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September 05, 2024, 10:38:21 AM

I think you are having a wrong interpretation about this reserved funds because it's not only when there's Dip one will use it to accumulate more Bitcoin NO it can also be use for other obligations outside Bitcoin investment. Secondly, it's not just about having a reserved funds but rather how well can you be able to make good use of it.  and investing aggressively is putting oneself into a mess because once you got carried away by a Dip, you are spoiling your investment unknowingly.

Before starting investment it is of course most important to gather knowledge about investment. Because you have invested a lot of hard earned money into Bitcoin to hold it for a long time, but should not let it sink for the slightest reason. So if you want to hold Bitcoin for a long time by following the DCA method in Bitcoin then you must be strategic. 

For example, if one wants to sell bitcoin holdings due to lack of family, it would be the worst thing to do, as every person should follow the Bitcoin DCA method with additional funds after meeting the basic needs of his family. Because the Bitcoin DCA method is such an approach that the owner of that holding will surely be successful if followed.
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September 05, 2024, 06:45:11 AM
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.
Dollar Cost Averaging method invests as much as you can afford i.e. you can start with a small amount even if you don't have a huge amount of cash. Investing does not mean investing all the money you have. One thing is true that we need a certain source of income or funds before investing. Whenever you have a fixed source of income, you can easily meet your needs with the money you earn from it and continue your investments comfortably with the reserve money.

Moreover, reserved funds play an important role in investment. Because if you have enough funds for investment then no matter what happens in the market you will be able to keep your investment active by buying bitcoins regularly.

Yeah that's true reserve funds play important role in bitcoin accumulating, but the main thing one should focus on is building and securing a better bitcoin investment, most time I will tell those that don't have much money to try and have a emergency funds rather than a reserve funds so that they won't endup digging their hands in their investment, during any expenses.

Because having an emergency funds as already prevent you from seeing your bitcoin as your only relying source to handle your expenses, which may help to strengthen your bitcoin investment, because at a that all you will be focusing on is how to accumulate More bitcoin rather than thinking on how to dig your hands in your investment which may endup slowing the growth of tire Bitcoin investment due to regular withdrawing of assets .
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September 05, 2024, 03:50:31 AM
If you ask me, it's more about use about 10% of monthly salary to DCA, then save the rest. Because if we are lucky, and a golden opportunity comes again - it might be a good time to be irresponsible and use up to 90% of your savings to buy the DIP.


Using 10% of monthly salary by salary earners is not a bad idea, I consider this one of the best approach when it comes to DCA, cause one would still have reserve funds as a leverage to take advantage of the market when their's a massive dip for instance about weeks ago when Bitcoin fell below $50k. This is the more reason why it's advised that people shouldn't loan money to go into Cryptocurrency, imagine if someone made entry with a loaned money at $60k plus and the market declined below $50k they'll end up being in a big mess cause I wonder how they'll pay off the debt, investing on Bitcoin especially when someone is using the DCA method is meant for those who got a stable income and not some jobless person trying to alleviate themselves with the little funds they got through Bitcoin.


This is merely my personal opinion, but that DIP was NOT the actual DIP. Follow and study the price and its relationship with the 200-Weekly Simple Moving Average. If you haven't made a lump sum purchase with your savings yet, then it's probably better to DCA 10% of your salary and continue saving the rest while waiting for a crash near the level of the 200-Weekly SMA.


You have not yet learned your lesson from your waiting to buy in October 2023 (around $27k) when you were waiting for lower $20ks that did not end up happening?  Another thing is that historically, the 200-WMA is o.k. to use as a measurement when we finally get back into a bear market, yet we are still currently in a bull market, so you might be being a bit too greedy when you are holding back so much waiting to get close to the 200-WMA that may well not end up happening until much later... and yeah, I will concede that whether we are in a bear market or a bull market tends to be a lagging indicator, so sometimes, we can end up getting back into a bear market and perhaps the touching on the 200-WMA could be a sign that we are back in a bear market.


Ser, you're nit-picking. Why do you choose October 2023's price point when EVERYONE had a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to buy the actual DIP under the 200-Weekly SMA from June 2022 to March 2023. That's almost ONE YEAR of continued opportunity, THEN the price DIPPED under the line again during August 2023.


Or if you believe that 10% is too small to DCA, make it 20% monthly divided into weekly purchases - 5% of your monthly salary each week. Although that might be too high for those people who have families to support.


Your naming of percentages of gross income is really confusing, even though it could be a decently good starting point to overall consider how much income you want to attempt to target for investing/saving... ..


That's merely a rough estimation on what an individual could do/couldn't do, and what makes the comfortable. They can do 5% of their monthly salary or smaller, if that's what they want.
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September 05, 2024, 03:01:11 AM
A new investor doesn't need to explain much about investing if an experienced investor tells him about DCA investing at the beginning. 

A new investor's biggest fear before investing is how they will invest and whether they will lose all their money after investing. It can be seen that many investors are afraid to invest but if we tell them about DCA investment and the low risk in this investment strategy then they will have the courage to invest. So far most of the investors who have adopted the DCA strategy have found this strategy to be an acceptable strategy for investing. Everyone from a new investor to an experienced investor and from a wealthy investor to a middle class investor now finds DCA investment strategy as the best for investing.
courage to invest for how long without understanding what they are investing on.
Many know how low risk DCA is but how many go through it.
We engaged in DCA because we understood the potential of the project
No prior knowledge or having just a surface knowledge would make the newbie prone to blog shenanigans.
Many would even sell in loss rather than buying the dip.
DCA comes from understanding the future of a project.





The important point of DCAing is that you have a permanent method of depositing bitcoin in any price trend where you can do it regularly and uninterrupted. The price of Bitcoin keeps on rising and it tends to dips for occasional corrections which can accumulate more Bitcoins for the same amount of dollars. Basically you shouldn't try to follow the DCA method just in expectation of dips, you should have the intention of stashing Bitcoin for the long term. When you get the expected bearish then you should be an attempt to make a single buy to accumulate more stacks in a shorter period of time.
we humans first before been investor
We sometimes question our decision and facts even when it's looking at us right at the eyes.
A friend bought Bitcoin at $62K and sold around $58K despite my warning
To get the newly listed Dogs
Cut story short he has realised that 5% in bitcoin is 30% in shitcoins.
What am trying to say is
DCA should be done based on personal capacity both financially or emotionally
Buy based on a price and amount you comfortable with but make sure it's not a once or twice accumulation but continuous
Either based on time,Dips or spare/idle funds at hand (personally use this)  
Yes you can stash in dips doesn't mean you should go all in during a dip.
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September 05, 2024, 01:50:31 AM
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.
Dollar Cost Averaging method invests as much as you can afford i.e. you can start with a small amount even if you don't have a huge amount of cash. Investing does not mean investing all the money you have. One thing is true that we need a certain source of income or funds before investing. Whenever you have a fixed source of income, you can easily meet your needs with the money you earn from it and continue your investments comfortably with the reserve money.

Moreover, reserved funds play an important role in investment. Because if you have enough funds for investment then no matter what happens in the market you will be able to keep your investment active by buying bitcoins regularly.
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September 05, 2024, 01:14:19 AM
Right. You need to stand on your two legs in order to go into the DCA method first Grin It's not a formula to become a millionaire in a month or so - anybody who has such "signals" or plans won't be able to achieve them, usually.
It's about consistency and determination to accumulate no matter where the market goes.
Good consistency and determination towards something will arise when someone is really focused and sure about what he will accumulate in every week and even in every month without caring about market conditions because the target and goal are clear enough (DCA in the long term). Everyone does need to have a good plan for whatever they want to do and must also have the desire to make it happen over time because collecting Bitcoin slowly always requires time and more consistent focus from ourselves individually.
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September 05, 2024, 12:41:27 AM
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.
That is why we have the DCA method which you don't need to struggle or force yourself investing bitcoin with all the money you have. One of the most important thing about investing bitcoin is for you to have a steady source of income which you can depend on, then after you might have settle your needs and and keep a little reserve for yourself, you can also think of accumulating any amount of Bitcoin that you can afford with DCA method of investing.

Using the DCA method to invest bitcoin you shouldn't be struggling to invest bitcoin because it is not a must that you must invest a particular amount of Bitcoin in a fixed time, it is something that can be done whenever the money is available.

Right. You need to stand on your two legs in order to go into the DCA method first Grin It's not a formula to become a millionaire in a month or so - anybody who has such "signals" or plans won't be able to achieve them, usually.
It's about consistency and determination to accumulate no matter where the market goes.
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September 05, 2024, 12:19:01 AM


It is also not mandatory to purchase huge portions of Bitcoin at every DIP, since DCA approach can aswell be done during the DIP and is said to be the safest as is not by chance imposing a threat to daily expenses since it is done according to budget in respect to what we have in our reserved funds.
Huge portions is not a mandatory and that's very true, thus I don't think using the DCA approach to buying the DIP could meet up sometimes (you can't predict how long a Dip could last)...not saying it's not good but if you can get a Dip while DCAing then do it or you can just let it be with just your DCA entry luckily you might even get a more Dip entry. Instead of that approach then maybe splitting available funds for the Dip can be done, you don't necessarily need to wait for a particular  interval to get it just buy as the Dip gets deeper (the current market is a good example)
The important point of DCAing is that you have a permanent method of depositing bitcoin in any price trend where you can do it regularly and uninterrupted. The price of Bitcoin keeps on rising and it tends to dips for occasional corrections which can accumulate more Bitcoins for the same amount of dollars. Basically you shouldn't try to follow the DCA method just in expectation of dips, you should have the intention of stashing Bitcoin for the long term. When you get the expected bearish then you should be an attempt to make a single buy to accumulate more stacks in a shorter period of time.
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September 05, 2024, 12:13:19 AM
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.
That is why we have the DCA method which you don't need to struggle or force yourself investing bitcoin with all the money you have. One of the most important thing about investing bitcoin is for you to have a steady source of income which you can depend on, then after you might have settle your needs and and keep a little reserve for yourself, you can also think of accumulating any amount of Bitcoin that you can afford with DCA method of investing.

Using the DCA method to invest bitcoin you shouldn't be struggling to invest bitcoin because it is not a must that you must invest a particular amount of Bitcoin in a fixed time, it is something that can be done whenever the money is available.
A new investor doesn't need to explain much about investing if an experienced investor tells him about DCA investing at the beginning. 

A new investor's biggest fear before investing is how they will invest and whether they will lose all their money after investing. It can be seen that many investors are afraid to invest but if we tell them about DCA investment and the low risk in this investment strategy then they will have the courage to invest. So far most of the investors who have adopted the DCA strategy have found this strategy to be an acceptable strategy for investing. Everyone from a new investor to an experienced investor and from a wealthy investor to a middle class investor now finds DCA investment strategy as the best for investing.
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September 04, 2024, 06:04:29 PM
If you don't have a steady source of income, why put all yojr funds in BTC?
Even if someone have a steady source of income, it is never advisable to put all your available funds in bitcoin. Rather a fraction of your disposable income is expected to be invested in bitcoin. Often times many investors makes this mistake. Because they have a source of income which they believe will last for long, they tend to be more aggressive with their bitcoin investment. I know there could be several reasons that might make an investor decide to be aggressive with their investments, but no matter how aggressive one might tend to be, never invest all of your available funds in bitcoin, simply because you have a source of income. It is a wrong approach, because anything can happen at any given time. As much as you are building up your bitcoin portfolio, you also need to be stacking up cash reserves.
It’s advisable no one should go all in at once when investing rather use what’s available. No one can actually brag about their income being able to sustain them till whenever because anything can happen at anytime, there’s a saying don’t put all your eggs in one basket and it’s similar as when an investor try to put everything in bitcoin without considering a backup fund. Sometimes when people mention aggressive buying it’s either they have the sufficient money to buy aggressively from their discretionary income and still save some reserve funds or else the investor need to reduce the level of aggressive buying. Let’s note that our investment will take so much time and we don’t want to be in any stranded situation to an extend of using our investment that’s why it’s advisable we use discretionary income (money we can afford to lose).


There's no guarantee that your BTC investment would make you rich in the next couple of years. Again what will your BTC be to you when you are not healthy considerate or probably kicked the bucket?
It is believed that bitcoin will do more of an uptrend movement than downward movements in the coming years. Let's say 10 to 20 years from now, so investors who invested in bitcoin now and successfully hold their bitcoin till then, sand a better chances of making fortunes from their investments.  If by chances an investor kicks the bucket as you have said, your bitcoin investment can be of benefit to your children. Your children and grandchildren will be glad that you made sacrifice for them by securing their financial future with your bitcoin investment.

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No one want to invest in a failed asset that’s the major reason I choose bitcoin since it’s different and it’s obvious bitcoin will do well within 10-20 years or more. The time taken to build our bitcoin portfolio can be considered as the sacrifice we make to get a better portfolio, the only reason why we’re advised to invest carefully is because it’s not guarantee but, doesn’t mean bitcoin will fail and it has never been recorded so


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September 04, 2024, 05:50:31 PM


It is also not mandatory to purchase huge portions of Bitcoin at every DIP, since DCA approach can aswell be done during the DIP and is said to be the safest as is not by chance imposing a threat to daily expenses since it is done according to budget in respect to what we have in our reserved funds.
Huge portions is not a mandatory and that's very true, thus I don't think using the DCA approach to buying the DIP could meet up sometimes (you can't predict how long a Dip could last)...not saying it's not good but if you can get a Dip while DCAing then do it or you can just let it be with just your DCA entry luckily you might even get a more Dip entry. Instead of that approach then maybe splitting available funds for the Dip can be done, you don't necessarily need to wait for a particular  interval to get it just buy as the Dip gets deeper (the current market is a good example)
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September 04, 2024, 05:10:41 PM
If you don't have a steady source of income, why put all yojr funds in BTC?
Even if someone have a steady source of income, it is never advisable to put all your available funds in bitcoin. Rather a fraction of your disposable income is expected to be invested in bitcoin. Often times many investors makes this mistake. Because they have a source of income which they believe will last for long, they tend to be more aggressive with their bitcoin investment. I know there could be several reasons that might make an investor decide to be aggressive with their investments, but no matter how aggressive one might tend to be, never invest all of your available funds in bitcoin, simply because you have a source of income. It is a wrong approach, because anything can happen at any given time. As much as you are building up your bitcoin portfolio, you also need to be stacking up cash reserves.

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There's no guarantee that your BTC investment would make you rich in the next couple of years. Again what will your BTC be to you when you are not healthy considerate or probably kicked the bucket?
It is believed that bitcoin will do more of an uptrend movement than downward movements in the coming years. Let's say 10 to 20 years from now, so investors who invested in bitcoin now and successfully hold their bitcoin till then, sand a better chances of making fortunes from their investments.  If by chances an investor kicks the bucket as you have said, your bitcoin investment can be of benefit to your children. Your children and grandchildren will be glad that you made sacrifice for them by securing their financial future with your bitcoin investment.

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When there are so many things to solve personal with your money, first set your accumulation plans aside, there will always be a chance to invest or buy BTC.
There will always be problems to solve in the life of a Man, that's why it is advisable to plan our finances ahead of time, and know the portion meant to be used and solve problems. That's why the DCA method is there, it gives investors the flexibility to solve their problems and still invest in bitcoin. DCA method is not that capital intensive, as it makes room for investors, irrespective of your financial capacity investors can do it with as little as they can. It is not a good idea to miss out on bitcoin because we are solving problems and problems don't end. $5 invested weekly through DCA is something. It is better than someone who keeps procastinating to a later date, without taking action.
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September 04, 2024, 04:57:16 PM
I doubt that we can really say what others should do, since sometimes there can additional costs to sell out of one investment and then to put that into bitcoin, yet someone who has a fairly decent already existing portfolio may well be in a better place to invest more aggressively into bitcoin, since they already have their whole traditional investments, whether they had been investing 10-20 years or some other amount, some person who already has other investments is in a way better place to come out somewhat aggressively in terms of their bitcoin allocation strategy - even though they still might not want to incur the costs of lump summing into bitcoin (if they have to sell some of their other assets), so it still might take them a whole year or two just to get their BTC allocation from zero and up to 10-15% of their total investment portfolio.

When I got into bitcoin in late 2013, I already had an investment portfolio that I had considered to be sufficiently strong enough to be able to support me if my other various investments and income had dried up. .so I considered it to be more or less at entry-level fuck you status, even though I was not really living off of it.... so at the same time, when I started buying bitcoin in late 2013 and through 2014, I thought that I was being somewhat aggressive in my BTC accumulation, yet in the beginning 6 months and then extension of another 6 months of my plan, I allocated to bitcoin based on a budget that I had given myself for the 6 months and divided it by 26 (for the amount that I could buy each week), and then extended  another 6 months, so yeah, I was not sure exactly what my target was except for spending the budget that I had allocated for myself for each fo the 6 months periods, yet by the time we were getting close to the end of 2014 (so that would have had been a full year), I had somehow figured out that I had reached around 10% of my overall investment portfolio had been invested into bitcoin, so in that sense, I had concluded that I had largely accumulated enough.. and furthermore, I remember batting around some ideas about whether I might want to transfer some value from my 401k into buying bitcoin (which even though tempting, I ended up deciding against it based on my assessment that I largely had enough investment into BTC, and it took me a year to get there (which was 10%)).. .

Yet part of my problem was that I continued to invest into bitccoin through 2015 and 2016, and I ended up over accumulating (which largely ended up being around 13.5%-ish in late 2015).. which ended up NOT being a bad thing for me personally.. .but still a little bit of a decision to continue to buy bitcoin through 2015 and into 2016 even though in late 2014, I had largely assessed that I had already gotten enough.
Agree with your idea, most likely those who have achieved great success in investing in their old assets will easily understand the concept of how they continue their positive trend into their new investment (Bitcoin). One of the advantages they have is their experience in managing their financial management for investing and for their living needs. From here, of course, their steps to invest will be neatly arranged with the strategy that will be implemented, there may even be more aggressive steps if their level of focus grows along with the investment in bitcoin.

I am amazed by your investment journey, maybe it will be a fairly useful description for us. One of them is to stabilize the level of purchases on a more routine scale compared to our journey in previous investments. For me, maybe I will also consider saving on living expenses in order to be able to buy more bitcoins with the previous stages. Of course, I really need that adjustment to increase ownership when I get better opportunities. Another important concept that I focus on is considering the decision to include a larger budget if one day I get a lot of income from my place of work, maybe it's a severance pay or other bonuses. I want to dedicate this investment to my children when they grow up (that's why I consider if the 10 year stage is reached I will make a decision to continue to the next year or 11 years.

You took advantage of a great opportunity at that time, aren't you a very lucky person. Even I admit of course in 2013 not many people in this world made big investments in bitcoin. You made an investment that changed your life for the better and I really want to do it and this is what I have processed in accumulating bitcoin every week.
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September 04, 2024, 04:20:03 PM
This is the only simple introduction easy way for any investor to follow the DCA method in Bitcoin to get more benefits and keep the money safe. Because if they can hold Bitcoin in the right way that will be the key to their success, because every investor will be successful in the current dip in the market. But only long-term investment success is at its peak, if you observe, you can see that big investors from past times are relying on DCA method till now. And they are successful and made mountains of money just by investing in 10 to 12 years DCO method, I have seen on social media many people depend on DCA method and become self-sufficient.

DCA method is always the best method to invest, DCA is the best strategy to accumulate bitcoins slowly without worrying about the market ups and downs. Everyone can become self-sufficient by using DCA method, others have made mountains of money by investing in 10 to 12 years DCA method and become self-sustainable, you also start, take a target that you will do DCA for at least 8 years, you are patient without looking at the market price Suppose, invest regularly and after 8 years, compare the position then with the current position, you will see a stark difference.
DCA method is good for beginners to accumulate bitcoin constantly overtime as long as they don't stop but keep their DCA running. However, if the investor is able to supplement his ongoing DCA with lump sum from time to time whenever extra cash comes in which he did not expect.

Also one of the reason why reserve funds is important is to enable the investor have funds available when the dip comes for him to take advantage of the dip and stack more bitcoin in a cheap price to his bitcoin portfolio. Using the three methods will help boost your bitcoin portfolio to a great height compared to using only DCA.
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.

If you don't have a reserved funds one can still build it along side his or her Bitcoin investment, all what you will do is to bring out a percentage from your Discretionary income and then use it to build his reserved funds and even build other back up funds and at the moment of building this funds one should not be aggressive in his or her Bitcoin accumulation in other to prevent reaching a fuck you stage where you now have to dip hands into your Bitcoin investment.


I think you are having a wrong interpretation about this reserved funds because it's not only when there's Dip one will use it to accumulate more Bitcoin NO it can also be use for other obligations outside Bitcoin investment. Secondly, it's not just about having a reserved funds but rather how well can you be able to make good use of it.  and investing aggressively is putting oneself into a mess because once you got carried away by a Dip, you are spoiling your investment unknowingly.
Reserved funds are primarily the back bone of every investment, most especially this on Bitcoin investment while DCAing, anyone who ignores the essence of keeping aside this funds will be face with an irreversible later challenge which poses a threat to the investor. The DIP is an important part of the market, taking advantage of it is a considerable option but doing excessively(aggressively) can puncture the availability of those funds when highly required to solve critical expenses.

It is also not mandatory to purchase huge portions of Bitcoin at every DIP, since DCA approach can aswell be done during the DIP and is said to be the safest as is not by chance imposing a threat to daily expenses since it is done according to budget in respect to what we have in our reserved funds.
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September 04, 2024, 04:13:23 PM
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.

Reserve fun is very important but not to be use the way you are saying because every investment strategy has there advantage and also disadvantages and any wrong decision can result negatively on your investment, so your reserve funds shouldn't be a strategy for investing all in any Bitcoin dip because doing that can result to the disadvantage I'm emphasizing on, so actually I don't really see any risk on Bitcoin holding but most of the people are the ones that's bringing the risk to themselves because if you're accumulating with the normal method without adding any greed I don't think there would be any regret but the ideas to navigate into other method in other to stack more Bitcoin has always brought setback to most people.

I get your point, but if one actually have some nice amount of money he or she can use to go all in like a form of lump-summing to give their accumulation some nice boost , they can actually go for it without them overdoing it like using their emergency funds. Reserve funds is not all about going all in though , one can choose to spread his reserves funds when. Purchasing, incase there's a further dip .

For instance I have $50 as a reserve funds I can choose to break into $10 , So bitcoin price was around $65k then dip to $62k , i can just purchase $10 worth of bitcoin , leaving me with $40 then I Will purchase again if any dip occurs with $10 from the remaining funds till the $50 eventually runs out.
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September 04, 2024, 03:01:53 PM
This is the only simple introduction easy way for any investor to follow the DCA method in Bitcoin to get more benefits and keep the money safe. Because if they can hold Bitcoin in the right way that will be the key to their success, because every investor will be successful in the current dip in the market. But only long-term investment success is at its peak, if you observe, you can see that big investors from past times are relying on DCA method till now. And they are successful and made mountains of money just by investing in 10 to 12 years DCO method, I have seen on social media many people depend on DCA method and become self-sufficient.

DCA method is always the best method to invest, DCA is the best strategy to accumulate bitcoins slowly without worrying about the market ups and downs. Everyone can become self-sufficient by using DCA method, others have made mountains of money by investing in 10 to 12 years DCA method and become self-sustainable, you also start, take a target that you will do DCA for at least 8 years, you are patient without looking at the market price Suppose, invest regularly and after 8 years, compare the position then with the current position, you will see a stark difference.
DCA method is good for beginners to accumulate bitcoin constantly overtime as long as they don't stop but keep their DCA running. However, if the investor is able to supplement his ongoing DCA with lump sum from time to time whenever extra cash comes in which he did not expect.

Also one of the reason why reserve funds is important is to enable the investor have funds available when the dip comes for him to take advantage of the dip and stack more bitcoin in a cheap price to his bitcoin portfolio. Using the three methods will help boost your bitcoin portfolio to a great height compared to using only DCA.
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.

If you don't have a reserved funds one can still build it along side his or her Bitcoin investment, all what you will do is to bring out a percentage from your Discretionary income and then use it to build his reserved funds and even build other back up funds and at the moment of building this funds one should not be aggressive in his or her Bitcoin accumulation in other to prevent reaching a fuck you stage where you now have to dip hands into your Bitcoin investment.


I think you are having a wrong interpretation about this reserved funds because it's not only when there's Dip one will use it to accumulate more Bitcoin NO it can also be use for other obligations outside Bitcoin investment. Secondly, it's not just about having a reserved funds but rather how well can you be able to make good use of it.  and investing aggressively is putting oneself into a mess because once you got carried away by a Dip, you are spoiling your investment unknowingly.
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September 04, 2024, 02:41:40 PM
When it comes to bitcoin investment there are things that are important to have and one of them are reserved funds, like you said it helps one when there's a dip, when you are using the DCA strategy and you have also built a very good reserved funds it will help you accumulate more Bitcoin than someone who is just using the DCA strategy without any built reserve funds.
That is why we have the DCA method which you don't need to struggle or force yourself investing bitcoin with all the money you have. One of the most important thing about investing bitcoin is for you to have a steady source of income which you can depend on, then after you might have settle your needs and and keep a little reserve for yourself, you can also think of accumulating any amount of Bitcoin that you can afford with DCA method of investing.

Using the DCA method to invest bitcoin you shouldn't be struggling to invest bitcoin because it is not a must that you must invest a particular amount of Bitcoin in a fixed time, it is something that can be done whenever the money is available.
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September 03, 2024, 11:00:52 PM
so actually I don't really see any risk on Bitcoin holding but most of the people are the ones that's bringing the risk to themselves.
Actually there is a risk in holding bitcoin, and it's called the risk of uncertainty. The fact that you are holding bitcoin doesn't mean that everything will only work out exactly as you are expecting, things could go south. There is no assurance that you are guaranteed of success in the end. There is every chance that things won't play out as expected. That's the risk in holding bitcoin. Since there is no form certainty of making profit from bitcoin in the end, that's why there is a risk of uncertainty in it.
Aren't we trying to set ourselves up in terms of some level of certainty in terms of as long as we do not leverage, then we should be able to be certain that the most that we could lose in our bitcoin investment is 100% of what we put in, so can't we consider our investment into bitcoin to be certain in that kind of a way?
In that regard I think we can consider our investment to be certain, because we already figured out what could happen to our investment in the worst case scenario. I think the only thing that should be considered as not being certain is the size of profit that we are expected to see from our investment on the long run. But it doesn't really matters since it is expected that our portfolio is going to be way better than it was at the beginning of our investment journey on the long run.

Well, we can monitor our investment as it goes, and try to determine if there might be some reason that we might want to change our approach to the investment, so I am not even saying that there are not a lot of uncertainties, since anything regarding the future has a lot of uncertainties in it.

At the same time, we can recognize bitcoin as a good investment when we start, and we invest according to what we know when we get started with our investment into bitcoin, yet I doubt that very many of us would spend years and years studying bitcoin or even knowing it very well prior to getting stared investing into it, so we may well start out with a tentative premise that bitcoin is a decently good place to put value as compared with other places that we might want to put our value, yet as we continue to invest into bitcoin then hopefully we continue to study it, and thereby try to figure out if anything material in regards to our investment thesis is becoming stronger or weaker or if we might need to change our BTC accumulation approach, presuming that it may well take a while to get through our accumulation stages.

Even with our not knowing the future, surely there are a lot of decently good upside scenarios for bitcoin, so surely some variation of the upside scenarios have good odds of playing out during  our time investing into bitcoin, whether that be 4-10 year or longer or some other kind of a longer term plan to stay into bitcoin and to reassess at various points down the road.


We also invest with an expectation that BTC prices are more likely to go up rather than go down, so even if we know that BTC prices are not certain (or guaranteed) to go up, we could still have some built in certainties in regards to the maximum that we would end up losing if bitcoin were to go to zero.  

We also know that there are a variety of scenarios that could play out, but those scenarios are not stabs in the dark, so each of us should attempt to figure out some reasonable probabilities for the various scenarios so that we would thereafter be able to figure out our BTC investment allocation size in light of our view of various scenarios, including that we likely would not even be investing into bitcoin at all if we did not tentatively believe that bitcoin's chances of going up are greater than going down, especially in a 4-10 year or longer timeline.  So, we might not be overly concerned about Bitcoin's price performance in the short term, even though surely we may well need to at least monitor some aspect of bitcoin's price performance over the years as we are investing into it (presumably at least DCA, buying the dip and/or lump sum strategies).
Of course there are better chances of bitcoin making more of an upward movements than downward movements on the long run. I believe this is the more reason why you and I have been an advocate of long term hold, in order for us to stand a better chance of getting something reasonable from our investment. There is need for long term investors to have this conviction that they are better of with bitcoin than without bitcoin. I think it's important for investors to have this conviction and certain level of certainties inside them, because it is what's going to keep driving us to keep investing in bitcoin and holding it for as long.

Sure, each of us who wants to invest, should be making some kind of an assessment of our choice to invest in bitcoin as compared with other places that we might put our value.  If we came to bitcoin and we already had various investments, then we can choose whether to sell any of our existing investments once we had chosen to invest into bitcoin, or if we might just add bitcoin on as an investment and to also keep our traditional investments.

If any of us might come to bitcoin without hardly any other investments besides perhaps a month or so of cash savings and maybe some other token investments, then we may well have to choose whether we want to just invest into bitcoin and buttressing our cash reserves or if we want to include other kinds of investments. Personally, I believe that that there is no need to start with more than just bitcoin and cash, yet I don't maintain the position that remaining in ONLY bitcoin and cash would be sufficiently comfortable, so guys surely have to figure out the extent to which they might add other kinds of investments into their investment portfolio besides just bitcoin and cash.. and if so when to do it and how to do it, and I am not claiming to know how to answer those kinds of questions for anyone else, even though some comfort can come to spread out to merely bitcoin and cash, especially once a bitcoin stash might start to grow to sizes of more than a year of expenses.. and I am not even sure of the exact threshold since some guys might want to diversify his investment after merely getting 50% of his annual expenses in bitcoin, and some guys might not mind keeping some relatively higher level of his total investment portfolio only in bitcoin and cash.

Part of balance of any investment, including bitcoin is that if the investment ends up having a real great outcome (meaning upwards price appreciation) we do not need to invest high portion of our wealth into it in order to be able to end up still being able to profit stupendously from it. That is part of the greatness of having such an asymmetric bet, since some folks invested aggressively and some folks invested whimpily, and as long as they mostly remained invested, through the years they ended up profiting stupendously... so we have similar choices from the present and no guarantees of future performance while at the same time realizing that each of us are able to choose our own level of aggressiveness or whimpiness in regards to our bitcoin and the future will play out however it might and we might see down the road the degree to which our bitcoin allocation decisions ended up profiting for us.. perhaps at least as good as other places we could have had invested, or perhaps outperforming our other possible investment choices.

Leave reserve funds for people who are financially buoyant.
You are wrong, and your statement will mislead newbies or new investors who want to start investing their money in bitcoin to mess up their bitcoin accumulation journey. As long as bitcoin investment is concerned, no matter how shitty your income source could be, you should always keep emergency funds, reserve funds, and floats, which would allow you to accumulate bitcoin without depending on your bitcoin investment to solve your unforeseen problems.
Again reverse funds is something we keep talking about. Some investors just keeps making things complicated for them selfs.. If you don't have a steady source of income, why put all yojr funds in BTC? You should be able to think outside the box. There's no guarantee that your BTC investment would make you rich in the next couple of years. Again what will your BTC be to you when you are not healthy considerate or probably kicked the bucket? When there are so many things to solve personal with your money, first set your accumulation plans aside, there will always be a chance to invest or buy BTC.

Of course, there are always going to be opportunities to invest into bitcoin, yet it seems better to be buying bitcoin sooner rather than later, yet sure, each person has to make those kinds of choices for themselves, including but not limited to making trade-offs in regards to their spending to day versus investing versus spending in the future, and surely folks have differing timelines for which they need to account.

Delaying investing bitcoin or accumulating bitcoin has consequences, and each person can make those choices, and part of the reason that we ONLY have less than 1% of the world's population investing into bitcoin should help for guys to understand that we are still early to bitcoin, even though some people consider that as a sign that they can wait to accumulate, to be there seems to be some value in getting started sooner rather than later in terms of BTC accumulation, even if you might ONLY be able to currently start investing with $10 per week rather than $100 per week, and surely some times normal peeps have competing obligations for their money, including their own training, skills and money earning and building experiences.

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That's right sir, I continue to hold old investments and also continue to accumulate new investments in Bitcoin. Yes, the multiple profits may be seen when I reach target in investing in bitcoin. But with other people I certainly have no opinion if they want to switch their old investments to bitcoin because that's quite difficult to say. If they do that, it could be an amazing thing, right?

I doubt that we can really say what others should do, since sometimes there can additional costs to sell out of one investment and then to put that into bitcoin, yet someone who has a fairly decent already existing portfolio may well be in a better place to invest more aggressively into bitcoin, since they already have their whole traditional investments, whether they had been investing 10-20 years or some other amount, some person who already has other investments is in a way better place to come out somewhat aggressively in terms of their bitcoin allocation strategy - even though they still might not want to incur the costs of lump summing into bitcoin (if they have to sell some of their other assets), so it still might take them a whole year or two just to get their BTC allocation from zero and up to 10-15% of their total investment portfolio.

When I got into bitcoin in late 2013, I already had an investment portfolio that I had considered to be sufficiently strong enough to be able to support me if my other various investments and income had dried up. .so I considered it to be more or less at entry-level fuck you status, even though I was not really living off of it.... so at the same time, when I started buying bitcoin in late 2013 and through 2014, I thought that I was being somewhat aggressive in my BTC accumulation, yet in the beginning 6 months and then extension of another 6 months of my plan, I allocated to bitcoin based on a budget that I had given myself for the 6 months and divided it by 26 (for the amount that I could buy each week), and then extended  another 6 months, so yeah, I was not sure exactly what my target was except for spending the budget that I had allocated for myself for each fo the 6 months periods, yet by the time we were getting close to the end of 2014 (so that would have had been a full year), I had somehow figured out that I had reached around 10% of my overall investment portfolio had been invested into bitcoin, so in that sense, I had concluded that I had largely accumulated enough.. and furthermore, I remember batting around some ideas about whether I might want to transfer some value from my 401k into buying bitcoin (which even though tempting, I ended up deciding against it based on my assessment that I largely had enough investment into BTC, and it took me a year to get there (which was 10%)).. .

Yet part of my problem was that I continued to invest into bitccoin through 2015 and 2016, and I ended up over accumulating (which largely ended up being around 13.5%-ish in late 2015).. which ended up NOT being a bad thing for me personally.. .but still a little bit of a decision to continue to buy bitcoin through 2015 and into 2016 even though in late 2014, I had largely assessed that I had already gotten enough.
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September 03, 2024, 05:05:48 PM
Those all sound like good ideas, especially in terms of having some timeline goals, but then keeping some back up timelines in mind, so it sounds like you are weighing various possible scenarios and have a sufficient amount of flexibility in your thinking about how you might have to reassess along the way at various points.

Surely people with more discretionary income or even who had come from higher levels of wealth have more resources in front of them, yet there are degrees of wealth too, and so some of those folks with wealth are still not allocating to bitcoin and/or do not have a sufficient and adequate bitcoin accumulation plan, so any of us can imagine scenarios in which those who are planning, preparing and acting in regards to their bitcoin accumulation plans are going to end up passing up folks who were not making and/or acting upon such bitcoin accumulation plans.  For sure there are already examples and ongoingly new examples of the more poor folks who have been able to either make progress in narrowing the gap and/or potentially financially passing up folks with way more finacial abilities, resources and means.

We can imagine at various points in time 4-10 years ago, there have been people with modest or even some what low levels of finacial resources who have been able to accumulate anywhere between 10 and 300 bitcoin for anywhere between $10k and $300k (and various prices between)  Maybe some of them have average costs of less than $1k per BTC, and others have average costs of less than $15k per BTC, so there would be variability in regards to their profitability levels, and no one can actually assess his own specific situation until the passage of time that is able to show how the quantity of BTC matches up with how much had been invested, and frequently and many times, we already discussed how there might not be a lot of value in regards to assessing our costs per BTC until maybe at some point down the road, whether it is 10 years later, 15 years later or maybe some further down the road period, even though almost all of us are going to want to be in profits by the time we are reassessing and revaluating our situation.. yet if we happen to be a person who had accumulated around 80 BTC or more over the past 8 years, we might not be too concerned if our average cost per BTC happens to be $60k or $200k, we just happen to feel ourselves to be in a very good place to have accumulated more than 80 BTC, and we might consider that to be a reason transition into some other status where we no longer need to concern ourselves with accumulating BTC.

On the other hand someone newer to bitcoin might consider that in the next 10 years, they are likely going to need to accumulate somewhere between 2 BTC and 8 BTC to get to a similar status as the one who currently feels himself to be with 8 BTC.. .yet the target is a little bit amorphous and a little bit dependent on what happens with BTC  prices in the next 10 years and also what happens with the BTC accumulator's ability to continue to invest into bitcoin within his discretionary income over the next 10 years.

Regarding your point about gold and/or any other investments that a person might have built prior to investing into bitcoin, some folks will just keep their old investments and then just move their focus over towards bitcoin, so they do not necessarily end up selling their prior investments, and others will sell their prior investments and move the proceeds over to bitcoin.  There likely is no exact correct answer, and there surely may well be transaction costs to cash out of one investment and move the proceeds over to another (in this case into bitcoin).
Of course sir, I have to think wisely about what I have planned. As an investment that I am so focused on Bitcoin, of course I will direct all my thoughts so that the sustainability of this investment can successfully achieve the target. Indeed, if we count the years, of course 10 years is quite long, but if we live it, maybe it won't feel long because the level of consistency accumulates unconsciously, we have passed week after week.

The initial steps are indeed quite difficult, especially since some of them have to change their investment patterns in a new direction, I mean maybe person A is a rich person who has a lot of money and he only invests in gold and of course they need time to reverse their investment routine to Bitcoin. I even think they need a lot of guidance if they are quite new to Bitcoin. They have to think about planning and arranging many strategies before they are ready to start investing in Bitcoin.

Of course, if we look at the variability of profits in each investment, it will certainly be different because some start at $10, or they start at $50 or they have a lot of money starting at $1000 per execution every week. But that's not a big deal because whatever their profit is, they have definitely changed the direction of their lives when they reach the peak of their purchase or the final stage or the execution stage in 10 years of achieving their investment target in bitcoin. I think we are just grateful for everything we get even in the profits we see at some point in the future.

I think that could be true or rather they want to equalize their portfolio position with someone who invested in bitcoin earlier. But for me, of course I don't think in that direction because I started with a smaller level of execution, of course I won't target to pursue the same status as people's current ownership. I just made it a motivation to increase my enthusiasm to continue accumulating Bitcoin.

That's right sir, I continue to hold old investments and also continue to accumulate new investments in Bitcoin. Yes, the multiple profits may be seen when I reach target in investing in bitcoin. But with other people I certainly have no opinion if they want to switch their old investments to bitcoin because that's quite difficult to say. If they do that, it could be an amazing thing, right?
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September 03, 2024, 12:15:07 PM
Waiting for the bitcoin dip is never a good thing to do because we saw how bitcoin disappointed so many investors who were waiting for it to dip to $10k before they could invest in it. If any investor is much concerned about buying the bitcoin dip.

Any investor waiting BTC to return to $10k mark before he buys, is just wasting their time and to me will have to wait even longer as Bitcoin is not going back to its past. What some investors lack is planning and to me they don't understand how BTC investment works. Why wait for such a dip, when you could buy BTC continuously using the DCA? You can also wait for the dip while doing the DCA and once an opportunity comes In the market, not necessarily the $10k you buy as many as you can afford at that time.


This is dumb thoughts of people that they really see those kind of downfall. That $10k is so dip and provably that we will not see this price to reach by bitcoin. We are not  moving backwards since bitcoin gather a lot more acknowledgement that this is good asset to acquire and it became a legal tender in one country so they provably waste their time for waiting in that situation. But its their money they are the one can decide if they want to invest now or not.

But for sure they might get disappointed if they see bitcoin hit another historical ATH since those people who doubt like them would provably try to remember those times that they still doubting to acquire . That's why its important for those people who doubt or doesn't have confidence to spend on current level to track good discussion and opinion since for sure that there's lot of learnings to get from peoples advice towards what's best thing to do if they want to start their bitcoin long term investment plan. Its not really necessary to wait for $10k dip since right now they can act and start their investment.

Regrets has already happened to those who had the opportunity to invest in Bitcoin at it's earliest days, seeing Bitcoin at what it is today surely they must regret ever not utilizing the such opportunity and that is exactly what is going to happen to as many who are yet to recognize the potency that Bitcoin holds now that they have the opportunity knocking at their door steps, Bitcoin is a moving training even though it can be slow the most important thing is that it is moving and i don't give a fuck about those who are belittling, refusing and failing to see the brighter light that Bitcoin has brought as one of the best if not the best digital asset class.
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