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but on the other hand what you say is true it is not easy to cure the retinal surgery that he did a few months ago. because this must be healed first and really healed because this is something important and so as not to cause things that are not wanted.
despite all that Thurman now still likes an ordinary life off the pitch.
actually I really want him to hurry up to fight again but it's possible he still wants to relax in his private life.

Just think about this, doctors are not going to clear Spence to fight if his eye is not fully healed 100%.

They won't simply allow him to box, simply as that. But if the healing process is so fast and that the doctors say no problem whatsoever they he is clear to fight, Crawford or Thurman.

But first we have to see what will be the result of this fight first. There's too much at stake for Crawford here, if he losses then all of his plan as put to drain.
I myself am optimistic about Crawford's victory actually because statistically he is superior in various aspects but experience is indeed on Porter's side here. I'm not moving though and I'd like to see Crawford on track to victory and ready to head towards a unified welterweight spence.
On the other hand, Spence has indeed been able to compete and the doctor has said that he is free and 100 percent cured but I think there will still be a slight difference that Spence will receive after this operation.
As optimistic as the bookie because he is currently-590 moneyline to win this fight, or let's say he is the heavy favorite to win.
https://edge.twinspires.com/boxing/crawford-vs-porter-betting-odds-preview-pick-nov-20/

He will likely win this fight but I like to see him respond to a tough challenger who knows nothing but attacks his opponent and bully his way.
Crawford has to find a way to counter Porter very well as he is quick and for sure he can find a timing to through a clean counter punch.


I think this is a great matchup for Crawford.  He is good at taking opponents aggressiveness and make it an advantage for him.  Porter just better hope he doesn't do him in.  I see Crawford putting Porter on the floor with a counter flurry.  Can't wait for the fight Crawford is one of my favorite boxers to watch right now.
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Crawford is quick, while Porter is maybe strong but he is very predictable, therefore it's easy for Crawford to avoid the power punches of Porter and he will just counter him  to score. If this fight ended up in the judges scorecards, then most likely Crawford will go home as the winner.
In most cases, the quicker fighter in the ring gets the higher chance of winning.

Just like Manny Pacquiao, his quickness is his key to victory and he was able to become a legend becoming an 8th division champion and with his quickness, he was able to beat bigger opponents, and not only that, it looks very easy on his part.

Yes, as what they say in boxing as proven by Manny "speed kills". But I don't see Crawford as like Manny though in terms of speed, he just throw short burst of punch and that's it, maybe it's the timing and not really that speed. But against Porter who is super aggressive, it will be very evident.

Specially if he does this counterpunching and not allowing Porter to take charge like a bull. Crawford will be the matador, his moves very calculated.

He has to do that so he will not get tired in the fight, Porter is known to be a bull in the ring and he does not respect the power of his opponent. Look how Spence struggles against Porter, though Spence was the heavy favorite but he really work hard just to win in a split decision against Porter. Maybe it will be different in this fight, but Porter has proven he can go toe to toe against a champion and Crawford is not gonna be an exemption.
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Crawford is quick, while Porter is maybe strong but he is very predictable, therefore it's easy for Crawford to avoid the power punches of Porter and he will just counter him  to score. If this fight ended up in the judges scorecards, then most likely Crawford will go home as the winner.
In most cases, the quicker fighter in the ring gets the higher chance of winning.

Just like Manny Pacquiao, his quickness is his key to victory and he was able to become a legend becoming an 8th division champion and with his quickness, he was able to beat bigger opponents, and not only that, it looks very easy on his part.

Yes, as what they say in boxing as proven by Manny "speed kills". But I don't see Crawford as like Manny though in terms of speed, he just throw short burst of punch and that's it, maybe it's the timing and not really that speed. But against Porter who is super aggressive, it will be very evident.

Specially if he does this counterpunching and not allowing Porter to take charge like a bull. Crawford will be the matador, his moves very calculated.
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but on the other hand what you say is true it is not easy to cure the retinal surgery that he did a few months ago. because this must be healed first and really healed because this is something important and so as not to cause things that are not wanted.
despite all that Thurman now still likes an ordinary life off the pitch.
actually I really want him to hurry up to fight again but it's possible he still wants to relax in his private life.

Just think about this, doctors are not going to clear Spence to fight if his eye is not fully healed 100%.

They won't simply allow him to box, simply as that. But if the healing process is so fast and that the doctors say no problem whatsoever they he is clear to fight, Crawford or Thurman.

But first we have to see what will be the result of this fight first. There's too much at stake for Crawford here, if he losses then all of his plan as put to drain.
I myself am optimistic about Crawford's victory actually because statistically he is superior in various aspects but experience is indeed on Porter's side here. I'm not moving though and I'd like to see Crawford on track to victory and ready to head towards a unified welterweight spence.
On the other hand, Spence has indeed been able to compete and the doctor has said that he is free and 100 percent cured but I think there will still be a slight difference that Spence will receive after this operation.
As optimistic as the bookie because he is currently-590 moneyline to win this fight, or let's say he is the heavy favorite to win.
https://edge.twinspires.com/boxing/crawford-vs-porter-betting-odds-preview-pick-nov-20/

He will likely win this fight but I like to see him respond to a tough challenger who knows nothing but attacks his opponent and bully his way.
Crawford has to find a way to counter Porter very well as he is quick and for sure he can find a timing to through a clean counter punch.
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but on the other hand what you say is true it is not easy to cure the retinal surgery that he did a few months ago. because this must be healed first and really healed because this is something important and so as not to cause things that are not wanted.
despite all that Thurman now still likes an ordinary life off the pitch.
actually I really want him to hurry up to fight again but it's possible he still wants to relax in his private life.

Just think about this, doctors are not going to clear Spence to fight if his eye is not fully healed 100%.

They won't simply allow him to box, simply as that. But if the healing process is so fast and that the doctors say no problem whatsoever they he is clear to fight, Crawford or Thurman.

But first we have to see what will be the result of this fight first. There's too much at stake for Crawford here, if he losses then all of his plan as put to drain.
I myself am optimistic about Crawford's victory actually because statistically he is superior in various aspects but experience is indeed on Porter's side here. I'm not moving though and I'd like to see Crawford on track to victory and ready to head towards a unified welterweight spence.
On the other hand, Spence has indeed been able to compete and the doctor has said that he is free and 100 percent cured but I think there will still be a slight difference that Spence will receive after this operation.
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Crawford is quick, while Porter is maybe strong but he is very predictable, therefore it's easy for Crawford to avoid the power punches of Porter and he will just counter him  to score. If this fight ended up in the judges scorecards, then most likely Crawford will go home as the winner.
In most cases, the quicker fighter in the ring gets the higher chance of winning.

Just like Manny Pacquiao, his quickness is his key to victory and he was able to become a legend becoming an 8th division champion and with his quickness, he was able to beat bigger opponents, and not only that, it looks very easy on his part.
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I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  Grin
Even I pick Crawford, but I'm not underestimating Porter isn't good boxer since he's an underdog here. As you mentioned Porter is tough and experienced, there's chance will be upset but probably I'm not confident since he fight with Crawford.

Crawford is insane his last 5 fights win by TKO, but I guess this fight he will win in unanimous decision... it's hard to knock down Porter.
Agree, Porter hasn't been solidly knock down or knock out in his career, it's all like he was knock down due to fatigue in the fight. So I doubt that Crawford can put a dent on Porter's chin here unless he really hit him so hard that he didn't expect it.

So this might be ended up in a UD for Crawford, but a very tough and rugged fight for him. It will not be an easy fight. Porter might win a couple of rounds as well.

Porter is not an easy fighter, more on aggressive type of style. If Crawford mismanages him, the chance of knocking him down is also possible.

But, I can say if we will see the same Crawford in this fight, ending this with UD is much expected,
he knows how to control when he thinks that he can lose the fight, he will adjust and play the safe style.

He can do some jabs and then move away from Porter to avoid hitting him with a wild shot,
the kind of punches that can take him down.

Crawford is quick, while Porter is maybe strong but he is very predictable, therefore it's easy for Crawford to avoid the power punches of Porter and he will just counter him  to score. If this fight ended up in the judges scorecards, then most likely Crawford will go home as the winner.
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I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  Grin
Even I pick Crawford, but I'm not underestimating Porter isn't good boxer since he's an underdog here. As you mentioned Porter is tough and experienced, there's chance will be upset but probably I'm not confident since he fight with Crawford.

Crawford is insane his last 5 fights win by TKO, but I guess this fight he will win in unanimous decision... it's hard to knock down Porter.
Agree, Porter hasn't been solidly knock down or knock out in his career, it's all like he was knock down due to fatigue in the fight. So I doubt that Crawford can put a dent on Porter's chin here unless he really hit him so hard that he didn't expect it.

So this might be ended up in a UD for Crawford, but a very tough and rugged fight for him. It will not be an easy fight. Porter might win a couple of rounds as well.

Porter is not an easy fighter, more on aggressive type of style. If Crawford mismanages him, the chance of knocking him down is also possible.

But, I can say if we will see the same Crawford in this fight, ending this with UD is much expected,
he knows how to control when he thinks that he can lose the fight, he will adjust and play the safe style.

He can do some jabs and then move away from Porter to avoid hitting him with a wild shot,
the kind of punches that can take him down.
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As far as I know the contract between Top Rank and Crawford is up until October of this year.

So I'm not sure if Crawford has sign an extension, or if this is the last fight under contract. That's why it's quite surprising to see Crawford getting a PBC boxer for the first time and one of the toughest in the field.

Based on Crawford's camp statement even before, it's more likely that they will not extend the contract under Bob Arum's Top Rank Promotion. Since then, Crawford didn't have a chance to fight a top boxer and that's their request for a long time. Shawn Porter might be considered as one of the popular names but that's not enough to consider as "top" by Crawford camp "based on my own view".

Surely, we can expect an update about that after their bout - if Crawford wins.

That's right, this is the last fight of Crawford under Top rank promotion if he will not renew the contract. It's not a problem for him to look for other promoters as surely there are many who are just waiting for him and they could give a good offer to Crawford just to get him on board.

Bob Arum discusses prospect of continuing to promote Terence Crawford after Shawn Porter fight

If Crawford is dreaming on fighting the best then he should take the risk not to renew under Top Rank as the reason why rumors came out that he is looking for a new promoter is because he is not satisfied on the time he work with Top rank.

This is so true mate, he really need not to sign another contract with Top Rank, he can be a freelancer so that he can fight whoever he wants. Top Rank doesn't have the best welwerweight in the division, it's all on the PBC or Al Haymon stable.

Or he can sign with Al with all the good money and then he can fight them with no problem. He is also not getting any younger, he still has like good 3-4 fights in him. He shouldn't waste it fighting bums.
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I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  Grin
Even I pick Crawford, but I'm not underestimating Porter isn't good boxer since he's an underdog here. As you mentioned Porter is tough and experienced, there's chance will be upset but probably I'm not confident since he fight with Crawford.

Crawford is insane his last 5 fights win by TKO, but I guess this fight he will win in unanimous decision... it's hard to knock down Porter.
Actually for me Underdogs fighters are the one to look out because they sometimes beat the champ and make their name on the top sooner.

We have seen some of them becomes one of the most popular and named boxers now.

But like you I am betting for Crawford in this one because i have been looking for the man in the last few years of his career.
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I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  Grin
Even I pick Crawford, but I'm not underestimating Porter isn't good boxer since he's an underdog here. As you mentioned Porter is tough and experienced, there's chance will be upset but probably I'm not confident since he fight with Crawford.

Crawford is insane his last 5 fights win by TKO, but I guess this fight he will win in unanimous decision... it's hard to knock down Porter.
Agree, Porter hasn't been solidly knock down or knock out in his career, it's all like he was knock down due to fatigue in the fight. So I doubt that Crawford can put a dent on Porter's chin here unless he really hit him so hard that he didn't expect it.

So this might be ended up in a UD for Crawford, but a very tough and rugged fight for him. It will not be an easy fight. Porter might win a couple of rounds as well.
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I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  Grin
Even I pick Crawford, but I'm not underestimating Porter isn't good boxer since he's an underdog here. As you mentioned Porter is tough and experienced, there's chance will be upset but probably I'm not confident since he fight with Crawford.

Crawford is insane his last 5 fights win by TKO, but I guess this fight he will win in unanimous decision... it's hard to knock down Porter.
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This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.
The fight is completely unpredictable since both fighters have the chance to beat each other whether in knockout or decision. More likely both of them will exchange powerful punches in the early rounds which will lead to the end fight earlier than expected. We are one week away from the fight and everyone is excited to see them fight especially Crawford where he hasn't been active in the right after his last fight.
I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  Grin
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That's right, this is the last fight of Crawford under Top rank promotion if he will not renew the contract. It's not a problem for him to look for other promoters as surely there are many who are just waiting for him and they could give a good offer to Crawford just to get him on board.

Bob Arum discusses prospect of continuing to promote Terence Crawford after Shawn Porter fight

If Crawford is dreaming on fighting the best then he should take the risk not to renew under Top Rank as the reason why rumors came out that he is looking for a new promoter is because he is not satisfied on the time he work with Top rank.

He's not getting the big fight that he deserves, the Pacquiao and the Spence fights slips because he is under Bob Arum who is known to cherry-picked opponents for his prizefighters, he should be like Canelo, who's a free agent and can deal against big names, that is why he is on top of the standing in the pound for pound standing, once he gets out of Arum the negotiation against Spence or Ugas will be easy if you want to be the best you have to fight the best.
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As far as I know the contract between Top Rank and Crawford is up until October of this year.

So I'm not sure if Crawford has sign an extension, or if this is the last fight under contract. That's why it's quite surprising to see Crawford getting a PBC boxer for the first time and one of the toughest in the field.

Based on Crawford's camp statement even before, it's more likely that they will not extend the contract under Bob Arum's Top Rank Promotion. Since then, Crawford didn't have a chance to fight a top boxer and that's their request for a long time. Shawn Porter might be considered as one of the popular names but that's not enough to consider as "top" by Crawford camp "based on my own view".

Surely, we can expect an update about that after their bout - if Crawford wins.

That's right, this is the last fight of Crawford under Top rank promotion if he will not renew the contract. It's not a problem for him to look for other promoters as surely there are many who are just waiting for him and they could give a good offer to Crawford just to get him on board.

Bob Arum discusses prospect of continuing to promote Terence Crawford after Shawn Porter fight

If Crawford is dreaming on fighting the best then he should take the risk not to renew under Top Rank as the reason why rumors came out that he is looking for a new promoter is because he is not satisfied on the time he work with Top rank.
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As far as I know the contract between Top Rank and Crawford is up until October of this year.

So I'm not sure if Crawford has sign an extension, or if this is the last fight under contract. That's why it's quite surprising to see Crawford getting a PBC boxer for the first time and one of the toughest in the field.

Based on Crawford's camp statement even before, it's more likely that they will not extend the contract under Bob Arum's Top Rank Promotion. Since then, Crawford didn't have a chance to fight a top boxer and that's their request for a long time. Shawn Porter might be considered as one of the popular names but that's not enough to consider as "top" by Crawford camp "based on my own view".

Surely, we can expect an update about that after their bout - if Crawford wins.
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^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

Agreed. A convincing victory with a knockout for Terence Crawford might force Bob Arum to agree for a superfight versus Spence. However, I reckon an unspectacular win with a decision versus Shawn Porter should be adequate to give Crawford the attention and the contract for a superfight.
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I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.
We probably need to hear from Spence camp first if he can already fight, he underwent an operation on his eye so most likely it requires a certain time to get healed, or worst if he can't fight anymore because of his delicate operation.

on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.
I guess I like to see Keith Thurman in the ring again, fighting with Crawford, this would be a great fight and I'll gladly put a bet on the underdog which is obviously Thurman.
but on the other hand what you say is true it is not easy to cure the retinal surgery that he did a few months ago. because this must be healed first and really healed because this is something important and so as not to cause things that are not wanted.
despite all that Thurman now still likes an ordinary life off the pitch.
actually I really want him to hurry up to fight again but it's possible he still wants to relax in his private life.

Just think about this, doctors are not going to clear Spence to fight if his eye is not fully healed 100%.

They won't simply allow him to box, simply as that. But if the healing process is so fast and that the doctors say no problem whatsoever they he is clear to fight, Crawford or Thurman.

But first we have to see what will be the result of this fight first. There's too much at stake for Crawford here, if he losses then all of his plan as put to drain.
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I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.
We probably need to hear from Spence camp first if he can already fight, he underwent an operation on his eye so most likely it requires a certain time to get healed, or worst if he can't fight anymore because of his delicate operation.

on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.
I guess I like to see Keith Thurman in the ring again, fighting with Crawford, this would be a great fight and I'll gladly put a bet on the underdog which is obviously Thurman.
but on the other hand what you say is true it is not easy to cure the retinal surgery that he did a few months ago. because this must be healed first and really healed because this is something important and so as not to cause things that are not wanted.
despite all that Thurman now still likes an ordinary life off the pitch.
actually I really want him to hurry up to fight again but it's possible he still wants to relax in his private life.
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^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

Arum waited too long to make it happen? I think if he wants to set up a fight between Crawford and Spence, they could have already arranged it before Spence meet a car accident. I have a feeling that Bob is trying to play safe as he is not sure if Crawford would win against Spence.

If Bob would always do that then most likely Crawford will not renew the contract with the top rank, it was reported that his contract will expire soon so he has a chance now to work with other promoters that could give him the fight that he is asking for. The job of the promoter is very crucial in building a fighter's career, but if it will result to not fighting the best, then it does not make a champion a real champion, if you know what I'm saying.

As far as I know the contract between Top Rank and Crawford is up until October of this year.

So I'm not sure if Crawford has sign an extension, or if this is the last fight under contract. That's why it's quite surprising to see Crawford getting a PBC boxer for the first time and one of the toughest in the field.

Yeah, the fight could have made with Spence before his injuries, but eventually it can still be arrange after this fight.
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