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By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

That's right anything can happen. The fight is not the same as the other fight we are seeing where the Underdog has no chance to upset the favorite. Shawn Porter is not a typical boxer and even how strong Terence Crawford is, there's a chance he can take down him.

The 5.40 odds for Porter is really putting him as a big underdog. I'm expecting at least an odds of 3 but sportsbook really looked below at Porter at most factors.

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however, witness the style of Crawford to change stance while moving back and jab hard on Porter’s face repeatedly during the whole fight.

Well, Crawford can really do that because he is fast, but why such a strategy? Do you think he is afraid of the power of Porter, that's why he just wants to take advantage of his speed and just score to win? What about expecting a KO from Crawford, what percent do you think he will get that kind of win?

Such strategy is needed by Crawford to avoid fatal punch from Porter, and because we all know that Porter isn't an ordinary underdog. It is just a precautionary measure.
He isn't afraid about Porter, he just want to land succesful jabs to gain points rather than box him toe-to-toe and look for KO slots. Crawford here have the speed and reach advantage against Porter, that's why he change his stance just to avoid Porter's heavy punch that could by chance results in his defeat. Currently, Crawford has a 76% KO rate in his whole career but for this match, I guess the KO rate won't go higher than 50 percent.

KO may not come easy for Crawford here because Porter is not like a substandard underdog. Porter has also some very good advantages. but looking at the odds, seems that bookies are pretty confident that crawford will win this match. if you are rooting for crawford, better look at odds in over/under as it may give you better profits than just betting on full time in favour of crawford.

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Quote from: Questat on November 04, 2021, 01:13:10 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 04, 2021, 12:23:43 AM

however, witness the style of Crawford to change stance while moving back and jab hard on Porter’s face repeatedly during the whole fight.

Well, Crawford can really do that because he is fast, but why such a strategy? Do you think he is afraid of the power of Porter, that's why he just wants to take advantage of his speed and just score to win? What about expecting a KO from Crawford, what percent do you think he will get that kind of win?

Such strategy is needed by Crawford to avoid fatal punch from Porter, and because we all know that Porter isn't an ordinary underdog. It is just a precautionary measure.
He isn't afraid about Porter, he just want to land succesful jabs to gain points rather than box him toe-to-toe and look for KO slots. Crawford here have the speed and reach advantage against Porter, that's why he change his stance just to avoid Porter's heavy punch that could by chance results in his defeat. Currently, Crawford has a 76% KO rate in his whole career but for this match, I guess the KO rate won't go higher than 50 percent.

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Quote from: Questat on November 04, 2021, 01:13:10 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 04, 2021, 12:23:43 AM

however, witness the style of Crawford to change stance while moving back and jab hard on Porter’s face repeatedly during the whole fight.

Well, Crawford can really do that because he is fast, but why such a strategy? Do you think he is afraid of the power of Porter, that's why he just wants to take advantage of his speed and just score to win? What about expecting a KO from Crawford, what percent do you think he will get that kind of win?

The word afraid does not exist in boxing, the fact that he fought Porter, means he believes that he can beat him. It's all about strategy and every boxer has strengths and weaknesses, so if Crawford sees that strategy as the best way for him to win, I would not doubt if he will do that, he just has to win, that's the goal, or as Floyd said, protect yourself at all times, avoid getting hit.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 04, 2021, 12:23:43 AM

however, witness the style of Crawford to change stance while moving back and jab hard on Porter’s face repeatedly during the whole fight.

Well, Crawford can really do that because he is fast, but why such a strategy? Do you think he is afraid of the power of Porter, that's why he just wants to take advantage of his speed and just score to win? What about expecting a KO from Crawford, what percent do you think he will get that kind of win?

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^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

True, no article would be published if that rumor did not happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938967-manny-pacquiao-vs-terence-crawford-a-head-to-toe-breakdown

I guess if it has happened it could be one of the best fights to witness and though Manny struggles against Ugas, it could be different if it's against Crawford as Crawford is not tall and does not have the height advantage over Manny.

I would really like to see that fight, is it possible for it to happen? Crawford is an excellent boxer, but with Manny there would be other levels of fighting that will be seen, as you say, we will see that there is no height advantage here, I say advantage because I consider that in boxing having height is a plus, Some say no, but it is a guarantee of having longer arms and long legs that if they know how to synchronize well the speed would be greater, although if the shorter boxer is faster then it is not noticeable, I hope this type of fight can be given .

I don't think we will see that fight to happen anymore as Pacquiao already retires from boxing. Too bad, this Crawford or Spence Jr vs Pacquiao didn't happen. I guess, these 2 boxers are regretting the missed chance of fighting the legend. It should have been a very good addon on their boxing career. And now, Ugas was the last fighter who managed to fight with Pacquiao.

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

You have the freedom to make the bet hehehe. The sportsbooks made those odds high for a good reason. This is to persuade you hehehehe.

Terence Crawford is the best boxer who can fight in orthodox and southpaw stances. Shawn Porter will attack and attack, however, witness the style of Crawford to change stance while moving back and jab hard on Porter’s face repeatedly during the whole fight.

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^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

True, no article would be published if that rumor did not happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938967-manny-pacquiao-vs-terence-crawford-a-head-to-toe-breakdown

I guess if it has happened it could be one of the best fights to witness and though Manny struggles against Ugas, it could be different if it's against Crawford as Crawford is not tall and does not have the height advantage over Manny.

I would really like to see that fight, is it possible for it to happen? Crawford is an excellent boxer, but with Manny there would be other levels of fighting that will be seen, as you say, we will see that there is no height advantage here, I say advantage because I consider that in boxing having height is a plus, Some say no, but it is a guarantee of having longer arms and long legs that if they know how to synchronize well the speed would be greater, although if the shorter boxer is faster then it is not noticeable, I hope this type of fight can be given .

I don't think we will see that fight to happen anymore as Pacquiao already retires from boxing. Too bad, this Crawford or Spence Jr vs Pacquiao didn't happen. I guess, these 2 boxers are regretting the missed chance of fighting the legend. It should have been a very good addon on their boxing career. And now, Ugas was the last fighter who managed to fight with Pacquiao.

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

The truth is a pity, a boxer in the style of Pacquiao is very few today, if we take into account that the new boxers or those who are of this new generation have maintained a sustainable level, of course nothing to do with what was seen in The Olympics that seemed to me the most boring in the world, for now the bets if they are at x4.75 is something very juicy if the result is achieved, it is certainly something very tempting, and based on the fact that anything can happen, it is not Bad business.

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Shawn Porter's odds are increasing. The bookies think that Shawn Porter is just an easy match for Terence Crawford but the former is also a tough boxer on their weight class. What's actually their basis and factors on that kind of odds. I'm confused.

Or maybe just a trap for the gamblers? It's confusing now to pick who will win with a good money return.

it is really tempting to place bet on Porter here especially we are seeing a lot of upsets this year. the ML odds in some casinos are even reaching up to 6.25x for Porter. so if you are closely following Porter's prep here and you are confident that he has the chance to beat Crawford, you can easily bet on him.
bookies are really favouring Crawford here, seems they are not considering the caliber of Porter as a boxer also. so more than couple of weeks and we will see another good boxing match...

Bookies are more detailed in terms of analysis. It is impossible they do not consider the caliber of Porter. It's just that upon consideration, it is very obvious Crawford has the higher possibility of winning. From the point the odds are released by the bookies, it is now the bettors' money flowing in that will determine whether the odds will continue to favor the favorite or the underdog. In this case, the money is clearly flowing into Crawford's side, that's why Porter's odds are still increasing until now.

That's where the smart money is going to flow, to Crawford side because he has a high chance to win here. Not taking anything from Porter though, yes this is a step up match for Crawford, but I think Crawford has the advantage is all department here, even Porter's aggressiveness can be negate by Crawford's timing as he has the ability to fight going backwards. So if Porter tries to go inside, Crawford will pot shot him every time.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 01, 2021, 07:45:04 PM

Shawn Porter's odds are increasing. The bookies think that Shawn Porter is just an easy match for Terence Crawford but the former is also a tough boxer on their weight class. What's actually their basis and factors on that kind of odds. I'm confused.

Or maybe just a trap for the gamblers? It's confusing now to pick who will win with a good money return.

it is really tempting to place bet on Porter here especially we are seeing a lot of upsets this year. the ML odds in some casinos are even reaching up to 6.25x for Porter. so if you are closely following Porter's prep here and you are confident that he has the chance to beat Crawford, you can easily bet on him.
bookies are really favouring Crawford here, seems they are not considering the caliber of Porter as a boxer also. so more than couple of weeks and we will see another good boxing match...

Bookies are more detailed in terms of analysis. It is impossible they do not consider the caliber of Porter. It's just that upon consideration, it is very obvious Crawford has the higher possibility of winning. From the point the odds are released by the bookies, it is now the bettors' money flowing in that will determine whether the odds will continue to favor the favorite or the underdog. In this case, the money is clearly flowing into Crawford's side, that's why Porter's odds are still increasing until now.

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Quote from: chaser15 on November 01, 2021, 07:45:04 PM

Shawn Porter's odds are increasing. The bookies think that Shawn Porter is just an easy match for Terence Crawford but the former is also a tough boxer on their weight class. What's actually their basis and factors on that kind of odds. I'm confused.

Or maybe just a trap for the gamblers? It's confusing now to pick who will win with a good money return.

it is really tempting to place bet on Porter here especially we are seeing a lot of upsets this year. the ML odds in some casinos are even reaching up to 6.25x for Porter. so if you are closely following Porter's prep here and you are confident that he has the chance to beat Crawford, you can easily bet on him.
bookies are really favouring Crawford here, seems they are not considering the caliber of Porter as a boxer also. so more than couple of weeks and we will see another good boxing match...

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By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

The reputation of Shawn Porter is not the kind of underdog if we looked at it as a whole. I'm with you that he has the chance to upset Crawford and make a possible big upset in the history of boxing. Taking 5.40 is worth it for me but still can decide if I will take it. Do anyone here will take that odds?

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Quote from: stadus on November 01, 2021, 01:54:54 PM

Quote from: 24Kt on November 01, 2021, 12:31:42 PM

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

Shawn Porter's odds are increasing. The bookies think that Shawn Porter is just an easy match for Terence Crawford but the former is also a tough boxer on their weight class. What's actually their basis and factors on that kind of odds. I'm confused.

Or maybe just a trap for the gamblers? It's confusing now to pick who will win with a good money return.

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For now, no. Manny Pacquiao is busy with a lot of things. Lots of distractions now. Not closing the book as we know Pacquiao, he can change his mind anytime. If he will lose in the upcoming election for the Presidency of the PH republic next year, I'm 80% sure he will come back from retirement for the simple reason that, he just wants to come back.

Manny Pacquiao is 42 years old and he is in the fight game in entire life and he does not want to prove anything to the world and he is considered as the legend in boxing and hopefully he stay retired because he is busy with his political life and even if he looses when someone looses focus on fighting it will be really difficult to make a comeback at 40 plus.

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Actually, this was the first time I think a boxer with an odds of 4.75 can make an upset to the heavy favorites. Shawn Porter is not a considered underdog for me. If you want to risk one on his provided decent odds, it's worth trying.

Buster Douglas was the biggest underdog win i know in boxing as he was 42 to 1 underdog against Mike Tyson and he won the fight.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 01, 2021, 12:09:31 PM

I would really like to see that fight, is it possible for it to happen?

For now, no. Manny Pacquiao is busy with a lot of things. Lots of distractions now. Not closing the book as we know Pacquiao, he can change his mind anytime. If he will lose in the upcoming election for the Presidency of the PH republic next year, I'm 80% sure he will come back from retirement for the simple reason that, he just wants to come back.

Quote from: 24Kt on November 01, 2021, 12:31:42 PM

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Actually, this was the first time I think a boxer with an odds of 4.75 can make an upset to the heavy favorites. Shawn Porter is not a considered underdog for me. If you want to risk one on his provided decent odds, it's worth trying.

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Quote from: 24Kt on November 01, 2021, 12:31:42 PM

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 29, 2021, 05:01:23 AM

^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

True, no article would be published if that rumor did not happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938967-manny-pacquiao-vs-terence-crawford-a-head-to-toe-breakdown

I guess if it has happened it could be one of the best fights to witness and though Manny struggles against Ugas, it could be different if it's against Crawford as Crawford is not tall and does not have the height advantage over Manny.

I would really like to see that fight, is it possible for it to happen? Crawford is an excellent boxer, but with Manny there would be other levels of fighting that will be seen, as you say, we will see that there is no height advantage here, I say advantage because I consider that in boxing having height is a plus, Some say no, but it is a guarantee of having longer arms and long legs that if they know how to synchronize well the speed would be greater, although if the shorter boxer is faster then it is not noticeable, I hope this type of fight can be given .

I don't think we will see that fight to happen anymore as Pacquiao already retires from boxing. Too bad, this Crawford or Spence Jr vs Pacquiao didn't happen. I guess, these 2 boxers are regretting the missed chance of fighting the legend. It should have been a very good addon on their boxing career. And now, Ugas was the last fighter who managed to fight with Pacquiao.

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 29, 2021, 07:27:43 AM

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 29, 2021, 05:01:23 AM

^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

True, no article would be published if that rumor did not happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938967-manny-pacquiao-vs-terence-crawford-a-head-to-toe-breakdown

I guess if it has happened it could be one of the best fights to witness and though Manny struggles against Ugas, it could be different if it's against Crawford as Crawford is not tall and does not have the height advantage over Manny.

I would really like to see that fight, is it possible for it to happen? Crawford is an excellent boxer, but with Manny there would be other levels of fighting that will be seen, as you say, we will see that there is no height advantage here, I say advantage because I consider that in boxing having height is a plus, Some say no, but it is a guarantee of having longer arms and long legs that if they know how to synchronize well the speed would be greater, although if the shorter boxer is faster then it is not noticeable, I hope this type of fight can be given .

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Quote from: Questat on October 29, 2021, 05:21:13 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 29, 2021, 05:01:23 AM

^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

True, no article would be published if that rumor did not happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938967-manny-pacquiao-vs-terence-crawford-a-head-to-toe-breakdown

I guess if it has happened it could be one of the best fights to witness and though Manny struggles against Ugas, it could be different if it's against Crawford as Crawford is not tall and does not have the height advantage over Manny.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 29, 2021, 05:01:23 AM

^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

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^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

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