Topic: [Boxing]: Teofimo Lopez vs Pedro Campa - Aug 13 - page 11. (Read 8851 times)

I think a boxer that already won and have many belts, doesn't allowed to move into higher weight division since he didn't prove to everyone if he deserve to get those all belts and not just a fluke. Lopez choose Kambosos since he doesn't have any belt at that time and have a good record, which everyone will think the underdog is good enough to challenge a champion. If the champion choosing a boxer which ever losses, moreover the unknown boxer, the crowd will think it's cherry picked.

Yeah, he become undisputed when he fought Jose Ramirez, who has the WBO and WBC belt, and Josh have the WBA (Super), IBF and then The Ring.

Josh Taylor though has to gave up the other belts that's why it is vacant.

I have it covered here:  [Boxing]: Josh Taylor vs Jose Ramirez - May 22.  Didn't get that much attention back then, hehehe.

But since we have Lopez campaigning now in this division, it lit up and making some noise. And I've heard that one contender in this division who just won is calling Lopez already and his name is Arnold Barboza.

Teofimo Lopez made the necessary adjustment by hiring back Jorge Rubio, the man who contributed to his earlier success, and made him the Takeover guy now that they are back to each other Teofimo will continue his legacy as a takeover guy, let's admit it Teofimo is still a great fighter who is capable of beating in the superlightweight division, he just has to sober up and concentrate
on his goal.
He has learned a lot from his first loss and that will contribute to his maturity as a boxer, Pedro Campa is a good boxer but not equal to the level of Lopez, Teofimo needs to impress not only the boxing community but boxers in that division. 

Just like Ryan Garcia, he had some tune-up fight before the big fight, so this is probably the same because, in order for Lopez to challenge the champion, he should achieve a good ranking to be a mandatory challenger. I believe he will not be having a hard time achieving it, it only take a little time.

But this isn't a real test, you can tell by the betting odds alone that Lopez is the heavy favorite, therefore we can assume that majority of the fans believe that Lopez will easily win the fight. he is not fighting a champion, so it's not a big deal if he win this fight, but if he will, he should be ready for a bigger challenge agains a champion.

Wow, so there's only one champion in this division? It's a great opportunity for Lopez to get all that belt if he will beat Josh Taylor and he could be the reigning champion in this division if he would really does well. It will be a big challenge for Josh Taylor so I surely want to see Lopez getting to the top to challenge the best.

According here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/725709), Taylor is only an IBF and WBO champion, not sure if the list is updated or not.

I don't think Teofimo Lopez next fight is cherry-picked.  Looking at Pedro Campa's record of 34 wins 1 loss 1 draw where 23 of the 34 wins are KO, he is a dangerous boxer with a KO punching power.  This will be a dangerous fight for Teofimo especially when Teofimo came from the lighter weight category.  This fight will be a test of Teofimo whether he can withstand a heavy hitter of 140 lbs. 


I agree the fight against Campa is a test for him if he can absorb heavy punches from 140 lbs, the same way if his power is effective enough to KO the regulars of that weight category. I believe this is a great test for Teofimo Lopez since Campa aged 30 is still in his prime.

It's not easy though, of course only Taylor name was their because he was the undisputed, But he gave up obviously two of the belts already and it will be fought by former champion Jose Ramirez and Jose Zepeda, that will be a banger fight.

If 135 lbs is easy for Lopez, this 140 is very different league for him. Not saying that he won't survived, but there are a lot of live boxers that is more capable of being him even with a knock out.

Teo had not capitalized that win against Loma. After being inactive, loses his  fans and perhaps does need this tune up fight. Top  rank sees Campa a good candidate for Campa had also not fight outside Mexico for years. A typical Toprank looking for a boxer with a record that looks impressive but the fighters he faced are arguable if not weak.

Based on the list he only has to deal with Josh Taylor, Teofimo Lopez is still a great and skill full boxer and he can match what Josh Taylor can offer he will be a legit super lightweight if he beats Campa and will fave the way to challenge Taylor, he needs to be spectacular in this fight just like he did when is in the lightweight division.

Super lightweight/Junior welterweight
WBA: Vacant.
WBC: Vacant.
IBF: Josh Taylor.
WBO: Josh Taylor.
The Ring: Josh Taylor.

I agree, but him and his father really hated Loma that they ignore his request even if it can be made and with a lot of money too, but maybe they know that Loma might win in the rematch so they go and fight another fighter in Kambosos but it was a disaster for them.

But good about this fight is whether Teo can bring his power, if he did then he will be a good match for established champions and fighters in this division like Taylor, Zepeda and Ramirez or Paro. So maybe after this one, it could be on the next tier like Prograis, Sandor Martin or Jack Catterall.

Exactly, Kambasos gave him a match that he will not forget, I was even surprised that Lopez was expecting a win after the right even though he was hit by a lot of power punches from Kambasos. Lopez is not a real man, he should give Loma a rematch as a sign of respect for the old champion.

He can win against Campa but will probably struggle against a legit champion in this division.
Campa is probably a cherry-picked fight for Lopez IMO.

^^ I guess we have to include Loma in the discussion because that is Lopez best win in his career. But then again, Loma was injured, then he wanted to have a rematch, in which Lopez didn't want to. And Teo obviously chooses the wrong fight because Kambosos beat him badly.

And now that he is campaigning in a new division, again, a lot of good names in here so it will really expose Lopez on how good or how he is an average fighter. Against Campa, maybe we can say that he can win here, but against tougher a tougher natural welterweight, we will see how he will go against them.

Well, I'm sure he has a lot of haters when he disrespected Loma, but he did his homework, he beat Loma and that made him popular.

Actually, if we compare Loma to Kambasos, Loma is way better than him, but Lopez pulls up an upset against Loma. Anyway, that's already over, it happened in the past, so let's focus on the current fight of Lopez against Pedro Campa who is a huge underdog in this fight. So after a disappointing lose, I think Lopez would try to have an impressive win, so most likely we will see a KO outcome.

It was just an excuse I believe, Teofimo loves to trash talk, he even disrespected Loma and as a fan of Loma, I don't like this guy. He is too arrogant that he was not able to prepare well against Kambasos and that cost him one loss and not undefeated anymore. A new division for him, let's see if he really fits here, or will he makes an excuse again if he loses?

'I don't think Lopez has a problem at all in the super lightweight his alibi when he lost the fight against Kambosos was Lopez having a hard time in the lightweight division and they should have moved up earlier, Teofimo will be better in that division and he will make waves in that division and Campa will be his stepping stone in the super lightweight.
Although I don't rule out an upset Teofimo cannot afford to lose he is in a comeback trail and a very important comeback fight.

What do you need to know is favorited boxer will not always win and the underdog boxer will not always lose, since anything can happen inside the ring. Lopez had fought Lomachenko while at that time, Lomachenko is the favorited boxer and Lopez can beat him. Lopez had fought Kambosos, Lopez is the favorited boxer, but he didn't win the fight. Lopez is a good boxer, but he just don't have a good attitude and that make him lose against Kambosos.

Sometime a boxer have a trouble when he move to higher weight division, since this his first fight in super lightweight, it's still 50/50.

So Teofimo Lopez is now going to compete in a new division against Pedro Campa and I think Lopez is going to win as he is a fan favorite and also winning the odds according to OddsChecker (https://www.oddschecker.com/us/boxing-mma/boxing/teofimo-lopez-v-pedro-campa).

Maybe Pedro Campa can have a little height benefit in the ring but overall, I think Teofimo Lopez is going to win this.
Will update this once the fight is over, I am going to bet a little bit in regards to Lopez.

Yeah, for sure mate, so far from what I gather there is a also a co-feature event.

rising Puerto Rican star Xander Zayas vs Elias “Latin Kid” Espadas.

And in the undercard:

Andres “Savage” Cortes vs Abraham Montoya
Duke Ragan vs D’Angelo Fuentes
Troy Isley vs Victor Toney
Jose Enrique Vivas vs Edy Valencia

Maybe the undercard will be updated if there is some addition.

As much as most of us hate a big mouth athlete. I'm kind of okay with Lopez choosing Campa as his first fight in super-lightweight and kind of return bout after his loss to Kambosos. Earlier, undisputed champion Josh Taylor mentioned he will move up in welterweight, thus all 4 belts will become vacant. Teofimo was surprised no one from these 4 sanctioning bodies ranked him 1 or 2, so he can just fight for a vacant belt. Now, Josh Taylor wanted a rematch with Jack Catterall before finally settling into another division.

 
***From Wikipedia (boxrec ranking was removed)
***TBRB was made when The Ring was purchased by Golden Boy Promotions citing conflict of interest.

Here are the current ranks in the super-lightweight division. I'm surprised Campa is unranked. If we look at Campa's record, I can recognize world-ranked contenders Aaron Herrera, ex-champ Jose Alfaro, and Marvin Quintero. He probably entered the top 10 during those years. But after that 2017 upset loss, he was fighting nobodies. Teofimo should stop expecting high gains from this fight. Although knowing Teofimo's popular name, these 4 sanctioning bodies might improve his ranking soon, especially the WBO, a close organization with Top Rank.

The best scenario for Teofimo to fight for a vacant belt here is the WBO. Jose Ramirez might accept a rematch with heavy-hitter Jose Zepeda for the vacant WBC. And most likely Catterall loses his rematch with Josh Taylor and will lose his rank. Now Teofimo can fight Liam Paro for the vacant WBO. Although I'm still hoping for Jose Ramirez to abandon the WBC and just wait after the Taylor-Catterall fight, so he can fight Liam Paro. But maybe Catterall will beat Josh Taylor in their rematch after their controversial first fight.