btc-e.top is registered to EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD
now btc-e.top redirects to exmo.com
Our money are at exmo.com?
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btc-e.nz is registered to EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD
btc-e.top is registered to EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD
now btc-e.top redirects to exmo.com
Our money are at exmo.com?
btc-e.top is registered to EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD
now btc-e.top redirects to exmo.com
Our money are at exmo.com?
when you transfer something on btc-e exchange, it is no longer yours. They give you a remote to do something with it, but that's about it.
so, all who had something on btc-e, return is based only on a good will. Or luck. Or Russian steel balls. Divine providence. Call it whatever you want.
So far, i choose to believe them. Time will show.
Everybody involved should keep calm and wait, pissing around with lawyers, mafia, baseball bats and so on, makes you look like 2yr old girl who lost her favorite blanket.
so, all who had something on btc-e, return is based only on a good will. Or luck. Or Russian steel balls. Divine providence. Call it whatever you want.
So far, i choose to believe them. Time will show.
Everybody involved should keep calm and wait, pissing around with lawyers, mafia, baseball bats and so on, makes you look like 2yr old girl who lost her favorite blanket.
basically. russian steel balls is our best bet. if they weren't russian, i'd have considered this over days ago. but for now, i still give it a small chance. probably less than 10%.
there are still some problems here. even if they successfully evaded having much fiat seized (through various shell companies, less friendly jurisdictions, etc), how can they realistically operate a USD or EUR exchange at this point? they will be blacklisted.
maybe they can just use Tether? is that possible?
i guess maybe things like webmoney, yandex, etc might still work? not sure.....
Russian steel balls. I like that!
Sigh---time will tell, guys. I have given up hope so that I can put my mind to rebuilding. It will be a long process. I kept almost all my crypto money on BTC-e. Live and learn! I always wanted to be ready to dump if necessary. Now I see it was not worth it.
Good luck everyone.
when you transfer something on btc-e exchange, it is no longer yours. They give you a remote to do something with it, but that's about it.
so, all who had something on btc-e, return is based only on a good will. Or luck. Or Russian steel balls. Divine providence. Call it whatever you want.
So far, i choose to believe them. Time will show.
Everybody involved should keep calm and wait, pissing around with lawyers, mafia, baseball bats and so on, makes you look like 2yr old girl who lost her favorite blanket.
so, all who had something on btc-e, return is based only on a good will. Or luck. Or Russian steel balls. Divine providence. Call it whatever you want.
So far, i choose to believe them. Time will show.
Everybody involved should keep calm and wait, pissing around with lawyers, mafia, baseball bats and so on, makes you look like 2yr old girl who lost her favorite blanket.
basically. russian steel balls is our best bet. if they weren't russian, i'd have considered this over days ago. but for now, i still give it a small chance. probably less than 10%.
there are still some problems here. even if they successfully evaded having much fiat seized (through various shell companies, less friendly jurisdictions, etc), how can they realistically operate a USD or EUR exchange at this point? they will be blacklisted.
maybe they can just use Tether? is that possible?
i guess maybe things like webmoney, yandex, etc might still work? not sure.....
when you transfer something on btc-e exchange, it is no longer yours. They give you a remote to do something with it, but that's about it.
so, all who had something on btc-e, return is based only on a good will. Or luck. Or Russian steel balls. Divine providence. Call it whatever you want.
So far, i choose to believe them. Time will show.
Everybody involved should keep calm and wait, pissing around with lawyers, mafia, baseball bats and so on, makes you look like 2yr old girl who lost her favorite blanket.
so, all who had something on btc-e, return is based only on a good will. Or luck. Or Russian steel balls. Divine providence. Call it whatever you want.
So far, i choose to believe them. Time will show.
Everybody involved should keep calm and wait, pissing around with lawyers, mafia, baseball bats and so on, makes you look like 2yr old girl who lost her favorite blanket.
Mayzus replied about false accusations:
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu/
translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.bits.media%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu%2F&edit-text=
With some more details at:
http://blog.moneypolo.com/en/official-press-release-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-billion-bitcoin-laundering-ring/
There you can read:
"We have taken steps to lock all pending transactions and freeze the accounts and transaction that we have already identified as potentially connected to this recent event.".
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu/
translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.bits.media%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu%2F&edit-text=
With some more details at:
http://blog.moneypolo.com/en/official-press-release-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-billion-bitcoin-laundering-ring/
There you can read:
"We have taken steps to lock all pending transactions and freeze the accounts and transaction that we have already identified as potentially connected to this recent event.".
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
That sounds pretty bad. How do you know there wasn't much in those accounts? As far as moving money into or out of the exchange, it was always through Mayzus and/or Okpay. But that doesn't tell us what entities hold most of the exchange's fiat money, and if it was at risk of seizure.
Crazy times...
Well, I remember of a statement of them saying that they never holding clients funds.
from everything i can gather, it seems that they likely hold/held fiat money in various shell companies several degrees removed from the exchange itself. i believe BTC-e never held bank accounts in its name. they had people transfer fiat through various intermediaries (involving Mayzus Financial) but i would think that the money is a bit harder to track than that. and hopefully out of reach of the US feds.
Hi everyone,
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Can we all send them similar messages (please refrain from abusive language etc). We need to try to solve this issue. If this does not work, we can then think about other steps and actions.
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Can we all send them similar messages (please refrain from abusive language etc). We need to try to solve this issue. If this does not work, we can then think about other steps and actions.
I have done likewise as follows:
To whom it may concern
It is my understanding that on July 25 2017, the BTC-e domain, assets and customer funds were seized by the FBI. It was also my understanding that the rationale behind this action was that BTC-e was at the time believed to be owned and controlled by Alexander Vinnik (indicted for numerous financial violations including AML). The exact same indictments against Vinnik were mirrored to reflect BTC-e's purported complicity. I am aware that the association with Alexander Vinnik has been contested by BTC-e and the substance defining the association is now in question yet the indictments against BTC-e remain.
I have used the currency exchange intermittently for several years and have been unaware of any violations. Indeed, the very fact that the exchange has been openly operating unchallenged since 2011 allayed any concerns. It is my opinion that most BTC-e users share my nativity in this regard. Internet related international corporate legislation has become such a complicated evolution of highly specialised thinking and precedents that it is difficult even for the companies involved in such sectors to remain up to date with legal operational requirements. Because of such complexities one would reasonably assume that legal action would be preceded by serving of non-compliance notices.
It is natural to assume that one of the largest and public facing exchanges is running with full legitimacy. Furthermore, with regard to its user base, although many have some experience and knowledge in respect of the technical and financial intricacies, I believe that the legal position and jurisdiction in relation a globalised internet based hi-tech financial institution is totally beyond the understanding of the majority of users. I realise that, as with many systems including fiat markets and cash there are opportunities for exploitation by criminally minded individuals and organisation. This does not however mean that all the users of such facilities, nor indeed the facilities themselves are complicit in such abuses. I myself have acted transparently and never tried to hide my identity, indeed I provided BTC-e with relevant KYC documents to facilitate funding deposits.
Everyone who faces the uncertainty with regard to the fate of their money has their own story, as for myself the funds were part of a saving's strategy to fund our son's education and future needs. In my opinion, the majority of the exchange's customers have become unwitting collateral victims. I would assume that there are safeguards to protect innocent people in our position. So far there has been no statement indicating the position with regard to our money. This state of limbo perpetuates an unhealthy anxiety for us and our families and although logic and justice suggest that our investments should be ring-fenced and safeguarded in a fair world, we would seek re-assurances from FinCEN, the FBI and the US government that this is the position.
I therefore urge you to consider the above points and provide us with a statement of reassurance that our positions are being protected in a fair and just manner.
Yours Faithfully
Are you guys still believe in santa? We will not get any refund from Btc-e nor US government . US government always interpret their own laws depending on their own interests and Btc-e owners right now are covering the tracks so they can run away with remaining funds, or they will offer the funds to fbi to avoid getting in jail.
As I said before we need a new coin where, in situations like this, users can vote and in case of a majority will freeze the stolen coins until the exchange or authorities can prove which coins are dirty and which are legit.
Somebody said that will be the end of crypto.I don't think so.Look at ethereum, they did roll back and the price and popularity compared to 2016 is huge. There are thousands of coins nobody is using so another useless coin will not be the end of crypto.
I'm a trader not a programmer, but if somebody will make a coin that:
If something like this is technically possible then I will be happy to make a donation to help development.
As I said before we need a new coin where, in situations like this, users can vote and in case of a majority will freeze the stolen coins until the exchange or authorities can prove which coins are dirty and which are legit.
Somebody said that will be the end of crypto.I don't think so.Look at ethereum, they did roll back and the price and popularity compared to 2016 is huge. There are thousands of coins nobody is using so another useless coin will not be the end of crypto.
I'm a trader not a programmer, but if somebody will make a coin that:
- is based on some type of pos algorithm where stake will be very small 1coin or something very small to ensure everyone can take part
- generated coins will be awarded to a random peer(s) or some algo to ensure fair coin distribution
- a simple voting system so the community will decide in case like gox, btc-e or major software changes
If something like this is technically possible then I will be happy to make a donation to help development.
quote from the above linked article
"Innocence is not a defense. Most of BTC-e’s clients are clearly innocent, yet the indictment’s wording reflects the authorities’ view that all users are criminals."
"Innocence is not a defense. Most of BTC-e’s clients are clearly innocent, yet the indictment’s wording reflects the authorities’ view that all users are criminals."
The entertainment level of this thread is falling hard.
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3) No morbid gloating from basement dwelling nihilists
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eyes on the prize
Mayzus replied about false accusations:
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu/
translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.bits.media%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu%2F&edit-text=
With some more details at:
http://blog.moneypolo.com/en/official-press-release-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-billion-bitcoin-laundering-ring/
There you can read:
"We have taken steps to lock all pending transactions and freeze the accounts and transaction that we have already identified as potentially connected to this recent event.".
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu/
translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.bits.media%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu%2F&edit-text=
With some more details at:
http://blog.moneypolo.com/en/official-press-release-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-billion-bitcoin-laundering-ring/
There you can read:
"We have taken steps to lock all pending transactions and freeze the accounts and transaction that we have already identified as potentially connected to this recent event.".
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
That sounds pretty bad. How do you know there wasn't much in those accounts? As far as moving money into or out of the exchange, it was always through Mayzus and/or Okpay. But that doesn't tell us what entities hold most of the exchange's fiat money, and if it was at risk of seizure.
Crazy times...
Well, I remember of a statement of them saying that they never holding clients funds.
Mayzus replied about false accusations:
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu/
translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.bits.media%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu%2F&edit-text=
With some more details at:
http://blog.moneypolo.com/en/official-press-release-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-billion-bitcoin-laundering-ring/
There you can read:
"We have taken steps to lock all pending transactions and freeze the accounts and transaction that we have already identified as potentially connected to this recent event.".
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu/
translation: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.bits.media%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F43870-o-situatcii-s-birzhei-btc-e-i-spekuliatciiakh-na-media-resu%2F&edit-text=
With some more details at:
http://blog.moneypolo.com/en/official-press-release-greece-arrests-russian-suspected-of-running-4-billion-bitcoin-laundering-ring/
There you can read:
"We have taken steps to lock all pending transactions and freeze the accounts and transaction that we have already identified as potentially connected to this recent event.".
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
That sounds pretty bad. How do you know there wasn't much in those accounts? As far as moving money into or out of the exchange, it was always through Mayzus and/or Okpay. But that doesn't tell us what entities hold most of the exchange's fiat money, and if it was at risk of seizure.
Crazy times...
Can anyone clarify the position in relation to the UK based company "Always Efficient LLP"
I have read that the partnership was somehow connected to BTC-e
The latest filing activity was:
26 Jul 2017 Notification of Alexander Buyanov as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 Russian resident
26 Jul 2017 Cessation of Andrii Shvet as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 (authorised by "judicial factor")
They have two officers based in the Seychelles
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC394172/officers
I have read that the partnership was somehow connected to BTC-e
The latest filing activity was:
26 Jul 2017 Notification of Alexander Buyanov as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 Russian resident
26 Jul 2017 Cessation of Andrii Shvet as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 (authorised by "judicial factor")
They have two officers based in the Seychelles
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC394172/officers
http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=Alexander+Buyanov
The entertainment level of this thread is falling hard.
Here are some posting guidelines:
1) No walls of text
2) No verbatum legal gibberish
3) No morbid gloating from basement dwelling nihilists
4) More tits
Pretty easy for you all to follow this superb advice
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1) No walls of text
2) No verbatum legal gibberish
3) No morbid gloating from basement dwelling nihilists
4) More tits
Pretty easy for you all to follow this superb advice
So that means that Moneypolo, Mayzus, have blocked all BTC-e fiat bank accounts. But I think there was not much of fiat cash in those accounts anyway.
I sold my btc like 5 minutes before the takedown, so I was all in fiat
. Bad news.Do not worry, btce will socialize the lost funds and refund everybody.
I really hope you're right. I hope for both our sakes we get our cash back, if I remember correctly we both had 6-figure values on there
If they can do the BFX token method that could work, people will need to be made confident they can put their money back on and trade. I enjoy trading on this exchange but the support and not knowing those running the system was a bother. Maybe they can improve this.
Can anyone clarify the position in relation to the UK based company "Always Efficient LLP"
I have read that the partnership was somehow connected to BTC-e
The latest filing activity was:
26 Jul 2017 Notification of Alexander Buyanov as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 Russian resident
26 Jul 2017 Cessation of Andrii Shvet as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 (authorised by "judicial factor")
They have two officers based in the Seychelles
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC394172/officers
I have read that the partnership was somehow connected to BTC-e
The latest filing activity was:
26 Jul 2017 Notification of Alexander Buyanov as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 Russian resident
26 Jul 2017 Cessation of Andrii Shvet as a person with significant control on 26 July 2017 (authorised by "judicial factor")
They have two officers based in the Seychelles
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/OC394172/officers
Hi everyone,
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Recently the US government, the FBI, and FinCEN acted against BTC-e, which led to its closure. To my understanding, the US government and FinCEN were not happy about BTC-e not having any protocols in place to prevent money laundering and also for not following the KYC and AML laws, whilst BTC-e had their servers operating from the United States. Also, there were concerns raised regarding the involvement of Alexander Vinnik with BTC-e. This ultimately led to the shutdown of BTC-e servers on the 25th of July 2017.
My question is what steps the FinCEN, the FBI and the US government are going to take in order to safeguard the innocent people according to the consitutional laws in the United States of America? Like me, many innocent people had their money and other funds on BTC-e, which are now stuck. I am a hard working person and can provide details of all my financial activties, none of which have broken any laws anywhere to my knowledge. I was not even aware that BTC-e servers were based in the United States. To my knowledge, they had an office in UK and also in some other countries.
I need my hard-earned money back. I have also spoken with countless other users who are also innocent and have not done anything wrong.
A statement has been released by BTC-e yesterday online which clearly states that their servers were shut by the FBI. The acting director of FinCEN, Mr Jamal El Hindi, made a statement last week in which he said “We will hold accountable foreign-located money transmitters, including virtual currency exchangers, that do business in the United States when they willfully violate U.S. anti-money laundering laws...” but he failed to mention anything about the steps the FinCEN is taking to return the funds of innocent bystanders.
We are anxious to hear what safegaurds the US Government, The FBI and FinCEN are going to give to the innocent users whose money is being held hostage during this event. I am therefore requesting that FinCEN directors take this matter into account. I am sure that all the parties can come to some working terms which can be beneficial for the interests of everyone. Of course, in no way any crime should be encouraged, but then prevention of harm to innocent people is not just a responsibility for those is power, but also failure to prevent any such harm to innocents in its own merits is also a crime by all laws. I also want to say that every user that I have spoken with has said that they would want their funds refunded to them. We are all willing to cooperate with any agency as long as we recieve a guarantee from FinCEN, the FBI and the US goverenment that they will act to prevent any such financial harm to the innocent users.
Also, it is a bit sad to see that a pledge has been made by BTC-e and they are willing to take steps to safeguard its innocent users. BTC-e is the one trying to defend intself in a positive wat. However, no such statement has been made by FinCEN, the FBI or the US government. We are all waiting quite anxiously to hear from FinCEN and FBI about any announcements related to the above issue.
Regards,
Can we all send them similar messages (please refrain from abusive language etc). We need to try to solve this issue. If this does not work, we can then think about other steps and actions.
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Recently the US government, the FBI, and FinCEN acted against BTC-e, which led to its closure. To my understanding, the US government and FinCEN were not happy about BTC-e not having any protocols in place to prevent money laundering and also for not following the KYC and AML laws, whilst BTC-e had their servers operating from the United States. Also, there were concerns raised regarding the involvement of Alexander Vinnik with BTC-e. This ultimately led to the shutdown of BTC-e servers on the 25th of July 2017.
My question is what steps the FinCEN, the FBI and the US government are going to take in order to safeguard the innocent people according to the consitutional laws in the United States of America? Like me, many innocent people had their money and other funds on BTC-e, which are now stuck. I am a hard working person and can provide details of all my financial activties, none of which have broken any laws anywhere to my knowledge. I was not even aware that BTC-e servers were based in the United States. To my knowledge, they had an office in UK and also in some other countries.
I need my hard-earned money back. I have also spoken with countless other users who are also innocent and have not done anything wrong.
A statement has been released by BTC-e yesterday online which clearly states that their servers were shut by the FBI. The acting director of FinCEN, Mr Jamal El Hindi, made a statement last week in which he said “We will hold accountable foreign-located money transmitters, including virtual currency exchangers, that do business in the United States when they willfully violate U.S. anti-money laundering laws...” but he failed to mention anything about the steps the FinCEN is taking to return the funds of innocent bystanders.
We are anxious to hear what safegaurds the US Government, The FBI and FinCEN are going to give to the innocent users whose money is being held hostage during this event. I am therefore requesting that FinCEN directors take this matter into account. I am sure that all the parties can come to some working terms which can be beneficial for the interests of everyone. Of course, in no way any crime should be encouraged, but then prevention of harm to innocent people is not just a responsibility for those is power, but also failure to prevent any such harm to innocents in its own merits is also a crime by all laws. I also want to say that every user that I have spoken with has said that they would want their funds refunded to them. We are all willing to cooperate with any agency as long as we recieve a guarantee from FinCEN, the FBI and the US goverenment that they will act to prevent any such financial harm to the innocent users.
Also, it is a bit sad to see that a pledge has been made by BTC-e and they are willing to take steps to safeguard its innocent users. BTC-e is the one trying to defend intself in a positive wat. However, no such statement has been made by FinCEN, the FBI or the US government. We are all waiting quite anxiously to hear from FinCEN and FBI about any announcements related to the above issue.
Regards,
Can we all send them similar messages (please refrain from abusive language etc). We need to try to solve this issue. If this does not work, we can then think about other steps and actions.
Well done +1
I will do likewise!
Hi everyone,
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Dear Sir/Madam,
............
We are anxious to hear what safegaurds the US Government, The FBI and FinCEN are going to give to the innocent users whose money is being held hostage during this event. I am therefore requesting that FinCEN directors take this matter into account. I am sure that all the parties can come to some working terms which can be beneficial for the interests of everyone. Of course, in no way any crime should be encouraged, but then prevention of harm to innocent people is not just a responsibility for those is power, but also failure to prevent any such harm to innocents in its own merits is also a crime by all laws. I also want to say that every user that I have spoken with has said that they would want their funds refunded to them. We are all willing to cooperate with any agency as long as we recieve a guarantee from FinCEN, the FBI and the US goverenment that they will act to prevent any such financial harm to the innocent users.
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Dear Sir/Madam,
............
We are anxious to hear what safegaurds the US Government, The FBI and FinCEN are going to give to the innocent users whose money is being held hostage during this event. I am therefore requesting that FinCEN directors take this matter into account. I am sure that all the parties can come to some working terms which can be beneficial for the interests of everyone. Of course, in no way any crime should be encouraged, but then prevention of harm to innocent people is not just a responsibility for those is power, but also failure to prevent any such harm to innocents in its own merits is also a crime by all laws. I also want to say that every user that I have spoken with has said that they would want their funds refunded to them. We are all willing to cooperate with any agency as long as we recieve a guarantee from FinCEN, the FBI and the US goverenment that they will act to prevent any such financial harm to the innocent users.
If you have actually sent that message they will just reply to you asking whom do you represent when you refer as "we" in your letter.
Btw, you forgot to spell check your message a lot.
because they know that they are outlaw. anyway, this doesn't change anything. Poloniex is a MSB but they are not registered as MSB; same shit like BTC-e 
According to their new Terms of Use, Poloniex is a registered MSB with registration number 31000091844018.
Hi everyone,
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Recently the US government, the FBI, and FinCEN acted against BTC-e, which led to its closure. To my understanding, the US government and FinCEN were not happy about BTC-e not having any protocols in place to prevent money laundering and also for not following the KYC and AML laws, whilst BTC-e had their servers operating from the United States. Also, there were concerns raised regarding the involvement of Alexander Vinnik with BTC-e. This ultimately led to the shutdown of BTC-e servers on the 25th of July 2017.
My question is what steps the FinCEN, the FBI and the US government are going to take in order to safeguard the innocent people according to the consitutional laws in the United States of America? Like me, many innocent people had their money and other funds on BTC-e, which are now stuck. I am a hard working person and can provide details of all my financial activties, none of which have broken any laws anywhere to my knowledge. I was not even aware that BTC-e servers were based in the United States. To my knowledge, they had an office in UK and also in some other countries.
I need my hard-earned money back. I have also spoken with countless other users who are also innocent and have not done anything wrong.
A statement has been released by BTC-e yesterday online which clearly states that their servers were shut by the FBI. The acting director of FinCEN, Mr Jamal El Hindi, made a statement last week in which he said “We will hold accountable foreign-located money transmitters, including virtual currency exchangers, that do business in the United States when they willfully violate U.S. anti-money laundering laws...” but he failed to mention anything about the steps the FinCEN is taking to return the funds of innocent bystanders.
We are anxious to hear what safegaurds the US Government, The FBI and FinCEN are going to give to the innocent users whose money is being held hostage during this event. I am therefore requesting that FinCEN directors take this matter into account. I am sure that all the parties can come to some working terms which can be beneficial for the interests of everyone. Of course, in no way any crime should be encouraged, but then prevention of harm to innocent people is not just a responsibility for those is power, but also failure to prevent any such harm to innocents in its own merits is also a crime by all laws. I also want to say that every user that I have spoken with has said that they would want their funds refunded to them. We are all willing to cooperate with any agency as long as we recieve a guarantee from FinCEN, the FBI and the US goverenment that they will act to prevent any such financial harm to the innocent users.
Also, it is a bit sad to see that a pledge has been made by BTC-e and they are willing to take steps to safeguard its innocent users. BTC-e is the one trying to defend intself in a positive wat. However, no such statement has been made by FinCEN, the FBI or the US government. We are all waiting quite anxiously to hear from FinCEN and FBI about any announcements related to the above issue.
Regards,
Can we all send them similar messages (please refrain from abusive language etc). We need to try to solve this issue. If this does not work, we can then think about other steps and actions.
I used the contact page at FinCEN and have sent them this message.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Recently the US government, the FBI, and FinCEN acted against BTC-e, which led to its closure. To my understanding, the US government and FinCEN were not happy about BTC-e not having any protocols in place to prevent money laundering and also for not following the KYC and AML laws, whilst BTC-e had their servers operating from the United States. Also, there were concerns raised regarding the involvement of Alexander Vinnik with BTC-e. This ultimately led to the shutdown of BTC-e servers on the 25th of July 2017.
My question is what steps the FinCEN, the FBI and the US government are going to take in order to safeguard the innocent people according to the consitutional laws in the United States of America? Like me, many innocent people had their money and other funds on BTC-e, which are now stuck. I am a hard working person and can provide details of all my financial activties, none of which have broken any laws anywhere to my knowledge. I was not even aware that BTC-e servers were based in the United States. To my knowledge, they had an office in UK and also in some other countries.
I need my hard-earned money back. I have also spoken with countless other users who are also innocent and have not done anything wrong.
A statement has been released by BTC-e yesterday online which clearly states that their servers were shut by the FBI. The acting director of FinCEN, Mr Jamal El Hindi, made a statement last week in which he said “We will hold accountable foreign-located money transmitters, including virtual currency exchangers, that do business in the United States when they willfully violate U.S. anti-money laundering laws...” but he failed to mention anything about the steps the FinCEN is taking to return the funds of innocent bystanders.
We are anxious to hear what safegaurds the US Government, The FBI and FinCEN are going to give to the innocent users whose money is being held hostage during this event. I am therefore requesting that FinCEN directors take this matter into account. I am sure that all the parties can come to some working terms which can be beneficial for the interests of everyone. Of course, in no way any crime should be encouraged, but then prevention of harm to innocent people is not just a responsibility for those is power, but also failure to prevent any such harm to innocents in its own merits is also a crime by all laws. I also want to say that every user that I have spoken with has said that they would want their funds refunded to them. We are all willing to cooperate with any agency as long as we recieve a guarantee from FinCEN, the FBI and the US goverenment that they will act to prevent any such financial harm to the innocent users.
Also, it is a bit sad to see that a pledge has been made by BTC-e and they are willing to take steps to safeguard its innocent users. BTC-e is the one trying to defend intself in a positive wat. However, no such statement has been made by FinCEN, the FBI or the US government. We are all waiting quite anxiously to hear from FinCEN and FBI about any announcements related to the above issue.
Regards,
Can we all send them similar messages (please refrain from abusive language etc). We need to try to solve this issue. If this does not work, we can then think about other steps and actions.
Just Sent a Copy Via https://www.fincen.gov/contact
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