Topic: Brasileirão 2024 - Brazilian Championship Serie A - page 9. (Read 2145 times)
I would like your opinion on the teams from the north and northeast. The most recent campaign that I currently remember is Fortaleza, which went very far. Furthermore, we have Bahia with strong foreign investment. In your view, are the north and northeast already able to compete with teams from the RIO SP axis?
The other day I put together some information to compare the state champions with the Brazilian championship, to help in my long bet
7 times, or 70%, the Brazilian champion was also state champion
2014 - Cruzeiro - - won Brasileirão and Mineiro
2015 - Corinthians - won Brasileirão
2016 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão
2017 - Corinthians - won Brasileirão and Paulista
2018 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão
2019 - Flamengo - won Brasileirão and Carioca
2020 - Flamengo - won Brasileirão and Carioca
2021 - Atlético MG - won Brasileirão and Mineiro
2022 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão and Paulista
2023 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão and Paulista
7 times, or 70%, the Brazilian champion was also state champion
2014 - Cruzeiro - - won Brasileirão and Mineiro
2015 - Corinthians - won Brasileirão
2016 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão
2017 - Corinthians - won Brasileirão and Paulista
2018 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão
2019 - Flamengo - won Brasileirão and Carioca
2020 - Flamengo - won Brasileirão and Carioca
2021 - Atlético MG - won Brasileirão and Mineiro
2022 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão and Paulista
2023 - Palmeiras - won Brasileirão and Paulista
Is no one here talking about the women's Brasileirão?
This year I want to see discussions about this championship, which started today (March 15th).
The first games were marked by some draws...
Santos 1 x 1 Real Brasília
Ferroviária 1 x 1 Botafogo
This year, in the women's championship, I'm betting heavily on Flamengo, which has invested a lot in strengthening the team, the intention is to finally win the second championship after 8 years without winning.
And you, what are your bets for the women’s Brasileirão?
This year I want to see discussions about this championship, which started today (March 15th).
The first games were marked by some draws...
Santos 1 x 1 Real Brasília
Ferroviária 1 x 1 Botafogo
This year, in the women's championship, I'm betting heavily on Flamengo, which has invested a lot in strengthening the team, the intention is to finally win the second championship after 8 years without winning.
And you, what are your bets for the women’s Brasileirão?
To be honest, I didn't know there was a Brazilian women's championship lol
Obviously I will support Flamengo... Are these games broadcast somewhere? TV? Streaming?
I believe that several teams have undergone some changes and I would include Flamengo on that list.
Flamengo is an excellent team, but it is still far from its potential, I see that it is slowly improving (talking about Brasileirao). At the end of the championship of the last year, he had several opportunities to go to 1st place, but that didn't happen and Palmeiras took advantage of the chance and became champions last year.
I also agree, I have no doubt that Palmeiras is the favorite to be champion of the Brasileirao in 2024, but I would include other teams such as Flamengo, which year after year has been improving its performance in the Brasileirao, the other teams are Gremio and Atlético-MG .
Of course, there are other teams that could surprise this year, I would dare to say, Bragantino, and even Internacional, but to have the answer to that, only the future can show us.
Bragantino has been having good campaigns, one day they will get there. Maybe even Botafogo, which now has a multimillionaire owner, could perhaps compete for the titles.
Although I still consider Palmeiras the big favorite, perhaps not as much as in previous years, but the team has been consistently winning titles in recent years and will always be a favorite.
I'm very excited about Tite's Flamengo, I want to see how it will behave in a long championship, which whoever is most consistent wins.
But hasn't this been going on for long time?
In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
Flamengo went through a debt structuring and payment process that began with the administration of president Eduardo Bandeira de Mello in 2013, before it was a bankrupt team full of debt and now it is one of the richest clubs in South America. This change for more professional management resulted in Brazilian titles and 2nd place in the 2019 World Cup in the match with Liverpool.In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
All this time of instability is in the past, today are days of glory, always competing for titles, but without a doubt Palmeiras has done a little better, but it won't be forever (I hope so lol).
It very rare for team to really experience downturns and go bankrupt, but after several seasons they were able to recover with big changes and were even able to win the title, Flamengo showed how serious they were about achieving success.
They also experienced decline in performance after two seasons of being champions and this season Flamengo will still not be able to repeat the period of success in winning the title, maybe next season if they can fix some mistakes it could give Flamengo to the title again.
Honestly, now is not the right time to say that they have reached the glory days, and later when the competition starts we will be able to see whether Flamengo has really become success as you had hoped or not.
I would tend to make Palmeiras the favorite to defend the title this season.
Flamengo is an excellent team, but it is still far from its potential, I see that it is slowly improving (talking about Brasileirao). At the end of the championship of the last year, he had several opportunities to go to 1st place, but that didn't happen and Palmeiras took advantage of the chance and became champions last year.
I also agree, I have no doubt that Palmeiras is the favorite to be champion of the Brasileirao in 2024, but I would include other teams such as Flamengo, which year after year has been improving its performance in the Brasileirao, the other teams are Gremio and Atlético-MG .
Of course, there are other teams that could surprise this year, I would dare to say, Bragantino, and even Internacional, but to have the answer to that, only the future can show us.
Is no one here talking about the women's Brasileirão?
This year I want to see discussions about this championship, which started today (March 15th).
The first games were marked by some draws...
Santos 1 x 1 Real Brasília
Ferroviária 1 x 1 Botafogo
This year, in the women's championship, I'm betting heavily on Flamengo, which has invested a lot in strengthening the team, the intention is to finally win the second championship after 8 years without winning.
And you, what are your bets for the women’s Brasileirão?
This year I want to see discussions about this championship, which started today (March 15th).
The first games were marked by some draws...
Santos 1 x 1 Real Brasília
Ferroviária 1 x 1 Botafogo
This year, in the women's championship, I'm betting heavily on Flamengo, which has invested a lot in strengthening the team, the intention is to finally win the second championship after 8 years without winning.
And you, what are your bets for the women’s Brasileirão?
But hasn't this been going on for long time?
In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
Flamengo went through a debt structuring and payment process that began with the administration of president Eduardo Bandeira de Mello in 2013, before it was a bankrupt team full of debt and now it is one of the richest clubs in South America. This change for more professional management resulted in Brazilian titles and 2nd place in the 2019 World Cup in the match with Liverpool.In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
All this time of instability is in the past, today are days of glory, always competing for titles, but without a doubt Palmeiras has done a little better, but it won't be forever (I hope so lol).
It very rare for team to really experience downturns and go bankrupt, but after several seasons they were able to recover with big changes and were even able to win the title, Flamengo showed how serious they were about achieving success.
They also experienced decline in performance after two seasons of being champions and this season Flamengo will still not be able to repeat the period of success in winning the title, maybe next season if they can fix some mistakes it could give Flamengo to the title again.
Honestly, now is not the right time to say that they have reached the glory days, and later when the competition starts we will be able to see whether Flamengo has really become success as you had hoped or not.
I would tend to make Palmeiras the favorite to defend the title this season.
All this professionalization that we see in Brazilian football began with the example of Flamengo's management, going back to the past in 2010-2011 Vanderlei Luxemburgo decided to take training to "Ninho do Urubu", a training center that would be a training place for young players from club, this place was practically just a piece of land, with precarious accommodation, which is how the idea of having a high-level training center began.
As Flamengo already owned the land, they only had to invest in infrastructure, this made a HUGE difference in attracting good players, as they would now have a European-class training center at their disposal. There where it all began, soon after Bandeira de Melo was elected president and the rest became history...
In short, it all starts from the inside out.
But hasn't this been going on for long time?
In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
Flamengo went through a debt structuring and payment process that began with the administration of president Eduardo Bandeira de Mello in 2013, before it was a bankrupt team full of debt and now it is one of the richest clubs in South America. This change for more professional management resulted in Brazilian titles and 2nd place in the 2019 World Cup in the match with Liverpool.In reality, the controversy that arises cannot change anything and those who are in authority and have full rights over this competition can regulate it.
Moreover, Flamengo is also not stable team, even though they have also been champions of the Brazilian Serie A several times in the 2019 and 2020 season, but in reality we see that on paper Palmeiras is the best.
All this time of instability is in the past, today are days of glory, always competing for titles, but without a doubt Palmeiras has done a little better, but it won't be forever (I hope so lol).
It very rare for team to really experience downturns and go bankrupt, but after several seasons they were able to recover with big changes and were even able to win the title, Flamengo showed how serious they were about achieving success.
They also experienced decline in performance after two seasons of being champions and this season Flamengo will still not be able to repeat the period of success in winning the title, maybe next season if they can fix some mistakes it could give Flamengo to the title again.
Honestly, now is not the right time to say that they have reached the glory days, and later when the competition starts we will be able to see whether Flamengo has really become success as you had hoped or not.
I would tend to make Palmeiras the favorite to defend the title this season.
Maybe they are fleeing Argentina's poverty and superinflation? I imagine so, as it is very advantageous for them to play in the neighboring country, they will be somewhat close to their family and they also receive payment in a currency that is not as devalued as the Argentine Peso. There are many good players there who wouldn't have a place in big European teams, so the natural thing is that they look for a competitive league, but not top tier. In this case, the Brasileirão.
Hmm... that might be a possibility and I haven't thought about it.I don't know what the situation is like in Argentina and I also don't know if football has been greatly affected compared to the Argentine population, especially the poor.
In Argentina they still have great and well-known teams such as Boca Juniors, Racing, Independiente, River Plate and others.
But I agree with what you said, the "Brazilian Real" is a more valued currency than the "Argentine Peso" and I won't deny it, in Brazil there are several teams as good as in Argentina
I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.
I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.
I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol
And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.
Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America
https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
The same for me... I'm also looking forward to the start of the Brasileirao I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.
I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol
And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.
Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America
https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
Although this year we will have some surprises from teams that had been unable to make it to Series A of the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao) for years.
I confess that I found these statistics of foreign players in Brazilian football very interesting, I didn't know that there was such a significant number of South American players playing in Brazil.
An interesting fact is that 30.7% of the foreign players who will play in the Brasileirao are Argentinians, a significant number.
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Os argentinos representam a nacionalidade mais presente entre os reforços gringos contratados pelos times da elite do futebol brasileiro. São 16 entre os 52 estrangeiros - uma fatia de 30,7%.
source:Janela de transferências da Série A tem recorde de contratações de estrangeiros; veja listaMaybe they are fleeing Argentina's poverty and superinflation? I imagine so, as it is very advantageous for them to play in the neighboring country, they will be somewhat close to their family and they also receive payment in a currency that is not as devalued as the Argentine Peso. There are many good players there who wouldn't have a place in big European teams, so the natural thing is that they look for a competitive league, but not top tier. In this case, the Brasileirão.
I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.
I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.
I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol
And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.
Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America
https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
The same for me... I'm also looking forward to the start of the Brasileirao I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.
I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol
And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.
Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America
https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
Although this year we will have some surprises from teams that had been unable to make it to Series A of the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao) for years.
I confess that I found these statistics of foreign players in Brazilian football very interesting, I didn't know that there was such a significant number of South American players playing in Brazil.
An interesting fact is that 30.7% of the foreign players who will play in the Brasileirao are Argentinians, a significant number.
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Os argentinos representam a nacionalidade mais presente entre os reforços gringos contratados pelos times da elite do futebol brasileiro. São 16 entre os 52 estrangeiros - uma fatia de 30,7%.
source:Janela de transferências da Série A tem recorde de contratações de estrangeiros; veja lista Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol
If the coach manages to get the team right, it is possible to try for a place in the Sudamericana, since last year even 14th place managed to get a place in the Sudamericana hehehe, almost all the teams did it
Corinthians failed to qualify for this year's state championship, and now it's crucial that the team makes its final changes. The team has about a month to work on building a competitive side for the Brazilian championship
I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?
I think it's very difficult to adjust the team in just 1 month, it takes months of work, it starts in the pre-season, so I believe the team will stay there without big aspirations in the championship, maybe it can even be in the top 10, at most.
I also wait for the state championships to end to get a sense of the team's potential as most use the state championships as tests for the team's experiments.
I can't wait for the Brasileirão to start soon to try to capture some money in the betting lol
And recently Brazilian football had a record number of foreign signings.
Brazilian football really seems to be very attractive to foreigners from South America
https://ge.globo.com/espiao-estatistico/noticia/2024/03/10/janela-de-transferencias-da-serie-a-tem-recorde-de-contratacoes-de-estrangeiros-veja-lista.ghtml
I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?
The same for me...Will you do it too?
After all, there is almost a month left until the start of the Brasileirao.
I believe that with the results of the state championships we will already be able to have an idea of how some teams will perform in the Brazilian championship (Brasileirao).
In Paulistao (state championship in the state of São Paulo) we have Palmeiras, São Paulo and Bragantino in the Quarter Finals. I have no doubt that these teams I mentioned are great candidates to become Paulistao champions... and perhaps Brgantino could perform well in the Brasileirao and also Palmeiras...
And you guys? What are your bets?
I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.
I have to agree with you, there's no chance of the title, unless there's a miracle (which I think is difficult in this kind of championship based in points)
Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol
If the coach manages to get the team right, it is possible to try for a place in the Sudamericana, since last year even 14th place managed to get a place in the Sudamericana hehehe, almost all the teams did it
Corinthians failed to qualify for this year's state championship, and now it's crucial that the team makes its final changes. The team has about a month to work on building a competitive side for the Brazilian championship
I'm waiting for the end of the state championships to make my prediction for the 2024 championship
Will you do it too?
Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
Look, this is true! Well, if I'm not mistaken, there were still chances of Corinthians being relegated and going to second division of Brasileirao, but that almost didn't happen. Regarding Santos, they didn't have the same "luck" as Corinthians and were relegated.The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.
Corinthians with the team they have is to compete for a place in CONMEBOL Sudamericana, perhaps with great luck a place in the CONMEBOL Libertadores, nothing more than that... Maybe something will change only if it has extra support from the field of our current president of the republic, who is a big Corinthians fan lol
Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
Look, this is true! Well, if I'm not mistaken, there were still chances of Corinthians being relegated and going to second division of Brasileirao, but that almost didn't happen. Regarding Santos, they didn't have the same "luck" as Corinthians and were relegated.The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
I'm not a football expert, but analyzing the Brazilian scenario in a superficial way, I believe that Corinthians will hardly be able to be champions of this year in Brasileirao, if they perform well, I imagine they will have a chance of finishing in the top 10 of that championship.
The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).
From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference
From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference
My team (Internacional) managed to "meet the target" of expected signings and I'm satisfied with what they did compared to the financial budget they had available for this season... R$ 75 million (Brazilian currency).
If I'm not mistaken, they signed more then 10 players to reinforce the team and, as expected, their stance for this season is to have a very offensive team. They got left of 13 players, but the change of players aded more quality to Internacional.... I'm expected
In 2023 the focus was on the Conmebol Libertadores, now in 2024 they will seek leadership of the Brasileirão, and I hope that this time they really achieve that instead of just being runners-up again.
Now, I'll wait and see how my team performs on the field.
Internacional invested a lot of money too, these current values of Brazilian football for me were something unimaginable 15/20 years ago, the vast majority of teams were bankrupt and full of debt... Revenue increased significantly compared to what it was in past...
A curiosity about Internacional, in Paraná (where I live), there are more Internacional and Grêmio fans than Atletico PR or Coritiba fans
I think the same about Corinthians. He is making coaching changes but it ends up having no effect. They haven't played well for a long time and at least they give me some confidence.
Good coaches have come through Corinthians recently and none have worked out. Which makes me think that the problem is not so simple to solve
Yes, that's what I think too. But I'm worried because it's a great team and it's not performing as such. I can't imagine them winning anything again or even getting out of this current situation unfortunately.
I think the same about Corinthians. He is making coaching changes but it ends up having no effect. They haven't played well for a long time and at least they give me some confidence.
Good coaches have come through Corinthians recently and none have worked out. Which makes me think that the problem is not so simple to solve
I believe that most of the problems facing Brazilian teams are amateur management and political conflicts within the club itself. I can't imagine anything else.
As I said above, I agree with you, I think the problem isn't just the coach or any player, but internal problems can affect the whole team a lot
I believe that Corinthians has been in a bad phase for some time, or rather, in stagnation.
Well, at least in the last few years they have managed to remain in Serie A of Brasileirao and qualified for the group stage of the Copa Sul Americana and Libertadores qualifiers. Let's see if Corinthians' performance this year will get worse or better.
Well, at least in the last few years they have managed to remain in Serie A of Brasileirao and qualified for the group stage of the Copa Sul Americana and Libertadores qualifiers. Let's see if Corinthians' performance this year will get worse or better.
Such a big team can't stay stagnant for so long
The good thing is that they weren't relegated like Santos, at least they stayed in Serie A, but it's been a long time since I've been excited about Corinthians in a championship
The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).
From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference
From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference
My team (Internacional) managed to "meet the target" of expected signings and I'm satisfied with what they did compared to the financial budget they had available for this season... R$ 75 million (Brazilian currency).
If I'm not mistaken, they signed more then 10 players to reinforce the team and, as expected, their stance for this season is to have a very offensive team. They got left of 13 players, but the change of players aded more quality to Internacional.... I'm expected
In 2023 the focus was on the Conmebol Libertadores, now in 2024 they will seek leadership of the Brasileirão, and I hope that this time they really achieve that instead of just being runners-up again.
Now, I'll wait and see how my team performs on the field.
The 2024 Brazilian championship begins next month, and today is the last day of the transfer window, in the team you follow, are you satisfied with the squad? My team (Flamengo-RJ) made a lot of investments in this first window, an investment of almost 160 million reais in reinforcements: De la Cruz (River Plate-ARG), Matias Viña (Roma-ITA) and Léo Ortiz (Bragantino).
From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference
From a bankrupt team to one of Brazil's financial powerhouses... good management makes all the difference
To tell you the truth, I'm very pessimistic, I support Corinthians, but the team is doing badly
They didn't even qualify for the Paulista championship, they've just changed coach and they still haven't managed to play well
If they continue playing like this, they'll be at the bottom of the championship and have no chance of at least making the top four to qualify for the Libertadores
I don't know how such a big team, with so much sponsorship money, can't get a competitive team
Who else here is pessimistic about the team for the Brasileirão?
Well, at least in the last few years they have managed to remain in Serie A of Brasileirao and qualified for the group stage of the Copa Sul Americana and Libertadores qualifiers. Let's see if Corinthians' performance this year will get worse or better.
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