Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 6. (Read 9123 times)

Quote from: goaldigger on April 20, 2022, 08:52:17 AM

Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Very bad on their camp and they just burned their self ror taking video while doing that violation. I think the people surround him is so amateur that's why they didn't take extra precaution upon doing that actions. But since he willingly do that bad actions I guess we should wait for the update on what Casimero camps release a statement regarding on this unfortunate incidents to them. If they cannot convince the officials then this will be a huge loss for him.

I don't know what to react after I saw the news, how can they be so dumb about it and they even post it on the internet? Is his camp really that excited because they want to show Casimero's preparation. For sure they already knew the rules, now Casimero is in a very deep trouble as he should explain in less than 30 hours from the time of this writing why he did that.

Also, I have read that the WBO is already suspecting what did Casimero do to lose such 10 pounds for just a matter of days and now that questioned has been answered.

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I'm wondering if they did this intentionally or they didn't know the rules at all?
Such a shame to the team of Casimero for letting their boxer violate the rules and even post it online. So much drama with Casimero and now he's on a big risk of suspension and getting off the title from him. Casimero should know this as well, I'm quiet disappointed on how he behave in the past, it looks like vlogging is his next career.

I have a feeling that it was intentional they just didn't expect for it to be found out. according to BBofC they require Casimero to undergo check weights when he arrived and they noticed an alarming reduction in Casimero's weight after several check weights after he arrived. BBofC finding out about Casimero using a sauna probably just confirmed the suspicion they already have.

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Quote from: goaldigger on April 20, 2022, 08:52:17 AM

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well, that's a pretty dumb move on their side. what the hell is his team/coach/trainer thinking! I am pretty sure they already know this rule since they have been in the industry for a while now. as much as I hope for him to be granted that he can still fight despite violating the rules I'd completely understand if they don't.

I'm wondering if they did this intentionally or they didn't know the rules at all?
Such a shame to the team of Casimero for letting their boxer violate the rules and even post it online. So much drama with Casimero and now he's on a big risk of suspension and getting off the title from him. Casimero should know this as well, I'm quiet disappointed on how he behave in the past, it looks like vlogging is his next career.

I like to hear the real story first about why the team let it happen it's unbelievable if they are not aware of the guidelines, they just want the fight to push through by going shortcuts on cutting weight, I guess Casimero cannot keep up anymore and he needs to move up that is why they cannot make the weight at the right time, I still believe Casimero will have more great fights his career is not yet over.

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Quote from: Japinat on April 20, 2022, 06:52:15 AM

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well, that's a pretty dumb move on their side. what the hell is his team/coach/trainer thinking! I am pretty sure they already know this rule since they have been in the industry for a while now. as much as I hope for him to be granted that he can still fight despite violating the rules I'd completely understand if they don't.

I'm wondering if they did this intentionally or they didn't know the rules at all?
Such a shame to the team of Casimero for letting their boxer violate the rules and even post it online. So much drama with Casimero and now he's on a big risk of suspension and getting off the title from him. Casimero should know this as well, I'm quiet disappointed on how he behave in the past, it looks like vlogging is his next career.

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Quote from: judeafante on April 20, 2022, 07:35:14 AM

Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Is Sultan ready though? he won his last fight but maybe he has relax enjoy his time. And I'm thinking that he might not be prepared in this short notice to cover John Riel. And if he is not that ready and prepared then chances are, he will lose the fight.

I don't like that options though, it might be a bad ending for two Filipino in one night if they proceed with the Sultan replacement, just saying.

I hope he is ready, but if he would accept as a replacement, then we can assume that he is ready to take the fight. Just like on the Manny vs Spence fight, when Spence was off, Ugas took over and beat the Pacman.

Sultan is ready if he is made aware of the condition of Casimero before the weigh-in, and Sultan is a kind of boxer who never rests on his training, the biggest question now is, is Butler ready to take Sultan, Sultan has beaten Casimero so he could be better than Casimero, Casimero may be disappointed on the decision but the decision is final this will derail his potential to the winner of the Inoue - Donaire match, we are all dispointed on this.

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Quote from: ultrloa on April 20, 2022, 07:02:25 AM

Sultan is ready he is already got a notice about it since there are already a speculation that Casimero could not reach the required weight on this match. Sultan is also a great fighter he has a chance to defeat Butler on this match up and one thing he need to do for this match is to show how eager he is to get the belt what Casimero posses at the moment. This might not be an interesting fight since many fans really want Casimero to be in this fight but let see how Sultan perform.

Sultan is one of the few fighters who has beaten Casimero but that was a long time when Casimero is just developing his style of fighting, Sultan is also a good boxer if it's true that he is aware that he is going to be a replacement I'm sure he will be fully prepared for this fight we have seen a last-minute replacement for a title fight winning the championship, one of this is MannyPacquiao and the latest we seen is Ugas, hopefully, Sultan will be one of those boxers that will be included.

Indeed, Sultan is a great fighter, not much of a power-punching but he is very durable, we saw that in his last fight and he was the underdog but he upset an undefeated fighter who was predicted to be a future star. Though this is just short notice for Sultan, I do think he can win the fight.

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Quote from: ultrloa on April 20, 2022, 07:02:25 AM

Sultan is ready he is already got a notice about it since there are already a speculation that Casimero could not reach the required weight on this match. Sultan is also a great fighter he has a chance to defeat Butler on this match up and one thing he need to do for this match is to show how eager he is to get the belt what Casimero posses at the moment. This might not be an interesting fight since many fans really want Casimero to be in this fight but let see how Sultan perform.

Sultan is one of the few fighters who has beaten Casimero but that was a long time when Casimero is just developing his style of fighting, Sultan is also a good boxer if it's true that he is aware that he is going to be a replacement I'm sure he will be fully prepared for this fight we have seen a last-minute replacement for a title fight winning the championship, one of this is MannyPacquiao and the latest we seen is Ugas, hopefully, Sultan will be one of those boxers that will be included.

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Quote from: btc_angela on April 20, 2022, 05:35:55 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on April 20, 2022, 05:35:55 AM

Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Is Sultan ready though? he won his last fight but maybe he has relax enjoy his time. And I'm thinking that he might not be prepared in this short notice to cover John Riel. And if he is not that ready and prepared then chances are, he will lose the fight.

I don't like that options though, it might be a bad ending for two Filipino in one night if they proceed with the Sultan replacement, just saying.

Sultan is ready he is already got a notice about it since there are already a speculation that Casimero could not reach the required weight on this match. Sultan is also a great fighter he has a chance to defeat Butler on this match up and one thing he need to do for this match is to show how eager he is to get the belt what Casimero posses at the moment. This might not be an interesting fight since many fans really want Casimero to be in this fight but let see how Sultan perform.

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Quote from: arwin100 on April 20, 2022, 05:38:11 AM

Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Is Sultan ready though? he won his last fight but maybe he has relax enjoy his time. And I'm thinking that he might not be prepared in this short notice to cover John Riel. And if he is not that ready and prepared then chances are, he will lose the fight.

I don't like that options though, it might be a bad ending for two Filipino in one night if they proceed with the Sultan replacement, just saying.

I hope he is ready, but if he would accept as a replacement, then we can assume that he is ready to take the fight. Just like on the Manny vs Spence fight, when Spence was off, Ugas took over and beat the Pacman.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Very bad on their camp and they just burned their self ror taking video while doing that violation. I think the people surround him is so amateur that's why they didn't take extra precaution upon doing that actions. But since he willingly do that bad actions I guess we should wait for the update on what Casimero camps release a statement regarding on this unfortunate incidents to them. If they cannot convince the officials then this will be a huge loss for him.

Inoue doesn't care about Casimero. All Inoue wanted is to become undisputed. He is already scheduled to fight Donaire and is expected to win. The lone belt will be the WBO held by Casimero. If ever Butler wins that belt then I really doubt that Briton will fight the monster. He will just probably milk that belt as much as possible in the UK.

I heard before that Sultan was told to prepare as substitute if either Casimero and Butler pulls out. Sultan should be ready. But the possible issue here is the weight. There's only 2 days left. I can only hope that Sultan is not killing himself just to make the weight and ends up too dehydrated on fight night. Or Sultan comes in overweight and not eligible to win the belt.

There are also talks that MP thru its president Sean Gibbons is trying its best to destroy Casimero career. It is also noticeable that Casimero is surrounded with unprofessional people and were just focusing on their social media accounts rather than the fighters career. I still hope Casimero won't get stripped. He deserve a shot at Inoue or Donaire for the undisputed belts. Both are future ATGs though Donaire is past his prime.

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well, that's a pretty dumb move on their side. what the hell is his team/coach/trainer thinking! I am pretty sure they already know this rule since they have been in the industry for a while now. as much as I hope for him to be granted that he can still fight despite violating the rules I'd completely understand if they don't.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Very bad on their camp and they just burned their self ror taking video while doing that violation. I think the people surround him is so amateur that's why they didn't take extra precaution upon doing that actions. But since he willingly do that bad actions I guess we should wait for the update on what Casimero camps release a statement regarding on this unfortunate incidents to them. If they cannot convince the officials then this will be a huge loss for him.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

Is Sultan ready though? he won his last fight but maybe he has relax enjoy his time. And I'm thinking that he might not be prepared in this short notice to cover John Riel. And if he is not that ready and prepared then chances are, he will lose the fight.

I don't like that options though, it might be a bad ending for two Filipino in one night if they proceed with the Sultan replacement, just saying.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Well he can explain everything, and maybe they will allow the fight to continue that is if Butler is ok with Casimero on a catch weight and there will be no belts on the line and Casimero losing some money here. But for sure Butler might not like the idea and he could also be very frustrated as how things come to and end, no more belt for him unless the WBO will handle him the interim title that Casimero has.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

Everything is not going well for Casimero, he broke the rules, and he has to face the consequences. However, though this is a bad news, I am still not that sad because I'm seeing Sultan fighting Butler which I think the Filipino has the edge on this fight, hopefully he will be listed as an underdog.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

Read the article here: https://www.ringtv.com/638052-john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-off-due-to-casimeros-violation-of-bbbofc-medical-policy/

Don't know if Casimero's camp doesn't know about this or they are desperate to lose more weights that's why they go to this option and what more dumber thing they do is they release a video about what they do.

Now they are preparing Sultan to fight against Butler and this is a huge shame on Casimero.

And with this news, I think it's over now for Casimero, he will be strip of the belt for sure for another violation.

I remember that we have discussed before his weight issues and that he hired someone to help him manage his weight in this fight. But it seems it was also a failure as he needed to go to sauna to lost that excess body fat. I guess that only options for him is to go to the next weight class as obviously, he can't make the weight no more.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

How they will respond? And if ever they are able to respond, will WBO accept their statement?

The next 48 hours are critical for Casimero.

Even if they explain I doubt that he can still retain his belt, there's Sultan vs Butler fight that has been set and they are fighting for the belt what Casimero have so for sure even if they explain he still lose that belt as he violate the written rules of BBBOFC.

Now the chances for fans to see the Inoue vs Casimero became more slimmer as Inoue's camp for sure will not interested to fight Casimero at this current state.

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Unfortunate news for Casimero fans, he's now out of the match and a huge chances that he also lost his belt for violating the rules of BBBOFC.

Read the article here: https://www.ringtv.com/638052-john-riel-casimero-vs-paul-butler-off-due-to-casimeros-violation-of-bbbofc-medical-policy/

Don't know if Casimero's camp doesn't know about this or they are desperate to lose more weights that's why they go to this option and what more dumber thing they do is they release a video about what they do.

Now they are preparing Sultan to fight against Butler and this is a huge shame on Casimero.

This is really unfortunate we have waited this long for the fight not to push through because of Casimero's camp action, I guess Casimero cannot keep up anymore and he's really having a hard time cutting the weight, but that's a bad decision trying to cut weight using sauna when the fight is very near which is a violation on the guidelines, it seems they are badly advised resorting to this method, now Sultan has a good chance to win Casimero's title.

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