Topic: [BTC-TC] Deprived Mining Speculation (DMS) - page 62. (Read 198958 times)
Someone had their finger on the sell button.
Sold 822
Swapped 0
Total 822
Price 0.03387
Total 27.84114
Less Fee 27.78545772
Man Fee 0.833563732
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 960.34604591
10164 LTC-ATF.B1 101.64000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.84709370
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.38664689
Just-Dice Balance 154.08127085
TOTAL ASSETS 1,518.30105735
Outstanding MINING 44797
Outstanding SELLING 44797
Outstanding PURCHASE 2235
Effective Units 47032
Block reward 25
Difficulty 37,392,766
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00006725
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00336232
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00672465
365 days (Buyback) 0.02454497
405 days (IPO) 0.02723483
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.02689860
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.02757106
NAV Post MINING Div 1,515.13832003
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03221505
Days Dividend Post Div 479.06
SELLING Dividend 0.00531645
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,265.09492669
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.02689860
PURCHASE selling price 0.02824
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.02636
J-D House profit at report 2756
Swapped 0
Total 822
Price 0.03387
Total 27.84114
Less Fee 27.78545772
Man Fee 0.833563732
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 960.34604591
10164 LTC-ATF.B1 101.64000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.84709370
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.38664689
Just-Dice Balance 154.08127085
TOTAL ASSETS 1,518.30105735
Outstanding MINING 44797
Outstanding SELLING 44797
Outstanding PURCHASE 2235
Effective Units 47032
Block reward 25
Difficulty 37,392,766
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00006725
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00336232
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00672465
365 days (Buyback) 0.02454497
405 days (IPO) 0.02723483
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.02689860
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.02757106
NAV Post MINING Div 1,515.13832003
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03221505
Days Dividend Post Div 479.06
SELLING Dividend 0.00531645
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,265.09492669
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.02689860
PURCHASE selling price 0.02824
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.02636
J-D House profit at report 2756
0.00006725 (-16.4%)
How high of a range would you guess the next difficulty to hit?
Next difficulty if same % is 44,732,966 with MINING dividend 0.00005621
Sold 548
Swapped 0
Total 548
Price 0.03394
Total 18.59912
Less Fee 18.56192176
Man Fee 0.556857653
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 925.03698651
11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.85000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.71894672
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.32343777
Just-Dice Balance 154.25852836
TOTAL ASSETS 1,494.18789936
Outstanding MINING 43475
Outstanding SELLING 43475
Outstanding PURCHASE 2735
Effective Units 46210
Block reward 25
Difficulty 31,256,961
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00008045
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471
365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320
405 days (IPO) 0.03258108
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332
NAV Post MINING Div 1,490.47043781
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03225428
Days Dividend Post Div 400.94
SELLING Dividend -
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,490.47043781
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03225428
PURCHASE selling price 0.03387
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03161
J-D House profit at report 2805
Swapped 0
Total 548
Price 0.03394
Total 18.59912
Less Fee 18.56192176
Man Fee 0.556857653
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 925.03698651
11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.85000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.71894672
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.32343777
Just-Dice Balance 154.25852836
TOTAL ASSETS 1,494.18789936
Outstanding MINING 43475
Outstanding SELLING 43475
Outstanding PURCHASE 2735
Effective Units 46210
Block reward 25
Difficulty 31,256,961
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00008045
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471
365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320
405 days (IPO) 0.03258108
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332
NAV Post MINING Div 1,490.47043781
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03225428
Days Dividend Post Div 400.94
SELLING Dividend -
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,490.47043781
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03225428
PURCHASE selling price 0.03387
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03161
J-D House profit at report 2805
Last increases have been 19%, 20%, 10%, if I recall correctly...
I don't see any reason why it would be much lower than another ~20%
0.00006725 (-16.4%)
How high of a range would you guess the next difficulty to hit?
0.00006725 (-16.4%)
New difficulty 37,392,766 (+19.6%)
SELLING dividend will be paid on sunday, ~0.0053 (+/- PURCHASE sells and investment gains)
SELLING dividend will be paid on sunday, ~0.0053 (+/- PURCHASE sells and investment gains)
Decent jump, and we can expect them to continue at near that rate I bet. Mining will get something around .000067 dividends at that difficulty.
New difficulty 37,392,766 (+19.6%)
SELLING dividend will be paid on sunday, ~0.0053 (+/- PURCHASE sells and investment gains)
SELLING dividend will be paid on sunday, ~0.0053 (+/- PURCHASE sells and investment gains)
I think the moon is made of blue cheese, whats wrong with that? 
Great to have an extra 20 BTC to share...
And for the conflict of interest:
I hope Deprived gets arrested this moment and is not allowed to use the internet and or phone for the next three days that way we have another 60 BTC to share...
Great to have an extra 20 BTC to share...
And for the conflict of interest:
I hope Deprived gets arrested this moment and is not allowed to use the internet and or phone for the next three days that way we have another 60 BTC to share...
No such luck. Cash is all back (with the interest) now.
A quick check of my spreadsheet shows that even after today's MINING dividend we'll be back over 400 days of dividend left.
Just noticed a minor error - the LTC-ATF.B1 were overvalued by .08 BTC (When I last sold some I obviously edited the description but not the amount). It'll be fixed in tomorrow's report - not going to do redo report for that.
Sold 27
Swapped 0
Total 27
Price 0.03401
Total 0.91827
Less Fee 0.91643346
Man Fee 0.027493004
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 910.70537265
11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.93000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.58810059
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.25889728
Just-Dice Balance 154.02189508
TOTAL ASSETS 1,479.50426560
Outstanding MINING 43100
Outstanding SELLING 43100
Outstanding PURCHASE 2562
Effective Units 45662
Block reward 25
Difficulty 31,256,961
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00008045
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471
365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320
405 days (IPO) 0.03258108
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332
NAV Post MINING Div 1,475.83088908
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03232077
Days Dividend Post Div 401.76
SELLING Dividend -
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,475.83088908
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03232077
PURCHASE selling price 0.03394
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03167
J-D House profit at report 2757
Swapped 0
Total 27
Price 0.03401
Total 0.91827
Less Fee 0.91643346
Man Fee 0.027493004
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 910.70537265
11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.93000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.58810059
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.25889728
Just-Dice Balance 154.02189508
TOTAL ASSETS 1,479.50426560
Outstanding MINING 43100
Outstanding SELLING 43100
Outstanding PURCHASE 2562
Effective Units 45662
Block reward 25
Difficulty 31,256,961
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00008045
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471
365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320
405 days (IPO) 0.03258108
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332
NAV Post MINING Div 1,475.83088908
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03232077
Days Dividend Post Div 401.76
SELLING Dividend -
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,475.83088908
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03232077
PURCHASE selling price 0.03394
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03167
J-D House profit at report 2757
BTC Balance (BTC-TC) 917.12807919
11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.93000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.45008602
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.19082091
Just-Dice Balance 154.04382236
TOTAL ASSETS 1,485.74280848
Outstanding MINING 43012
Outstanding SELLING 43012
Outstanding PURCHASE 2738
Effective Units 45750
Block reward 25
Difficulty 31,256,961
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00008045
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471
365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320
405 days (IPO) 0.03258108
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332
NAV Post MINING Div 1,482.06235261
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03239481
Days Dividend Post Div 402.68
SELLING Dividend -
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,482.06235261
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03239481
PURCHASE selling price 0.03401
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03175
J-D House profit at report 2773
11285 LTC-ATF.B1 112.93000000
Coinlenders CD 28/8 200.45008602
Coinlenders CD 13/8 101.19082091
Just-Dice Balance 154.04382236
TOTAL ASSETS 1,485.74280848
Outstanding MINING 43012
Outstanding SELLING 43012
Outstanding PURCHASE 2738
Effective Units 45750
Block reward 25
Difficulty 31,256,961
Hashes per MINING 5000000
Daily Dividend 0.00008045
50 days (Min Liquid) 0.00402236
100 days (Forced Close) 0.00804471
365 days (Buyback) 0.02936320
405 days (IPO) 0.03258108
400 days (Post SELLING div) 0.03217885
410 days (Pre SELLING div) 0.03298332
NAV Post MINING Div 1,482.06235261
NAV/U Post MINING Div 0.03239481
Days Dividend Post Div 402.68
SELLING Dividend -
NAV Post SELLING Div 1,482.06235261
NAV/U Post Selling Div 0.03239481
PURCHASE selling price 0.03401
PURCHASE buy-back price 0.03175
J-D House profit at report 2773
ActiveMining has been a cluster-fuck from start to finish. There's major flaws that noone's even spotted/pointed out.
At the risk of diverting this thread, I am also at a loss over the ActiveMining hype. Some time before the pre-IPO fiasco I had them pegged as unlikely to accomplish anything. Of course I was wrong. They've managed to convince the masses they are AsicMiner 2.0. I might have missed out on a quick profit there but I couldn't see the point in investing time in something I didn't think was worth holding.
Not related to DMS, but: Did you sell the Labcoin shares at 200-300% or do you still hold? Do you see any difference between Labcoin and BTCGarden or ActiveMining?
I bought ~200 BTC-worth of Labcoin on my personal account. Have sold some - getting ~300 BTC back (after repayment of loan + interest) and have about 75K more left. Could sell those now and be up ~300 BTC but not in any great rush. Now I've got a little bit of profit locked in I can hold the rest for a while until I have time to do some proper math and figure out whether they're worth keeping long-term or should just be sold whenever it next bubbles up.
ActiveMining has been a cluster-fuck from start to finish. There's major flaws that noone's even spotted/pointed out. I've traded it a bit for LTC-ATF but never held on to them longer than I had to for an easy profit flipping.
BTCGarden I skimmed the contract and there were a few issues that put me off touching it. If it gets near sold out I may try to flip some of the 1st load but at present I don't really want to risk holding them for any length of time.
In general I don't invest in securities other than my own - nor does my fund LTC-ATF. There ARE other decent investments around but I've never seen the need to take on protracted CP risk when I can make more profit trading with less risk.
Not related to DMS, but: Did you sell the Labcoin shares at 200-300% or do you still hold? Do you see any difference between Labcoin and BTCGarden or ActiveMining?
I've withdrawn 20 BTC of our J-D investment back to the BTC-TC wallet (it's not there yet but transaction is awaiting confirmations).
Had to do that to get our amount invested there down to the 10% max. Total we've invested into J-D now (our principal) has dropped from 160 BTC to 140 BTC. It's up about 1 BTC since yesterday's report - in total we've made about 14 BTC profit there.
Coinlenders investment is also right on its limit now - but I can't divest there anyway. Will review that when next CD matures. I doubt I'll be cashing out any more MINING+SELLING myself.
Had to do that to get our amount invested there down to the 10% max. Total we've invested into J-D now (our principal) has dropped from 160 BTC to 140 BTC. It's up about 1 BTC since yesterday's report - in total we've made about 14 BTC profit there.
Coinlenders investment is also right on its limit now - but I can't divest there anyway. Will review that when next CD matures. I doubt I'll be cashing out any more MINING+SELLING myself.
Really it's a simple case of would SELLING investors want a free 20 BTC or not? With difficulty set to rise sharply even a total write-off wouldn't impact MINING.
I would want the cash (and will gleefully accept my share of the 20BTC), but I hope you take my point that if it was happening all the time it would tend to affect how trustworthy you are perceived to be (not how trustworthy you ARE, but I hope you can see there's a difference).
Perhaps you can come back to this when you've slept off your Big Night Out?
I totally get the point.
On a side-note, at present there's potentially a huge problem on BTC-TC. Am Pming burnside about it then off to bed (it doesn't jeopardise loan repayment).
Don't leave us hanging! What's the subject of the huge problem??
Issue was that when I sold LTC-ATF's Coinlab shares it managed to double-sell some of them, giving me ( more accurately LTC-ATF) BTC we shouldn't have had. I PMed burnside and he confirmed there was a problem - and that mine was actually the worst case that occurred (it wasn't huge - only a 30 BTC or so error). Don't think he's actually taken the cash back yet - though got to do some messy math now to work out what LTC-ATF's balance on BTC-TC actually should be. Even drunk I noticed when the balance went up more than it should have.
I didn't say what the issue was last night - as I wanted to make sure burnside was aware of it and had a chance to fix it before telling everyone and having people try to exploit the issue then cash-out.
I think the moon is made of blue cheese, whats wrong with that?
Great to have an extra 20 BTC to share...
And for the conflict of interest:
I hope Deprived gets arrested this moment and is not allowed to use the internet and or phone for the next three days that way we have another 60 BTC to share...
Great to have an extra 20 BTC to share...
And for the conflict of interest:
I hope Deprived gets arrested this moment and is not allowed to use the internet and or phone for the next three days that way we have another 60 BTC to share...
No such luck. Cash is all back (with the interest) now.
A quick check of my spreadsheet shows that even after today's MINING dividend we'll be back over 400 days of dividend left.
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