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February 07, 2022, 07:38:20 AM
I'm going to lock this thread for good. And again, thanks for all the comments for you guys. You truly knows your boxing as majority was able to predict a Thurman victory by unanimous decision.

So let's see what will be his next fight, could be either of the two, Crawford and Errol Spence. And congrats to those who won in this fight.
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February 07, 2022, 07:28:24 AM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Can you share the source of that report? I'm looking for the said report but could not find it. If Thurman will rest again, I guess the injury is really serious and I'm sure his future opponent already marks that spot of his body so they can beat him by his weakness.

No, there is no serious injury in Thurman after his fight against Barrios. He has handled his body as well as his opponent well. He's got a good start which gave him the advantage for the rest of the fight.

I think harizen is mistaken. He must be reading an old news. That 22-month hiatus was what happened to Thurman after beating Danny Garcia for the WBC welterweight title. Thurman had an elbow surgery after that. The fight was in 2017. His next fight happened in 2019, two years later.
Yep, as far as I can remember that injury was back and it was after the Danny Garcia fight. Although he had a hand injury after the Manny Pacquiao fight. But there was no reports of a injury after the Barrios fight.

And as expected by the majority here, Thurman won by UD as Barrios has no answer and just like won 2-3 rounds on the judges score card and it was a lopsided win by Keith.
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February 07, 2022, 06:42:12 AM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Can you share the source of that report? I'm looking for the said report but could not find it. If Thurman will rest again, I guess the injury is really serious and I'm sure his future opponent already marks that spot of his body so they can beat him by his weakness.

No, there is no serious injury in Thurman after his fight against Barrios. He has handled his body as well as his opponent well. He's got a good start which gave him the advantage for the rest of the fight.

I think harizen is mistaken. He must be reading an old news. That 22-month hiatus was what happened to Thurman after beating Danny Garcia for the WBC welterweight title. Thurman had an elbow surgery after that. The fight was in 2017. His next fight happened in 2019, two years later.
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February 07, 2022, 06:28:44 AM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Can you share the source of that report? I'm looking for the said report but could not find it. If Thurman will rest again, I guess the injury is really serious and I'm sure his future opponent already marks that spot of his body so they can beat him by his weakness.
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February 07, 2022, 04:40:39 AM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.
While it is the Age always matter in Boxing yet the activities will contribute more , the practicing and the actual training is always the concept that a Boxer needs to pursue his career , so i hope even if he is healing injuries yet he needs to be active still with small training .


That is not good for him, he work hard for his comeback and had an impressive win but this happened. I guess his career is not really destined to make him a great boxer, if he comes back and fights a champion, I now have doubt that he could win, most likely he will lose due to ring rust and the age factor as well. Being active in boxing is very important, long layoff could really affect the performance of a boxer.
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February 07, 2022, 04:39:28 AM
^^ Definitely is a fight that will make Thurman good in his return. Unfortunately, it was to be Barrios the victim here.

So for sure Thurman will be at ring side when Spence and Ugas fight. And probably will go on the stage, make some noise and ask for whoever the winner is to be his next fight. Gonna be explosive fight next and we can't wait for it.

After this win, he might be there to expose himself from the media's attentions. He might grab the chance to call for another fight, though it's not sure if he will entertain by the winner since Crawford might be the next target. But this win gives him credit to have another chance to chase the belt.

We will be waiting for new discussions to whoever Thurman will be fighting next.. Roll Eyes Wink
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February 07, 2022, 12:25:12 AM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.
While it is the Age always matter in Boxing yet the activities will contribute more , the practicing and the actual training is always the concept that a Boxer needs to pursue his career , so i hope even if he is healing injuries yet he needs to be active still with small training .

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Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.
with that long pausing from boxing ? I'm not sure if He'll have a great opponent again if He'll come back .
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February 06, 2022, 11:38:14 PM
Why everyone is saying Thurman is in good shape? He clearly struggles guys. Please watch the fight again.

Although a win is a win, he has no chance to compete with the likes of Crawford or Spence. Even Ugas can beat him with that kind of performance.

We clearly see that Thurman is now getting rusty. He needs to fight another fighter but not on the same tier with Crawford or Spence.
I've rewatch the fight and it's clear Thurman is really dominating the fight, he isn't struggles. But yeah his skills still wouldn't able to beat Crawford or Spence, they've higher skills and active... while Thurman came back after 2 years hiatus. Probably a rematch with Porter might be a good idea since Porter has a good skill and already fought with Crawford, Spence and Ugas.

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February 06, 2022, 11:29:13 PM
^^ Definitely is a fight that will make Thurman good in his return. Unfortunately, it was to be Barrios the victim here.

So for sure Thurman will be at ring side when Spence and Ugas fight. And probably will go on the stage, make some noise and ask for whoever the winner is to be his next fight. Gonna be explosive fight next and we can't wait for it.
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February 06, 2022, 11:11:40 PM
It appears that I was mistaken hehe. The winner for this fight will challenge the winner of Errol Spence versus Yordenis Ugas for the WBC championship. I reckon that the WBC should have given the opportunity to Boots Ennis and let Keith Thurman fight against a real welterweight. It appears someone is giving Thurman an easy fight hehe. This might not make his challenge against either Spence or Ugas appear very exciting.

@bisdak. Thank you again for the advice hehehe.

That's a wise move of Team Thurman in making a come back fight. IMO, Barrios is a B-level fighter and have not yet tested a true welterweight so making him an opponent could somehow be called a cherry picking in my view but given the inactivity of Thurman, that's a wise decision.

Thurman was sharp in this fight and i could say that one or two more tune up fights, he would be ready for Errol Spence or Crawford if he will be active this year, i mean no taking a vacation for 18 months hehe.

Congrats to all the Thurman believers in this forum  Smiley.

However, Barrios was the tune up fight and his next fight appear to be versus the winner of Spence versus Ugas for the WBC championship hehehe. Thurman made a good decision in choosing to fight for the winner of that fight who is certainly going to be Spencer. There is more money in challenging Spencer than Crawford hehehehe.

It is also very arguable if he will be ready for the 2 kings of welterweight unless he is similar to Manny Pacquiao who improved until his 40s.



At the Michelob Ultra Arena in Las Vegas, Keith Thurman made a long overdue return to action, and ‘One Time’ banked twelve rounds in a unanimous decision win against Mario Barrios at the top of a Premier Boxing Champions bill. The bout served as a WBC welterweight title eliminator.

Source https://www.proboxing-fans.com/keith-thurman-vs-mario-barrios-results-post-fight-report/
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February 06, 2022, 10:52:29 PM
Why everyone is saying Thurman is in good shape? He clearly struggles guys. Please watch the fight again.

Because if you look at the score and what the boxing community says, it is almost the same.

Although a win is a win, he has no chance to compete with the likes of Crawford or Spence. Even Ugas can beat him with that kind of performance.

We clearly see that Thurman is now getting rusty. He needs to fight another fighter but not on the same tier with Crawford or Spence.

This I have to agree with you, yes, Crawford and Spence compared to Thurman is way above as far as boxing skills is concerned.

I can't find any source about his injury in this fight. I think what @harizen has posted is related to Thurman's first injury rest.

Thurman fights Danny Garcia - won but got injured in his elbow. Take a 22 month rest to heal then fight Josesito Lopez.
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February 06, 2022, 09:40:11 PM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.

Not really serious I don't think it will take 4 months the most to heal the injury, he won't want to miss fighting the winner of the Ugas - Spence fight he is in a comeback trail  so he will do everything for the injury to heal fast so he can go back to the training he has a huge adversary coming to a boxer ten times better than Barrios which is Errol Spence

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Thurman admitted, however, he hurt his left hand in the third.

“It was a left uppercut, and I bruised one of the knuckles,” Thurman said. “It made me not want to throw that punch anymore.

https://www.premierboxingchampions.com/news/keith-thurman-looks-strong-ring-return-defeats-mario-barrios
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February 06, 2022, 06:52:22 PM

It is reported that Keith Thurman will be out of any boxing-related event for 22 months to heal his injury. He will again at hiatus instead of fighting again in the next 3-4 months. That will contribute to his inactivity on the boxing ring.

He will probably be at age 34-35 on his next fight. Age is a factor for a boxer that is not active.

Congratulations on his win but I agree, he will surely have a tough time if he will face the top-tier boxers in his division.
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February 06, 2022, 06:51:34 PM
Now, If he's going to fight Spence next, he should be ready with a lot of body shot punishment then.

He will just be pulverized by Spence. No chance to win with that level of performance he has shown. He was even injured after the fight.

Sorry to say that Thurman is now done in boxing. He can't now compete in a big title match. It's a big win against Barrios but he's not suitable now for a big title match. That's the impact of not being active for around 3 years.

maybe before going after spence or crawford, he needs to fight other smaller fights as he needs more conditioning of his body. if he will just go either spence or crawford after this, i don't think he will last in those 12 rounds. great that he won, which a lot were expecting like me. but after we have seen him fight with barrios, going to big match is like giving a solid win to his opponent.
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February 06, 2022, 06:46:01 PM
Now, If he's going to fight Spence next, he should be ready with a lot of body shot punishment then.

He will just be pulverized by Spence. No chance to win with that level of performance he has shown. He was even injured after the fight.

Sorry to say that Thurman is now done in boxing. He can't now compete in a big title match. It's a big win against Barrios but he's not suitable now for a big title match. That's the impact of not being active for around 3 years.
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February 06, 2022, 06:23:10 PM
Why everyone is saying Thurman is in good shape? He clearly struggles guys. Please watch the fight again.

Although a win is a win, he has no chance to compete with the likes of Crawford or Spence. Even Ugas can beat him with that kind of performance.

We clearly see that Thurman is now getting rusty. He needs to fight another fighter but not on the same tier with Crawford or Spence.
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February 06, 2022, 03:37:48 PM

This is indeed a good comeback for Thurman. Now, he tested himself again inside the ring, he knows basically where to improve the next time around to beat other champions in his division. Spence Jr, Ugas or Crawford - they are on his list now. He maybe just waiting for the next call out of his opponent. And he should not take a long break again, he should take this opportunity while he is still below 40s.  Grin

It's almost a perfect fight this is something we expect, we all know how good Thurman we only have doubts because he has over 900 days of inactivity, now he has proven that he is back and he is better compared when he lose to Pacquiao, he really is motivated to make a huge comeback, he may not get that knock out but enough to school a former world champion.
@CaVO32, Thurman needs to shoot his shot but also has to do it wisely and smartly so he won't make the same mistake when he lost to Pacman through the habit of being overconfident.
@smyslov, I never doubted him winning the fight because he learn a lot fighting Pacman and if Pacman can beat him through a split decision so any of his division that wants to beat him must go the extra mile.
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February 06, 2022, 03:35:26 PM
As I watched the fight, Thurman clearly had the higher hand and indeed he really gave his fans a good fight and won via unanimous decision since he was inactive for nearly 3 years after he lost from the Philippine champ. What a comeback! He started slow but I don't think that he's having some ring rust on the ring as he clearly dominates almost every round. Gotta give some credits for Barrios as he also proved himself that he can keep up to the former champion.

Keith's next opponent? There's no rumors or possible match-up yet as of this time but this is already a sign that he's really back!
It was nice to see Thurman in such a good shape, after all as you said he had spend almost 3 years out of the ring and we know that no matter how good you are at something the moment you stop doing it eventually your level will begin to go down, but it seems this was not the case for Thurman and was able to overcome the inactivity he went through, I wonder if he will try to compensate for this and fight more often as there is no doubt he left a lot of money over the table due to that long period of inactivity.
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February 06, 2022, 01:22:54 PM
Barrios' mistake was that he seemed to be waiting for momentum on the other hand, Thurman was quite aggressive, especially starting from round 3, Thurman had started to attack sporadically to the Barrios area. with a jab from Barrios.
Of the many rounds I will probably see round 8, round 11 and the last round because this is a pretty exciting round for me.

Congratulations to Thurman, Congratulations to all of us who are by Thurman's side. I'm getting pretty big profit now with this win Smiley

Congrats on the win, if you notice, Thurman's weakness was again displayed in the fight, that body of him is still weak and he took out his mouth fist so he would breathe easily, the same scenario with Pacman's fight when he got hit on the body. A great return and I hope he will be more active and will be more better in the next fight.
Agree with what you said about Thurman's weakness, he is a player with vision but it's a shame that his endurance is not good enough and if you look at today's fight he even fell in round 11 luckily Barrios couldn't take advantage of this and Thurman dominated again.
it would be very different maybe if the opponent wasn't Barrios when something like this happened again I think maybe he has no chance anymore.
In the future, I think he must increase his current physical endurance so that the strength he has and his vision in fighting can be accompanied by his strength in maintaining physical fitness.
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February 06, 2022, 10:31:50 AM

This is indeed a good comeback for Thurman. Now, he tested himself again inside the ring, he knows basically where to improve the next time around to beat other champions in his division. Spence Jr, Ugas or Crawford - they are on his list now. He maybe just waiting for the next call out of his opponent. And he should not take a long break again, he should take this opportunity while he is still below 40s.  Grin

It's almost a perfect fight this is something we expect, we all know how good Thurman we only have doubts because he has over 900 days of inactivity, now he has proven that he is back and he is better compared when he lose to Pacquiao, he really is motivated to make a huge comeback, he may not get that knock out but enough to school a former world champion.

Well, that indeed is undeniably a good come back after a devastating loss. He still have a good and formidable chin, but what I have noticed is that he'll basically got hurt with body shots. For the 2nd time around he took out his mouth piece after a solid body shot from his opponent since Pacquiao.
Now, If he's going to fight Spence next, he should be ready with a lot of body shot punishment then.
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