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Quote from: Yaunfitda on December 03, 2021, 07:17:59 AM

Why not, but you have to analysis if the underdog has a good real chance to pull an upset. We've seen that in Kambosos, he is not afraid of Lopez pre-fight and the way he talks, you know that something big is going to come out with that fight.

So far we haven't heard any from Butler yet, so I would say that Casimero chances to win are very high given the fact that he can knock out anyone in this division. It might be good for us bettors though to time the right round in which Casimero will knockout Butler.

It's tough to call for that kind of bet. Butler also has that power, but likewise, he is so quiet and maybe he is more on preparing for this fight to provide a value for viewers' money.

The chance of winning is always on both sides, though the odds favor the defending champ, and in this case, Casimero holds the belt.

We will witness everything when the fight starts and these two fighters already showcasing their talents inside the ring. Wink

Most of us are bias because we support Casimero in this fight, however, I agree that anything could happen, upset happen in other matches, so no exception for this match if Casimero will not show his dominance. Maybe I will just wait for more market on this fight, I just can't take the Casimero ML as it's not worth my money, Casimero by decision is probably worth if the odds will be at least 1.70.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on December 03, 2021, 07:17:59 AM

Why not, but you have to analysis if the underdog has a good real chance to pull an upset. We've seen that in Kambosos, he is not afraid of Lopez pre-fight and the way he talks, you know that something big is going to come out with that fight.

So far we haven't heard any from Butler yet, so I would say that Casimero chances to win are very high given the fact that he can knock out anyone in this division. It might be good for us bettors though to time the right round in which Casimero will knockout Butler.

It's tough to call for that kind of bet. Butler also has that power, but likewise, he is so quiet and maybe he is more on preparing for this fight to provide a value for viewers' money.

The chance of winning is always on both sides, though the odds favor the defending champ, and in this case, Casimero holds the belt.

We will witness everything when the fight starts and these two fighters already showcasing their talents inside the ring. Wink

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

Even if it's like this I will still stay true to my previous choice.
On the other hand, I feel like the underdog always surprises me well.
In any case I see the butler more than anything but Casimero will be my choice no matter what.

I hope there is something that makes me more excited about my choice Cheesy

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

But his point is that he doesn't want to have an upset so why would he bet on Butler?

In any case, I would agree that upset is possible, just like what happen in the Lopez vs Kambosos fight. But the question is, does Butler have what it takes to pull one of the biggest upset in his division and a stunning win against the much touted Casimero? Based on what we have seen so far, the chances are very slim to none.

Sometimes we just want to play around and bet on the underdog in case the fight will result in the opposite of our expectation. Me, I'm not a true fan but I am not loyal to my favorite fighter when it comes to gambling, so seeing odds like 15 or 20, I guess that would really entice some gamblers to betray their favorite to win.

Why not, but you have to analysis if the underdog has a good real chance to pull an upset. We've seen that in Kambosos, he is not afraid of Lopez pre-fight and the way he talks, you know that something big is going to come out with that fight.

So far we haven't heard any from Butler yet, so I would say that Casimero chances to win are very high given the fact that he can knock out anyone in this division. It might be good for us bettors though to time the right round in which Casimero will knockout Butler.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 02, 2021, 09:38:32 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

But his point is that he doesn't want to have an upset so why would he bet on Butler?

In any case, I would agree that upset is possible, just like what happen in the Lopez vs Kambosos fight. But the question is, does Butler have what it takes to pull one of the biggest upset in his division and a stunning win against the much touted Casimero? Based on what we have seen so far, the chances are very slim to none.

Just in case an upset will happen, at least he wins a bit from the huge odds. It's not back with the right analysis though, I'm just saying that we take chances on these high odds, maybe we will win big, who knows, right?

But, if you will ask me, I'm betting on Casimero with a decent amount on the odds that I find reasonable, and play a bit Butler to upset, of course with the odds that I mentioned.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 02, 2021, 10:42:13 PM

Sometimes we just want to play around and bet on the underdog in case the fight will result in the opposite of our expectation. Me, I'm not a true fan but I am not loyal to my favorite fighter when it comes to gambling, so seeing odds like 15 or 20, I guess that would really entice some gamblers to betray their favorite to win.

It's unavoidable to see fans to bet against their favorite in terms of decent odds.

Though there are other options instead of betting with the ML but there are times that you will be betting against the fighter that you

mostly betting, if you see chances that the other party has that chance to win., As gambler, it's still fine to bet to whoever you think

have that got the capabilities but most of it to who will give you good odds as you value your money as always.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on December 02, 2021, 11:31:24 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

Given that there is only 3% in favor winning for casimero but would you choose betting instead to Butler? i think it is still reasonable to bet for Casimero mate and yes either make a Bet or deny in this fight .

You have a choice to decide because there are more upcoming fight so best to not put on this one and try your luck in Donaire's fight .

But i think I'm gonna try in this one for casimero because i wanted Him to Win and fight Inoue , but of course will use smaller amount than i planned if the Odds are good .

If you are not satisfied with the odds, just sit this fight and enjoy with beer while watching the fight. Casimero will likely win this fight but that 1.03 looks not attractive to me, so I might look for another betting option with higher hoods or will just stay away from betting in this fight.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

Given that there is only 3% in favor winning for casimero but would you choose betting instead to Butler? i think it is still reasonable to bet for Casimero mate and yes either make a Bet or deny in this fight .

You have a choice to decide because there are more upcoming fight so best to not put on this one and try your luck in Donaire's fight .

But i think I'm gonna try in this one for casimero because i wanted Him to Win and fight Inoue , but of course will use smaller amount than i planned if the Odds are good .

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 02, 2021, 09:38:32 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

But his point is that he doesn't want to have an upset so why would he bet on Butler?

In any case, I would agree that upset is possible, just like what happen in the Lopez vs Kambosos fight. But the question is, does Butler have what it takes to pull one of the biggest upset in his division and a stunning win against the much touted Casimero? Based on what we have seen so far, the chances are very slim to none.

Sometimes we just want to play around and bet on the underdog in case the fight will result in the opposite of our expectation. Me, I'm not a true fan but I am not loyal to my favorite fighter when it comes to gambling, so seeing odds like 15 or 20, I guess that would really entice some gamblers to betray their favorite to win.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 02, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

But his point is that he doesn't want to have an upset so why would he bet on Butler?

In any case, I would agree that upset is possible, just like what happen in the Lopez vs Kambosos fight. But the question is, does Butler have what it takes to pull one of the biggest upset in his division and a stunning win against the much touted Casimero? Based on what we have seen so far, the chances are very slim to none.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 02, 2021, 09:29:31 AM

The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

Casimero is only 1.03, there's no way bettors will take that odds, that's too risky if you put a big amount just to get 3% as your win. Upset is possible, so we also have to be open for that, but if you want to make sure you can ride with it, you should put a little bet, maybe you'll get 18-20 odds for Butler to win by decision as that's the only way I see Butler could win if he will not get KO by Casimero early.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 01, 2021, 04:40:26 PM

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

Well I guess both Paul Butler and Casimero has an impressive record, both are also doing their best on their training to perform the best fight they could in their upcoming battle but yeah I think this time Paul Butler will be more concern about the quality of opponent he's going to face. I haven't visit some bookies yet but with the number you've mentioned it was totally a huge gap, also it seems that Casimero is the crowd favorite but anything is possible. Can't wait to watch the game live on screen and see which fighter will going to win.

I'm sure Casimero will win this one, we won't be seeing another upset this year so this is going to be tough fro Butler as he never faced someone like Casimero before, if he is aggressive, then does Casimero and it could end early if Butler will trie to go toe to toe against him.

Good luck to him, he need this kind of fight to prove that he can be a big challenger to Inoue, a KO win would attract the attention of the fans and hence will improve the chance of a fight between Inoue. The odds clearly favored Casimero to win so please no upset so the fans will also not get upset.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 01, 2021, 08:26:46 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 01, 2021, 04:40:26 PM

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

Well I guess both Paul Butler and Casimero has an impressive record, both are also doing their best on their training to perform the best fight they could in their upcoming battle but yeah I think this time Paul Butler will be more concern about the quality of opponent he's going to face. I haven't visit some bookies yet but with the number you've mentioned it was totally a huge gap, also it seems that Casimero is the crowd favorite but anything is possible. Can't wait to watch the game live on screen and see which fighter will going to win.

I'm sure Casimero will win this one, we won't be seeing another upset this year so this is going to be tough fro Butler as he never faced someone like Casimero before, if he is aggressive, then does Casimero and it could end early if Butler will trie to go toe to toe against him.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 01, 2021, 04:40:26 PM

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

Well I guess both Paul Butler and Casimero has an impressive record, both are also doing their best on their training to perform the best fight they could in their upcoming battle but yeah I think this time Paul Butler will be more concern about the quality of opponent he's going to face. I haven't visit some bookies yet but with the number you've mentioned it was totally a huge gap, also it seems that Casimero is the crowd favorite but anything is possible. Can't wait to watch the game live on screen and see which fighter will going to win.

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Quote from: Questat on December 01, 2021, 08:57:39 AM

Butler has 33-2 record, maybe his fight highlights are not so impressive but he has the capacity to beat Casimero.
His 2 losses are coming from Emmanuel Rodriguez and Zolani Tete, and he has never lose a single fight since 2018 (after his loss to Emmanuel Rodriguez)

I'm excited now knowing that the fight is less than 2 weeks from now.
Hopefully, free live streaming will be shared.

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

Do you mean crypto bookies? Can you share a site that is already offering the odds now? I checked last night and I could not find a crypto site that has the betting odds yet, so I might be looking at the wrong site.

here are some of the crypto betting sites that has the odds already.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/casimero-johnriel-vs-butler-paul-61a7d6173719bbfa0169f6c2
https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/30769645-casimero-johnriel-vs-butler-paul

I checked on stake.com but I could not find the specific fight yet.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 01, 2021, 04:40:26 PM

Quote from: Questat on December 01, 2021, 08:57:39 AM

Butler has 33-2 record, maybe his fight highlights are not so impressive but he has the capacity to beat Casimero.
His 2 losses are coming from Emmanuel Rodriguez and Zolani Tete, and he has never lose a single fight since 2018 (after his loss to Emmanuel Rodriguez)

I'm excited now knowing that the fight is less than 2 weeks from now.
Hopefully, free live streaming will be shared.

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

Wow, that huge odds for Butler to begin with and it seems bookies are not giving him a chance to win against Casimero.

But who wouldn't? Casimero has been tearing this division since he got the belt and this is just a mandatory fight so the disparity in the odds. But yeah, it's better to wait for other betting options to open so that we will have a selection specially to choose a better odds for this fight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 01, 2021, 04:40:26 PM

Quote from: Questat on December 01, 2021, 08:57:39 AM

Butler has 33-2 record, maybe his fight highlights are not so impressive but he has the capacity to beat Casimero.
His 2 losses are coming from Emmanuel Rodriguez and Zolani Tete, and he has never lose a single fight since 2018 (after his loss to Emmanuel Rodriguez)

I'm excited now knowing that the fight is less than 2 weeks from now.
Hopefully, free live streaming will be shared.

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

Do you mean crypto bookies? Can you share a site that is already offering the odds now? I checked last night and I could not find a crypto site that has the betting odds yet, so I might be looking at the wrong site.

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Quote from: Questat on December 01, 2021, 08:57:39 AM

Butler has 33-2 record, maybe his fight highlights are not so impressive but he has the capacity to beat Casimero.
His 2 losses are coming from Emmanuel Rodriguez and Zolani Tete, and he has never lose a single fight since 2018 (after his loss to Emmanuel Rodriguez)

I'm excited now knowing that the fight is less than 2 weeks from now.
Hopefully, free live streaming will be shared.

Paul Butler's 33-2 record is impressive but the problem for him is the quality of opponents he had faced. Only Emmanuel Rodriguez and Solane Tete are popular (at least to the boxing world) and he losses to both of them. While Casimero has fought battles all over the world and never loses one, this might be his advantage over Butler IMO.

Some bookies have already the odds, Casimero 1.03, Butler 9.40.
A very huge underdog, I will be waiting for more options as there will be some in the next few days before the fight.

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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

This is why people like sports in general, very few people gave Kambosos any chance to win that fight, after all many people thought of Lopez as one of the best boxers around the world, but since he clearly lost against Kambosos then that evaluation had to be reconsidered, so while I think that Casimero should be the obvious favorite here the same could happen to him if he is not careful and underestimates his opponent.

This is boxing where both fighters have the same level of trainings and conditioning so technically they both have the chance to win its just that Casimero is being the crowd favorite but still, he can be defeated by Butler if he plays without being care. Having the right mindset on this match is the key to win, let’s see if Butler will become more aggressive compare to Casimero.

That match of Kambosos vs Lopez was really unexpected but it happened, and it can happen to anyone as long as its your time to win. Casimero have to be more careful on this because for me his whole career is at stake here especially he’s aiming to fight Inoue, a lose here means no more Inoue so better to give his all on this match, Butler is not an easy opponent here.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 01, 2021, 04:00:44 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on November 28, 2021, 03:54:09 PM

^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

This is why people like sports in general, very few people gave Kambosos any chance to win that fight, after all many people thought of Lopez as one of the best boxers around the world, but since he clearly lost against Kambosos then that evaluation had to be reconsidered, so while I think that Casimero should be the obvious favorite here the same could happen to him if he is not careful and underestimates his opponent.

This is boxing where both fighters have the same level of trainings and conditioning so technically they both have the chance to win its just that Casimero is being the crowd favorite but still, he can be defeated by Butler if he plays without being care. Having the right mindset on this match is the key to win, let’s see if Butler will become more aggressive compare to Casimero.

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