What happen when the dip get dipper? The best thing is to look for change in of momentum in the market before buying the dip unless those who want to HODL for long let says months or years. As a trader, it might not augur well.
Anyone getting in BTC would likely be well served by treating it as at least a 4 year investment, and even better if they have a longer investment time horizon, such as 10 to 20 years.
One of the best ways to make any investment is to employ dollar cost averaging techniques, and even if a person might be front loading the investment because they want to get at a certain target investment portfolio, such as having bitcoin serve as 1% of the value of the portfolio 10% or some other target accumulation amount.
So whoever is investing and attempting to reach target positions is mostly aiming at accumulating over a period of time, and of course, if they can buy some of their BTC at a lower price 10%, 20% or 50% lower, then they can accumulate more BTC, but with BTC we cannot be assured that any such dips are going to take place from whatever price point we happen to be at.
So, buying on dips can account for accumulating a bit more BTC over time, but sometimes, it is better just to make sure to get in and stop trying to worry whether you got 1 BTC for your $11k or you were able to get 1.3BTC because the price dropped 30%.
What he is saying, in my opinion, has less to do with waiting for lower prices and more to do with waiting for ideal momentum.
Sure, that is a fair interpretation, and you likely realize that I don't agree with that way of thinking or that approach to investing - even though of course, there are a decent number of people who think and invest like that.
Even though I tend to advocate for some variation of my approach, I don't necessarily expect people are going to agree, and surely in the end, as long as they are accounting for a the various factors of their own circumstances, then hopefully they will learn along the way and tweak along the way, if they believe that they need to adjust their approach.
It's not that "the dip might go deeper so you should always wait to buy lower." It's more that it's prudent to buy into weak selling momentum (indicating accumulation and expected bullish reversal) rather than simply buying at random, or buying early into a crash where you can reasonably expect lower prices in the short term.
Sure. You and I have been back and forth about this quite a bit, and I frequently proclaim that it is difficult as fuck for even expert studiers of the space and BTC price dynamics to recognize these kinds of factors, so the vast majority of folks are likely not really going to know if they are buying into selling momentum, big dips or small dips or whatever is going on.. even if they might develop hunches around such dynamics.
A vast majority of time, it seems better to establish some kind of system that allows for both buying regularly and maybe structuring various dip points that are largely comfortable and can be tweaked from time to time based on the variety of personal circumstances.
I don't think DCA implies you shouldn't put any thought whatsoever into entries.
I am not saying that, either.. .but with bitcoin, you should also NOT be getting too worked up about having had bought BTC all the way from $19,666 to $11k and some of your purchased BTC happen to be in the red... In the end, who fucking cares? You cannot necessarily know.. and after a decent amount of time investing in BTC on a regular basis, it still remains quite likely that you should be in profits with the longer passage of time... and likely in a better position than if fucking around with trying to time matters and just getting stressed out about it.
So, ultimately a combination of both could be helpful if the person has enough cashflow. So yeah, having $100 per week (as I mentioned in my earlier post) that is able to be invested into BTC is a decently sized cashflow that could allow for some flexibility in using some amounts to buy regularly (such as half) and the other amounts to attempt to be strategic about those buy price points.
Some people might not have $100 per week, and they might have only $10 per week. They could still attempt to do the same thing by dividing half and half, but they may have to figure out some other method of maybe buying once a month rather than once a week.. and surely the smaller amounts allow for lower amounts of value to work with in regards to being able to lump sum invest parts of their cashflow, too.
Of course, if someone has higher amounts of cash, even $250 per week or higher amounts, then they are going to have more options, and frequently those higher cashflow folks may have better ideas about how to manage their investment, than someone who may be struggling a bit more with lower cashflows and likely getting more enticed into taking gambling approaches rather than exercising more prudent investment and portfolio management strategies that I tend to argue that dollar cost averaging tends to better facilitate more prudence rather than by trying to time the market through gambling techniques that may or may not be prudent depending on how much of a cashflow that is available to such hypothetical investor(s).
I think both investors and traders (and everyone in between) should make some effort to avoid drawdowns. Drawdowns, especially ones that are deep and long term, can lead to bad emotional decisions and capitulation. It's also just not a very efficient use of a capital.
We can agree to disagree, no? I think that in regards to bitcoin (our lil buddy) the efficiency can work itself out with a long enough investment strategy that largely just mostly engages in DCA strategies that attempt to accumulate and focus on accumulating BTC on a regular and ongoing basis.. and sure short-term it might not seem that such system has been being very efficient, but if someone ends up engaging in a longer term investment approach to BTC such as 7 years or longer, the numbers will likely start to work themselves out in favorable ways - even though with any investment, including BTC, there are no guarantees.. so in that regard, prudence in the amount may help to alleviate feelings of anxiety in regards to whether the investment in BTC is performing well or not in the shorter term.
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see the linked website regarding DCA into BTC over the past 7 years with a $10 per week approach that compares gold and equities. You can adjust the timeframes and/or amounts to see how historical BTC price performance would have varied in comparison to gold and equities.
If you see another bubble and pop like December 2017, does it make sense to immediately buy into the market? Of course not. Your money is better off elsewhere, likely for a couple years. That doesn't mean a 5-year investment timeline won't work out just fine in terms of achieving positive ROI. But it may not be the best plan either.
If someone has a $10k investment portfolio with $1k invested into BTC and $9k invested in various other assets, then maybe they do not need to worry very much because they have a meaningful stake in BTC.. whether it is enough to make a difference or not might be another story.. But, sure, they are already in and if they just let the market ride itself out then if they continue to buy $10 per week or whatever, may not really make a BIG difference.
If someone has zero invested BTC, then they decide to wait, that is on them. I do not suggest waiting. I suggest getting the fuck into bitcoin with some reasonable amount that is comfortable for the person that is 1% to 10% of their investment portfolio and then sure they can tweak according to their circumstances. Invest for 4 years or longer, and if your time line is shorter than 4 years, then you might need to reconsider whether to invest in BTC at all or merely to adjust some of the numbers to fit your shorter time horizon which involves more gambling tendencies - and I am not in the business of recommending gambling approaches to BTC investing... but hey, that is just me.. attempting to presume a 4 year or longer investment timeline and to work from there.. and if people cannot do that, then maybe they should not be listening to what I have to say... or they can attempt to tweak what I say to their personal circumstances... adjusting various parts to attempt to make it work for their personal circumstances and that surely involved figuring out cashflow, other investments, view of bitcoin compared with other investments, risk tolerance, timeline, and time, skills and abilities to plan, learn along the way, tweak their strategies including reallocating and deciding whether or not to include trading within their portfolio management and investment approach...