[Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 - page 5.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 03, 2022, 04:17:33 PM

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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Yes, and this maybe the reason why Keith wanted to come back, the timing is perfect, Spence and Crawford, who is the best right now could be available to him if he will win his fight against Barrios.

And he himself said that those two are the top right now and it will be a big challenge for him to fight them. But he has a big hurdle first to overcome and if wins over Barrios then wait for the winner of Spence vs Ugas or go directly to Crawford.

As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

Thurman still has the skills, and if continue to make himself fit through proper training and diet, then he should not experience the ring rust in this fight, besides he is still the favorite, so that's a big thing that people still believe that he can win in this fight.

And yes, this fight is a big one, it's his ticket to a fight against Crawford or Spence.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 03, 2022, 03:37:13 PM

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And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

Yes, and this maybe the reason why Keith wanted to come back, the timing is perfect, Spence and Crawford, who is the best right now could be available to him if he will win his fight against Barrios.

And he himself said that those two are the top right now and it will be a big challenge for him to fight them. But he has a big hurdle first to overcome and if wins over Barrios then wait for the winner of Spence vs Ugas or go directly to Crawford.

As for the ring rust, it's two fold, sometimes the fighter that takes a lot of break can come back strong and rejuvenated.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 03, 2022, 03:16:33 PM

And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

This will be a test to the character of Keith Thurman. A true champion in this sport of sweet science can bounce back after a loss so i think Thurman will handle this hurdle with pride and a mindset of a true champion.

For me, he is one of the legitimate contender for this loaded welterweight division and he could defeat Spence and Crawford if given the chance to fight those champions in the future.

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There is something that I do understand and it is from a sporting point of view, when a boxer or even any athlete in a contact sport knocks him out, and they knock him down several times in the ring, that is something that affects a lot on a mental level, In fact, an athlete has to have a very high morale, and a unique self-esteem, and when things like this happen, it usually causes a lot of mistrust, and this makes it difficult to overcome on a mental level, although there are not many who overcome it quickly, sometimes Sometimes a fighter falls into what they should never do and that is in the insecurity of themselves in their physical abilities.

There are people who have this kind of mindset not just with sport but also with other things, the acceptance is not easy but for those who overcome they use it as inspiration to build their self-esteem and make it a good motivation to improve, hopefully Thurman see it this way and make his comeback more impressing.

We will see this inside the ring if who among these two fighters is more hunger for the win.

And probably that's the definition of sports, not just to compete against each after fair and square. But it's how you gonna bounce after a lost and win again and again. Just like Manny, when he lost to Floyd, we thought that he is done already. But he come back and beat Thurman. Now it's Thurman time, to get back and fight again and reclaim his spot in this very competitive division.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on February 03, 2022, 12:03:14 PM

There is something that I do understand and it is from a sporting point of view, when a boxer or even any athlete in a contact sport knocks him out, and they knock him down several times in the ring, that is something that affects a lot on a mental level, In fact, an athlete has to have a very high morale, and a unique self-esteem, and when things like this happen, it usually causes a lot of mistrust, and this makes it difficult to overcome on a mental level, although there are not many who overcome it quickly, sometimes Sometimes a fighter falls into what they should never do and that is in the insecurity of themselves in their physical abilities.

There are people who have this kind of mindset not just with sport but also with other things, the acceptance is not easy but for those who overcome they use it as inspiration to build their self-esteem and make it a good motivation to improve, hopefully Thurman see it this way and make his comeback more impressing.

We will see this inside the ring if who among these two fighters is more hunger for the win.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

I'm also expecting Thurman to put up a show here, Barrios hasn't tested this weight class, this is his first time and he will face a former champion. And yes, at age 33, this is still prime years for boxers, and we will witness that in Thurman. He is aching for a comeback and show us that he can bang in the welterweight division. So expect no less than a knock out for his comeback win.

There is something that I do understand and it is from a sporting point of view, when a boxer or even any athlete in a contact sport knocks him out, and they knock him down several times in the ring, that is something that affects a lot on a mental level, In fact, an athlete has to have a very high morale, and a unique self-esteem, and when things like this happen, it usually causes a lot of mistrust, and this makes it difficult to overcome on a mental level, although there are not many who overcome it quickly, sometimes Sometimes a fighter falls into what they should never do and that is in the insecurity of themselves in their physical abilities.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 01, 2022, 09:52:42 PM

In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.

We know that fighters will say almost anything to try too hype up a fight, so I am not surprised that Barrios is saying something like this so more people get interested in the fight and watch it, however I am no so sure that trading blows is going to be the best strategy for him against someone like Thurman, after all I think he could do so for a few rounds but to be able to endure so much punishment during the whole fight seems like something difficult to do.

Yes, that's too familiar statement coming from a fighter that is the underdog in this fight.

But for sure he will give everything and show the fans that maybe at the slightest he can brawl with a great puncher such as Thurman. That if Thurman still has that power to still knock out anyone in this division.

We are almost in the fight, just a couple of days to go, we see the weigh-in, some media interviews again and then the fight itself.

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

That's only for press release

. The moment he taste the power punch of a true welterweight, things will change and he will start to back off.

Yeah, he has been Koed by Tank Davis what more if Thurman could land those devastating blows to him.

Ring rust and the probability of Barrios not engaging are the reasons why i'm inclined to bet on Thurman to win decision this coming weekend.

Yeah, lots of trades off in his fight, Barrios moving up to this division facing a former champion. But that former champion has ring rust so it's really a toss up right now.

But I will still leaning towards a Keith victory here, maybe he can shake off the ring rust and then look for a KO in later rounds.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 01, 2022, 10:37:12 PM

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.

All the reason to win is for him, Barrios serves as challenger after deciding to climb up to this division, if Thurman wants that big
Fight. He needs to convince everyone around this sport that he deserves to have that shot. Convincing by means not just to win.
but an entertaining fight to hype up his name.

We will see if how Thurman is ready now once the fight start and how he will aggressively throw punches to Barrios.. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 01, 2022, 09:52:42 PM

In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.

We know that fighters will say almost anything to try too hype up a fight, so I am not surprised that Barrios is saying something like this so more people get interested in the fight and watch it, however I am no so sure that trading blows is going to be the best strategy for him against someone like Thurman, after all I think he could do so for a few rounds but to be able to endure so much punishment during the whole fight seems like something difficult to do.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, early 30s is the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also has the capability to knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

Exactly! If we're talking about advantage here then Keith Thurman has it more as he's more experienced in the ring and in the industry, he may be inactive for years but that won't mean that he's ineffective and Barrios won't get an easy fight. The latter may be young and fast but that won't mean anything if he can't hit Thurman with a lethal blow.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 01, 2022, 09:52:42 PM

In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

That's only for press release

. The moment he taste the power punch of a true welterweight, things will change and he will start to back off.

Yeah, he has been Koed by Tank Davis what more if Thurman could land those devastating blows to him.

Ring rust and the probability of Barrios not engaging are the reasons why i'm inclined to bet on Thurman to win decision this coming weekend.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantage this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number record of winnings knockout. Hopefully, it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO in though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, the early 30s are the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also can knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

Time has almost come and that day we can see a great fight by a famous and great fighter. Thurman has a chance to win this match but we can not sure that we will win cause we all know that Barrie's will do his best too to defeat Thurman and he has the potential and good stamina to sustain the fight so this is a hard fight by Thurman, and I think this is interesting to watch.

I doubt that thurman has an advantage in this fight as he had been out in boxing for years so Barrios is in the good position here.

But of course Boxing is a game in which Both has a capacity to bring the opponent down to take the win so it is either fighter but I am Aiming for Barrios to win on this as I already Place my bet yesterday lol.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 01, 2022, 09:52:42 PM

In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

Of course, he wanted to test himself and Thurman. I think Barrios style fits that, he is more of a brawler to me.

Quote from: Kemarit on February 01, 2022, 09:52:42 PM

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It could be different though, maybe Barrios is really a true 147 lbs fighter for all we know. he is tall and has the reach of a true WW as well. He is weight drain against Davis, that's the way I see it that's why he is so much in trouble in the weight scale even before fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 01, 2022, 09:52:42 PM

In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

It's totally different though when you are inside the ring, he can say whatever he want, he can trash talk (although there is none in this fight).

The burden is on Thurman and I think he will do everything to win in this fight. As others have said, he wants to stay relevant in this division and a potential big fight in the horizon for him if he won this fight.

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In recent interview, Barrios said that he is not afraid to trade punches with Keith Thurman.

So that is good, as both has promises us boxing fans a good fight, no expect no less in this fight.

But I have said before, I will go with Keith Thurman here to win by either KO or a UD. Yes, Barrios can trade punches, but can he take a punch from a bigger and more powerful boxer here? He has been chin tested already by a overblown 140 lbs Tank Davis, what more of a legit and true Welterweight?

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That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

Sportsbooks are favoring Thurman over Barrios in this fight. Thurman has only one loss, which is from Pacquiao. And Barrios has also one loss as well. We know they want to redeem themselves in this upcoming fight so we will see a toe-to-toe fight here and see who's the prepared one. But in this case, I am betting on Thurman to win on this match. Of course, they will study the strategies and weaknesses of their opponents and work from there. But we will only see those strategies once inside the ring. And which one of them have very good tactics to beat his opponent.

Both of them only has one lose and there's only one going to proceed with remaining one lose after this match.

There's no other way looking of what the both camps have been studying with their opponents, we're really going to see it being applied inside the ring just within the few days left.

We're close to the said date of the match and likely to be seen if whoever gets the greatest research and training.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

Sportsbooks are favoring Thurman over Barrios in this fight. Thurman has only one loss, which is from Pacquiao. And Barrios has also one loss as well. We know they want to redeem themselves in this upcoming fight so we will see a toe-to-toe fight here and see who's the prepared one. But in this case, I am betting on Thurman to win on this match. Of course, they will study the strategies and weaknesses of their opponents and work from there. But we will only see those strategies once inside the ring. And which one of them have very good tactics to beat his opponent.

Even with only one loss, it does not mean that eventually, the guy will find his match. Just remember that even Tyson, eventually, got the chance to meet Douglas and have a taste at the floor. In this case, the chance are not even remotely that unequal and the books are possibly right from their perspective but there is a good reason to bet for Barrios - I mean, is not crazy at all at this moment.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

Sportsbooks are favoring Thurman over Barrios in this fight. Thurman has only one loss, which is from Pacquiao. And Barrios has also one loss as well. We know they want to redeem themselves in this upcoming fight so we will see a toe-to-toe fight here and see who's the prepared one. But in this case, I am betting on Thurman to win on this match. Of course, they will study the strategies and weaknesses of their opponents and work from there. But we will only see those strategies once inside the ring. And which one of them have very good tactics to beat his opponent.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

That's worrying on his end then.

But with what I know with these boxers, after losing with the last fight, they're learning the lesson that they've seen from there and that's why they'll do better with the next match that they have set.

On the otherhand, their opponents are also going to research with most of their fights and if they see some weakness, they'll for sure going to use it against them and you're right with that about Thurman.

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