
April 22, 2022, 07:31:46 AM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This is really an unfortunate news for all those fans and for those who have booked its ticket and accommodations just to watch Casimero fighting against Paul Butler but now all those expectations have all gone in an instant after that said video was upload on Casimero's YouTube channel, what a dumb action indeed. But I believe everything has its reason and why Casimero have pulled out on that fight, it was his problem after all because he cannot lose that weight needed. I thought they already fixed it and there's no problem at all that we all just have to wait him on the day of the fight.
they do able to see on what are the consequences for them not to mind off on hitting that weight.Lots had been disappointed for this situation but well its already too late and we cant really make
things happen.
For Filipino fans then they would eventually show their support to Sultan which had replaced Casimero due to that reason.
April 22, 2022, 07:24:14 AM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
This is really an unfortunate news for all those fans and for those who have booked its ticket and accommodations just to watch Casimero fighting against Paul Butler but now all those expectations have all gone in an instant after that said video was upload on Casimero's YouTube channel, what a dumb action indeed. But I believe everything has its reason and why Casimero have pulled out on that fight, it was his problem after all because he cannot lose that weight needed. I thought they already fixed it and there's no problem at all that we all just have to wait him on the day of the fight.
April 22, 2022, 07:19:07 AM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
Glad you do, it's six months of discussion about Butler and Casimero only to end up with Sultan fighting Butler for the title, Casimero is losing a lot of opportunities because he is to focus on social media he should focus more on Boxing and forget about social media I understand he has Vlogging but he needs to re-asses his career and pick the one that matters more, he can retire and focus on social media or concentrate on boxing.
April 22, 2022, 07:16:45 AM
Casimero should provide valid reasons for his action, otherwise his world title will be stripped of from him.
If the organiztion will implement strict rules, he don't have anything but to accept that the belt needs to be stripped.
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This will certainly bring Casimero's career down so i don't know how he will cope up from this.
He will start from the beginning after losing his belt, nothing can be solve if WBO will be more strict.
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I guess his camp is already aware that what they did is already a violation, and now they come to pay for it.
Yes, there's no one to be blame here aside from the camp itself.
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Losing a title if ever is a worst thing to happen for a world bantamweight king so i just hope this will not happen in his case.
We don't know what will be the final verdict for him, lets wait for the update and hope that there's consideration for him as
champ.
April 22, 2022, 06:56:06 AM
I just updated the title of this thread. Very unfortunate news for Casimero but he will be covered by Jonas Sultan, another great Filipino boxer and hopefully he can still bring the title to the Philippines.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
I will favor Sultan here either by a TKO/KO late in the fight.
April 22, 2022, 01:58:24 AM
Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.
Read the article here: https://www.ringtv.com/638052-john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-off-due-to-casimeros-violation-of-bbbofc-medical-policy/
Don't know if Casimero's camp doesn't know about this or they are desperate to lose more weights that's why they go to this option and what more dumber thing they do is they release a video about what they do.
Now they are preparing Sultan to fight against Butler and this is a huge shame on Casimero.
Read the article here: https://www.ringtv.com/638052-john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-off-due-to-casimeros-violation-of-bbbofc-medical-policy/
Don't know if Casimero's camp doesn't know about this or they are desperate to lose more weights that's why they go to this option and what more dumber thing they do is they release a video about what they do.
Now they are preparing Sultan to fight against Butler and this is a huge shame on Casimero.
This is really unfortunate we have waited this long for the fight not to push through because of Casimero's camp action, I guess Casimero cannot keep up anymore and he's really having a hard time cutting the weight, but that's a bad decision trying to cut weight using sauna when the fight is very near which is a violation on the guidelines, it seems they are badly advised resorting to this method, now Sultan has a good chance to win Casimero's title.
April 22, 2022, 01:39:51 AM
Its been a while where people do keep rooting for this upcoming fight but there are lots of issues that been faced and now its been finalized to this one which it did really result into being replaced
vs Butler.There's nothing we could do but to accept their decision since they are the ones who do make out arrangements of fights if ever a certain fighter did really commit some violation or some sort.
Could this affect Casimero popularity or his career? For sure it will but it wont be still too late.
vs Butler.There's nothing we could do but to accept their decision since they are the ones who do make out arrangements of fights if ever a certain fighter did really commit some violation or some sort.
Could this affect Casimero popularity or his career? For sure it will but it wont be still too late.
What a big disappointments to Casimero and its team and to the fans rooting to see Casimero inside the ring facing Butler and defending his belts. This should be announced the earlier if the last incident that Casimero didn't attend the weight-in still the main reason or maybe there is still another reason that affects and lead the situation into this. I don't think so this will help Casimero's career but hopefully he still could have the opportunity to have a big fight the sooner after this incidents happen.
April 21, 2022, 11:51:51 PM
Could this affect Casimero popularity or his career? For sure it will but it wont be still too late.
No, I don't believe he will lose his career or his popularity he did not lose the title by knockout or anything of that sort he lose the title by default or by not making the weight according to the guidelines, he should be honest with himself and admit if he cannot keep up with the 117 limits, he can always go up and challenge champions in the higher division, it will be good for him he can fight with his natural weight than struggling in the 117.
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