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Now for Butler, he seems not that relying on his pure defensive skills. We will see him exchanging fist with Casimero and I'm sure of that.

And I'm sure there's also a knockout if he would go toe to toe against Casimero. Well, that is better so the fight will end early and since I'm backing Casimero to win, then I would always love to see that kind of action in the ring as I know my man will win.

But that's not gonna happen since if they do that for sure they will get more damage which is dangerous to both of them and I also believe Casimero's opponent will not let it happen knowing that Casimero has a power punch and he proves already that he can knock out his opponent if there's a chance shown, We would provably see a good action here.

Butler also believes in his power, he has 15 KO wins in this career so that tells he can knockout anymore and Casimero should not be an exception as he is not an undefeated fighter. When two boxers are aggressive, we can always expect a KO and I'm expecting that in this fight, I would not change my prediction.

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This is why I want to watch this fight, Butler is not going to run away from Casimero, he is going to look for him and try to punch him on his face even if Casimero has good counter-punching abilities, so this means we are going to see a fight in which a punch could be more than enough to change everything, while Rigo and many others use a more defensive style that while effective it is nowhere near as spectacular, and as such it is not as favored by the fans.

Maybe that's the reason why bookies have placed an odds which is very small if you bet for Casimero to win via knockout because the probability of this one ending in a knockout is too high. Butler's chin is not too durable, we have seen that how Tete KOed him and we all knew that Casimero is a brawler and once his punch touches that chin, Butler's face could touch the canvass as well.

One thing that go for Casimero is that he is more of the active fighter here, so there will be no ring rust so for here he can still go and knock out Butler here.

Yes, Butler's chin has been tested already including Tete in which Casimero knock out. So the chances are high for Casimero to get a knock out win again. Just a matter which round.

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But I will go against the odds and bet for Casimero to win by decision @3.2, hoping that Butler could stand the Casimero barrage.

Good luck, seems you are lucky going against the odds. If Butler can stand Casimero's barrage then he is one lucky guy, or his chin is going to hold which I doubt.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 07, 2021, 05:17:30 PM

Maybe that's the reason why bookies have placed an odds which is very small if you bet for Casimero to win via knockout because the probability of this one ending in a knockout is too high. Butler's chin is not too durable, we have seen that how Tete KOed him and we all knew that Casimero is a brawler and once his punch touches that chin, Butler's face could touch the canvass as well.

But I will go against the odds and bet for Casimero to win by decision @3.2, hoping that Butler could stand the Casimero barrage.

Good luck.
Well, on this occasion, you should really bet on what you think is going to happen. So if you think that it will go with a decision, bet on it. If you think that it will be a TKO, bet for it.
Just enjoy the bets that you'll make on this match and whatever the result is, just accept it lightly.

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

Watching some of Butler's highlights, it's clear that he has a different style compared to Rigo. Even during Rigo's prime, he is really known to be more of a defensive type that's why he has that movement until then. And now out of the prime, he will stick to that and it was proven when he do a marathon performance instead of a close fight against Casimero.

Butler won't do a performance the same with Rigo. He will face Casimero face-to-face. A test of who's much stronger.

This is why I want to watch this fight, Butler is not going to run away from Casimero, he is going to look for him and try to punch him on his face even if Casimero has good counter-punching abilities, so this means we are going to see a fight in which a punch could be more than enough to change everything, while Rigo and many others use a more defensive style that while effective it is nowhere near as spectacular, and as such it is not as favored by the fans.

Butler is an aggressive kind of fighter and i dont see that this man would be running or trying to be defensive just like on what Rigo had done so this is a bit interesting rather than into those previous fight of Casimero but i do agree on what been said that

he shouldnt really be that confident because this is an opponent which cant really be defeated easily thats why he should
really be watchful.

Wondering if he isnt flat footed now? Cheesy

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Quote from: Silberman on December 07, 2021, 03:58:16 PM

This is why I want to watch this fight, Butler is not going to run away from Casimero, he is going to look for him and try to punch him on his face even if Casimero has good counter-punching abilities, so this means we are going to see a fight in which a punch could be more than enough to change everything, while Rigo and many others use a more defensive style that while effective it is nowhere near as spectacular, and as such it is not as favored by the fans.

Maybe that's the reason why bookies have placed an odds which is very small if you bet for Casimero to win via knockout because the probability of this one ending in a knockout is too high. Butler's chin is not too durable, we have seen that how Tete KOed him and we all knew that Casimero is a brawler and once his punch touches that chin, Butler's face could touch the canvass as well.

But I will go against the odds and bet for Casimero to win by decision @3.2, hoping that Butler could stand the Casimero barrage.

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

Watching some of Butler's highlights, it's clear that he has a different style compared to Rigo. Even during Rigo's prime, he is really known to be more of a defensive type that's why he has that movement until then. And now out of the prime, he will stick to that and it was proven when he do a marathon performance instead of a close fight against Casimero.

Butler won't do a performance the same with Rigo. He will face Casimero face-to-face. A test of who's much stronger.

This is why I want to watch this fight, Butler is not going to run away from Casimero, he is going to look for him and try to punch him on his face even if Casimero has good counter-punching abilities, so this means we are going to see a fight in which a punch could be more than enough to change everything, while Rigo and many others use a more defensive style that while effective it is nowhere near as spectacular, and as such it is not as favored by the fans.

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Now for Butler, he seems not that relying on his pure defensive skills. We will see him exchanging fist with Casimero and I'm sure of that.

And I'm sure there's also a knockout if he would go toe to toe against Casimero. Well, that is better so the fight will end early and since I'm backing Casimero to win, then I would always love to see that kind of action in the ring as I know my man will win.

But that's not gonna happen since if they do that for sure they will get more damage which is dangerous to both of them and I also believe Casimero's opponent will not let it happen knowing that Casimero has a power punch and he proves already that he can knock out his opponent if there's a chance shown, We would provably see a good action here.

If that happened fans will surely love this fight, seeing both fighters exchanging punches and trying to knock their opponent down, basing from all those previous fights both are aggressive and they are willing to take every solid punches and try to match it up and bring more solid attacks.

Casimero is known to love that kind of action. Butler may satisfy him in challenging his strength.

A fight of stamina and how solid their cheek and faces. Grin

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

Watching some of Butler's highlights, it's clear that he has a different style compared to Rigo. Even during Rigo's prime, he is really known to be more of a defensive type that's why he has that movement until then. And now out of the prime, he will stick to that and it was proven when he do a marathon performance instead of a close fight against Casimero.

Butler won't do a performance the same with Rigo. He will face Casimero face-to-face. A test of who's much stronger.

And that's what we really like to see, mano-a-mano fight, so that it will be really exciting to watch and we get our money's worth.

Butler might play defense though, I see him trying to fight his way but when he taste Casimero power, he will go on survival mode, but Casimero will go and chase him.

And for sure this will not go to judges scorecard, Casimero power if landed to Butler might put him to sleep or technical knock out as the referee might stop it because Butler can't fight back.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 06, 2021, 07:13:08 PM

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Now for Butler, he seems not that relying on his pure defensive skills. We will see him exchanging fist with Casimero and I'm sure of that.

And I'm sure there's also a knockout if he would go toe to toe against Casimero. Well, that is better so the fight will end early and since I'm backing Casimero to win, then I would always love to see that kind of action in the ring as I know my man will win.

But that's not gonna happen since if they do that for sure they will get more damage which is dangerous to both of them and I also believe Casimero's opponent will not let it happen knowing that Casimero has a power punch and he proves already that he can knock out his opponent if there's a chance shown, We would provably see a good action here.

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and Casimero by decision at 3.20

I will likely consider betting this line. This is a good bet as based on my observation, the fight will end up in a Decision in favor of Casimero regardless of whether it's a majority or a split. Hard to decide if I will pick instead of the exact round and winning method for Casimero to take a much more profit.

If no change to odds like it will lower, I will bet at Casimero winning by Decision at 3.20. Hoping it will increase even slightly before the match.

There's a good chance that odds increase by a huge multiplier during a match when the opponent team is in lead and are likely going to win.

I've seen odds go up by at least 90x on sports betting but winning by that number is nearly impossible when the team is at that advantage so it's unlikely you'll win but you'll have a high chance to win 90x on dice.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 06, 2021, 05:59:08 PM

and Casimero by decision at 3.20

I will likely consider betting this line. This is a good bet as based on my observation, the fight will end up in a Decision in favor of Casimero regardless of whether it's a majority or a split. Hard to decide if I will pick instead of the exact round and winning method for Casimero to take a much more profit.

If no change to odds like it will lower, I will bet at Casimero winning by Decision at 3.20. Hoping it will increase even slightly before the match.

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Quote from: harizen on December 06, 2021, 06:12:12 PM

Now for Butler, he seems not that relying on his pure defensive skills. We will see him exchanging fist with Casimero and I'm sure of that.

And I'm sure there's also a knockout if he would go toe to toe against Casimero. Well, that is better so the fight will end early and since I'm backing Casimero to win, then I would always love to see that kind of action in the ring as I know my man will win.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on December 06, 2021, 04:03:35 PM

Unlike Rigo, it's more on defense and there's no action or solid exchanging of punches. What Rigo did is to keep running to make sure Casimero Will not knock him down

Honestly, that Rigo's defensive style is effective and working during his prime. The goal is to stay in defense and make his opponent come to him. While the opponent is busy looking for a chance to get in at Rigo's defense, he will now make some clean shots surprisingly to gain points then shifts right away into his defensive form and that includes running.

But with his age as no doubt it will affect any boxer's reflexes, it seems that he can't do it better now and as the result, he stay away and try to avoid Casimero to make the fight in a decision result as nowhere he can keep up with the points.

Now for Butler, he seems not that relying on his pure defensive skills. We will see him exchanging fist with Casimero and I'm sure of that.

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

Watching some of Butler's highlights, it's clear that he has a different style compared to Rigo. Even during Rigo's prime, he is really known to be more of a defensive type that's why he has that movement until then. And now out of the prime, he will stick to that and it was proven when he do a marathon performance instead of a close fight against Casimero.

Butler won't do a performance the same with Rigo. He will face Casimero face-to-face. A test of who's much stronger.

as the odds are heavily favouring casimero, i guess it is better to bet on ML for will the fight go the distance? yes is at 2.80, whereas no is at 1.34 in stake's odds. not really high but 2.80 is still good. they have high regards on casimero here that this will finished early.
but i think, i will go for yes, here, as butler is for me a better fighter than rigo. he may engage casimero inside the ring and try go toe-to-toe.

If you are looking for good odds, then take the yes as 2.80 is already a decent odds. However, I suggest that you bet on "Winner & round range", their you can find a better odds.

Casimero 1-3 5.20
Casimero 4-6 4.00

and Casimero by decision at 3.20

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

Watching some of Butler's highlights, it's clear that he has a different style compared to Rigo. Even during Rigo's prime, he is really known to be more of a defensive type that's why he has that movement until then. And now out of the prime, he will stick to that and it was proven when he do a marathon performance instead of a close fight against Casimero.

Butler won't do a performance the same with Rigo. He will face Casimero face-to-face. A test of who's much stronger.

as the odds are heavily favouring casimero, i guess it is better to bet on ML for will the fight go the distance? yes is at 2.80, whereas no is at 1.34 in stake's odds. not really high but 2.80 is still good. they have high regards on casimero here that this will finished early.
but i think, i will go for yes, here, as butler is for me a better fighter than rigo. he may engage casimero inside the ring and try go toe-to-toe.

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

Watching some of Butler's highlights, it's clear that he has a different style compared to Rigo. Even during Rigo's prime, he is really known to be more of a defensive type that's why he has that movement until then. And now out of the prime, he will stick to that and it was proven when he do a marathon performance instead of a close fight against Casimero.

Butler won't do a performance the same with Rigo. He will face Casimero face-to-face. A test of who's much stronger.

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I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

For pride and for the chance to take a good solid punch, Butler from those highlights is willing to go toe to toe.

Unlike Rigo, it's more on defense and there's no action or solid exchanging of punches. What Rigo did is to keep running to make sure Casimero

Will not knock him down. I do hope it will be a different fight. Butler is also capable in terms of landing solid combinations. Casimero needs to note

that down.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on December 06, 2021, 09:20:28 AM

I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

He can't do that, he needs to be as fast as Rigo in order for him to run away from Casimero and based on his fight highlights that I see, I don't see him as a quick fighter so Casimero has all the advantage, he got power and speed and it's just right to see him as a heavy favorite.

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Well it can happen, that is if Casimero will not be careful and be caught by a power shot that he is not expecting. But we all know that Casimero took calculated risk and his chin is very tough and hasn't been broken as far as I know. Maybe he will felt the punch but will remain up right.

And for sure Casimero has been eager to go back to the ring again after a dismay performance against Rigo. He is a crowd pleaser and for sure he will give us another spectacular boxing match if Butler is willing dance partner.

Casimero has that skill, even he's aggressive. He knows how to calculate and throw some test punches.

When he sees that he is more capable of exchanging punches, he will surely start attacking.
That good inspiration. The fight against Rigo didn't come out the way Casimero want.

Rigo's defense was superb in terms of preventing him from being KO. This time Casimero won't let that
to happen again.

If Butler would be like Rigo, then probably we will see another disappointing fight of Casimero. Rigo vs Casimero was a bad fight, Rigo washing throwing punches, he was just fighting and trying to survive in the fight, probably he felt the power of Casimero in the first round that's why he change his strategy and instead just about to get him while continue running throughout the fight.

Saw the odds in betja and they have a very wide gap.
Bookies are indeed in favor of Casimero here.

Is Butler really has low chance in this match?
Hoping that this is not the same as Rigo match, that's very disappointing.
More action is what we needed to make the fight interesting.

Hmm, I was also surprised to see the huge gap on the odds for Casimero and Butler.

Maybe sport bookies is really giving Butler a slim chance to win because Casimero has been knocking down his opponents very easy. And with their common opponents, Casimero knock him out while Butler lost to Tete.

I think it will be very different for Rigo, seen some highlights of Butler and he seems to we willing to engage and not run and play defense like Rigo. Of course, once he taste Casimero's power, he might go play defense but for sure he will love to go toe to toe.

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Is Butler really has low chance in this match?

No, it's just that the crowd is favoring Casimero and the bookies are also reliant on that so they can capitalize the margin in the bets for this match.

Bookmaker creates an odds based on what the crowd or majority of the fans think, so the odds is the reflection of what most of us think.

And those bettors that would love to bet against Casimero despite looking at the stats and popularity of him, it's an advantage for them if the odds are in favor. So even if there's a Casimero fan but don't like the odds and he would love to just gamble on this match, there are those that would be for Butler since the odds are good for them.

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We just can't really expect things the way we want them to happen. Let's just enjoy things that will happen for this match and for sure that whatever the outcome it comes, another emotion wave from us fans will come.

For sure it's not disappointing because Rigo does Mayweather style but Butler is a warrior who is aggressive in the ring.
I even think that the fight will end early, as to who will win, not sure.......

We'll see if the fight will end early but we don't know that for sure that's why it's just exciting as it is while we're waiting for the match to happen.

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