[Boxing]: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter - Nov. 20 - page 7.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 12, 2021, 05:34:00 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 12, 2021, 05:34:00 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

True, because he was really protected by Top Rank and become Arum's one cash cow. However, as much as Terrence is really good and one of the best for me, he really need to get out and fight PBC welterweight because there's where the money is and of course the being recognise now and maybe he will be a house hold name amongst boxing fans.

I think the price is fair, it can't get higher than Canelo fight, it should be lower and that's what Top Rank did here.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 12, 2021, 05:34:00 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

If based on the sales in his previous match, then we can say he is not a big star as other boxers are making more than he is making, maybe one of the reasons is because he does not have a big fight against popular boxers so the interest is low on his fights. Crawford probably demanded a big fight and he gets one now although in betting lines he is a heavy favorite Porter is a tough opponent to crack which I'm sure it will not be easy for Crawford to win.

If Crawford wins this fight, he should go for a bigger one, probably a unificication figght, maybe with Ugas.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 12, 2021, 04:03:42 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on November 12, 2021, 01:46:30 AM

^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.

They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. Cheesy

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. Roll Eyes

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed Tongue

It's affordable for western countries, besides, they only target the USA and Europe I believe, so that's already enough to bring in the profit and make this fight happen. Promoters are smart with dealing with this fight, they give a little purse so the fighters will agree to fight but they know they can also make bigger money from PPV compared to the gate entrance.

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 12, 2021, 01:46:30 AM

^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.

They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. Cheesy

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. Roll Eyes

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed Tongue

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Quote from: Reatim on November 12, 2021, 07:45:36 AM

Quote from: Botnake on November 12, 2021, 07:25:51 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 12, 2021, 06:49:21 AM

^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.

This is the problem if the fight is near to the one popular event , the chances of gaining views and bets are lowering because the recent will surely took the place.
and also the popularity of these boxers are not that High in terms of fans and support , also there are some great fights to come after November and like me i would rather Bet on those than this one.

There's no problem with bettors as they'll put their money once they are interested on the fight and if they believe they can predict the winner correctly. We are talking about the PPV sales which I agree with you that this is less popular compared to the fight like Canelo vs Plant but I'm sure people will be also interested in this since this is a good fight and Crawford is gonna face a tougher opponent.

Bob is optimistic that this fight will get a good number of PPV.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/07/crawford-vs-porter-could-bring-in-strong-pay-per-view-numbers-says-bob-arum/

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I mean, look, Mayweather Promotions. They were jumping for joy after Gervonta Davis recently brought in 90,000 buys for his fight with Mario Barrios last June. If Crawford vs. Porter does 200,000 pay-per-view buys, they would be more than doubling Tank’s buys for the Barrios fight.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 12, 2021, 07:25:51 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 12, 2021, 06:49:21 AM

^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.

This is the problem if the fight is near to the one popular event , the chances of gaining views and bets are lowering because the recent will surely took the place.
and also the popularity of these boxers are not that High in terms of fans and support , also there are some great fights to come after November and like me i would rather Bet on those than this one.

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Quote from: Jating on November 12, 2021, 06:49:21 AM

^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.

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^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 12, 2021, 04:41:16 AM

So for me many can afford the PPV, just look at the live gate perhaps it is almost sold out by now.

That's right, if they can sell at least 1 million PPV subs, then that's already $70 million rounded off.

As reported by ESPN based on this article(https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-purses-revealed/), the total purse is only $10 million 60/40 - Crawford/Porter sharing.

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Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter purse
The WBO Welterweight title bout between the hard-hitting Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford and Shawn ‘Showtime’ Porter will attract a lot of PPV buys. ESPN reported the purse for the Welterweight showdown and guaranteed Terence Crawford upwards of $6 million. Meanwhile, Porter is set to earn at least $4 million.

So if they make enough sales on PPV, that would increase their potential income.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 12, 2021, 02:09:04 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2021, 01:34:03 AM

Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

That's low in USA and other countries where the hourly rate is around $10 to $15 USD, I'm sure they can afford that but for countries that are struggling right now due to the pandemic, that's a big amount already and that's why I'm thankful if someone would give a free stream in Facebook although are some advertisements from the streamings, at least it's free.

If you want to enjoy it without interruption, then probably buy the PPV, however, I think it's not available in all countries? correct me if I'm wrong.

I think they already have taken that into account that some countries can't watch and there could be bootleg and free streams like in Facebook.

And the obvious target here is North America audience and maybe as far as England and Middle East. Specially Middle East wherein it's now becoming a destination for big fights as well.

So for me many can afford the PPV, just look at the live gate perhaps it is almost sold out by now.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2021, 01:34:03 AM

Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

That's low in USA and other countries where the hourly rate is around $10 to $15 USD, I'm sure they can afford that but for countries that are struggling right now due to the pandemic, that's a big amount already and that's why I'm thankful if someone would give a free stream in Facebook although are some advertisements from the streamings, at least it's free.

If you want to enjoy it without interruption, then probably buy the PPV, however, I think it's not available in all countries? correct me if I'm wrong.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 12, 2021, 01:34:03 AM

Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

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^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.

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Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on November 06, 2021, 05:52:02 PM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 06, 2021, 11:40:23 AM

His a big underdog but we can't discount the fact that he might also pull an upset on Terrence Crawford.

Upset only the odds but actually not on the boxer's quality as even if Porter is not the current champion but as you said, he used to be a champion, so I'm sure he knows how to win. This must be a hard fight for Crawford (hope so) because Porter here has only one strategy which is to be more aggressive, pressure Crawford until he commits a mistake that might make him open for a good straight from Porter.

Sorry, I know I must be dreaming but just saying the possibility that others didn't see.

There you are completely right, he believes that with aggressiveness everything can be fixed in a ring, and although it is very necessary it is also prudent that boxing has a lot to do with intelligence, intelligence in a sport can define everything, because it can be managing times, strength, minimizing some efforts, it is known that you should not allow a knockout, but at some point in the fight the aggressiveness goes down, because fatigue is visible because at the beginning you only move by adrenaline, what happens is that the body soon takes its toll on you, and when it is more tired is when Crawaford will take advantage, for me the strategy is already defined, if there may be a surprise but sometimes it is obvious what could happen.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 06, 2021, 11:40:23 AM

His a big underdog but we can't discount the fact that he might also pull an upset on Terrence Crawford.

Upset only the odds but actually not on the boxer's quality as even if Porter is not the current champion but as you said, he used to be a champion, so I'm sure he knows how to win. This must be a hard fight for Crawford (hope so) because Porter here has only one strategy which is to be more aggressive, pressure Crawford until he commits a mistake that might make him open for a good straight from Porter.

Sorry, I know I must be dreaming but just saying the possibility that others didn't see.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 04, 2021, 07:50:08 PM

Quote from: stadus on November 01, 2021, 01:54:54 PM

Quote from: 24Kt on November 01, 2021, 12:31:42 PM

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

That's right anything can happen. The fight is not the same as the other fight we are seeing where the Underdog has no chance to upset the favorite. Shawn Porter is not a typical boxer and even how strong Terence Crawford is, there's a chance he can take down him.

The 5.40 odds for Porter is really putting him as a big underdog. I'm expecting at least an odds of 3 but sportsbook really looked below at Porter at most factors.

Definitely, Shawn Porter has a punching chance against Terence Crawford. He used to be a champion, so that already speaks volume on Porter as a boxer. And his style are very aggressive and really goes after his opponent regardless on who or what style his opponent have. As long as he can get inside and make them uncomfortable, he will do that. His a big underdog but we can't discount the fact that he might also pull an upset on Terrence Crawford.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 04, 2021, 07:50:08 PM

Quote from: stadus on November 01, 2021, 01:54:54 PM

Quote from: 24Kt on November 01, 2021, 12:31:42 PM

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

That's right anything can happen. The fight is not the same as the other fight we are seeing where the Underdog has no chance to upset the favorite. Shawn Porter is not a typical boxer and even how strong Terence Crawford is, there's a chance he can take down him.

The 5.40 odds for Porter is really putting him as a big underdog. I'm expecting at least an odds of 3 but sportsbook really looked below at Porter at most factors.

It's similar to the odds in the fight between Porter and Spence Jr., but the outcome is very surprising although Porter lose.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterkahn/2019/09/28/errol-spence-jr-vs-shawn-porter-odds-line-value-and-best-bets/

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The boxing odds at MyBookie have Spence as a prohibitive favorite at -860 (bet $860 to win $100) while Porter is a big underdog at +610 (bet $100 to win $610).

Maybe we can use that as a basis on betting for Crawford to win via decision only as most likely the fight will end in 12 rounds.

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