Topic: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre - page 547. (Read 5489389 times)

Certains font du fric, et beaucoup en perdent. Et à mon avis, les traders qui se font du pognon sont beaucoup moins nombreux que ceux qui y perdent.

Je suis un peu dans le même cas que toi, je vois bien que certains profitent à fond chaque jour des hausses et des baisses, pour faire du fric,

Par manque d'experience, j'ai un peu peur de me lancer dans cette activité, pourtant lorsque j'achete du bitcoin, je passe bien par les plates formes, mais pour le moment je ne suis pas dans l'esprit d'en faire des plus values.

Bon ... le lundi chinois a commencé = +6% (300 euros)

+4,2% sur la dernière heure et +1,23% sur dimanche (heure chinoise).   Faudra que j'apprenne à jouer sur les + / - un jour pour gagner du pognon FIAT et vivre sans bosser.

C'est bizarre, ça me fait encore peur ...   peut être parce que faut jouer des 50k pour se faire 2k. 

Ah mister Bernankoin il doit être loin sur une île privé

Evidement. Et coinprism n'ira pas très loin je pense...

Non mais vous imaginez bitcoin se crasher!?

Il a sûrement eu mare des scams et investissements foireux. La dernière fois que je l'ai vu c’était quand Cognitive a foiré (perte de plus de 90% pour les investisseurs).

hdbuck, rocou et hologram illustrent parfaitement cette partie des gens qui s'interessent à bitcoin pour les mauvaises raisons et qui ne comprennent ni les enjeux ni les perspectives ... =/

C'est vrai ça, il est ou pankake ?

C'est vrai ça, il est ou pankake ?

This forum serves no purpose besides slowly but surely robbing users of their coins.
Do not trust anyone, especially at the higher level.

Bitcoin is not a payment network

Published on Wednesday 25 June 2014 in English
Tags: bitcoin, bitpay, cash, coinbase, inflation, obligatory trilema whoring, on n'accepte pas les chèques.


Bitcoin is often presented as a payment network.

I think this happens because it is more convenient to ignore the more politically controversial aspects of Bitcoin.

After all, everyone agrees that credit cards suck. You’re basically giving your private key to entities so they can charge you what they want; fraud is very high and the fixes are inconvenient two-factor authentication systems. When you’re used to Bitcoin, where you only sign transactions, this is laughable. Merchants also enjoy the certainty of no chargebacks and small entities do not get fucked by bank fees.

So Bitcoin does all of this better than credit cards, however, it is mostly because the state-backed banking monopoly and the mountain of “regulations”.

There’s no reason we could not have payment systems with instant payments, policies against chargebacks, secure transaction signing, etc.

Ripple is actually quite close to that, if you ignore their own altcoin bullshit; but I doubt Ripple would survive regulation if it ever becomes too popular.

Bitcoin detractors that interact with the poorly informed “bitcoin community” will retort that Bitcoin has many issues as a payment network, and they will be right.
If you only want buy stuff, the price fluctuation risk is incredibly annoying. Of course, that’s what Coinbase wants you to forget, because they always try to fuck you on that aspect. They’ve even automated the fucking.
Critics will also say that it does not scale. The blockchain as a payment network truly cannot handle the transaction volume of, say, Mastercard.

Unless you are bitcoin-rich, or have a bitcoin income, there is very little incentive to use Bitcoin to buy things online. So while merchants accepting Bitcoin take very little risk as payment processors give them the exact fiat amount they want, I do not think they get much volume from bitcoiners. MP goes as far as to say as payment processors are “not in Bitcoin”; I disagree, in the sense that payment processors are exchanges3. While those payment processors have no business long-term, they are very useful in the short term.

Decentralization is a compromise.

Bitcoin as an ubiquitous payment network will not happen on the blockchain, and it will likely be through centralized services. The future of Bitcoin payments is to use the blockchain as a clearing house tool and for long-term savings, and there’s nothing wrong about that.

Because what Bitcoin really is is digital cash and digital gold.

Bitcoins are an extremely secure, unseizable asset that you can actually own; unlike how most fiat currency is used, bitcoins in your wallet are a not debt to you and are not exposed to fractional reserves.
It is much more convenient to hold and secure than fiat cash, and fiat cash only works in physical transactions (and is sometimes not even allowed).

Moreover, its limited supply is anything but a random choice; it is a clear message against governmental central banking policies. And it’s not so that it is deflationary, it is more that the monetary policy is known in advance and impossible to change. Bitcoin with an constant but reasonable inflation4 would not be so different.

And this is what we have really been longing for.

L'idéologie dans une logique de marché ça finit toujours par péter, la réalité rattrape les utopies, il suffit de voir les résultats de la dérégulation des marchés...