[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 37.

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^^ I would think that it will be Probellum who is going to happen Casimero's career moving forward. And maybe Casimero will hire someone in-between, and maybe that's where Rachel might enter in the picture. Similar to what Pacquiao did in his career, he has Top Rank but then have Michael Koncz or another Filipino lawyer. And with that meeting, I don't think that we will see Donaire vs Casimero fight in the future. Maybe both Filipinos are targeting Inoue and unseat him in this division.

What a guess and seems can happen. But as we know, both Donaire and Casimero are really eyeing a piece of Naoya Inoue. I also don't believe now that Donaire and Casimero will still face each other. More likely, it will become who's the first to deal with Inoue.

Donaire actually can make a deal now with Inoue since Casimero does have a task first to do.

But before thinking that, let's wait first for the result of the Casimer vs Butler bout.

Of if Casimero gets the first crack on Inoue, maybe Donaire can give him tips or even help him out to prepare for a war with the monster.

But yeah, that picture says a thousand words, but let's not get excited about a potential Filipino vs Inoue fight. Let Casimero deal with Butler first and then we will see how it goes. And hopefully, with his new promotional company Casimero will be given a chance against the Monster in the future.

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Well, that's a motivation not just for Casimero but also for Butler.

The fight has been delayed and we want this fight to happen as soon as possible because there are lots of possibilities if Casimero wins this fight by knockout. He can challenge more strong boxers or go for a championship match-up in the higher-weight division. either way, I'm glad that he is returning back again and we can see more of his boxing skill this upcoming fight. Hope that he will not play or underestimate his health condition again and he continue to put his effort to make this fight looks good for the fans. We already know that he badly wants to fight Inoue, maybe they will have some discussion or negotiation after this fight.

He will definitely look at his weight issues, and regardless of who is going to be his nutritionist, he/she will have to take it a closer look because Casimero has problems before. And it seems he is getting world class nutritionist so maybe that issue will be eliminated now. And so he can focus more on the fight itself and go for a knock out victory.

Casimero, have been preparing for this match since last year even before he was diagnosed with a viral gastritis. So there's nothing to worry about the fight as we know he already got it instead he should focus more about his health, because if he will neglect it then it will get worse until the fight happens and it will be a huge problem.

But knowing that he is now have the "world class" nutritionist then I bet he can now balance things up without worrying too much because he already have someone to look about his health prior to the fight.

For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

We sure hope so that he won't be experiencing the same health issue again especially now that he only have less than 60 days left to train before the fight. Nevertheless, we know that his team are seriously watching him up close and monitor him on daily basis. Obviously, Casimero is already well prepared for his fight against Butler.

We can't tell for now but lots of fans are already rooting that Casimero could fight Inoue after this one.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 18, 2022, 05:45:07 PM

^^ I would think that it will be Probellum who is going to happen Casimero's career moving forward. And maybe Casimero will hire someone in-between, and maybe that's where Rachel might enter in the picture. Similar to what Pacquiao did in his career, he has Top Rank but then have Michael Koncz or another Filipino lawyer. And with that meeting, I don't think that we will see Donaire vs Casimero fight in the future. Maybe both Filipinos are targeting Inoue and unseat him in this division.

Yep, probably he needed someone that can really understand the ins and outs of contract before signing it. As we all know that maybe there could be some "lost in translation" along the way, so it's better that he have someone in his shoulder that will look upon and scrutinized and explained it to John Riel that he will understand. So we have like 8 weeks to go, great time to really start that training and peak at the right time for this fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 18, 2022, 05:45:07 PM

^^ I would think that it will be Probellum who is going to happen Casimero's career moving forward. And maybe Casimero will hire someone in-between, and maybe that's where Rachel might enter in the picture. Similar to what Pacquiao did in his career, he has Top Rank but then have Michael Koncz or another Filipino lawyer. And with that meeting, I don't think that we will see Donaire vs Casimero fight in the future. Maybe both Filipinos are targeting Inoue and unseat him in this division.

What a guess and seems can happen. But as we know, both Donaire and Casimero are really eyeing a piece of Naoya Inoue. I also don't believe now that Donaire and Casimero will still face each other. More likely, it will become who's the first to deal with Inoue.

Donaire actually can make a deal now with Inoue since Casimero does have a task first to do.

But before thinking that, let's wait first for the result of the Casimer vs Butler bout.

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^^ I would think that it will be Probellum who is going to handle Casimero's career moving forward. And maybe Casimero will hire someone in-between, and maybe that's where Rachel might enter in the picture. Similar to what Pacquiao did in his career, he has Top Rank but then have Michael Koncz or another Filipino lawyer. And with that meeting, I don't think that we will see Donaire vs Casimero fight in the future. Maybe both Filipinos are targeting Inoue and unseat him in this division.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on February 18, 2022, 06:56:45 AM

I guess everyone is on the side of Casimero, well, I have the same feeling but I always love to see a good fight so hopefully, it will not be a boring fight like Casimero's last fight, that's the only thing I hope aside from him winning the fight of course.

Not Casimero's fault on why the fight is so boring. Rigo is a runner so we can blame him for that lackluster event hehe.

Photo above was taken more or less 24 hours ago and i'm just curious on what transpired on their meeting.

The Donaires and Sean Gibbons have an altercation just last week and now Casimero and Donaire was meeting so we can conclude that Team Casimero is already out of MP Promotions.

I just don't know who is their new manager, is it Rachel? Grin

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 18, 2022, 05:42:06 AM

I'm under the impression that his medical condition have been cured already that is why he is willing to go and train and fight Butler again.

It won't be a problem, and with his conditioning coach, they can devise a plan on how to carefully shed off that excess weight naturally so that it won't be any harder for him fight night.

He get his doctor's go signal that's why he's now going to undergo with his preparation for this fight.

With his diet, he got his dietitian to take care of it. They are fully aware of how and what to do to make sure that Casimero will
be ready, fit and have allowable weight to call for this fight.

It will slowly and carefully, with both of his diet and conditioning, his body to make sure that he's well prepared to defend his title/belt.

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For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

That's why everything is in the hands now of his conditioning coach. There's no problem with his physical training but rather with his medical condition. Since that happened, I'm sure everyone in Casimero's team is now doing their best not to have the same experience.

It will be a disadvantage for Casimero if that condition happened when the fight is now approaching. A few days to a week's rest is not enough to ease the pain. We don't want that to happen.

The problem now is he's facing himself as the new enemy other than Butler because it is within his body that can prevent him to fight all-out or even worse but hopefully not. Good thing Casimero now have a world class conditioning coach and act as a nutritionist to watch him daily, so I expect that will make him feel much better as the fight is fast approaching.

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I dont know how i feel about this Casimero and Butlers' fight. I just know that im excited to see it. I firmly believe that Casimero will gonna win this fight.

I guess everyone is on the side of Casimero, well, I have the same feeling but I always love to see a good fight so hopefully, it will not be a boring fight like Casimero's last fight, that's the only thing I hope aside from him winning the fight of course.

Why not? I mean, it is clear that Casimero has the higher hand and can defeat Butler even if he is a former champion and going into the enemy's homeland is not that much big of a deal as Casimero and other boxers are well accustomed to it. Sadly, Casimero had recently acquired a viral gastritis and that will be an another enemy that he need to face while prepping for the fight. Nevertheless, Casimero is without a doubt can pull the victory here.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on February 18, 2022, 06:22:14 AM

I dont know how i feel about this Casimero and Butlers' fight. I just know that im excited to see it. I firmly believe that Casimero will gonna win this fight.

I guess everyone is on the side of Casimero, well, I have the same feeling but I always love to see a good fight so hopefully, it will not be a boring fight like Casimero's last fight, that's the only thing I hope aside from him winning the fight of course.

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I'm sure he will not fail this time, they are both given a long period to prepare for the fight, so there should be no problem in the fight, whatever the excuse of Casimero even if it's true, there's still a chance that he will lose the belt and that is so painful for him and for the fans.

Let's see how this will be going to take place because of course we really do wanting to see Casimero in his healthiest body by now because this fight has been postponed for a quite sometime now. The period that Butler and Casimero has been using for preparation was been a long time now and with that being said if the second delay if probably should not going to happen if it will again because of Casimero then there will be no room for him to any other considerations came from WBO management.

The fight will be this coming April 2022, lots of time to prepare to make sure this fight will happen, and Casimero being the one who missed the first fight due to a health problem, should understand that he can't miss twice.

Actually, if he has a problem with his weight, then better vacant the title and move up, if he has the skills he'll surely become a champion again but in a higher division.

Looks like April will be a great Month for the boxing fans since I also hear other great boxer to have match on April. Well, Casimero is a great boxer he should do everything to make this match happen, this is his last chance better be healthy and have a consistent training to avoid any problem again.

I dont know how i feel about this Casimero and Butlers' fight. I just know that im excited to see it. I firmly believe that Casimero will gonna win this fight.

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Quote from: Jating on February 18, 2022, 05:53:03 AM

OF course, everyone here thinks Casimero will not just win, but he will win by a huge knock out. And he will not underestimate Butler here because he will be fighting in his home soil.

That's his only advantage, he is fighting in his homecourt and he will have a lot of fans during the fight. I hope he will give everything for the fans to be entertain, like a toe to toe fight we usually see, it's always entertaining that way.

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So Casimero should be prepared for any, worst scenario but I think he will come up with a good win.

If he loses because he cannot control his weight, or he has problem with his conditioning, then the option is just to move up to a higher division.

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For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

That's why everything is in the hands now of his conditioning coach. There's no problem with his physical training but rather with his medical condition. Since that happened, I'm sure everyone in Casimero's team is now doing their best not to have the same experience.

It will be a disadvantage for Casimero if that condition happened when the fight is now approaching. A few days to a week's rest is not enough to ease the pain. We don't want that to happen.

I'm under the impression that his medical condition have been cured already that is why he is willing to go and train and fight Butler again.

It won't be a problem, and with his conditioning coach, they can devise a plan on how to carefully shed off that excess weight naturally so that it won't be any harder for him fight night.

Same here, that condition was not serious though, and the organization has given him ample time to recover before they announced the right, and when the time comes, I'm sure Casimero will be 100% healthy and he can give his best in this fight. Though I believe he will win but I hope he will not underestimate Butler who is also hungry to be a champion again.

Yes, the most important for Casimero if he is over the weight limit for this class is so slowly and not a crash diet to make it to the limit. We've seen boxers who have done it before and it's a disaster (even in MMA). OF course, everyone here thinks Casimero will not just win, but he will win by a huge knock out. And he will not underestimate Butler here because he will be fighting in his home soil. So Casimero should be prepared for any, worst scenario but I think he will come up with a good win.

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For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

That's why everything is in the hands now of his conditioning coach. There's no problem with his physical training but rather with his medical condition. Since that happened, I'm sure everyone in Casimero's team is now doing their best not to have the same experience.

It will be a disadvantage for Casimero if that condition happened when the fight is now approaching. A few days to a week's rest is not enough to ease the pain. We don't want that to happen.

I'm under the impression that his medical condition have been cured already that is why he is willing to go and train and fight Butler again.

It won't be a problem, and with his conditioning coach, they can devise a plan on how to carefully shed off that excess weight naturally so that it won't be any harder for him fight night.

Same here, that condition was not serious though, and the organization has given him ample time to recover before they announced the right, and when the time comes, I'm sure Casimero will be 100% healthy and he can give his best in this fight. Though I believe he will win but I hope he will not underestimate Butler who is also hungry to be a champion again.

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For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

That's why everything is in the hands now of his conditioning coach. There's no problem with his physical training but rather with his medical condition. Since that happened, I'm sure everyone in Casimero's team is now doing their best not to have the same experience.

It will be a disadvantage for Casimero if that condition happened when the fight is now approaching. A few days to a week's rest is not enough to ease the pain. We don't want that to happen.

I'm under the impression that his medical condition have been cured already that is why he is willing to go and train and fight Butler again.

It won't be a problem, and with his conditioning coach, they can devise a plan on how to carefully shed off that excess weight naturally so that it won't be any harder for him fight night.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 17, 2022, 09:44:56 PM

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For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

That's why everything is in the hands now of his conditioning coach. There's no problem with his physical training but rather with his medical condition. Since that happened, I'm sure everyone in Casimero's team is now doing their best not to have the same experience.

It will be a disadvantage for Casimero if that condition happened when the fight is now approaching. A few days to a week's rest is not enough to ease the pain. We don't want that to happen.

He looks much condition as I look at him on his youtube channel and he's doing fine on his trainings so provably we can see a more stronger Casimero since he have a target to hit. And for hiring best nutritionist on his team is indicator that he is so serious this time so I guess this is a huge challenge to Butler to come up with this fight and how he can able to handle Casimero since for sure many expect him to lose on this fight.

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Quote from: arwin100 on February 17, 2022, 06:18:41 PM

For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

That's why everything is in the hands now of his conditioning coach. There's no problem with his physical training but rather with his medical condition. Since that happened, I'm sure everyone in Casimero's team is now doing their best not to have the same experience.

It will be a disadvantage for Casimero if that condition happened when the fight is now approaching. A few days to a week's rest is not enough to ease the pain. We don't want that to happen.

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Good news, Casimero is now in the US to train for this upcoming fight. I just hope that Mo Heredia will still be his conditioning coach and nutritionist so that this time around no more problems that will occur during the weigh-in.

I just heard Jason Casimero (in tagalog) that they have a new promoter so this will eliminate the rumors that he will be back with MP Promotions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypjEbt13Ml8

Good news.

There is no turning back.

And if there are rumors about the match being canceled or delayed again, don't expect that to happen. The world is going back and most of the events are going on with the audiences.

Well, that's a motivation not just for Casimero but also for Butler.

No reason now for that fight to cancel unless Casimero will be under again on his viral health condition.

Let's trust his conditioning coach and nutritionist to do everything he got to make sure Casimero will be healthy until the scheduled date of the fight.

Hope his health will cooperate as the fight approaches. It's one last run for Casimero as failing to make the fight, he being a WBO champion will now be over.

Before the fight is about to happen but we didn't anticipate the delay or replacement which made to postpone his match. And that's why there's no turning back this time as his already there for the training.

Let's all just be positive and hope that things on him would come normal and healthy.

He's going to prove himself again and despite that it's like stop and go for him for the past months, he's now back!

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Good news.
There is no turning back.
And if there are rumors about the match being canceled or delayed again, don't expect that to happen. The world is going back and most of the events are going on with the audiences.
Well, that's a motivation not just for Casimero but also for Butler.

The fight has been delayed and we want this fight to happen as soon as possible because there are lots of possibilities if Casimero wins this fight by knockout. He can challenge more strong boxers or go for a championship match-up in the higher-weight division. either way, I'm glad that he is returning back again and we can see more of his boxing skill this upcoming fight. Hope that he will not play or underestimate his health condition again and he continue to put his effort to make this fight looks good for the fans. We already know that he badly wants to fight Inoue, maybe they will have some discussion or negotiation after this fight.

He will definitely look at his weight issues, and regardless of who is going to be his nutritionist, he/she will have to take it a closer look because Casimero has problems before. And it seems he is getting world class nutritionist so maybe that issue will be eliminated now. And so he can focus more on the fight itself and go for a knock out victory.

Casimero, have been preparing for this match since last year even before he was diagnosed with a viral gastritis. So there's nothing to worry about the fight as we know he already got it instead he should focus more about his health, because if he will neglect it then it will get worse until the fight happens and it will be a huge problem.

But knowing that he is now have the "world class" nutritionist then I bet he can now balance things up without worrying too much because he already have someone to look about his health prior to the fight.

For having that on their team then provably we cannot see him encounter the same health issue again and I'm sure that Casimero will always look at his health also train more harder as he have a huge fight await after this. But if he cannot make the fight between Inoue to happen but atleast he can also fight Donaire since this is also what fans speculated fight to see for sure many people will also get hype if this fight is in discussion between them.

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I'm sure he will not fail this time, they are both given a long period to prepare for the fight, so there should be no problem in the fight, whatever the excuse of Casimero even if it's true, there's still a chance that he will lose the belt and that is so painful for him and for the fans.

Let's see how this will be going to take place because of course we really do wanting to see Casimero in his healthiest body by now because this fight has been postponed for a quite sometime now. The period that Butler and Casimero has been using for preparation was been a long time now and with that being said if the second delay if probably should not going to happen if it will again because of Casimero then there will be no room for him to any other considerations came from WBO management.

The fight will be this coming April 2022, lots of time to prepare to make sure this fight will happen, and Casimero being the one who missed the first fight due to a health problem, should understand that he can't miss twice.

Actually, if he has a problem with his weight, then better vacant the title and move up, if he has the skills he'll surely become a champion again but in a higher division.

Looks like April will be a great Month for the boxing fans since I also hear other great boxer to have match on April. Well, Casimero is a great boxer he should do everything to make this match happen, this is his last chance better be healthy and have a consistent training to avoid any problem again.

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