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But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

Casimero has the more powerful punches. He is also the one defending a belt. He is more aggressive. The odds are speaking of all these. Butler could put up a nice fight of course but it would be very dangerous for him to trade powerful blows with Casimero. He is not really a knockout fighter. He should instead try to run around and gain points to win this match. But he might turn a little more aggressive because he has the home court advantage. It will somehow give his performance a boost.

On the contrary, having the home court advantage, for sure he wanted to put a good show with his fans. So he won't run around and instead will try to go toe to toe with Casimero and hoping that he can score points and not getting knock out. And even if he lost this fight, at least he give his fans their money worth for buying his tickets. He is the underdog in this fight, he should fight aggressive, in my opinion.

We will see what Paul Butler's strategy is in confronting Casimero. But I doubt he doesn't know that his opponent is a strong puncher. He must have already carefully studied Casimero's abilities and punching power. His team must have already learned that of the last 10 fights of Casimero 7 was won by way of knockout. So I doubt that his home court advantage would push him to trade blows with Casimero toe to toe. He will have a game plan but not probably that one.

We wont know until we would see for ourselves on what strategy they would be using neither they would go toe-to-toe or would completely be making out some points and not making some prolong engagement.
Cant really deny about Casimero punching power but there are fighters who are that able to tolerate or could withstand a particular level of power but lets see and Butler would able to
notice it out on earlier rounds.

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But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

Casimero has the more powerful punches. He is also the one defending a belt. He is more aggressive. The odds are speaking of all these. Butler could put up a nice fight of course but it would be very dangerous for him to trade powerful blows with Casimero. He is not really a knockout fighter. He should instead try to run around and gain points to win this match. But he might turn a little more aggressive because he has the home court advantage. It will somehow give his performance a boost.

On the contrary, having the home court advantage, for sure he wanted to put a good show with his fans. So he won't run around and instead will try to go toe to toe with Casimero and hoping that he can score points and not getting knock out. And even if he lost this fight, at least he give his fans their money worth for buying his tickets. He is the underdog in this fight, he should fight aggressive, in my opinion.

We will see what Paul Butler's strategy is in confronting Casimero. But I doubt he doesn't know that his opponent is a strong puncher. He must have already carefully studied Casimero's abilities and punching power. His team must have already learned that of the last 10 fights of Casimero 7 was won by way of knockout. So I doubt that his home court advantage would push him to trade blows with Casimero toe to toe. He will have a game plan but not probably that one.

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But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

Casimero has the more powerful punches. He is also the one defending a belt. He is more aggressive. The odds are speaking of all these. Butler could put up a nice fight of course but it would be very dangerous for him to trade powerful blows with Casimero. He is not really a knockout fighter. He should instead try to run around and gain points to win this match. But he might turn a little more aggressive because he has the home court advantage. It will somehow give his performance a boost.

On the contrary, having the home court advantage, for sure he wanted to put a good show with his fans. So he won't run around and instead will try to go toe to toe with Casimero and hoping that he can score points and not getting knock out. And even if he lost this fight, at least he give his fans their money worth for buying his tickets. He is the underdog in this fight, he should fight aggressive, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 18, 2022, 12:55:00 AM

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But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

Casimero has the more powerful punches. He is also the one defending a belt. He is more aggressive. The odds are speaking of all these. Butler could put up a nice fight of course but it would be very dangerous for him to trade powerful blows with Casimero. He is not really a knockout fighter. He should instead try to run around and gain points to win this match. But he might turn a little more aggressive because he has the home court advantage. It will somehow give his performance a boost.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 18, 2022, 12:55:00 AM

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But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

I definitely agree! Casimero is already sitting at the sports bookies favorite's list long time ago, it's almost impossible that Butler will be the favorite one because his power is not that good compared to Casimero. But the only difference and good thing on this fight is that this time around it will be a good tight fight unlike Casimero's recent rival Rigo who was just running all the way after every bell, Butler is a former champion so we could expect some toe-to-toe fight on this even if we already know who will be the winner.

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Quote from: passwordnow on April 18, 2022, 05:58:27 AM

He's always been that eager and confident of giving Butler a KO. No matter what are the distractions there and being pushed for him as his fight is approaching.
He's already focused and never seen some noise lately that shall confuse and distract him. So I think that he's all set and just waiting for the big day.

That's the spirit of Casimero that every boxing fans and boxing analysts are believing he is into this mindset that's why we believe that a victory via knockout and that's not impossible to happen. It is undeniable that Casimero is the heavy fighter here in this upcoming and that would only be unfold once the game is on and I do hope that this battle shall soon be happen because it was been delayed for too long now and still the hype for this battle still on fire.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 18, 2022, 03:51:07 AM

He is indeed the heavy favourite here. There were predictions that Casimero will K.O Butler If he goes toe to toe against him. We can also see Casimero still have that confidence to win this fight even with a lot distractions in his personal life while pursuing this fight.
The only thing that Casimero needs to sustain is the focus. Other than that, he can surely defend his title against Butler and that he needs to finish this fight in a spectacular fashion for him to get Inoue in his next fight 100%.

He's always been that eager and confident of giving Butler a KO. No matter what are the distractions there and being pushed for him as his fight is approaching.
He's already focused and never seen some noise lately that shall confuse and distract him. So I think that he's all set and just waiting for the big day.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 18, 2022, 12:55:00 AM

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But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

He is indeed the heavy favourite here. There were predictions that Casimero will K.O Butler If he goes toe to toe against him. We can also see Casimero still have that confidence to win this fight even with a lot distractions in his personal life while pursuing this fight.
The only thing that Casimero needs to sustain is the focus. Other than that, he can surely defend his title against Butler and that he needs to finish this fight in a spectacular fashion for him to get Inoue in his next fight 100%.

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true because indeed Casimero is already a world class boxer and butler level and experienced seems not enough to defeat casimero inside the ring. And even though the fight will happen on his country for sure it still no mercy for casimero and i believe this fight will end up by KO.

Both of them are, Butler is also a world-class fighter and his stats are telling it. We're all wanting to see Casimero beat him down on the floor and with the crowd in his favor.
They're all going to be beaten as well if Casimero beats Butler. It's just a few days away and we'll start to see the match, everyone can no longer wait until the day comes. So where do you guys get the update on what they do except Casimero's vlog?

If I'm not mistaken, Butler once became a champion, but his time is over, I'm not sure if he could really beat Casimero but I hope he will play toe to toe fight so we will witness a fight like Ugas and Spence fight. Also, I'm hoping that both fighters are 100% already and they won't be injured in the training so it will not be postponed again.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on April 18, 2022, 01:18:52 AM

true because indeed Casimero is already a world class boxer and butler level and experienced seems not enough to defeat casimero inside the ring. And even though the fight will happen on his country for sure it still no mercy for casimero and i believe this fight will end up by KO.

Both of them are, Butler is also a world-class fighter and his stats are telling it. We're all wanting to see Casimero beat him down on the floor and with the crowd in his favor.
They're all going to be beaten as well if Casimero beats Butler. It's just a few days away and we'll start to see the match, everyone can no longer wait until the day comes. So where do you guys get the update on what they do except Casimero's vlog?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on April 18, 2022, 12:55:00 AM

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

true because indeed Casimero is already a world class boxer and butler level and experienced seems not enough to defeat casimero inside the ring. And even though the fight will happen on his country for sure it still no mercy for casimero and i believe this fight will end up by KO.

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He always delivers a good fight he is confident on what he achieved and what he can do so the promoters and the boxing organizations should give him a well deserve fights, and nothing beats a fight with either Inoue or Donaire.

Except for the fight against Rigo where he cannot deliver a good fight because Rigo is not engaging like usual. Looks like he was just fighting to survive and yet expecting to win int the end of the fight. I'm sure this would be different, Butler is an aggressive fighter, so this is guaranteed a non boring fight.

I'm also expecting a non-boring fight as the style of Rigo is different from Paul Butler. He is more of an aggressive fighter and wants an in-fight compared to Rigo that even before, his specialty is really a defense, and will just gather points to score.

But believe me, if John Riel Casimero will be able to pound and give some disastrous punches to Paul Butler in the early rounds, this guy will act the same as Rigo that will run and stay away from Casimero to prevent being Knock-Down. In the close bout, I don't see how Butler will respond to Casimero.

I hope Casimero wins but I'm also looking forward seeing the very best of this challenger.

Both fighters fought Tete from there we'll get ideas and insight on how both boxers will perform when they faced each other their love to go toe to toe but between the two Casimero is the hard puncher he needs only a good opening to land one big punch and it could end the fight, his timing is good and he is very consistent when he spots the opponents weakness, for me, this is another paycheck for Casimero and after the win he will be a serious contender to whoever wins in the Inoue - Donaire fight.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 18, 2022, 12:52:05 AM

But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

He was the favorite ever since this fight was rumored, Butler was just hyped a bit because he will be fighting in his country, but if we look at their record and performance in their previous fights, it's easy to tell on who will dominate.

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The fact that he is now in England, means we can now erase and removed the speculations that the fight will be delayed, suspended, or canceled because of such issues and controversies he is facing. It's totally a bullsh*t if the organizers will cancel it now that both fighters are there and doing their respective training.

4 days before the fight, odds are still not out yet on some crypto-sportsbook, at least in the one I'm checking, but as usual, we can expect it to be released 1-to 2 days before the fight. Hope more betting options will be released and not just limited to Moneyline.

Maybe, bookies are still waiting for final announcement as they are not very sure about this fight because of other controversy that Casimero was tangled with. But since he is already in England, it means, this will push thru. Maybe tom or couple of days before the fight, we will see the odds. But more than likely, Casimero will have the edge in terms of odds.

That's no doubt since he is the defending champion, expect that bookies will favor him.

And the fact that this is a mandatory fight Casimero needs to impress the boxing world to gain attention and bring him
more upcoming money fights.

Still no odd. Maybe it will be available during the day of the fight or a day before, looking to see both fighters to entertain
the fan with their aggressions to win this fight.

It's a bit unusual for a good fight to have no odds yet on sports betting platforms just days before the fight. Perhaps some bookmakers don't have the taste for this particular fight? Or they have yet to determine the initial odds?

But as far as I can see around, betting odds are heavily favoring Casimero with -2400, -1500, etc. Butler has +1220 or +800. I am in favor of Casimero here but if I have to bet, I would rather bet on Casimero win by KO.

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Quote from: harizen on April 17, 2022, 06:47:11 PM

The fact that he is now in England, means we can now erase and removed the speculations that the fight will be delayed, suspended, or canceled because of such issues and controversies he is facing. It's totally a bullsh*t if the organizers will cancel it now that both fighters are there and doing their respective training.

4 days before the fight, odds are still not out yet on some crypto-sportsbook, at least in the one I'm checking, but as usual, we can expect it to be released 1-to 2 days before the fight. Hope more betting options will be released and not just limited to Moneyline.

Maybe, bookies are still waiting for final announcement as they are not very sure about this fight because of other controversy that Casimero was tangled with. But since he is already in England, it means, this will push thru. Maybe tom or couple of days before the fight, we will see the odds. But more than likely, Casimero will have the edge in terms of odds.

That's no doubt since he is the defending champion, expect that bookies will favor him.

And the fact that this is a mandatory fight Casimero needs to impress the boxing world to gain attention and bring him
more upcoming money fights.

Still no odd. Maybe it will be available during the day of the fight or a day before, looking to see both fighters to entertain
the fan with their aggressions to win this fight.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 15, 2022, 09:16:12 AM

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He always delivers a good fight he is confident on what he achieved and what he can do so the promoters and the boxing organizations should give him a well deserve fights, and nothing beats a fight with either Inoue or Donaire.

Except for the fight against Rigo where he cannot deliver a good fight because Rigo is not engaging like usual. Looks like he was just fighting to survive and yet expecting to win int the end of the fight. I'm sure this would be different, Butler is an aggressive fighter, so this is guaranteed a non boring fight.

I'm also expecting a non-boring fight as the style of Rigo is different from Paul Butler. He is more of an aggressive fighter and wants an in-fight compared to Rigo that even before, his specialty is really a defense, and will just gather points to score.

But believe me, if John Riel Casimero will be able to pound and give some disastrous punches to Paul Butler in the early rounds, this guy will act the same as Rigo that will run and stay away from Casimero to prevent being Knock-Down. In the close bout, I don't see how Butler will respond to Casimero.

I hope Casimero wins but I'm also looking forward seeing the very best of this challenger.

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Quote from: harizen on April 17, 2022, 06:47:11 PM

The fact that he is now in England, means we can now erase and removed the speculations that the fight will be delayed, suspended, or canceled because of such issues and controversies he is facing. It's totally a bullsh*t if the organizers will cancel it now that both fighters are there and doing their respective training.

4 days before the fight, odds are still not out yet on some crypto-sportsbook, at least in the one I'm checking, but as usual, we can expect it to be released 1-to 2 days before the fight. Hope more betting options will be released and not just limited to Moneyline.

Maybe, bookies are still waiting for final announcement as they are not very sure about this fight because of other controversy that Casimero was tangled with. But since he is already in England, it means, this will push thru. Maybe tom or couple of days before the fight, we will see the odds. But more than likely, Casimero will have the edge in terms of odds.

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The fact that he is now in England, means we can now erase and removed the speculations that the fight will be delayed, suspended, or canceled because of such issues and controversies he is facing. It's totally a bullsh*t if the organizers will cancel it now that both fighters are there and doing their respective training.

4 days before the fight, odds are still not out yet on some crypto-sportsbook, at least in the one I'm checking, but as usual, we can expect it to be released 1-to 2 days before the fight. Hope more betting options will be released and not just limited to Moneyline.

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I have been looking for information about the supposed problems for Casimero to get his visa and I have found nothing, if that was true I would have thought that it would be all over the place as it wold be a huge scandal that after Casimero had to reschedule his fight against Butler suddenly he would not be able to make it to the fight once again, at that point he would be stripped from his titles and lose almost all his reputation, but I do not see anything which leads me to believe we will see him fight two weeks from now.

As per Sean Gibbon's twitter account, Casimero is on his way to England, that was tweeted 18 hours ago so i think Johnriel Casimero is already there and that Visa problem is not true but i have also heard on some sources that Jason Casimero was the one that have problem on his visa so he can't accompany his brother to Liverpool which could be a big blow because Jason is the trainer of Quadro Alas.

I thought another reason to delay the match but this is a good thing that Casimero was able to get his Visa on time. He can just hire another trainer that is close to him because most probably he already have lots of training before he flew to England, some adjustments should be made and I hope that this can’t affect the Performance of Casimero. The fight is coming in a week from now, can’t wait to see him fight again.

That specific post of April Fools Prank that Casimero made did really make the fans anxious because they really thought that it's already too late for Casimero, including me. Few hours after, I saw that same post by Sean Gibbons and that made me calm Cheesy

I cannot really accept that Casimero could not fight Butler just because his Visa was denied few days before the fight's schedule, gladly he arrived safe at Manchester and now he is again training while he gets used about the weather.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on April 15, 2022, 09:16:12 AM

Quote from: aioc on April 15, 2022, 09:00:07 AM

He always delivers a good fight he is confident on what he achieved and what he can do so the promoters and the boxing organizations should give him a well deserve fights, and nothing beats a fight with either Inoue or Donaire.

Except for the fight against Rigo where he cannot deliver a good fight because Rigo is not engaging like usual. Looks like he was just fighting to survive and yet expecting to win int the end of the fight. I'm sure this would be different, Butler is an aggressive fighter, so this is guaranteed a non boring fight.

We never know if he will test how good Casimero by aggressively attacking him and throw numbers of solid punches,

looking forward to see that since he's the challenger and he should throw that first blood to attract Casimero to engage with
toe-to-toe actions, both might train and anticipate how their opponents will come up inside the ring, but knowing Casimero
from those old fought that he made aside from Rigo, all are exciting and very entertaining.

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