[Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 - page 3.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2022, 11:24:15 PM

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However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

I have doubts if Barrios has what it takes to become a superstar in the welterweight division, the welterweight division is talent laden not to mention the two welterweight champions who are included in the top boxers in the ring magazine, I also have doubt if he can get past Thurman in the first place he should not step in the welterweight division at all, that's biting what he can't chew, all my doubts will be erased only after he knocks out Thurman.

Yes, everything will be settled after the fight. Thurman will avoid another shame on his career. Winning this fight will bring vibes and will straighten his resume and have that chance to regain another belt. I personally believe that he's here to try to his last shot. I'm convinced that he's more capable of beating Barrios, just expecting that he will do it with a KO.

Early rounds or whatever but a KO will be more entertaining.. Wink

Day of reckoning is here fight fans, under card in this fight is already good.

Of course, we wanted to see a competitive fight and a knock out coming from Keith Thurman and then expect him to bad mouth either Crawford or Spence.

Nevertheless, a 12 round decision will not hurt in anyway, a win is a win. So let's see how strong Keith will go in this fight.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 05, 2022, 01:31:01 AM

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

I have doubts if Barrios has what it takes to become a superstar in the welterweight division, the welterweight division is talent laden not to mention the two welterweight champions who are included in the top boxers in the ring magazine, I also have doubt if he can get past Thurman in the first place he should not step in the welterweight division at all, that's biting what he can't chew, all my doubts will be erased only after he knocks out Thurman.

Yes, everything will be settled after the fight. Thurman will avoid another shame on his career. Winning this fight will bring vibes and will straighten his resume and have that chance to regain another belt. I personally believe that he's here to try to his last shot. I'm convinced that he's more capable of beating Barrios, just expecting that he will do it with a KO.

Early rounds or whatever but a KO will be more entertaining.. Wink

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 05, 2022, 01:31:01 AM

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

I have doubts if Barrios has what it takes to become a superstar in the welterweight division, the welterweight division is talent laden not to mention the two welterweight champions who are included in the top boxers in the ring magazine, I also have doubt if he can get past Thurman in the first place he should not step in the welterweight division at all, that's biting what he can't chew, all my doubts will be erased only after he knocks out Thurman.

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Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

That will be known after this fight. You got a point there mate but i still believe in Keith Thurman. This might be the biggest fight of his career because if he losses this one then it's gonna be over for him and yeah, he will be used as a stepping stone for young fighters to become popular.

I'm a little bit worried for Barrios on why taking a fight with Thurman on his first fight as a welterweight when he can choose some fighters who he thinks he can beat comfortably before taking on the big names. The speed and power in junior welterweight is not the same in the higher division so i think this is a very risky move for him.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 05, 2022, 04:16:18 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 05, 2022, 01:31:01 AM

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 04, 2022, 01:38:12 AM

Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

That argument may be true, especially when Thurman will be showing a sign of slowing down of his career and did not recover from a Pacquiao loss.
He have underestimated the power and speed of Pacquiao, with that, you can never become one of the top boxer. He could've played it smart like Ugas did.
Let's just see If really have recovered from his first loss.

After this fight, if he loses, no one will be talking about him, but if he will redeem himself and win impressively, then he will have an opportunity to probably get a fight with either Spence or Crawford, I'm sure that's the reason why he is coming back, he wants to prove to the world that despite his previous loses, he can rise and be at the champions league once again.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 05, 2022, 01:31:01 AM

Quote from: judeafante on February 04, 2022, 05:48:22 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 04, 2022, 01:38:12 AM

Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

That argument may be true, especially when Thurman will be showing a sign of slowing down of his career and did not recover from a Pacquiao loss.
He have underestimated the power and speed of Pacquiao, with that, you can never become one of the top boxer. He could've played it smart like Ugas did.
Let's just see If really have recovered from his first loss.

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Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.

Neither way he would really make out adjustments basing on the current weight does he have.For Barrios then no doubt that he do really feels very comfortable on this
division.
You could really see that this fight would really be something that goes toe to toe just like on what been mentioned above ^ and this is something that where
most boxing fans would really be liking to see on.

The day has come, this fight is going to be a great fight as both fighters are not boring to watch. I would still keep my faith on Thurman and I'm hoping that my bet would win, a KO would be much better than a win via decision, so I hope Thurman would be careful from the start until he'll finish Barrios with a KO.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 05, 2022, 11:36:46 AM

Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.

Neither way he would really make out adjustments basing on the current weight does he have.For Barrios then no doubt that he do really feels very comfortable on this
division.
You could really see that this fight would really be something that goes toe to toe just like on what been mentioned above ^ and this is something that where
most boxing fans would really be liking to see on.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 05, 2022, 11:36:46 AM

Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.

if thurman is very comfortable with his weight, he can easily move around and it will give him advantage. few hours from now and we will see if thurman is ready for this come back. placing some bet on him so let's see.
want to see if he has still this power skill on him after long hiatus from the ring.

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Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

I'm thinking the other way. Keith Thurman might likely go all-in on the early rounds in an attempt to settle right away the match and make a KO finish. Since his stamina is at stake here knowing he is out of his own league for nearly 3 years, he needs to take the opportunity to take down Barrios at the early round while his stamina is still at its peak.

However, Barrios might also do the same and we can see a close bout in the early rounds. They should be to make the fight more intense.

I would like to see that, I'm expecting an impressive toe to toe actions between these two fighters, both have their own

personal reason, winning this fight will open another door in their careers. I'm pretty sure that training camps are expecting both

fighters to be aggressive. It's good to showcase their talents in the early rounds to delight and entertain the fans, winning them

will bring more money.. Cheesy

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Here's the weigh-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-GXPdHY0mM

Both make it to the limit, but Thurman is lighter at 145.5 lbs. But for sure he will re-hydrate himself and maybe weight at around 150-160 lbs. Barrios is tall and lanky but he feels very comfortable at welterweight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 04, 2022, 06:45:11 PM

As I've said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.

Almost 3 years without a professional fight after his loss, after his inactivity, it's been already expected that he will atleast experience ring rust but I know that he and his team are training him hard around the clock to somehow minimize that effect.

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

Great analysis but I would still go with the KO, that's going to be a 12 rounds of fight, maybe he can start slow and finish it with a KO just like the last fight of Barrios over Davis. None of us can really ascertain what's going to happen but I'm happy that we choose the same fighter to win.

Me too! There's a high chance that Thurman will go for a KO somewhere on the 7th to 12th round considering that Thurman's knockout rate is somewhere 87% and because somehow I'm quite positive that he will start slow while observing Barrios and have to overcome that ring rust thing first. Nevertheless, we should expect that this will be an intense fight and that Keith Thurman will successfully redeem his name.

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Quote from: Russlenat on February 05, 2022, 04:10:11 AM

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

I'm thinking the other way. Keith Thurman might likely go all-in on the early rounds in an attempt to settle right away the match and make a KO finish. Since his stamina is at stake here knowing he is out of his own league for nearly 3 years, he needs to take the opportunity to take down Barrios at the early round while his stamina is still at its peak.

However, Barrios might also do the same and we can see a close bout in the early rounds. They should be to make the fight more intense.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 04, 2022, 06:45:11 PM

As I've said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.

Almost 3 years without a professional fight after his loss, after his inactivity, it's been already expected that he will atleast experience ring rust but I know that he and his team are training him hard around the clock to somehow minimize that effect.

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

Great analysis but I would still go with the KO, that's going to be a 12 rounds of fight, maybe he can start slow and finish it with a KO just like the last fight of Barrios over Davis. None of us can really ascertain what's going to happen but I'm happy that we choose the same fighter to win.

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 04, 2022, 07:18:01 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 04, 2022, 06:45:11 PM

As I've said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I agree with you. Even Thurman is a former world champion, inactivity in the ring for several years is really a problem. Even Thurman is expected to do again the performance he used on working before, he might have a tough time to get back in shape.

But even with a rusty performance, Thurman to win by Knock Out between Rounds 8-9 seems a good bet.

Almost 3 years without a professional fight after his loss, after his inactivity, it's been already expected that he will atleast experience ring rust but I know that he and his team are training him hard around the clock to somehow minimize that effect.

Considering that factor alone, he's expected to fight slowly to moderate within the first few rounds in the ring. A win via decision is a safer bet.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 05, 2022, 01:31:01 AM

Quote from: judeafante on February 04, 2022, 05:48:22 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 04, 2022, 01:38:12 AM

Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

Barrios name will only be popular if he wins against Thurman, if he losses this one, then its hard for him to win a fight in this division because it's pretty much stack up.

Not sure if Thurman is curse or what, but he will definitely wanted to change things if he is going to win here. There is the 2 kings right now, Spence and Crawford that he can challenge, if he losses to any of this fighters, at least he will have a good paycheck.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 04, 2022, 01:38:12 AM

Also, Thurman’s age and boxing politics might not give him a chance to fight Spencer or Crawford. We should watch Boots Ennis. He might become the new king of welterweight.

If he keeps on winning decisively on the top welterweights then he'll have a chance to fight Spence or Crawford but if we consider the
"style make fights theory" I doubt if he can beat these two boxers, Thurman is already an elite boxer but both Spence and Crawford are on top of their league, in fact, both Spence and Crawford can move up and give those elite boxers in the higher weight division a run for their money.

However, Keith Thurman has a problem. He appears to be cursed forever because of his loss versus Pacman. That was supposed to be his opportunity to become one of the biggest boxing stars in welterweight who would challenge the 2 kings of the division, Spencer and Crawford. But he did not win. I reckon he might only be used by promoters to make younger fighters’ names more popular. There might be an argument that this fight might only be something to make Barrios’ name more popular in welterweight. Barrios was a WBA champion in junior welterweight before the loss to Tank Davis.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 04, 2022, 06:45:11 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on February 04, 2022, 04:45:40 PM

I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.

Agree, though it was a close fight but he accepted the verdict of the judges, that was what i admired of him also.

BTW, the fight will be tomorrow in our time zone and i have made up my mind to bet for the below Grin

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As I've said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

I knew that you gonna bet on that mate, hehehe. And it's a solid bet to be honest the odds are good and like you have said, ring rust might be a factor for Thurman in this fight. He might be prepared physically with all the training in the gym. But it's different when you are in real fight with all the lights and the fans and this might make you excited that can bring you some flash back of the Pacquiao fan. So he might be timid in the beginning, and very slow.

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As I have said before, will go with Thurman either by KO or decision. But since @bisdak40 posted his bet on the decision, I'm leaning towards it than a KO.

But we will see, maybe Barrios is taller, and full welterweight now so his resistance against a power punch might increased dramatically when compare to 140 lbs that's why Davis was able to knock him down easily.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 04, 2022, 06:45:11 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on February 04, 2022, 04:45:40 PM

I never knew that Thurman was such a trash talker until he fought Pacman, but what I like about him is he has the sportsmanship which other boxers don't have, he humbly accepted his defeat after, so I'm sure he will become a champion again because he accepts his defeat so he will improve as a boxer.

Agree, though it was a close fight but he accepted the verdict of the judges, that was what i admired of him also.

BTW, the fight will be tomorrow in our time zone and i have made up my mind to bet for the below Grin

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As I've said, ring rust might be a big factor here that Keith Thurman won't be able to KO a taller Barrios.

Awesome. This is a good odds for those like me that didn't expecting a KO win by Thurman.

Barrios should not be treated as pure underdog here. He can surely survived the fight without being KO but still Thurman will win at the end

I might tail you on this if you will bet on decision by Thurman.

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