[Boxing]: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter - Nov. 20 - page 6.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 14, 2021, 10:12:48 AM

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^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

Arum waited too long to make it happen? I think if he wants to set up a fight between Crawford and Spence, they could have already arranged it before Spence meet a car accident. I have a feeling that Bob is trying to play safe as he is not sure if Crawford would win against Spence.

If Bob would always do that then most likely Crawford will not renew the contract with the top rank, it was reported that his contract will expire soon so he has a chance now to work with other promoters that could give him the fight that he is asking for. The job of the promoter is very crucial in building a fighter's career, but if it will result to not fighting the best, then it does not make a champion a real champion, if you know what I'm saying.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 14, 2021, 04:00:46 AM

^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

Arum waited too long to make it happen? I think if he wants to set up a fight between Crawford and Spence, they could have already arranged it before Spence meet a car accident. I have a feeling that Bob is trying to play safe as he is not sure if Crawford would win against Spence.

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^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 13, 2021, 01:03:29 AM

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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

Perhaps we should take out Spence out of the equation for now. He is recovering from the eye operation, so for now the best welterweight could be Thurman, although he is not that active and it could back fire on him.

So if Terence Crawford wins here, he can't just call out Spence, and I'm definitely sure he will mention Thurman's name because in his previous interviews, he always believed that Keith is the best welterweight.

Errol Spence versus Terence Crawford will be one of boxing’s greatest superfights. Why is Bob Arum and others waiting for them to grow very old only to let them fight each other as older, slower boxers? Look at Amir Khan versus Kell Brook.

Also this news.

Errol Spence Jr. (27-0, 21 KOs) is dropping some big hints that he’ll face the winner of the November 20th fight between WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter.

Spence already made it clear last month what his intentions are by him saying that he ONLY wants to fight for a world title in his next contest, and he’s not interested in a tune-up.

Regardless of who wins that fight, you can expect Spence to enter the ring to challenge the winner. Ideally, Crawford (37-0, 28 KOs) will come out as the winner, which would set up the long-awaited unification fight between the two.

Source https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-could-face-crawford-vs-porter-winner/205138

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almost every vote counts to Crawford and the same as mine , this will end up to be a Knock out in early stage . and also Who is Shawn Porter? where did the organizer and association get this opponent when there are more great and worth fighting against Crawford.

Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2021, 07:20:23 PM

This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.

this kind of fight is also what i wanted to watch and follow , both boxers keeps their silence and will just give their everything in the fight.

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Quote from: yazher on November 13, 2021, 10:05:22 PM

The fight is completely unpredictable since both fighters have the chance to beat each other whether in knockout or decision. More likely both of them will exchange powerful punches in the early rounds which will lead to the end fight earlier than expected. We are one week away from the fight and everyone is excited to see them fight especially Crawford where he hasn't been active in the right after his last fight.

Referring on both fighters record either the chance of winning is by knock out or by unanimous decision every one were certain that the edge was high on favor for Terrence Crawford because we can see him a 0 loss record and it only shows how powerful he was in the ring in his past and recent fights. Though I didn't also looking down to the capability of Porter because his record is also good, maybe he has a loss records but it doesn't mean that he could not give a difficult fight on Crawford however the odds gap favor on Terrence is high. The main event is just 6 days away and I'm already excited to watch this game.

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Quote from: lienfaye on November 13, 2021, 10:45:24 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on November 13, 2021, 10:26:29 PM

It's probably the Shawn Porter has a lot of lost already, but it's a very close one.

As compare to Crawford, 0 loss, and is the champion.

So that's why the gap in odds are like that. But that's only in paper, we all now that Porter is more than that. Even Crawford that this could be very well his most difficult fight because of the style that Porter brings to this fight. Hard nose aggressive and very offensive fighter and willing to throw his body that's why he always win close fight.

I agree.

Crawford is skilled but Porter is tough so I think this fight will be competitive and unpredicted. They have both good background of their previous fights and even Crawford remain undefeated, its not going to be easy for him to beat Porter. What I like about Porter is, he is not running away and willing to fight anyone.

Yes, Porter style is like in the 50's or 60's black and white video we've seen. He is not running away from any of his fight and that's what make a Porter fight very exciting to watch.

And even if he is the underdog, he can still pull that surprises, like in the Ugas fight or even in the Danny Garcia fight. Both fights he won by his sheer aggressiveness and pushing it to those guys even if he is being hit.

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Quote from: Kemarit on November 13, 2021, 10:26:29 PM

It's probably the Shawn Porter has a lot of lost already, but it's a very close one.

As compare to Crawford, 0 loss, and is the champion.

So that's why the gap in odds are like that. But that's only in paper, we all now that Porter is more than that. Even Crawford that this could be very well his most difficult fight because of the style that Porter brings to this fight. Hard nose aggressive and very offensive fighter and willing to throw his body that's why he always win close fight.

I agree.

Crawford is skilled but Porter is tough so I think this fight will be competitive and unpredicted. They have both good background of their previous fights and even Crawford remain undefeated, its not going to be easy for him to beat Porter. What I like about Porter is, he is not running away and willing to fight anyone.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 13, 2021, 09:58:26 PM

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This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.

Everyone is expecting a close fight here but the gap on their odds is telling us that Shawn Porter isn't even in the same league as Terence Crawford.

I also don't understand why the odds are so gap. We know Crawford is the favorite here but Porter's odds can be considered as a too easy underdog without a chance that he will win the fight.

Is that how the analyst looked down at Porter?

It's probably the Shawn Porter has a lot of lost already, but it's a very close one.

As compare to Crawford, 0 loss, and is the champion.

So that's why the gap in odds are like that. But that's only in paper, we all now that Porter is more than that. Even Crawford that this could be very well his most difficult fight because of the style that Porter brings to this fight. Hard nose aggressive and very offensive fighter and willing to throw his body that's why he always win close fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2021, 07:20:23 PM

This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.

The fight is completely unpredictable since both fighters have the chance to beat each other whether in knockout or decision. More likely both of them will exchange powerful punches in the early rounds which will lead to the end fight earlier than expected. We are one week away from the fight and everyone is excited to see them fight especially Crawford where he hasn't been active in the right after his last fight.

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Quote from: coin-investor on November 13, 2021, 07:20:23 PM

This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.

Everyone is expecting a close fight here but the gap on their odds is telling us that Shawn Porter isn't even in the same league as Terence Crawford.

I also don't understand why the odds are so gap. We know Crawford is the favorite here but Porter's odds can be considered as a too easy underdog without a chance that he will win the fight.

Is that how the analyst looked down at Porter?

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And Terence Crawford really knows what's his up to his this fight:

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“He makes fights ugly. That’s what he do best,” Crawford noted during a live on-air interview with ESPN’s Mark Kriegel. “He got a skill of winning by any means necessary. If he gotta go in there and stink it up just to get the victory, he gonna go in there and stink it up to get the victory.

https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-porter-makes-fights-ugly-he-got-skill-winning-by-any-means-necessary--161972

And this is so true of Porter, he will really do anything in his power to make the fight ugly and make Crawford uncomfortable here. But it seems the Crawford is prepared on what Porter are going to throw on his way. Not really sure though if he can get a sparring partner with Porter's style, but for sure this is going to be a war.

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This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 13, 2021, 03:57:02 PM

Quote from: izsara on November 13, 2021, 01:19:38 PM

I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.

We probably need to hear from Spence camp first if he can already fight, he underwent an operation on his eye so most likely it requires a certain time to get healed, or worst if he can't fight anymore because of his delicate operation.

Quote from: izsara on November 13, 2021, 01:19:38 PM

on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.

I guess I like to see Keith Thurman in the ring again, fighting with Crawford, this would be a great fight and I'll gladly put a bet on the underdog which is obviously Thurman.

But Thurman seems to be enjoying his life outside the ring, but who knows, he may want to fight again if he sees himself to be fit again. He is a very good contender to fight with Crawford or Spence and he's only in his early 30's. So the possibility of going back is still high. But talking about Spence Jr, we don't know when will he be allowed to fight again. By the way, he missed his golden opportunity over Pacquiao.
But with this upcoming Crawford-Porter fight, I am placing my bet in the Over/Under line.

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Quote from: izsara on November 13, 2021, 01:19:38 PM

I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.

We probably need to hear from Spence camp first if he can already fight, he underwent an operation on his eye so most likely it requires a certain time to get healed, or worst if he can't fight anymore because of his delicate operation.

Quote from: izsara on November 13, 2021, 01:19:38 PM

on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.

I guess I like to see Keith Thurman in the ring again, fighting with Crawford, this would be a great fight and I'll gladly put a bet on the underdog which is obviously Thurman.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 13, 2021, 12:21:33 AM

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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.
on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.

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Quote from: TravelMug on November 13, 2021, 01:13:35 AM

Good that you mentioned Ugas, because it seems that no one wanted to fight this guy because of style matchup. And we have seen what he has done against the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

We have seen that style against Pacquiao, he's now waiting for another good money fight after that win he deserves more cash now.

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Forget about Thurman, he seems to be contented with his semi retirement and being a boxing analyst for now. It will be a big test for Crawford to solve the style of Ugas if ever they are going to face in the future. And then maybe Thurman will get out of his semi retirement and fight the winner.

I think Thurman is enjoying his rest. He's been paid decently by doing his commentator role,

Good enough to sustain his life for now. We don't hear about any future plans. Maybe if the price is right, something that he and he's camp can't really resist.

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^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.

They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. Cheesy

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. Roll Eyes

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed Tongue

It's affordable for western countries, besides, they only target the USA and Europe I believe, so that's already enough to bring in the profit and make this fight happen. Promoters are smart with dealing with this fight, they give a little purse so the fighters will agree to fight but they know they can also make bigger money from PPV compared to the gate entrance.

Indeed, the truth behind this adjustment. Promoters know that money will flow with PPV and even they will give way with entrance tickets.
there are always people who love to watch the fight in front of their tv sets together with their companies, they are happier watching together instead of bringing their money inside the live events.

Though not everyone, as there are still people who want to see things in actions and want to feel the presence of live fans.

Whatever it may be, promoters will still earn a decent amount after this fight. Roll Eyes

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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

If based on the sales in his previous match, then we can say he is not a big star as other boxers are making more than he is making, maybe one of the reasons is because he does not have a big fight against popular boxers so the interest is low on his fights. Crawford probably demanded a big fight and he gets one now although in betting lines he is a heavy favorite Porter is a tough opponent to crack which I'm sure it will not be easy for Crawford to win.

If Crawford wins this fight, he should go for a bigger one, probably a unificication figght, maybe with Ugas.

Good that you mentioned Ugas, because it seems that no one wanted to fight this guy because of style matchup. And we have seen what he has done against the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

Forget about Thurman, he seems to be contented with his semi retirement and being a boxing analyst for now. It will be a big test for Crawford to solve the style of Ugas if ever they are going to face in the future. And then maybe Thurman will get out of his semi retirement and fight the winner.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on November 13, 2021, 12:21:33 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 12, 2021, 05:34:00 PM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 12, 2021, 01:57:31 AM

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

Perhaps we should take out Spence out of the equation for now. He is recovering from the eye operation, so for now the best welterweight could be Thurman, although he is not that active and it could back fire on him.

So if Terence Crawford wins here, he can't just call out Spence, and I'm definitely sure he will mention Thurman's name because in his previous interviews, he always believed that Keith is the best welterweight.

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