Topic: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders - page 29. (Read 59178 times)

Except you didn't, it wasn't, you haven't, I have, it does. Now run along and play.

There's complaining and there's complaining...

[EDIT] this is the guy who tell's people to fuck off if he doesn't like what they say

How am I the one that is deaf or blind?

I have made no claims except for pointing out that you use false equivalency to prove some bullshit logic that doesn't make any sense at all.

 

Except that I paid a lot of money to attend the club grand opening a year ago, and they threw me out for complaining about the lack of drinks and music when the DJ was laughing at all of us for paying the cover charge.

Smokes? You didn't buy them at the warehouse. They had no product.
Drink? You didn't buy it at the warehouse They had no product.
You wait for 11 months in the warehouse, then get bounced for complaining about the delays. They do refund your money.
Then you come here and warn people, but get insulted by low post count noobs.

M'kay! Had to use my new crayons.

When Xian paid, there was no product.
It is you who is deaf, blind, and all your posts are from today. Very interesting.

in this case, you take your smokes - finish your drink (assuming they had a bar - in which case there was no need to get comfortable ) - take the refund they offer you at the door and fuck off.

A more apt analogy:

You pay in advance entrance fee to a club...

Club turns out to be an empty warehouse filled with fans...

Bouncer threatens you for warning others about the club.

No. I do mine, but I am not currently using Avalon, ASICMiner or BFL.

I should thank BFL for sucking up all the capital that would have gone to either Avalon or ASICMiner. That capital would have been converted to hashing equipment sooner and impacted the network hash rate (and thus my profits) sooner. BFL has put money in my pocket by being so late. Now that Avalon has dumped 400,000+ chips onto the market (plus around 90TH of mining units), it is unlikely that BFL will ship enough product to make a dent in the Bitcoin hash rate. My mining equipment has already paid for itself and is quite power efficient, so I anticipate just letting it run and earning whatever it earns.

The best situation for me is for BFL to trickle out a few units a week while holding onto all the capital that otherwise would go to Avalon or ASICMiner to be converted into hash rate. If I were looking out for my wallet, I should be encouraging people to put their capital in limbo via BFL preorders. BFL might deliver, but Avalon and ASICMiner will almost certainly deliver.

Are you deaf or blind? Either that or incredibly stupid.

Your analogy fails so hard .. try again.

No I am Sonny Vleisides.

gg Endlessa

Ivan Frimmel ? Is that you ?

So you go to a club .. you pay your entrance fee - there is no club, no music, no bar, no dancers, no dance floor, no DJ, no bathrooms, no roof. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. The owners say, there will be a club, just come back in two weeks. You come back in two weeks, but there is still no club. Then you behave like a dick. You don't get thrown out, there is nothing to throw you out of. NO REFUND. This is the proprietors fault.

Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't have to answer but I'd be interested...

Actually, Swede is wrong. In most states, anytime a product is sold, the seller creates what are called "implied warranties" merely by the act of selling. These are usually simple rules like: the product exists, it does what they say it does, it costs how much they say it costs, etc. Swede might live in a jurisdiction that has limited consumer protection, but since BFL is selling to all 50 states they are subject many state laws and federal consumer protection laws. If Newegg or Amazon were to represent to you that they had something in stock when they actually didn't, they would be violating federal laws and numerous state laws. Or if you bought a device they said existed when it actually did not, they would be in even more trouble. For instance: Ebay marketplace has very strict rules about when you can say something is "in stock", if you violate those rules they kick you to the curb. That is not an arbitrary distinction they are making, it is a necessary one.

"Being around business" as you put it is actually quite common for us engineers on these forums.

The gas station has the gas. It probably also has the gum. Selling products that do not yet exist is not the same thing as refusing service in a retail establishment. This is why Kickstarter won't let you order multiple units and classifies your contributions as donations. Otherwise they eaten alive by lawsuits for facilitating the breaking consumer protection laws.

Your getting boring now. . .do something to entertain me monkey man!

Sad thing is all this hub bub and they did get a refund

Did your daily Midnight to 2AM discussion with LukeJr go longer than expected last night?

Sonny "The Hash King" Vleisides would be proud.