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What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

This is just a speculation without any basis, and WBO has the authority to do this.
Actually even before this ordered Inoue and Casimero was already in talk regarding their matches, we’re almost there but news suddenly appear and the talk didn’t push through. Let’s wait for the result of this match first, Inoue and Casimero will happen in time.

No need to wait for the result of this fight as it will not happen, Casimero won't be fighting Butler anymore and he got stripped of his belt because he was not able to show up due to Viral Gastritis. What I'm saying is if Casimero will fight as a challenger and WBA ordered Inoue to fight him, then there's no excuse for Inoue not to fight him, unless like Casimero he wants his belt to get stripped of.

Intentional or not. we dont know on what are the things circling around on Casimeros mind but we do already have the idea on whats gonna happen on most probably case.
Lets attached some links in regarding to this.
https://mb.com.ph/2021/12/10/casimero-unable-to-make-weight-out-of-title-defense-vs-butler/
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/12/10/22827638/john-riel-casimero-out-fight-paul-butler-may-be-stripped-wbo-title-agbeko-probellum-boxing-news-2021

What a disaster, many fights are being canceled or delayed due to different factors, if Casimero is really sick I would prefer if he was not stripped from his title as it was not his fault to get sick and it is something that can happen to everyone, however if this is some kind of tactic to try to avoid fighting Butler because he does not like the money he was to receive or because he fears Butler then he needs to be stripped of his title as he is undeserving of it.

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That's the news now, and getting stripped of his belt is really big for him, so he will come back strong to reclaim that belt. This is bad for him and for the Filipino boxing community as although some may not like his trash talking but we are still proud of him since he brings honor to our country.

^ And that is why he keeps trash talking because he knows that despite t bad words that come out of his mouth still there are his countrymen supporting him whatever happens which is not good if he continues doing trash talk. Trash talk is more often used for the weak people and I hope even if he was throwing those trash talk he can still be able to win. The fight is near close and let us see and wait who will gonna win or there is someone who will eat those trash talks he had thrown away.

Don't take that trash talk seriously, it's just his way of selling his fight and he was very effective on that. Just in this fight against Butler, we didn't hear him doing some trash talking and maybe that's not a good idea as the fight did not happen, and he paid a huge price which he lose his belt.

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WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

Well I don't think that any boxer such as Casimero's caliber will fake his medical condition just to get away from the fight. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now and hopefully they can show the proof that he has the virus indeed.

Maybe Casimero will really need to wait if he is going to be stripped or not of the belt, if yes then he will have to fight his way back again so that we can see a fight between him and Inoue.

I understand but it's unprofessional to just announce that Casimero won't make it to the weigh-in on the exact date where every people involved are now in the weigh-in location including media. If there's a problem, they should ping the WBO a few days before the weigh-in. It's not something that the medical condition just happened on the day of the weigh-in.

Well, if the issue is legit, no problem for Casimero's camp to show medical proof.

You couldnt tell that they should tell it earlier because there are condition or situations which could really happen on a particular day unexpectedly even

most of people would tell that it wouldnt really be a coincidence but rather an intent to have some excuses.All of those murmurs around would be wiped

out if the team of Casimero would really provide out some solid proof and shows that they are not making any excuses or alibis.
Really disappointing on this part but there are things which could really happen.

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This is an unfortunate event and his fight against Inoue might not push through anymore, he is having a hard time making the weight and he'll have to a higher division and the fight with Inoue cold happen at a higher weight category, I'm sure he can show proof of his medical condition, Casimero is the kind of fighter that will not make an excuse just for the fight not to continue, he is known as a journeyman, who loves to fight and beat his opponents at their territory.

I just read the news about this and it can affect his reputation and seriously, many are disappointed because of his behavior and his self-discipline, many says that this is his Karma for every trash talk he throws and for being so arrogant, well we cannot blame them on this. Hopefully, he can still manage to get more fit and become more healthy, if ever he'll go on a higher division if he stay longer on that position.

It happened already, let's just wish the best for him as Casimero has been giving honor to our country. This is one of his challenges, and I'm sure he will be able to surpass it and he will be back in the place where he belongs, and that is being a champion. Don't worry about the loss of chance to fight Inoue as they will eventually fight against each other in the future.

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Quote from: robelneo on December 11, 2021, 05:05:43 AM

This is an unfortunate event and his fight against Inoue might not push through anymore, he is having a hard time making the weight and he'll have to a higher division and the fight with Inoue cold happen at a higher weight category, I'm sure he can show proof of his medical condition, Casimero is the kind of fighter that will not make an excuse just for the fight not to continue, he is known as a journeyman, who loves to fight and beat his opponents at their territory.

I just read the news about this and it can affect his reputation and seriously, many are disappointed because of his behavior and his self-discipline, many says that this is his Karma for every trash talk he throws and for being so arrogant, well we cannot blame them on this. Hopefully, he can still manage to get more fit and become more healthy, if ever he'll go on a higher division if he stay longer on that position.

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WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

Well I don't think that any boxer such as Casimero's caliber will fake his medical condition just to get away from the fight. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now and hopefully they can show the proof that he has the virus indeed.

Maybe Casimero will really need to wait if he is going to be stripped or not of the belt, if yes then he will have to fight his way back again so that we can see a fight between him and Inoue.

I understand but it's unprofessional to just announce that Casimero won't make it to the weigh-in on the exact date where every people involved are now in the weigh-in location including media. If there's a problem, they should ping the WBO a few days before the weigh-in. It's not something that the medical condition just happened on the day of the weigh-in.

Well, if the issue is legit, no problem for Casimero's camp to show medical proof.

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This is an unfortunate event and his fight against Inoue might not push through anymore, he is having a hard time making the weight and he'll have to a higher division and the fight with Inoue cold happen at a higher weight category, I'm sure he can show proof of his medical condition, Casimero is the kind of fighter that will not make an excuse just for the fight not to continue, he is known as a journeyman, who loves to fight and beat his opponents at their territory.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 10, 2021, 06:07:51 PM

WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

Well I don't think that any boxer such as Casimero's caliber will fake his medical condition just to get away from the fight. I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now and hopefully they can show the proof that he has the virus indeed.

Maybe Casimero will really need to wait if he is going to be stripped or not of the belt, if yes then he will have to fight his way back again so that we can see a fight between him and Inoue.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 10, 2021, 06:07:51 PM

When the scheduled fight is now close, something will happen. There's another change now as Casimero won't be able to fight Butler now because the former wasn't able to weigh in because of his medical condition. He was now replaced by another boxer and the main event will push through.

WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

That's really unfortunate that he is now going to be stripped on his belt.

And this is what I'm saying before, he is so brandish in trash talking and now he gets to lose the belt? Karma is really a bitch.

Will he still be continue his trash talking? he is no longer the champion so for sure the fight with Inoue will not happen unless he get back his belt and wait for the winner of Butler vs Agbeko.

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There's no official word yet from the WBO whether Johnriel Casimero has been stripped of his title after a no-show in the weigh-in reportedly due to viral gastritis

source: https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/casimero-out-of-world-title-defense-butler-gets-agbeko-as-new-opponent/

I hope that he get well soon as I still want to see him fight, and I guess he would not be strip with the title since the reason for no-show is valid, it's justs that it killed our excitement to see him fight again.

According to this article though:

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The 31-year-old Filipino was stripped of his title after being forced to back out of his mandatory defense against England's Paul Butler on Saturday by viral gastritis.

https://www.spin.ph/boxing/casimero-stripped-of-wbo-title-prior-to-fight-against-butler-a793-20211210

Maybe he was having difficulty making the weight and that's why gastritis suddenly pop up in his stomach. But this is just an inflammation so there are cure. However, if the WBO are going to strip him then it's really too bad for him for losing it by not fighting.

I disagree though, it's a virus, maybe what Casimero consume lead him to contract this virus.

Anyhow, all Filipinos are shocked to hear that after waiting for Casimero, he will go down because of a viral gastritis.

And for the record, the replacement Joseph Agbeko is a good boxer in my opinion. But I think he is already old so still very close fight here and maybe he can pull an upset, or maybe he will be the favorite in this fight.

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Quote from: crzy on December 10, 2021, 07:16:33 PM

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When the scheduled fight is now close, something will happen. There's another change now as Casimero won't be able to fight Butler now because the former wasn't able to weigh in because of his medical condition. He was now replaced by another boxer and the main event will push through.

WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

Most probably they are saying the truth and not just to make a scene, medical condition is something that needs to address properly and if its true I’m doubting for a match between Casimer and Inoue. Well, this is very unfortunate and I hope that it cannot affect the reputation of Casimero especially if they manipulate things here.

10 days is actually long wait just for the medical proof. Because if this is indeed is true, and it was said that Casimero was hospitalized, then, submitting docs would not be a problem.
But if this is just a tactic not to fight, then, it is Casimero's loss because he will be stripped of the tile if proven that he is just giving a scapegoat.
We all know that the prized money on this fight is just basically the minimum bid, so don't know if it is one of the reasons here.
But yeah, let's wait about the official announcement because if it is not, don't think that Casimero's followers will still be the same.

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Quote from: agustina2 on December 10, 2021, 06:07:51 PM

When the scheduled fight is now close, something will happen. There's another change now as Casimero won't be able to fight Butler now because the former wasn't able to weigh in because of his medical condition. He was now replaced by another boxer and the main event will push through.

WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

Most probably they are saying the truth and not just to make a scene, medical condition is something that needs to address properly and if its true I’m doubting for a match between Casimer and Inoue. Well, this is very unfortunate and I hope that it cannot affect the reputation of Casimero especially if they manipulate things here.

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When the scheduled fight is now close, something will happen. There's another change now as Casimero won't be able to fight Butler now because the former wasn't able to weigh in because of his medical condition. He was now replaced by another boxer and the main event will push through.

WBO gives Casimero's camp 10 days for medical proof that he is unable to fight Butler. Let's wait for Casimero's camp to show the proof.

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 10, 2021, 05:23:43 PM

That's the news now, and getting stripped of his belt is really big for him, so he will come back strong to reclaim that belt. This is bad for him and for the Filipino boxing community as although some may not like his trash talking but we are still proud of him since he brings honor to our country.

^ And that is why he keeps trash talking because he knows that despite t bad words that come out of his mouth still there are his countrymen supporting him whatever happens which is not good if he continues doing trash talk. Trash talk is more often used for the weak people and I hope even if he was throwing those trash talk he can still be able to win. The fight is near close and let us see and wait who will gonna win or there is someone who will eat those trash talks he had thrown away.

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What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

This is just a speculation without any basis, and WBO has the authority to do this.
Actually even before this ordered Inoue and Casimero was already in talk regarding their matches, we’re almost there but news suddenly appear and the talk didn’t push through. Let’s wait for the result of this match first, Inoue and Casimero will happen in time.

No need to wait for the result of this fight as it will not happen, Casimero won't be fighting Butler anymore and he got stripped of his belt because he was not able to show up due to Viral Gastritis. What I'm saying is if Casimero will fight as a challenger and WBA ordered Inoue to fight him, then there's no excuse for Inoue not to fight him, unless like Casimero he wants his belt to get stripped of.

Intentional or not. we dont know on what are the things circling around on Casimeros mind but we do already have the idea on whats gonna happen on most probably case.
Lets attached some links in regarding to this.
https://mb.com.ph/2021/12/10/casimero-unable-to-make-weight-out-of-title-defense-vs-butler/
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/12/10/22827638/john-riel-casimero-out-fight-paul-butler-may-be-stripped-wbo-title-agbeko-probellum-boxing-news-2021

That's the news now, and getting stripped of his belt is really big for him, so he will come back strong to reclaim that belt. This is bad for him and for the Filipino boxing community as although some may not like his trash talking but we are still proud of him since he brings honor to our country.

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What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

This is just a speculation without any basis, and WBO has the authority to do this.
Actually even before this ordered Inoue and Casimero was already in talk regarding their matches, we’re almost there but news suddenly appear and the talk didn’t push through. Let’s wait for the result of this match first, Inoue and Casimero will happen in time.

No need to wait for the result of this fight as it will not happen, Casimero won't be fighting Butler anymore and he got stripped of his belt because he was not able to show up due to Viral Gastritis. What I'm saying is if Casimero will fight as a challenger and WBA ordered Inoue to fight him, then there's no excuse for Inoue not to fight him, unless like Casimero he wants his belt to get stripped of.

Intentional or not. we dont know on what are the things circling around on Casimeros mind but we do already have the idea on whats gonna happen on most probably case.
Lets attached some links in regarding to this.
https://mb.com.ph/2021/12/10/casimero-unable-to-make-weight-out-of-title-defense-vs-butler/
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/12/10/22827638/john-riel-casimero-out-fight-paul-butler-may-be-stripped-wbo-title-agbeko-probellum-boxing-news-2021

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Quote from: samcrypto on December 10, 2021, 04:49:06 PM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on December 10, 2021, 04:27:07 PM

What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

This is just a speculation without any basis, and WBO has the authority to do this.
Actually even before this ordered Inoue and Casimero was already in talk regarding their matches, we’re almost there but news suddenly appear and the talk didn’t push through. Let’s wait for the result of this match first, Inoue and Casimero will happen in time.

No need to wait for the result of this fight as it will not happen, Casimero won't be fighting Butler anymore and he got stripped of his belt because he was not able to show up due to Viral Gastritis. What I'm saying is if Casimero will fight as a challenger and WBA ordered Inoue to fight him, then there's no excuse for Inoue not to fight him, unless like Casimero he wants his belt to get stripped of.

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Quote from: goaldigger on December 10, 2021, 04:44:09 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on December 10, 2021, 04:27:07 PM

What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

This is just a speculation without any basis, and WBO has the authority to do this.
Actually even before this ordered Inoue and Casimero was already in talk regarding their matches, we’re almost there but news suddenly appear and the talk didn’t push through. Let’s wait for the result of this match first, Inoue and Casimero will happen in time.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on December 10, 2021, 04:27:07 PM

What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

WBO ordered Casimero to fight another boxer so technically, they have the rules fo follow and that’s what happen here, I can’t see any connection with Inoue though since this is not the first time WBO did this. Though if Casimero win on this match, there’s a high possibility that Inoue will fight him.

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What if this is only his strategy to be a mandatory challenger of Inoue, sorry for this wild imagination of mine. I was just thinking maybe he was tired of calling Inoue and he did not have the fight, so instead, he tries to be the challenger so the organization will order Inoue to fight, does that makes sense? correct me if I'm wrong.

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