Topic: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders - page 55. (Read 59168 times)

So Xian what would you do?
Take an FCC non-compliant rig or compliant rig?

Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC

 
Who cares about FCC?

The age of customer Darwin-ism?

Here is a conundrum.

BFL says they shipped customer products [starting] on April 1st.

The FCC may say this is not good without proper certification.

Does BFL maintain they won a bet (and ruined BetsOfBitcoin reputation) despite being fined or do they say they never technically shipped anything because of a possible fine? Can one have their cake and eat it too?

Your opinions are welcome on this topic.

Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC

LOL.   MSFT could not do that though because after revoking million of licenses we would find out how little we need their products and then they could not keep stuffing them on computers.

They have shipped a few sales units to reviewers haven't they?

Of course they also have about 1 wafer worth of chips earmarked for their own employees right off the bat.

Isn't it only an issue if they ship product? If so, BFL is in the clear! 

Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC

Isn't it only an issue if they ship product? If so, BFL is in the clear!  

Friendly Reminder That Butterfly Labs Has No FCC Certification For Any Of Their Products, A Fact You Should Try Taking Up With The FCC

This wrenchmonkey assclown ought to apply for a job with BFL.  He's doing great PR for them.  He's even more of a dick than Josh.

You got it!

The best recourse would be for the customers en masse to purge this toxic company and thus allow the market to be repopulated with more reputable and reliable businesses. The only reason this is dragging on is pipe dreams of thousands of people who assume they will get something that hashes.

The implosion of BFL is nearing, and as someone without any orders with BFL, I am glad I won't have to make the decision to jump ship before everyone else does. This from here on out is going to be a race for the bottom. A game of suicide chicken that neither Wrenchmonkey or Xian01 have any moves laterally. It is either you get out now or suffer the consequences of the following:

1. Under performing prototypes that fail to meet projected specifications
2. Repeatedly missed deadlines and over estimation of delivery and production schedules
3. Inefficient, mixed and collapsing system of JIT production
4. Disinformation, misinformation and incompetency at all level of the company communications
5. Questionable moral character of some of the parties involved in the company
6. Ever growing competitor base that threatens to wipe out their market share

Looking at that list as well as more that could be added who is the "winner"? The toxicity of the environment in this case was caused not by rightly disgruntled customers rather a less than lucid group at BFL who simply are taken full advantage of the position they carved out in the market place as the option to get mining rigs. The real downfall of BFL will invariable  come from the combination of the points above, vocal ex-customers, and the failure to ship any products. The reality is that BFL may ship something... but it will be far too little too late and with real competition from DIY / Open source as well as private entities they will not be ready to build the 2nd generation of ASICs. That is where the real battle lines are now. Not GEN I but GEN II. They missed the window it is over.

To be absolutely clear, I never implied, nor did I ever believe Butterfly Labs were a scam. I'm currently running one of their FPGA Singles. It's not hypocrisy if you believe they will ship product, but express displeasure with the process on this ASIC project thus far, and hope that they might be more forthcoming or accurate with assessments of the project development at this stage.

Just because I don't like the way something is handled, doesn't mean I don't like the product.

Heck, I'm dying to buy an updated Mac Pro. Am I pissed at Apple for dropping the ball on that product-line ? Fuck yes. Do I post bitterness and frustration on Apple forums ? Heck yes. Am I going to buy an updated Mac Pro when (if?) they finally come out ? You betcha. Do you see Tim Cook making a note to Apple sales saying "Lets blacklist that Xian01 guy from ever buying our products again, and refund him for all his software and iTunes purchases up until now" I can't ever imagine something like that happening with a respectable company.

 Is Sonny Chris Vleisides not a felon ? Again, if I am in error with those facts, I'll be the first to stick my foot in my mouth and apologize. Am I an asshole for raising that point ? Probably. Slow-burn frustration has a way of making one exceptionally bitter on a long enough timeline when money has been put up in good-faith.

BFL has to find some way to prove they aren't a fraud with ASICs, considering they have yet to ship anything in quantity for almost a year now since taking preorder money...

This wrenchmonkey assclown ought to apply for a job with BFL.  He's doing great PR for them.  He's even more of a dick than Josh.