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Quote from: Pumared on September 23, 2024, 01:47:16 PM

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For me, Palmeiras will be the Brazilian champion this year, Botafogo and Fortaleza were just some common distortions of the championship that probably won't last over time, Flamengo is already out of the game, for the football they've been playing they don't deserve to be champion, that leaves only Palmeiras, who will only lose this championship to themselves if they start to falter in the games..

Oh no, I can't stand to see Palmeiras (or Flamengo) being champions anymore, that's enough hehehe
Since Corinthians won't even be able to fight for the Libertadores, I'm rooting for Fortaleza, but it could also be Botafogo who win the Brazilian championship.
Enough of the hegemony of the two clubs in recent years

--> Botafogo's chances of being champions are 54% at the moment
--> Palmeiras have 33% and Fortaleza only 9%.

This reminds me of Botafogo, who had similar, if not equal, chances to these. And yet they let everything happen in the way we all know. I prefer not to believe so much in these statistics because in the end, it is the players on the field who make it happen.

I don't understand how Botafogo slipped their chances in last season or the season before that where they were comfortably leading the Serie A and at a certain point by 9 points only to lose it (I don't explain how) during the last games of the competition. I doubt players can lose a Championship this way without huge pressure from some other entity as this is the only plausible explanation to me. A team which leads comfortably cannot go down in such a dramatic way and in European competitions it never happens, if a team is leading the same as Botafogo was they never lose the fight for the title, for me something not known yet has happened, the same players that had dominated a good chunk of Serie A could not keep up, I don't believe this, maybe I am a doubtful person yet I think the Serie A was never lost like this before.

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 23, 2024, 09:44:28 AM

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For me, Palmeiras will be the Brazilian champion this year, Botafogo and Fortaleza were just some common distortions of the championship that probably won't last over time, Flamengo is already out of the game, for the football they've been playing they don't deserve to be champion, that leaves only Palmeiras, who will only lose this championship to themselves if they start to falter in the games..

Oh no, I can't stand to see Palmeiras (or Flamengo) being champions anymore, that's enough hehehe
Since Corinthians won't even be able to fight for the Libertadores, I'm rooting for Fortaleza, but it could also be Botafogo who win the Brazilian championship.
Enough of the hegemony of the two clubs in recent years

--> Botafogo's chances of being champions are 54% at the moment
--> Palmeiras have 33% and Fortaleza only 9%.

This reminds me of Botafogo, who had similar, if not equal, chances to these. And yet they let everything happen in the way we all know. I prefer not to believe so much in these statistics because in the end, it is the players on the field who make it happen.

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 23, 2024, 09:44:28 AM

Quote from: criptoevangelista on September 23, 2024, 05:38:05 AM

For me, Palmeiras will be the Brazilian champion this year, Botafogo and Fortaleza were just some common distortions of the championship that probably won't last over time, Flamengo is already out of the game, for the football they've been playing they don't deserve to be champion, that leaves only Palmeiras, who will only lose this championship to themselves if they start to falter in the games..

Oh no, I can't stand to see Palmeiras (or Flamengo) being champions anymore, that's enough hehehe
Since Corinthians won't even be able to fight for the Libertadores, I'm rooting for Fortaleza, but it could also be Botafogo who win the Brazilian championship.
Enough of the hegemony of the two clubs in recent years

--> Botafogo's chances of being champions are 54% at the moment
--> Palmeiras have 33% and Fortaleza only 9%.

But at least you saw Corinthians become the Brazilian women's soccer champion Cheesy

. I was at my mother-in-law's house for lunch and I heard the Corinthians anthem. I even thought it was a reprise of some championship from the past and everything... I would also like to see a rotation in the teams that win the Brazilian championship, but unfortunately it will take a while to reach that level... It will be an alternation of Flamengo and Palmeiras for many years to come.

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It's good that Botafogo is being underestimated. The championship is only won once it's over. Until there, players have to play each match as it was the decisive one for the title, doesn't matter how many points ahead they are compared to the second club on the table.

Teams which enter a comfort zone tend to lose performance, and when they try to revert the situation it's already too late, or the pressure over them is too high that they become emotionally annoyed and disturbed.

That said, Botafogo is playing a very entertaining soccer this season, thanks to its players who display chemistry in field. Arthur Jorge's management is also being very positive so far.

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Quote from: criptoevangelista on September 23, 2024, 05:38:05 AM

For me, Palmeiras will be the Brazilian champion this year, Botafogo and Fortaleza were just some common distortions of the championship that probably won't last over time, Flamengo is already out of the game, for the football they've been playing they don't deserve to be champion, that leaves only Palmeiras, who will only lose this championship to themselves if they start to falter in the games..

Oh no, I can't stand to see Palmeiras (or Flamengo) being champions anymore, that's enough hehehe
Since Corinthians won't even be able to fight for the Libertadores, I'm rooting for Fortaleza, but it could also be Botafogo who win the Brazilian championship.
Enough of the hegemony of the two clubs in recent years

--> Botafogo's chances of being champions are 54% at the moment
--> Palmeiras have 33% and Fortaleza only 9%.

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 22, 2024, 08:33:59 PM

Palmeiras are the only team in the Brasileirao to have won their last five games. It looks like the team is back in serious fight for the title

I think there are now 3 teams in the fight, Botafogo, Palmeiras and Fortaleza
Do you agree or do you think Flamengo and São Paulo have a chance too?

For me, Palmeiras will be the Brazilian champion this year, Botafogo and Fortaleza were just some common distortions of the championship that probably won't last over time, Flamengo is already out of the game, for the football they've been playing they don't deserve to be champion, that leaves only Palmeiras, who will only lose this championship to themselves if they start to falter in the games..

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 22, 2024, 06:05:47 PM

In the "Brasileirão" Women's Championship, Corinthians beat São Paulo today and won the title for the sixth time!
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At least the girls' team is bringing joy to Corinthians fans hehehe
I didn't bet on the game, but Corinthians are quite strong in women's soccer
Nice that you follow women's soccer @alegotardo every day it gets cooler to watch, they've evolved a lot

Palmeiras are the only team in the Brasileirao to have won their last five games. It looks like the team is back in serious fight for the title

I think there are now 3 teams in the fight, Botafogo, Palmeiras and Fortaleza
Do you agree or do you think Flamengo and São Paulo have a chance too?

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 22, 2024, 06:05:47 PM

In the "Brasileirão" Women's Championship, Corinthians beat São Paulo today and won the title for the sixth time!

Although they were the favorites, I believed that São Paulo would come back, but unfortunately (for me) the Corinthians' favoritism came true.

In short, it was a deserved result because even with the advantage gained away from home, they really entered the field with great determination and were dominant in the game for practically the entire first half, always in the attacking field and with more possession of the ball, so the victory was inevitable.

Congratulations to Corinthians for yet another achievement in the "Brasileirão" Women's Championship.

Now Corinthians will use the women's money to support the men's team and all the signings. Winning 6 times is not easy, they were really superior to São Paulo, and they only managed the advantages they got.

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In the "Brasileirão" Women's Championship, Corinthians beat São Paulo today and won the title for the sixth time!

Although they were the favorites, I believed that São Paulo would come back, but unfortunately (for me) the Corinthians' favoritism came true.

In short, it was a deserved result because even with the advantage gained away from home, they really entered the field with great determination and were dominant in the game for practically the entire first half, always in the attacking field and with more possession of the ball, so the victory was inevitable.

Congratulations to Corinthians for yet another achievement in the "Brasileirão" Women's Championship.

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Palmeiras managed to get a hard-fought 1-0 win over Vasco, making it 5 consecutive wins, although I think 1-0 was hard for a clublike Vasco. I missed this game, but I had already bet so much on Palmeiras winning or drawing that I had even forgotten about the match. However, Botafogo also won their match, being 3 points ahead of Palmeiras. It seems that they can repeat the same feat of 2023 with Palmeiras taking the lead at the end of the championship.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 20, 2024, 05:17:42 PM

I don't know which team you support, but I'm relieved to read your opinion and with that reinforcing the title of the three-time championship for brazil's favorite green team, Palmeiras is a surprising team, maybe I'll go back to betting on them and Flamengo, since they've been maintaining consistency in their last games, despite the mess in Flamengo's last game.

Everyone has their favorite team mine is different and your team is more like those who are strong and hardworking. And I support such a team. And it was great to hear that Brazil green team has won the championship 3 times. And why not when they play hard and fast and win matches. If they open up and take advantage of them and themselves well, if it's the root of the mess, it's a bettor loss and I don't like anyone on that. So that their thinking, so they maintain that if Flamingo loses you know very well what will happen to them.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 19, 2024, 07:06:09 PM

Don't you think that Corinthians has been recovering well in its last few games, despite the imminent and perhaps inevitable threat of relegation to Serie B?

I feel that Fortaleza has been declining, it's difficult to maintain consistency even though it's a team in good form, which is why I think this championship is the most successful of the majority, because it's long (it lasts practically the entire year) and the teams wear themselves out a lot.

Yes, for the first time this season I think Corinthians have improved a bit
It could be the reinforcements, the confidence that's slowly returning or even a little bit of luck, but it's already improved
Even yesterday Corinthians finally had a good win, after all Atlético GO are also very bad in the league, in the last spot Tongue

Those of you who are discouraged about Fortaleza, don't get discouraged so quickly
Yesterday they won 4x1 against Bahia and they're four points off leader Botafogo, there's still a way to go, and Botafogo could have problems at the end of the championship, just like last year.

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Quote from: uneng on September 21, 2024, 07:20:19 PM

Unpredictable match between Botafogo and Fluminense until the final minutes. A very important one for both clubs: for Botafogo, the victory was essential to get +3 points distant from second place Palmeiras on the table, while for Fluminense it was the opportunity to climb up on the rank in an attempt to get out from relegation zone. After all, Botafogo did the unexpected in the final minutes of the game, thanks to Gregore and Luiz Henrique who were in the right place at the right time. Gregore took the ball from Fluminense's defender close to the rival's goal area, sent to Luiz Henrique who didn't have to make any effort to score and guarantee the victory for Botafogo!

Let's go, Lonely Star!

Match was fierce and in the final minutes of the second half in extra time Botafogo got 1 goal advantage thanks to Luiz Henrique, with this victory Botafogo managed to get further away or keep the distance for the team below it.
Fluminense did suffer defeat and they failed to add points and avoid the relegation zone but Fluminense still has one postponed match against Athletico Paranaense and this could be an opportunity for Fluminense to get additional points later.
Brazil Serie-A competition still has 10 meetings left for each team that does not have postponed match, so it can be concluded that unexpected results can occur and big surprises will be present, what makes curious is who will really win the title for this season.

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Unpredictable match between Botafogo and Fluminense until the final minutes. A very important one for both clubs: for Botafogo, the victory was essential to get +3 points distant from second place Palmeiras on the table, while for Fluminense it was the opportunity to climb up on the rank in an attempt to get out from relegation zone. After all, Botafogo did the unexpected in the final minutes of the game, thanks to Gregore and Luiz Henrique who were in the right place at the right time. Gregore took the ball from Fluminense's defender close to the rival's goal area, sent to Luiz Henrique who didn't have to make any effort to score and guarantee the victory for Botafogo!

Let's go, Lonely Star!

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Gremio continue to perform up and down. At one point they were at the bottom of the league with just one win from 12 games. They recovered quickly afterwards and scored 13 points from 5 games. With these results, they breathed a sigh of relief. However, in the last games they went down again. Flamengo is in a state of chaos. Tite is being severely criticized. Due to their poor performances in their last games in the league, they have fallen out of the race for the top. On top of that, their loss in the first game of the Libertadores quarterfinals sent the fans into a frenzy. A single point loss here would put them even further away from the championship. Gremio will want to get off to a fast start in this match to get out of the bottom. Flamengo, on the other hand, may respond with the instinct to lose the championship.

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The dream is over Cheesy

. Now Fortaleza is returning to its normal place. It was a complete distortion for them to have led the Brazilian championship, and the next one to have their dream interrupted will be Botafogo. They will only be champions if Palmeiras does a lot of things wrong in the remaining games. I don't see either Botafogo or Fortaleza taking the championship this year.

I don't know which team you support, but I'm relieved to read your opinion and with that reinforcing the title of the three-time championship for brazil's favorite green team, Palmeiras is a surprising team, maybe I'll go back to betting on them and Flamengo, since they've been maintaining consistency in their last games, despite the mess in Flamengo's last game.

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thank you for sharing these links
this is all really interesting
nice to learn a bit more about one of the biggest teams in Brazil too

interesting to see they monetizing on the fans and as I suspected the biggest revenue sources are marketing campaigns and placement.

Yes, it is a gold mine that was previously unexplored. The brand of a big club and everything that involves it generates a lot of revenue, licensing, broadcast TV contracts, pay-per-view, members, shirts... it really is a lot. Now there is the issue of the stadium. Until now, Flamengo paid to play. Soon, with its own stadium, it will collect all the ticket sales and only have to cover operating costs. And it is not uncommon for a match to generate more than R$1 million in ticket sales. Good management makes a big difference, without the need for SAF or anything like that. It is a shame that not all clubs see this and the old policy continues.

do we have any other cases like that in Brazil, even with smaller numbers?
why do you think other clubs don't see such a big success as Flamengo even though some are even placed better in the rankings and all

curious to see

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Don't you think that Corinthians has been recovering well in its last few games, despite the imminent and perhaps inevitable threat of relegation to Serie B?

I feel that Fortaleza has been declining, it's difficult to maintain consistency even though it's a team in good form, which is why I think this championship is the most successful of the majority, because it's long (it lasts practically the entire year) and the teams wear themselves out a lot.

Fortaleza suffering the loss on Sudamerican cup, if they go out of that competition they can be in a big trouble, you know is a big blow to the faith of the players being out of that international tournament, when they started it in a super way.

The dream is over Cheesy

. Now Fortaleza is returning to its normal place. It was a complete distortion for them to have led the Brazilian championship, and the next one to have their dream interrupted will be Botafogo. They will only be champions if Palmeiras does a lot of things wrong in the remaining games. I don't see either Botafogo or Fortaleza taking the championship this year.

It's the famous Jabuti, nobody knows how he got there, but he's there. Now they're coming back to reality, unfortunately. I hope they play well away from home, because they're going to need it. Otherwise, it will be the beginning of a big crisis for the team.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on September 19, 2024, 07:06:09 PM

Quote from: rdluffy on September 19, 2024, 11:56:55 AM

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Don't you think that Corinthians has been recovering well in its last few games, despite the imminent and perhaps inevitable threat of relegation to Serie B?

I feel that Fortaleza has been declining, it's difficult to maintain consistency even though it's a team in good form, which is why I think this championship is the most successful of the majority, because it's long (it lasts practically the entire year) and the teams wear themselves out a lot.

The Brazilian Seria A has lots a lot of good whole teams I used to bet and hold highly of and one of which is Santos and even Gremio although there are still in the top flight but not as they used to perform and aslo for Corinthians I hope they get back in stride although like you said they have been showing promising signs and most especially in their previous games. Corinthians with this kind of gameplay would be ready although I was a bit surprised to see flamengo lose out in the Copa game they played .

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Quote from: rdluffy on September 19, 2024, 11:56:55 AM

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Don't you think that Corinthians has been recovering well in its last few games, despite the imminent and perhaps inevitable threat of relegation to Serie B?

I feel that Fortaleza has been declining, it's difficult to maintain consistency even though it's a team in good form, which is why I think this championship is the most successful of the majority, because it's long (it lasts practically the entire year) and the teams wear themselves out a lot.

Fortaleza suffering the loss on Sudamerican cup, if they go out of that competition they can be in a big trouble, you know is a big blow to the faith of the players being out of that international tournament, when they started it in a super way.

The dream is over Cheesy

. Now Fortaleza is returning to its normal place. It was a complete distortion for them to have led the Brazilian championship, and the next one to have their dream interrupted will be Botafogo. They will only be champions if Palmeiras does a lot of things wrong in the remaining games. I don't see either Botafogo or Fortaleza taking the championship this year.

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